[RESULT] [VOTE] Retire Maven OSGi

2019-08-27 Thread Robert Scholte

Hi,

The vote has passed with the following result:

+1: Tamás Cservenák, Anders Hammar, Tibor Digana, Karl Heinz Marbaise,  
Michael Osipov, Arnaud Héritier, Enrico Olivelli, Stephane Nicoll,  
Francois Papon, Hervé BOUTEMY


PMC quorum: reached

Special thanks to Dirk Mahler for collecting a list of projects still  
using the library.
I considered doing a final release anyway because of the provided  
information, but after having a view on the list of commits on the project  
and concluded it is still not worth it.


I will continue with the steps required to retire this library.

On Fri, 23 Aug 2019 15:17:23 +0200, Robert Scholte   
wrote:



Hi,

The Apache Maven project consist of about 90 (sub)projects. Due to the  
small number of volunteers and the huge amount of code to maintain we're  
missing enough space to make real progress on all these projects,  
including our ambitious ideas for the next major version(s) of Maven  
itself.
To be able to gain more focus we need to criticize the current  
subprojects and decide if it is worth maintaining.


https://maven.apache.org/shared/maven-osgi/ describes the main purpose  
in one line: Library for Maven-OSGi integration.
There have been only 2 releases: 0.1.0 in July 2007 and 0.2.0 in  
December 2007 and just one open issue by Stuart McCulloch regarding an  
unclosed jar.
It is unclear to me if this library is still used. The library is based  
on just 3 files: interface, default implementation and dedicated  
exception.
Either the library is complete or never used anymore. In both cases I  
see no real reason to maintain it.


I therefore propose that we retire the maven-osgi library.

I don't think it makes sense to do a final release. Instead we should  
update the documentation and freeze the codebase.


The process for retiring a plugin is described here:
https://maven.apache.org/developers/retirement-plan-plugins.html  
[https://maven.apache.org/developers/retirement-plan-plugins.html]


The vote is open for 72 hours.
[ ] +1 Yes, it's about time
[ ] -1 No, because...

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Re: [VOTE] Retire Maven OSGi

2019-08-24 Thread Hervé BOUTEMY
+1

Regards,

Hervé

Le vendredi 23 août 2019, 15:17:23 CEST Robert Scholte a écrit :
> Hi,
> 
> The Apache Maven project consist of about 90 (sub)projects. Due to the
> small number of volunteers and the huge amount of code to maintain we're
> missing enough space to make real progress on all these projects,
> including our ambitious ideas for the next major version(s) of Maven
> itself.
> To be able to gain more focus we need to criticize the current subprojects
> and decide if it is worth maintaining.
> 
> https://maven.apache.org/shared/maven-osgi/ describes the main purpose in
> one line: Library for Maven-OSGi integration.
> There have been only 2 releases: 0.1.0 in July 2007 and 0.2.0 in December
> 2007 and just one open issue by Stuart McCulloch regarding an unclosed jar.
> It is unclear to me if this library is still used. The library is based on
> just 3 files: interface, default implementation and dedicated exception.
> Either the library is complete or never used anymore. In both cases I see
> no real reason to maintain it.
> 
> I therefore propose that we retire the maven-osgi library.
> 
> I don't think it makes sense to do a final release. Instead we should
> update the documentation and freeze the codebase.
> 
> The process for retiring a plugin is described here:
> https://maven.apache.org/developers/retirement-plan-plugins.html
> [https://maven.apache.org/developers/retirement-plan-plugins.html]
> 
> The vote is open for 72 hours.
> [ ] +1 Yes, it's about time
> [ ] -1 No, because...
> 
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Re: [VOTE] Retire Maven OSGi

2019-08-24 Thread Stephane Nicoll
+1

On Fri, Aug 23, 2019 at 3:17 PM Robert Scholte  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> The Apache Maven project consist of about 90 (sub)projects. Due to the
> small number of volunteers and the huge amount of code to maintain we're
> missing enough space to make real progress on all these projects,
> including our ambitious ideas for the next major version(s) of Maven
> itself.
> To be able to gain more focus we need to criticize the current
> subprojects
> and decide if it is worth maintaining.
>
> https://maven.apache.org/shared/maven-osgi/ describes the main purpose
> in
> one line: Library for Maven-OSGi integration.
> There have been only 2 releases: 0.1.0 in July 2007 and 0.2.0 in December
> 2007 and just one open issue by Stuart McCulloch regarding an unclosed jar.
> It is unclear to me if this library is still used. The library is based
> on
> just 3 files: interface, default implementation and dedicated exception.
> Either the library is complete or never used anymore. In both cases I see
> no real reason to maintain it.
>
> I therefore propose that we retire the maven-osgi library.
>
> I don't think it makes sense to do a final release. Instead we should
> update the documentation and freeze the codebase.
>
> The process for retiring a plugin is described here:
> https://maven.apache.org/developers/retirement-plan-plugins.html
> [https://maven.apache.org/developers/retirement-plan-plugins.html]
>
> The vote is open for 72 hours.
> [ ] +1 Yes, it's about time
> [ ] -1 No, because...
>
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>


