Re: [DISCUSS] Central Navigation for Alerts and Management UI

2019-03-11 Thread zeo...@gmail.com
I use both screens frequently on prod clusters.  I don't know how prevalent
that use case is though.

Jon

On Mon, Mar 11, 2019 at 7:33 AM Shane Ardell 
wrote:

> Good point, Otto. Just posted there now.
>
> On Mon, Mar 11, 2019 at 12:11 PM Otto Fowler 
> wrote:
>
> > Maybe you should post to the users@ list
> >
> >
> > On March 11, 2019 at 06:25:48, Shane Ardell (shane.m.ard...@gmail.com)
> > wrote:
> >
> > Thank you both for explaining the original design choice. That does make
> > sense.
> >
> > However, like both of you point out, I am also curious if anyone has
> direct
> > user feedback indicating a need for either persona to switch between
> > screens.
> >
> > Shane
> >
> > On Tue, Mar 5, 2019 at 7:25 PM Rita McKissick <
> rmckiss...@hortonworks.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > That was my thought, too. The Management UI is meant for the Operations
> > > persona.
> > > And the Alerts UI is meant for the SOC analyst persona. If we see a
> need
> > > for either of these
> > > personas to use both of the UIs, then the ability to switch between the
> > > two UIs would
> > > be great. Otherwise, I'm not sure that ability is necessary.
> > >
> > > As an aside, as the tech writer I would love to be able to switch
> between
> > > the two UIs, but I'm not
> > > really one of our supported personas __ Darn!
> > >
> > > Rita
> > >
> > > Rita McKissick ! Sr. Technical Writer
> > > rmckiss...@hortonworks.com
> > > (mobile) 831-234-3676 <(831)%20234-3676>
> > >
> > >
> > > On 3/5/19, 9:50 AM, "Michael Miklavcic" 
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > The original design was done with the intent to keep the user profiles
> > > (soc
> > > analyst vs ops personnel) separate and enable a microservices-oriented
> > > architecture. I don't have a strong opinion one way or the other, but
> > > I'd
> > > be interested to hear whether others in the community find this wall
> > > useful, or if we should come back to a single pain of glass.
> > >
> > > Mike
> > >
> > > On Tue, Mar 5, 2019 at 9:12 AM Shane Ardell 
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hello everyone,
> > > >
> > > > I recently started experimenting with implementing a navigation bar
> > > in both
> > > > the Alerts and Management UI. It would allow us to navigate between
> > > the two
> > > > UIs through links instead of manually entering a url or opening
> > > separate
> > > > tabs from Ambari.
> > > >
> > > > I'm just wondering what everyone's thoughts are. Is this something
> > > we want
> > > > in Metron?
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>
-- 

Jon Zeolla


Re: [DISCUSS] Central Navigation for Alerts and Management UI

2019-03-11 Thread Shane Ardell
Good point, Otto. Just posted there now.

On Mon, Mar 11, 2019 at 12:11 PM Otto Fowler 
wrote:

> Maybe you should post to the users@ list
>
>
> On March 11, 2019 at 06:25:48, Shane Ardell (shane.m.ard...@gmail.com)
> wrote:
>
> Thank you both for explaining the original design choice. That does make
> sense.
>
> However, like both of you point out, I am also curious if anyone has direct
> user feedback indicating a need for either persona to switch between
> screens.
>
> Shane
>
> On Tue, Mar 5, 2019 at 7:25 PM Rita McKissick 
> wrote:
>
> > That was my thought, too. The Management UI is meant for the Operations
> > persona.
> > And the Alerts UI is meant for the SOC analyst persona. If we see a need
> > for either of these
> > personas to use both of the UIs, then the ability to switch between the
> > two UIs would
> > be great. Otherwise, I'm not sure that ability is necessary.
> >
> > As an aside, as the tech writer I would love to be able to switch between
> > the two UIs, but I'm not
> > really one of our supported personas __ Darn!
> >
> > Rita
> >
> > Rita McKissick ! Sr. Technical Writer
> > rmckiss...@hortonworks.com
> > (mobile) 831-234-3676
> >
> >
> > On 3/5/19, 9:50 AM, "Michael Miklavcic" 
> > wrote:
> >
> > The original design was done with the intent to keep the user profiles
> > (soc
> > analyst vs ops personnel) separate and enable a microservices-oriented
> > architecture. I don't have a strong opinion one way or the other, but
> > I'd
> > be interested to hear whether others in the community find this wall
> > useful, or if we should come back to a single pain of glass.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > On Tue, Mar 5, 2019 at 9:12 AM Shane Ardell 
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Hello everyone,
> > >
> > > I recently started experimenting with implementing a navigation bar
> > in both
> > > the Alerts and Management UI. It would allow us to navigate between
> > the two
> > > UIs through links instead of manually entering a url or opening
> > separate
> > > tabs from Ambari.
> > >
> > > I'm just wondering what everyone's thoughts are. Is this something
> > we want
> > > in Metron?
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>


