As we launched the other thread about removing the Java 6 support after
september I never communicated about this survey but it seems that we have
some readers here as we had 180 replies without doing anything :
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-Original Message-
From: Kristian Rosenvold [mailto:kristian.rosenv...@zenior.no]
Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 8:37 AM
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Subject: Re: Java version usage survey
I tucked away the last public
2013/7/17 Olivier Lamy ol...@apache.org:
2013/7/17 Stephen Connolly stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com:
On 16 July 2013 23:01, Arnaud Héritier aherit...@gmail.com wrote:
Until Jenkins gets upgraded to 1.520+ at which point the (crappy in my
personal view) Maven job type will be unable to
On 17 July 2013 10:09, Olivier Lamy ol...@apache.org wrote:
2013/7/17 Olivier Lamy ol...@apache.org:
2013/7/17 Stephen Connolly stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com:
On 16 July 2013 23:01, Arnaud Héritier aherit...@gmail.com wrote:
Until Jenkins gets upgraded to 1.520+ at which point
Note that to have the fix and be able to use Maven 3.1.0, jenkins users
will have to upgrade which won't be soon for many of them
(Myself I'm using the latest really stable one : the 1.480 LTS)
On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 11:31 AM, Stephen Connolly
stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com wrote:
On 17
That would likely be a fix that any organizations providing longer term
support would likely backport for their enterprise versions of Jenkins...
On 17 July 2013 10:53, Arnaud Héritier aherit...@gmail.com wrote:
Note that to have the fix and be able to use Maven 3.1.0, jenkins users
will have
On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 10:07 AM, Arnaud Héritier aherit...@gmail.comwrote:
Hi,
Java 6 EOL was in feb and Maven and its plugins are always compatible
Oracle Java 6 was EOL'd.
IBM Java 6 was, and is not due to be for a few more years. They even
*extended* 1.5's life for a year. Sept this
+1 to ensure that we have a good solution (toolchains) to continue to keep
a compatibility with old Java builds.
Like always, upgrading the prerequisite of the core is less annoying than
the one in plugins.
Users can always keep an old core (and many of them will do it as far as
new core versions
As long as surefire can fork down to 1.5 and as long as tool chains can
compile with 1.5, the only issue I can see is if the development
environments where these older JVMs are running do not have newer JDKs
available also.
This is the same issue we face in the Jenkins project, were we are
Good point. I updated the survey to tell it is the Oracle JDK EOL
Survey :
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1Jqxq2KgSricwS7YV7pmWvHA8m7_TE7c8JhusugPmGW4/viewform
Replies :
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1Jqxq2KgSricwS7YV7pmWvHA8m7_TE7c8JhusugPmGW4/viewanalytics
On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 8:06 AM,
For all of those who asked to access to replies (I didn't see they were
protected) I'll find a solution to share these results when the survey will
be really started/published.
On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 8:19 AM, Arnaud Héritier aherit...@gmail.comwrote:
Good point. I updated the survey to tell
Hi Arnaud.
You need to at least add an OTHER (ie non oracle) entry as well. You you
can track Oracle java 6 and Non-Oracle java 6.
-Chris
On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 4:19 PM, Arnaud Héritier aherit...@gmail.comwrote:
Good point. I updated the survey to tell it is the Oracle JDK EOL
Survey :
My 2c:
- J7 on Mac is unstable (trust me...) and non-performant, and thus I
require my users to use Apple's J6 on the Mac.
- On Linux there are lots of Swing bugs in all versions, but a lot less
in J7 than J6, so I recommend J7 for Linux guys.
- I don't use J5 for anything at all
I've put a question on Stack Overflow:
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/17671899/when-is-java-6-end-of-life-in-the-context-of-writing-developer-toolsto
see if we can get something that is a bit more focus on facts.
e.g. we are all OSS developers: thus premium/extended/sustaining support
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From: Stephen Connolly [mailto:stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 3:47 AM
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Subject: Re: Java version usage survey
I've put a question on Stack Overflow:
http
with Josh Bregman and Paul Done
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I've put a question on Stack Overflow:
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/17671899/when-is-java-6-end-of-life-in-the-context-of-writing-developer-toolsto
see if we can get something that is a bit more focus on facts.
e.g
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see if we can
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I've put a question on Stack Overflow:
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see if we can get something that is a bit more focus on facts.
e.g. we
with Josh Bregman and Paul Done
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responsabilité
pour le contenu fourni.
Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2013 12:35:06 +0100
Subject: Re: Java version usage survey
From: stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com
To: dev@maven.apache.org
Speaking as a Maven Developer...