Re: [VOTE] Retire Maven OSGi

2019-08-23 Thread Enrico Olivelli
+1
Thank you Dirk for checking

Enrico

Il giorno ven 23 ago 2019 alle ore 20:48 Arnaud Héritier <
aherit...@gmail.com> ha scritto:

> +1
>
> Le ven. 23 août 2019 à 15:17, Robert Scholte  a
> écrit :
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > The Apache Maven project consist of about 90 (sub)projects. Due to the
> > small number of volunteers and the huge amount of code to maintain we're
> > missing enough space to make real progress on all these projects,
> > including our ambitious ideas for the next major version(s) of Maven
> > itself.
> > To be able to gain more focus we need to criticize the current
> > subprojects
> > and decide if it is worth maintaining.
> >
> > https://maven.apache.org/shared/maven-osgi/ describes the main purpose
> > in
> > one line: Library for Maven-OSGi integration.
> > There have been only 2 releases: 0.1.0 in July 2007 and 0.2.0 in December
> > 2007 and just one open issue by Stuart McCulloch regarding an unclosed
> jar.
> > It is unclear to me if this library is still used. The library is based
> > on
> > just 3 files: interface, default implementation and dedicated exception.
> > Either the library is complete or never used anymore. In both cases I see
> > no real reason to maintain it.
> >
> > I therefore propose that we retire the maven-osgi library.
> >
> > I don't think it makes sense to do a final release. Instead we should
> > update the documentation and freeze the codebase.
> >
> > The process for retiring a plugin is described here:
> > https://maven.apache.org/developers/retirement-plan-plugins.html
> > [https://maven.apache.org/developers/retirement-plan-plugins.html]
> >
> > The vote is open for 72 hours.
> > [ ] +1 Yes, it's about time
> > [ ] -1 No, because...
> >
> > -
> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org
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> >
> > --
> -
> Arnaud Héritier
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> Twitter/Skype : aheritier
>


Re: [VOTE] Retire Maven OSGi

2019-08-23 Thread Arnaud Héritier
+1

Le ven. 23 août 2019 à 15:17, Robert Scholte  a
écrit :

> Hi,
>
> The Apache Maven project consist of about 90 (sub)projects. Due to the
> small number of volunteers and the huge amount of code to maintain we're
> missing enough space to make real progress on all these projects,
> including our ambitious ideas for the next major version(s) of Maven
> itself.
> To be able to gain more focus we need to criticize the current
> subprojects
> and decide if it is worth maintaining.
>
> https://maven.apache.org/shared/maven-osgi/ describes the main purpose
> in
> one line: Library for Maven-OSGi integration.
> There have been only 2 releases: 0.1.0 in July 2007 and 0.2.0 in December
> 2007 and just one open issue by Stuart McCulloch regarding an unclosed jar.
> It is unclear to me if this library is still used. The library is based
> on
> just 3 files: interface, default implementation and dedicated exception.
> Either the library is complete or never used anymore. In both cases I see
> no real reason to maintain it.
>
> I therefore propose that we retire the maven-osgi library.
>
> I don't think it makes sense to do a final release. Instead we should
> update the documentation and freeze the codebase.
>
> The process for retiring a plugin is described here:
> https://maven.apache.org/developers/retirement-plan-plugins.html
> [https://maven.apache.org/developers/retirement-plan-plugins.html]
>
> The vote is open for 72 hours.
> [ ] +1 Yes, it's about time
> [ ] -1 No, because...
>
> -
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Re: [VOTE] Retire Maven OSGi

2019-08-23 Thread Michael Osipov

Am 2019-08-23 um 15:17 schrieb Robert Scholte:

Hi,

The Apache Maven project consist of about 90 (sub)projects. Due to the 
small number of volunteers and the huge amount of code to maintain we're 
missing enough space to make real progress on all these projects, 
including our ambitious ideas for the next major version(s) of Maven 
itself.
To be able to gain more focus we need to criticize the current 
subprojects and decide if it is worth maintaining.


https://maven.apache.org/shared/maven-osgi/ describes the main purpose 
in one line: Library for Maven-OSGi integration.
There have been only 2 releases: 0.1.0 in July 2007 and 0.2.0 in 
December 2007 and just one open issue by Stuart McCulloch regarding an 
unclosed jar.
It is unclear to me if this library is still used. The library is based 
on just 3 files: interface, default implementation and dedicated exception.
Either the library is complete or never used anymore. In both cases I 
see no real reason to maintain it.


