Re: [DISCUSSION] Apache NetBeans 11.1 Development

[Vano Beridze]

Is there a room to add Java EE 8 support?

On Mon, Mar 25, 2019, 1:29 AM Laszlo Kishalmi 
wrote:

> Dear all,
>
> While we are doing the voting round, I think we need to think about
> NetBeans 11.1.
>
> Are we planning continue do cherry-picking into the release branch for
> 11.1 or do something more sophisticated? I mean 11.1 would be only some
> patch release or bringing some new things as well, like I'm planning to
> donate my Gradle support for Java EE projects.
>
> So any idea?
>
> Laszlo Kishalmi
>
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Re: Java EE 8 API Module for Inclusion with NetBeans

[Vano Beridze]

I've been using Maven and Adam Bien's archtype in NetBeans 8.2.

By Java EE 8 support I mean:
1. Java EE 8 web maven project support natively
2. Support for generation of various xml files (web.xml, persistence.xml,
...) with correct headers
This is what comes to my mind at this point.

On Sun, Mar 17, 2019 at 1:54 PM Geertjan Wielenga
 wrote:

> Seems to me that if you're using Maven, which is more strongly the focus of
> NetBeans than before, that it's not clear what "Java EE 8 support" means.
> I.e., if you use a Java EE 8 Maven archetype[1], such as Adam Bien's
> archetype, and deploy to GlassFish 5.1 (which you can download and start
> from Apache NetBeans 11), then you in fact have Java EE 8 support and
> nothing more is needed.
>
> http://www.adam-bien.com/roller/abien/entry/java_ee_8_essentials_archetype
>
> It's not clear to me what else is needed for Java EE 8 support, except if
> you're focused on Ant, which Apache NetBeans 11 is not. Maybe for the next
> release, i.e., 3 months from now, assuming quarterly releases, we should
> determine what Java EE 8 support means.
>
> For now, the fact that we are managing to integrate Java EE from the Oracle
> donation for the first time, is a big step forward in itself.
>
> Gj
>
> On Sun, Mar 17, 2019 at 10:41 AM Vano Beridze  wrote:
>
> > Hello,
> >
> > I'm really interested in getting Java EE 8 support in NetBeans.
> > Is there any way I can help in that regard?
> >
> > Vano
> >
> > On Mon, Feb 25, 2019 at 10:36 PM Josh Juneau 
> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Geertjan,
> > >
> > > Thanks for reaching out.  I had made the required changes to j2ee.core
> > and
> > > I've re-built my version of NetBeans, but the "Java EE 8" options are
> > still
> > > not appearing in the drop-down selections.  I've successfully added
> "Java
> > > EE 8 API Library" and "Java EE 8 Web API Library" as selectable
> libraries
> > > within the Ant Library Manager, but still unable to get the integration
> > > within the project dialogs.  I'm working on that and plan to open a PR
> > with
> > > all required changes once I've gotten it to work.
> > >
> > > Thanks and I'll keep the group posted.
> > >
> > > On Mon, Feb 25, 2019 at 9:38 AM Geertjan Wielenga
> > >  wrote:
> > >
> > > > How is it going with this?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > >
> > > > Gj
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, Feb 19, 2019 at 3:30 PM Josh Juneau 
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Excellent, thanks Geertjan!  I'll take a look.  I appreciate your
> > help.
> > > > >
> > > > > On Tue, Feb 19, 2019 at 8:29 AM Geertjan Wielenga
> > > > >  wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > It seems to be in j2ee.core, probably for both.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Gj
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Tue, Feb 19, 2019 at 3:25 PM Geertjan Wielenga <
> > > > > > geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > It will be in two different places, one for Maven projects and
> > one
> > > > for
> > > > > > Ant
> > > > > > > projects.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Gj
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Tue, Feb 19, 2019 at 3:21 PM Josh Juneau <
> juneau...@gmail.com
> > >
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> Of course...will put in the PR.  I would like to first enable
> > the
> > > > > > >> selection
> > > > > > >> of the Java EE 8 Platform when creating a new project.  Once I
> > get
> > > > > that
> > > > > > >> working in my environment then I will put in the PR.
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> Thanks
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> On Tue, Feb 19, 2019 at 8:00 AM Geertjan Wielenga
> > > > > > >>  wrote:
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> > Great. Provide a pull request and we can evaluate it then.
> > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > >> > Gj
> > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > >> > On Tue, 19 Feb 2019 at 14:57, Josh Juneau <
> > juneau.