Re: [DISCUSS] Central Navigation for Alerts and Management UI

2019-03-11 Thread Otto Fowler
Maybe you should post to the users@ list


On March 11, 2019 at 06:25:48, Shane Ardell (shane.m.ard...@gmail.com)
wrote:

Thank you both for explaining the original design choice. That does make
sense.

However, like both of you point out, I am also curious if anyone has direct
user feedback indicating a need for either persona to switch between
screens.

Shane

On Tue, Mar 5, 2019 at 7:25 PM Rita McKissick 
wrote:

> That was my thought, too. The Management UI is meant for the Operations
> persona.
> And the Alerts UI is meant for the SOC analyst persona. If we see a need
> for either of these
> personas to use both of the UIs, then the ability to switch between the
> two UIs would
> be great. Otherwise, I'm not sure that ability is necessary.
>
> As an aside, as the tech writer I would love to be able to switch between
> the two UIs, but I'm not
> really one of our supported personas __ Darn!
>
> Rita
>
> Rita McKissick ! Sr. Technical Writer
> rmckiss...@hortonworks.com
> (mobile) 831-234-3676
>
>
> On 3/5/19, 9:50 AM, "Michael Miklavcic" 
> wrote:
>
> The original design was done with the intent to keep the user profiles
> (soc
> analyst vs ops personnel) separate and enable a microservices-oriented
> architecture. I don't have a strong opinion one way or the other, but
> I'd
> be interested to hear whether others in the community find this wall
> useful, or if we should come back to a single pain of glass.
>
> Mike
>
> On Tue, Mar 5, 2019 at 9:12 AM Shane Ardell 
> wrote:
>
> > Hello everyone,
> >
> > I recently started experimenting with implementing a navigation bar
> in both
> > the Alerts and Management UI. It would allow us to navigate between
> the two
> > UIs through links instead of manually entering a url or opening
> separate
> > tabs from Ambari.
> >
> > I'm just wondering what everyone's thoughts are. Is this something
> we want
> > in Metron?
> >
>
>
>


Re: [DISCUSS] Central Navigation for Alerts and Management UI

2019-03-11 Thread Shane Ardell
Thank you both for explaining the original design choice. That does make
sense.

However, like both of you point out, I am also curious if anyone has direct
user feedback indicating a need for either persona to switch between
screens.

Shane

On Tue, Mar 5, 2019 at 7:25 PM Rita McKissick 
wrote:

> That was my thought, too. The Management UI is meant for the Operations
> persona.
> And the Alerts UI is meant for the SOC analyst persona. If we see a need
> for either of these
> personas to use both of the UIs, then the ability to switch between the
> two UIs would
> be great. Otherwise, I'm not sure that ability is necessary.
>
> As an aside, as the tech writer I would love to be able to switch between
> the two UIs, but I'm not
> really one of our supported personas __ Darn!
>
> Rita
>
> Rita McKissick ! Sr. Technical Writer
> rmckiss...@hortonworks.com
> (mobile) 831-234-3676
>
>
> On 3/5/19, 9:50 AM, "Michael Miklavcic" 
> wrote:
>
> The original design was done with the intent to keep the user profiles
> (soc
> analyst vs ops personnel) separate and enable a microservices-oriented
> architecture. I don't have a strong opinion one way or the other, but
> I'd
> be interested to hear whether others in the community find this wall
> useful, or if we should come back to a single pain of glass.
>
> Mike
>
> On Tue, Mar 5, 2019 at 9:12 AM Shane Ardell 
> wrote:
>
> > Hello everyone,
> >
> > I recently started experimenting with implementing a navigation bar
> in both
> > the Alerts and Management UI. It would allow us to navigate between
> the two
> > UIs through links instead of manually entering a url or opening
> separate
> > tabs from Ambari.
> >
> > I'm just wondering what everyone's thoughts are. Is this something
> we want
> > in Metron?
> >
>
>
>