I therefore propose that we retire the maven-osgi library.

I don't think it makes sense to do a final release. Instead we should 
update the documentation and freeze the codebase.


The process for retiring a plugin is described here:
https://maven.apache.org/developers/retirement-plan-plugins.html 
[https://maven.apache.org/developers/retirement-plan-plugins.html]


+1

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Re: [VOTE] Retire Maven OSGi

2019-08-23 Thread Tibor Digana
Hi Dirk,

This project is not worth a plugin, it is a pure converter of single class.
In this case it is legal to adopt this code according to the license.
Anyway the Maven is not the OSGi. The OSGi is not our key API we deliver to
our customers.
We have to save our energy on what makes Maven The Maven.

Cheers
Tibor17

On Fri, Aug 23, 2019 at 5:21 PM Dirk Mahler 
wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I'm not using it but just for curiosity I checked on Maven Central if
> some artifacts have been pushed there recently that declare a dependency
> to this artifact (maven-osgi):
>
> "0.2.0" "org.glassfish.hk2:consolidatedbundle-maven-plugin:pom:2.6.0"
> "2019-07-31T22:22:29Z"
> "0.2.0" "org.glassfish.hk2:osgiversion-maven-plugin:pom:2.6.0"
> "2019-07-31T22:21:55Z"
> "0.2.0" "org.apache.sling:slingstart-maven-plugin:pom:1.8.4"
> "2019-06-13T11:29:18Z"
> "0.2.0" "org.apache.sling:slingfeature-maven-plugin:pom:1.0.4"
> "2019-06-13T09:52:03Z"
> ...
>
> Hope it helps for voting.
>
> Cheers
>
> Dirk
>
> -- Originalnachricht --
> Von: "Robert Scholte" 
> An: "Apache Maven Dev" 
> Cc: "Apache Maven Users" 
> Gesendet: 23.08.2019 15:17:23
> Betreff: [VOTE] Retire Maven OSGi
>
> >Hi,
> >
> >The Apache Maven project consist of about 90 (sub)projects. Due to the
> small number of volunteers and the huge amount of code to maintain we're
> missing enough space to make real progress on all these projects,
> including our ambitious ideas for the next major version(s) of Maven
> itself.
> >To be able to gain more focus we need to criticize the current
> subprojects  and decide if it is worth maintaining.
> >
> >https://maven.apache.org/shared/maven-osgi/ describes the main purpose
> in  one line: Library for Maven-OSGi integration.
> >There have been only 2 releases: 0.1.0 in July 2007 and 0.2.0 in
> December  2007 and just one open issue by Stuart McCulloch regarding an
> unclosed jar.
> >It is unclear to me if this library is still used. The library is based
> on  just 3 files: interface, default implementation and dedicated exception.
> >Either the library is complete or never used anymore. In both cases I
> see  no real reason to maintain it.
> >
> >I therefore propose that we retire the maven-osgi library.
> >
> >I don't think it makes sense to do a final release. Instead we should
> update the documentation and freeze the codebase.
> >
> >The process for retiring a plugin is described here:
> >https://maven.apache.org/developers/retirement-plan-plugins.html  [
> https://maven.apache.org/developers/retirement-plan-plugins.html]
> >
> >The vote is open for 72 hours.
> >[ ] +1 Yes, it's about time
> >[ ] -1 No, because...
> >
> >-
> >To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org
> >For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org
> >


Re: [VOTE] Retire Maven OSGi

2019-08-23 Thread Karl Heinz Marbaise

Hi,

+1 from me.

Kind regards
Karl Heinz Marbaise
On 23.08.19 15:17, Robert Scholte wrote:

Hi,

The Apache Maven project consist of about 90 (sub)projects. Due to the
small number of volunteers and the huge amount of code to maintain we're
missing enough space to make real progress on all these projects,
including our ambitious ideas for the next major version(s) of Maven
itself.
To be able to gain more focus we need to criticize the current
subprojects and decide if it is worth maintaining.

https://maven.apache.org/shared/maven-osgi/ describes the main purpose
in one line: Library for Maven-OSGi integration.
There have been only 2 releases: 0.1.0 in July 2007 and 0.2.0 in
December 2007 and just one open issue by Stuart McCulloch regarding an
unclosed jar.
It is unclear to me if this library is still used. The library is based
on just 3 files: interface, default implementation and dedicated exception.
Either the library is complete or never used anymore. In both cases I
see no real reason to maintain it.

