AW: [DISCUSS] Apache NetBeans roadmap updates

2018-11-17 Thread Christian Lenz
t; > > why you can add a lot of stuff to the Java Editor with 3rd-party > Plugins. > > > If we are open-source, we should open minded too to let the Developers > > > decide, whether I want to add my feature into the core and wait 6 month > > > after it is relased to the n

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache NetBeans roadmap updates

2018-11-17 Thread Jan Lahoda
a lot of stuff to the Java Editor with 3rd-party > Plugins. > > > If we are open-source, we should open minded too to let the Developers > > > decide, whether I want to add my feature into the core and wait 6 month > > > after it is relased to the next Vers

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache NetBeans roadmap updates

2018-11-16 Thread Emilian Bold
bring it up today or tomorrow. > > > > > > Cheers > > > > Chris > > > > > > > > Von: Peter Hull > > Gesendet: Donnerstag, 15. November 2018 09:06 > > An: dev.ataur.rah...@gmail.com > > Cc: neilcsm...@apache.org; jiri.koval...@or

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache NetBeans roadmap updates

2018-11-16 Thread Ondro Mihályi
r 2018 09:06 > An: dev.ataur.rah...@gmail.com > Cc: neilcsm...@apache.org; jiri.koval...@oracle.com; NetCAT team; > NetBeans Mailing List; d...@netbeans.apache.org > Betreff: Re: [DISCUSS] Apache NetBeans roadmap updates > > The 2 + 2 option makes sense to me. I'd be interested

AW: [DISCUSS] Apache NetBeans roadmap updates

2018-11-15 Thread Christian Lenz
it up today or tomorrow. Cheers Chris Von: Peter Hull Gesendet: Donnerstag, 15. November 2018 09:06 An: dev.ataur.rah...@gmail.com Cc: neilcsm...@apache.org; jiri.koval...@oracle.com; NetCAT team; NetBeans Mailing List; d...@netbeans.apache.org Betreff: Re: [DISCUSS] Apache NetBeans roadmap

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache NetBeans roadmap updates

2018-11-15 Thread Luca Mambretti
I'm also in favor of 2+2 releases. For me it would also make sense to have only 2 major releases and deliver the patch release fixes with the current update system, but I see no issue in delivering 2 patch releases also. My 2 cents.

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache NetBeans roadmap updates

2018-11-15 Thread Peter Hull
The 2 + 2 option makes sense to me. I'd be interested in hearing people's thoughts about how this lines up with JDK releases: * Is it better to do the NB testing after the general availability of the JDK, or aim to have them released about the same time? * What versions of JDK does Netbeans need

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache NetBeans roadmap updates

2018-11-14 Thread S. M. Ataur Rahman
I am just gonna put my opinion here in two line. I support the idea of two major and two optional release a year. I want to focus on updating my code, not IDE.

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache NetBeans roadmap updates

2018-11-14 Thread Neil C Smith
On Wed, 14 Nov 2018, 22:20 Jiří Kovalský I am glad to see that except two respondents the vast majority likes the > proposal for only two mandatory major (with NetCAT programs) and two > optional minor releases per year. > You could equally say that a vast majority of committers on dev@ wanted

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache NetBeans roadmap updates

2018-11-14 Thread Jiří Kovalský
We should not overreact yet. My 2 cents Cheers Chris Von: Laszlo Kishalmi Gesendet: Dienstag, 13. November 2018 18:08 An: net...@netbeans.apache.org Betreff: Re: [DISCUSS] Apache NetBeans roadmap updates Well, it is not that simple. Having major plugins to have their own release means that

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache NetBeans roadmap updates

2018-11-14 Thread Josh Juneau
Indeed, you are correct Geertjan. I think we are on the same page. Thanks for the proposal...looks great. On Wed, Nov 14, 2018 at 8:47 AM Geertjan Wielenga wrote: > The proposal is exactly as we are all arguing for — including Neil and > Chris — a quarterly release cycle, though with two

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache NetBeans roadmap updates

2018-11-14 Thread Josh Juneau
I like the idea of two major releases each year...those being releases incorporating new functionality. However, I think it would be a good idea to have patch releases in-between...making for a total of four releases each year. Josh On Tue, Nov 13, 2018 at 7:19 AM Geertjan Wielenga wrote: >

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache NetBeans roadmap updates

2018-11-14 Thread Neil C Smith
On Tue, 13 Nov 2018 at 22:17, Christian Lenz wrote: > Maybe reducing the NetCat process or changing it? OK, so in the interests of [DISCUSS] :-) I think Chris is right here. I wasn't able to take part in NetCAT for NB10, but did for NB9, and that process probably does need to adapt. We had a

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache NetBeans roadmap updates

2018-11-13 Thread Neil C Smith
On Tue, 13 Nov 2018, 14:16 Emilian Bold Two releases per year seems more manageable. > The point of 4 was to be more manageable though. Less changes, less pressure for new features to meet deadlines (dropping 3 months less of an issue) I'm happy with either, but I don't think the current

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache NetBeans roadmap updates

2018-11-13 Thread Emilian Bold
Two releases per year seems more manageable. --emi On Tue, Nov 13, 2018 at 3:19 PM Geertjan Wielenga wrote: > > Hi all, > > We've completed the NetCAT process (on the functioning of the convenience > binary of Apache NetBeans 10) and the PPMC vote (on the sources of Apache > NetBeans 10). > >

[DISCUSS] Apache NetBeans roadmap updates

2018-11-13 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
Hi all, We've completed the NetCAT process (on the functioning of the convenience binary of Apache NetBeans 10) and the PPMC vote (on the sources of Apache NetBeans 10). Right now, the IPMC (the incubator project management committee) is voting on the sources of Apache NetBeans 10, since Apache