Re: Java EE 8 API Module for Inclusion with NetBeans

[Vano Beridze]

Hello,

I'm really interested in getting Java EE 8 support in NetBeans.
Is there any way I can help in that regard?

Vano

On Mon, Feb 25, 2019 at 10:36 PM Josh Juneau  wrote:

> Hi Geertjan,
>
> Thanks for reaching out.  I had made the required changes to j2ee.core and
> I've re-built my version of NetBeans, but the "Java EE 8" options are still
> not appearing in the drop-down selections.  I've successfully added "Java
> EE 8 API Library" and "Java EE 8 Web API Library" as selectable libraries
> within the Ant Library Manager, but still unable to get the integration
> within the project dialogs.  I'm working on that and plan to open a PR with
> all required changes once I've gotten it to work.
>
> Thanks and I'll keep the group posted.
>
> On Mon, Feb 25, 2019 at 9:38 AM Geertjan Wielenga
>  wrote:
>
> > How is it going with this?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Gj
> >
> > On Tue, Feb 19, 2019 at 3:30 PM Josh Juneau  wrote:
> >
> > > Excellent, thanks Geertjan!  I'll take a look.  I appreciate your help.
> > >
> > > On Tue, Feb 19, 2019 at 8:29 AM Geertjan Wielenga
> > >  wrote:
> > >
> > > > It seems to be in j2ee.core, probably for both.
> > > >
> > > > Gj
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, Feb 19, 2019 at 3:25 PM Geertjan Wielenga <
> > > > geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > It will be in two different places, one for Maven projects and one
> > for
> > > > Ant
> > > > > projects.
> > > > >
> > > > > Gj
> > > > >
> > > > > On Tue, Feb 19, 2019 at 3:21 PM Josh Juneau 
> > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >> Of course...will put in the PR.  I would like to first enable the
> > > > >> selection
> > > > >> of the Java EE 8 Platform when creating a new project.  Once I get
> > > that
> > > > >> working in my environment then I will put in the PR.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Thanks
> > > > >>
> > > > >> On Tue, Feb 19, 2019 at 8:00 AM Geertjan Wielenga
> > > > >>  wrote:
> > > > >>
> > > > >> > Great. Provide a pull request and we can evaluate it then.
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > Gj
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > On Tue, 19 Feb 2019 at 14:57, Josh Juneau 
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > > Since the Java EE 8 Platform is not currently an available
> > choice
> > > > when
> > > > >> > > creating an Apache NetBeans project, I have put together a
> Java
> > > EE 8
> > > > >> API
> > > > >> > > module for inclusion in Apache NetBeans.  To create the
> module,
> > I
> > > > >> > followed
> > > > >> > > the same structure as the existing javaee7.api module.  At
> this
> > > > time,
> > > > >> the
> > > > >> > > javaee8.api module resides in my GitHub repository.  Since I
> > have
> > > > not
> > > > >> yet
> > > > >> > > added any new features or modules to Apache NetBeans, can
> > someone
> > > > >> point
> > > > >> > me
> > > > >> > > into the correct direction as to the next step towards getting
> > > this
> > > > >> API
> > > > >> > > included with the Apache NetBeans distribution?
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > > https://github.com/juneau001/javaee8.api
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > > I went through the external dependencies and I believe I've
> > gotten
> > > > the
> > > > >> > > licenses correct for each, but those may need to be looked at
> > just
> > > > to
> > > > >> be
> > > > >> > > certain.  I've also not been able to make the "Java EE 8"
> > platform
> > > > >> > > available as a drop-down menu selection for generation of new
> > > Apache
> > > > >> > > NetBeans projects in my development environment.  If this
> module
> > > is
> > > > >> > > included in the Apache NetBeans distro, then someone may need
> to
> > > > help
> > > > >> me
> > > > >> > > out with that as I'm not quite sure what files need to be
> > > registered
> > > > >> in
> > > > >> > > order to make the platform available for use in projects.
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > > Thanks in advance for your assistance and guidance...it is
> > > > >> appreciated.
> > > > >> > > --
> > > > >> > > Josh Juneau
> > > > >> > > juneau...@gmail.com
> > > > >> > > http://jj-blogger.blogspot.com
> > > > >> > > https://www.apress.com/index.php/author/author/view/id/1866
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> --
> > > > >> Josh Juneau
> > > > >> juneau...@gmail.com
> > > > >> http://jj-blogger.blogspot.com
> > > > >> https://www.apress.com/index.php/author/author/view/id/1866
> > > > >>
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > --
> > > Josh Juneau
> > > juneau...@gmail.com
> > > http://jj-blogger.blogspot.com
> > > https://www.apress.com/index.php/author/author/view/id/1866
> > >
> >
> --
> Josh Juneau
> juneau...@gmail.com
> http://jj-blogger.blogspot.com
> https://www.apress.com/index.php/author/author/view/id/1866
>