I therefore propose that we retire the maven-osgi library.

I don't think it makes sense to do a final release. Instead we should
update the documentation and freeze the codebase.

The process for retiring a plugin is described here:
https://maven.apache.org/developers/retirement-plan-plugins.html
[https://maven.apache.org/developers/retirement-plan-plugins.html]

The vote is open for 72 hours.
[ ] +1 Yes, it's about time
[ ] -1 No, because...

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Re: [VOTE] Retire Maven OSGi

2019-08-23 Thread Dirk Mahler

Hi,

I'm not using it but just for curiosity I checked on Maven Central if 
some artifacts have been pushed there recently that declare a dependency 
to this artifact (maven-osgi):


"0.2.0"	"org.glassfish.hk2:consolidatedbundle-maven-plugin:pom:2.6.0" 
"2019-07-31T22:22:29Z"
"0.2.0"	"org.glassfish.hk2:osgiversion-maven-plugin:pom:2.6.0" 
"2019-07-31T22:21:55Z"
"0.2.0"	"org.apache.sling:slingstart-maven-plugin:pom:1.8.4" 
"2019-06-13T11:29:18Z"
"0.2.0"	"org.apache.sling:slingfeature-maven-plugin:pom:1.0.4" 
"2019-06-13T09:52:03Z"

...

Hope it helps for voting.

Cheers

Dirk

-- Originalnachricht --
Von: "Robert Scholte" 
An: "Apache Maven Dev" 
Cc: "Apache Maven Users" 
Gesendet: 23.08.2019 15:17:23
Betreff: [VOTE] Retire Maven OSGi


Hi,

The Apache Maven project consist of about 90 (sub)projects. Due to the  small 
number of volunteers and the huge amount of code to maintain we're  missing 
enough space to make real progress on all these projects,  including our 
ambitious ideas for the next major version(s) of Maven  itself.
To be able to gain more focus we need to criticize the current subprojects  and 
decide if it is worth maintaining.

https://maven.apache.org/shared/maven-osgi/ describes the main purpose in  one 
line: Library for Maven-OSGi integration.
There have been only 2 releases: 0.1.0 in July 2007 and 0.2.0 in December  2007 
and just one open issue by Stuart McCulloch regarding an unclosed jar.
It is unclear to me if this library is still used. The library is based on  
just 3 files: interface, default implementation and dedicated exception.
Either the library is complete or never used anymore. In both cases I see  no 
real reason to maintain it.

I therefore propose that we retire the maven-osgi library.

I don't think it makes sense to do a final release. Instead we should  update 
the documentation and freeze the codebase.

The process for retiring a plugin is described here:
https://maven.apache.org/developers/retirement-plan-plugins.html  
[https://maven.apache.org/developers/retirement-plan-plugins.html]

The vote is open for 72 hours.
[ ] +1 Yes, it's about time
[ ] -1 No, because...

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Re: [VOTE] Retire Maven OSGi

2019-08-23 Thread Tibor Digana
There's very good BND plugin org.apache.felix:maven-bundle-plugin.
+1 to retire and delete old https://maven.apache.org/shared/maven-osgi/
Cheers
Tibor17

On Fri, Aug 23, 2019 at 3:17 PM Robert Scholte  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> The Apache Maven project consist of about 90 (sub)projects. Due to the
> small number of volunteers and the huge amount of code to maintain we're
> missing enough space to make real progress on all these projects,
> including our ambitious ideas for the next major version(s) of Maven
> itself.
> To be able to gain more focus we need to criticize the current
> subprojects
> and decide if it is worth maintaining.
>
> https://maven.apache.org/shared/maven-osgi/ describes the main purpose
> in
> one line: Library for Maven-OSGi integration.
> There have been only 2 releases: 0.1.0 in July 2007 and 0.2.0 in December
> 2007 and just one open issue by Stuart McCulloch regarding an unclosed jar.
> It is unclear to me if this library is still used. The library is based
> on
> just 3 files: interface, default implementation and dedicated exception.
> Either the library is complete or never used anymore. In both cases I see
> no real reason to maintain it.
>
> I therefore propose that we retire the maven-osgi library.
>
> I don't think it makes sense to do a final release. Instead we should
> update the documentation and freeze the codebase.
>
> The process for retiring a plugin is described here:
> https://maven.apache.org/developers/retirement-plan-plugins.html
> [https://maven.apache.org/developers/retirement-plan-plugins.html]
>
> The vote is open for 72 hours.
> [ ] +1 Yes, it's about time
> [ ] -1 No, because...
>
> -
> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org
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>


