Re: Happy holidays everyone

2018-12-25 Thread Josh Juneau
Merry Christmas and Happy New Year!  Great work to everyone involved in the 
fantastic Apache NetBeans community!

Josh Juneau
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> On Dec 25, 2018, at 12:28 AM, Emilian Bold  wrote:
> 
> And Merry Christmas!
> 
> It's so nice that we finished the Apache NetBeans 10 voting by Christmas.
> 
> Happy New Year to everyone!
> 
> --emi
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Re: My prio list for NetBeans 11

2018-12-25 Thread Emilian Bold
> Shall we have a wait period, then close these issues as
invalid/incomplete/cannot reproduce?

+1

> Also just to mention one of the easiest way to contribute big to
NetBeans is try to check if a bug is really reproducable, if not then
ask back for more information.

Indeed.


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On Tue, Dec 25, 2018 at 10:25 PM Laszlo Kishalmi
 wrote:
>
> Well, the list is quite interesting. If these were the only priority
> things to do it wouldn't be that hard to release 11.0. Though it
> displays a bit more that we shall do something about our JIRA issues.
> Most issues reported on these list (especially the critical ones),
> cannot be reproduced, poorly documented and/or abandoned by their creator.
>
> Shall we have a wait period, then close these issues as
> invalid/incomplete/cannot reproduce? I'm thinking of:
>
>  1. Someone creates an incomplete issue in the JIRA
>  2. A community member asks for update in the comments.
>  3. If there is no update on the JIRA for 3 months and a community
> member revisits the issue he/she can close it as
> invalid/incomplete/cannot reproduce
>
> Alternate flow:
>
>  1. Someone creates an incomplete issue in the JIRA
>  2. A community member asks for update in the comments.
>  3. If there is no update on the JIRA for 3 months and a community
> member revisits the issue he/she marks it with the label
> "closeifnofeedback"
>  4. Issues with "closeifnofeedback" not updated for one month can be
> closed as invalid/incomplete/cannot reproduce
>
> Of course it is optional process.
>
> It would help to get rid off issues like:
>
>   * https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-646
>   * https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-885
>   * https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-699
>   * https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-939
>   * https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-416
>
> etc. There are many.
>
> Also just to mention one of the easiest way to contribute big to
> NetBeans is try to check if a bug is really reproducable, if not then
> ask back for more information.
>
> On 12/25/18 6:28 AM, Christian Lenz wrote:
> > Hey all,
> >
> > until now I use NetBeans 10 VC5 and waiting for the release w/o vc5 where I 
> > know it will be more or less the same. So for now I have a Little list of 
> > my priorities for NetBeans 11:
> >
> > Performance:
> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/issues/?jql=project%20%3D%20NETBEANS%20AND%20status%20%3D%20Open%20AND%20component%20%3D%20%22ide%20-%20Performance%22
> >
> > Criticals:
> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/issues/?jql=project%20%3D%20NETBEANS%20AND%20status%20%3D%20Open%20AND%20priority%20%3D%20Critical
> >
> >
> > So as I said this is only my „wishlist“ to taking care of. I will help as 
> > much as I can but hope of the help of the pros of the NetBeans IDE 
> > components.
> >
> > The other thing is, did we now decided to not have a quarterly release 
> > anymore still for 2019? What does that mean? What will Change? Only to come 
> > up with that the biggest competitor IntelliJ still has quarterly Releases 
> > and Eclipse now too. IMHO it will be more easier after the complete 
> > donation Phase as I mentioned before.
> >
> > We should create a Backlog for the next release like a release 11 backlog 
> > where we know what will implemented to have a better overview of everything.
> >
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> > Chris
> >

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Re: My prio list for NetBeans 11

2018-12-25 Thread Laszlo Kishalmi
Well, the list is quite interesting. If these were the only priority 
things to do it wouldn't be that hard to release 11.0. Though it 
displays a bit more that we shall do something about our JIRA issues. 
Most issues reported on these list (especially the critical ones), 
cannot be reproduced, poorly documented and/or abandoned by their creator.


Shall we have a wait period, then close these issues as 
invalid/incomplete/cannot reproduce? I'm thinking of:


1. Someone creates an incomplete issue in the JIRA
2. A community member asks for update in the comments.
3. If there is no update on the JIRA for 3 months and a community
   member revisits the issue he/she can close it as
   invalid/incomplete/cannot reproduce

Alternate flow:

1. Someone creates an incomplete issue in the JIRA
2. A community member asks for update in the comments.
3. If there is no update on the JIRA for 3 months and a community
   member revisits the issue he/she marks it with the label
   "closeifnofeedback"
4. Issues with "closeifnofeedback" not updated for one month can be
   closed as invalid/incomplete/cannot reproduce

Of course it is optional process.

It would help to get rid off issues like:

 * https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-646
 * https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-885
 * https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-699
 * https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-939
 * https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-416

etc. There are many.

Also just to mention one of the easiest way to contribute big to 
NetBeans is try to check if a bug is really reproducable, if not then 
ask back for more information.


On 12/25/18 6:28 AM, Christian Lenz wrote:

Hey all,

until now I use NetBeans 10 VC5 and waiting for the release w/o vc5 where I 
know it will be more or less the same. So for now I have a Little list of my 
priorities for NetBeans 11:

Performance:
https://issues.apache.org/jira/issues/?jql=project%20%3D%20NETBEANS%20AND%20status%20%3D%20Open%20AND%20component%20%3D%20%22ide%20-%20Performance%22

Criticals:
https://issues.apache.org/jira/issues/?jql=project%20%3D%20NETBEANS%20AND%20status%20%3D%20Open%20AND%20priority%20%3D%20Critical


So as I said this is only my „wishlist“ to taking care of. I will help as much 
as I can but hope of the help of the pros of the NetBeans IDE components.

The other thing is, did we now decided to not have a quarterly release anymore 
still for 2019? What does that mean? What will Change? Only to come up with 
that the biggest competitor IntelliJ still has quarterly Releases and Eclipse 
now too. IMHO it will be more easier after the complete donation Phase as I 
mentioned before.

We should create a Backlog for the next release like a release 11 backlog where 
we know what will implemented to have a better overview of everything.


Cheers

Chris



My prio list for NetBeans 11

2018-12-25 Thread Christian Lenz
Hey all,

until now I use NetBeans 10 VC5 and waiting for the release w/o vc5 where I 
know it will be more or less the same. So for now I have a Little list of my 
priorities for NetBeans 11:

Performance:
https://issues.apache.org/jira/issues/?jql=project%20%3D%20NETBEANS%20AND%20status%20%3D%20Open%20AND%20component%20%3D%20%22ide%20-%20Performance%22

Criticals:
https://issues.apache.org/jira/issues/?jql=project%20%3D%20NETBEANS%20AND%20status%20%3D%20Open%20AND%20priority%20%3D%20Critical


So as I said this is only my „wishlist“ to taking care of. I will help as much 
as I can but hope of the help of the pros of the NetBeans IDE components.

The other thing is, did we now decided to not have a quarterly release anymore 
still for 2019? What does that mean? What will Change? Only to come up with 
that the biggest competitor IntelliJ still has quarterly Releases and Eclipse 
now too. IMHO it will be more easier after the complete donation Phase as I 
mentioned before.

We should create a Backlog for the next release like a release 11 backlog where 
we know what will implemented to have a better overview of everything.


Cheers

Chris