My primary development machine is OS-X.
On that machine I have 1.6.0_24
and on win box.
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I rum mainly on OSX for client and some Linuxes for server - so client side is
= JDK 1.6
pour le contenu fourni.
Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2013 12:35:06 +0100
Subject: Re: Java version usage survey
From: stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com
To: dev@maven.apache.org
Speaking as a Maven Developer...
My primary development machine is OS-X.
On that machine I have 1.6.0_24-b07-334
+0100
Subject: Re: Java version usage survey
From: stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com
To: dev@maven.apache.org
Speaking as a Maven Developer...
My primary development machine is OS-X.
On that machine I have 1.6.0_24-b07-334, 1.7.0_17, 1.7.0_21, and
1.7.0_25
I have
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I've put a question on Stack Overflow:
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Message-
From: Stephen Connolly [mailto:stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com]
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I've put a question on Stack Overflow:
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I've put a question on Stack Overflow:
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see if we can get
Connolly [mailto:stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com]
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I've put a question on Stack Overflow:
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Connolly [mailto:stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com]
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I've put a question on Stack Overflow:
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and Paul Done
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Look you chickens; until quite recently I kept a 1.3 JVM running on windows to
do the occasional
test of surefire on jdk 1.3. (I kept a vmware image since installing 1.3 on
linux required surrendering your first born to Sauron) All your complaining
about not being able to run 1.5 sounds like
16. juli 2013 kl. 07:35 skrev Stephen Connolly
stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com:
- have we good test coverage with toolchains?
No.
Kristian
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On 16 July 2013 21:52, Kristian Rosenvold kristian.rosenv...@zenior.nowrote:
Look you chickens; until quite recently I kept a 1.3 JVM running on
windows to do the occasional
test of surefire on jdk 1.3. (I kept a vmware image since installing 1.3
on linux required surrendering your first
Until Jenkins gets upgraded to 1.520+ at which point the (crappy in my
personal view) Maven job type will be unable to run 1.5
The crappy one which doesn't work with Maven 3.1.0 too (I tested it this
afternoon)
Can still keep trucking with a FreeStyle + Maven Build Step though (and I
On 16 July 2013 23:01, Arnaud Héritier aherit...@gmail.com wrote:
Until Jenkins gets upgraded to 1.520+ at which point the (crappy in my
personal view) Maven job type will be unable to run 1.5
The crappy one which doesn't work with Maven 3.1.0 too (I tested it this
afternoon)
On 17 July 2013 07:31, Arnaud Héritier aherit...@gmail.com wrote:
Can still keep trucking with a FreeStyle + Maven Build Step though (and I
prefer that way anyway)
asJenkinsUser
Me too if we backport features from the crappy maven integration into the
freestyle job (automatic dependencies,
On 16 July 2013 23:25, Barrie Treloar baerr...@gmail.com wrote:
On 17 July 2013 07:31, Arnaud Héritier aherit...@gmail.com wrote:
Can still keep trucking with a FreeStyle + Maven Build Step though (and
I
prefer that way anyway)
asJenkinsUser
Me too if we backport features from the
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]
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2013/7/17 Stephen Connolly stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com:
On 16 July 2013 23:01, Arnaud Héritier aherit...@gmail.com wrote:
Until Jenkins gets upgraded to 1.520+ at which point the (crappy in my
personal view) Maven job type will be unable to run 1.5
The crappy one which doesn't
Hi,
Java 6 EOL was in feb and Maven and its plugins are always compatible
with Java 5 (And probably various plugins with Java 4).
Couldn't it be interesting to see which JDKs our users are using to see
how we can schedule the end of support of Java 5 (and more). Perhaps a
removal of Java 5
On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 8:07 PM, Arnaud Héritier aherit...@gmail.comwrote:
Hi,
Java 6 EOL was in feb and Maven and its plugins are always compatible
with Java 5 (And probably various plugins with Java 4).
Couldn't it be interesting to see which JDKs our users are using to see
how we can
On Jul 16, 2013 2:08 AM, Arnaud Héritier aherit...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi,
Java 6 EOL was in feb and Maven and its plugins are always compatible
with Java 5 (And probably various plugins with Java 4).
Couldn't it be interesting to see which JDKs our users are using to see
how we can
Given that Oracle have stated they will be more aggressive in forcing
people to upgrade, eg -target (and I think -source too) will not got all
the way down to 1.2 any more from JDK8 IIRC, we will need to sort out a few
things:
- is toolchains the way to go?
- have we good test coverage with
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