If there are no objections, I plan to start a vote on this tomorrow (Monday)
- Carin
On Fri, Nov 2, 2018 at 10:24 AM Carin Meier wrote:
> Haibin - Now that the updated document on "Becoming a Committer and PPMC
> Member" has been adopted by the community, would you be interested in
> starting a
Haibin - Now that the updated document on "Becoming a Committer and PPMC
Member" has been adopted by the community, would you be interested in
starting a procedural vote on this?
If not, I'd be happy to facilitate, but since it was your idea to start off
with, I thought I would ask :)
Best,
Carin
I am ok with this current doc. The other doc, I forget where it is, has a
list something like “things that will make you a committerpushing a
release out” (or something like that). Which isn’t really the case, since
lots of people who have led a release aren’t committers yet.
On Thu, Oct 18, 2
I think in general it's always a good idea to reduce barriers to entry into
the project. Therefore I think separating committer and PMC roles is a good
idea, as it helps encourage and recognize contributors by giving them
commit early; and then it allows the new committers to spend some more time
t
I suggest we discuss on what the revised criteria for committers will be
and how do committers move up to become a PMC member before voting on the
separation ? I would like to see if that helps grow the community before
Voting on this.
@Chris Olivier Can you clarify what you mean by
bonafide inte
IMHO it’s not a great idea to develop a hard criteria for committer and PMC
as if it were some sort of checklist. If that were the case, then people
would tend to be just laser-focused on checking items off the list rather
than a bonafied drive to improve the product and the community. It would
al
Thanks Micheal for making the process clearer to me. It helps quite a bit.
Also thanks to Chris and Steffen for your clarification and input.
I think there are two issues that are intermingled in considering this. One
relates to separating levels of committer and PMC member. The other, as
Steffen
Haibin's proposed "For active contributors we first invite them to become
our committers. Later on as they make significant contribution, we can
invite them to PMC."
Several people raised the question what defines "active contributors" and
"make significant contribution". In my view the discussion
I believe the assumption has always been that current PMC members will
remain PMC members.
On Wed, Oct 17, 2018 at 3:51 PM Michael Wall wrote:
> I too think separating committers from PMC is a good idea for your project
> given the desire to grow committers and the concerns I have seen trying to
I too think separating committers from PMC is a good idea for your project
given the desire to grow committers and the concerns I have seen trying to
add new committers. I saw at least one other mentor, Jim on this thread
too.
Is the plan to leave all current PMC members in the PMC? If that is n
Let me rephrase the question.
Since I'm new to the committer/PMC process, I wondering what the next step
is in a proposed change of process like this.
If we gauge that there is a significant enough interest do we propose a
vote? Is there enough interest and information to have a vote in this case
This has been a very interesting discussion and I think it underlined a
desire to increase the committer pool and community for the project. I'm
wondering now what the next steps would look like?
Do any mentors have any advice on how to proceed?
- Carin
On Thu, Oct 11, 2018 at 1:23 PM Jim Jagiel
In my experience, and in my opinion, it makes sense to distinguish and
differentiate between a committer and a PMC member. The latter shows just a bit
more "investment" in the project and has obtained a bit more merit due to their
continued efforts.
Of course, what we also need is some public g
On 2018/10/10 09:04:30, kellen sunderland wrote:
> When it comes to responsibilities one high-level suggestion I'd make is
> that core members retain decision making abilities for the 'big' decisions
> where experience is required.
Written from the PMC point of view:
Every individual member of
Hi Haibin - thanks for driving the discussion and thanks to Isabel to
suggest review of roles and responsibilities.
I do agree with the points Sandeep raised. I though about such separation
myself and discussed with a few project members.
Honestly, I got mixed feedback and couldn't really give myse
Thanks for bringing up here. I think this topic and suggestions should be a
little more concrete by clarifying the difference between the role of
committer and PMC member.
Based on my understanding of here are my comments and concerns
1) I agree we need to bring more committers into the project,
Am 10. Oktober 2018 16:16:47 MESZ schrieb sandeep krishnamurthy
:
>However, like others suggested, success of this whole effort will be
>based
>on defining clear responsibility of PMC, committers and path for the
>community to be part of committers and PMC.
PMC member and chair are ASF defined
+1
This will be very useful for increasing our committer pool that has
expertise in various components and not necessarily across and complete
in-depth expertise. This will have mainly 3 major positive impact on the
project:
1. Will greatly help in managing PRs and issues with fast turn around.
The
Am 10. Oktober 2018 11:04:30 MESZ schrieb kellen sunderland
:
> My
>impression is there's a high degree of knowledge and experience
>required to
>make strategic design decisions on the project.
This statement indicates a certain understanding of what a PMC actually does.
As a first step, wo
I think it makes a lot of sense to separate these roles Haibin. My
impression is there's a high degree of knowledge and experience required to
make strategic design decisions on the project. There's a bunch of core
members of the team that have that knowledge, and I feel there's a bit of
an un-wr
Am 10. Oktober 2018 04:31:49 MESZ schrieb Chris Olivier :
>is it convenient to define the difference and the rights and privileges
>of
>each? write access, private list, voting and veto power, etc?
+1 - also, likely it would make sense to also list the responsibilities of each.
Isabel
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is it convenient to define the difference and the rights and privileges of
each? write access, private list, voting and veto power, etc?
On Tue, Oct 9, 2018 at 11:11 AM Haibin Lin wrote:
> Dear MXNet community,
>
> In the past when we invite a person to become a committer, he/she is
> automatica
Dear MXNet community,
In the past when we invite a person to become a committer, he/she is
automatically made a PMC member. However, a lot of communities keep a small
PMC, and a bigger and more diverse committers to enrich the community. This
has the benefit of having two opportunities to encourag
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