Re: [VOTE] Retire Maven OSGi

2019-08-23 Thread Anders Hammar
+1

/Anders (mobile)

Den fre 23 aug. 2019 15:17Robert Scholte  skrev:

> Hi,
>
> The Apache Maven project consist of about 90 (sub)projects. Due to the
> small number of volunteers and the huge amount of code to maintain we're
> missing enough space to make real progress on all these projects,
> including our ambitious ideas for the next major version(s) of Maven
> itself.
> To be able to gain more focus we need to criticize the current
> subprojects
> and decide if it is worth maintaining.
>
> https://maven.apache.org/shared/maven-osgi/ describes the main purpose
> in
> one line: Library for Maven-OSGi integration.
> There have been only 2 releases: 0.1.0 in July 2007 and 0.2.0 in December
> 2007 and just one open issue by Stuart McCulloch regarding an unclosed jar.
> It is unclear to me if this library is still used. The library is based
> on
> just 3 files: interface, default implementation and dedicated exception.
> Either the library is complete or never used anymore. In both cases I see
> no real reason to maintain it.
>
> I therefore propose that we retire the maven-osgi library.
>
> I don't think it makes sense to do a final release. Instead we should
> update the documentation and freeze the codebase.
>
> The process for retiring a plugin is described here:
> https://maven.apache.org/developers/retirement-plan-plugins.html
> [https://maven.apache.org/developers/retirement-plan-plugins.html]
>
> The vote is open for 72 hours.
> [ ] +1 Yes, it's about time
> [ ] -1 No, because...
>
> -
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Re: [VOTE] Retire Maven OSGi

2019-08-23 Thread Tamás Cservenák
+1

On Fri, Aug 23, 2019 at 3:17 PM Robert Scholte  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> The Apache Maven project consist of about 90 (sub)projects. Due to the
> small number of volunteers and the huge amount of code to maintain we're
> missing enough space to make real progress on all these projects,
> including our ambitious ideas for the next major version(s) of Maven
> itself.
> To be able to gain more focus we need to criticize the current
> subprojects
> and decide if it is worth maintaining.
>
> https://maven.apache.org/shared/maven-osgi/ describes the main purpose
> in
> one line: Library for Maven-OSGi integration.
> There have been only 2 releases: 0.1.0 in July 2007 and 0.2.0 in December
> 2007 and just one open issue by Stuart McCulloch regarding an unclosed jar.
> It is unclear to me if this library is still used. The library is based
> on
> just 3 files: interface, default implementation and dedicated exception.
> Either the library is complete or never used anymore. In both cases I see
> no real reason to maintain it.
>
> I therefore propose that we retire the maven-osgi library.
>
> I don't think it makes sense to do a final release. Instead we should
> update the documentation and freeze the codebase.
>
> The process for retiring a plugin is described here:
> https://maven.apache.org/developers/retirement-plan-plugins.html
> [https://maven.apache.org/developers/retirement-plan-plugins.html]
>
> The vote is open for 72 hours.
> [ ] +1 Yes, it's about time
> [ ] -1 No, because...
>
> -
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>


[VOTE] Retire Maven OSGi

2019-08-23 Thread Robert Scholte

Hi,

The Apache Maven project consist of about 90 (sub)projects. Due to the  
small number of volunteers and the huge amount of code to maintain we're  
missing enough space to make real progress on all these projects,  
including our ambitious ideas for the next major version(s) of Maven  
itself.
To be able to gain more focus we need to criticize the current subprojects  
and decide if it is worth maintaining.


https://maven.apache.org/shared/maven-osgi/ describes the main purpose in  
one line: Library for Maven-OSGi integration.
There have been only 2 releases: 0.1.0 in July 2007 and 0.2.0 in December  
2007 and just one open issue by Stuart McCulloch regarding an unclosed jar.
It is unclear to me if this library is still used. The library is based on  
just 3 files: interface, default implementation and dedicated exception.
Either the library is complete or never used anymore. In both cases I see  
no real reason to maintain it.


I therefore propose that we retire the maven-osgi library.

I don't think it makes sense to do a final release. Instead we should  
update the documentation and freeze the codebase.


The process for retiring a plugin is described here:
https://maven.apache.org/developers/retirement-plan-plugins.html  
[https://maven.apache.org/developers/retirement-plan-plugins.html]


The vote is open for 72 hours.
[ ] +1 Yes, it's about time
[ ] -1 No, because...

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