Re: Which version of JDK should GlassFish be able to support?

[Vano Beridze]

Unfortunately Java EE is behind in terms of JDK support.
One way is to bundle GlassFish with JDK 8 and create a document which
describes the process how to add it to IDE.
BTW what is the minimum requirement for NetBeans 11 on JDK?

On Tue, Feb 26, 2019 at 7:11 PM Geertjan Wielenga
 wrote:

> All great, but the fact remains that a complete newbie will download Apache
> NetBeans 11 and will probably have whatever the latest JDK is, e.g., JDK
> 12, will then put together a 'hello world', will then want to deploy... and
> then discover that an additional JDK is needed, i.e., JDK 8, to start
> GlassFish. I.e., a complete newbie will most likely be required to have two
> different JDKs -- and most likely only discover this when deploying their
> application. Not very nice, all this.
>
> Gj
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 26, 2019 at 3:59 PM Josh Juneau  wrote:
>
> > GlassFish requires a JDK because it does not include one.  One must
> utilize
> > a JDK in order to start up GlassFish server.
> >
> > It sounds like the Maven-based web application is starting up without
> issue
> > because in this case GlassFish must be configured to start under a
> > specified JDK 8 installation (not the one indicated within the NetBeans
> > project).  Therefore, the project is compiling under the specified JDK in
> > NetBeans (in this case JDK11) and deploying the resulting WAR file
> without
> > issue to the GlassFish server that is running under JDK 8.
> >
> > I just compiled a Maven WAR under JDK 12 in NetBeans and deployed to
> > GlassFish 5.1 running on JDK 8.  It seemed to work without issues.
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Feb 26, 2019 at 8:13 AM Geertjan Wielenga
> >  wrote:
> >
> > > OK, nice, in some ways.
> > >
> > > What's a bit unfortunate is that one can't select a JDK in the New
> > Project
> > > wizard for New Web Applications -- whatever JDK is used to start
> NetBeans
> > > is assigned to the newly created Java Web application.
> > >
> > > The above is true for Ant-based projects and Maven-based projects.
> > Somehow,
> > > that's ignored in Maven-based projects, which run without a problem on
> > > GlassFish 5 despite the JDK being JDK 11. So the question comes back to
> > --
> > > what does GlassFish need the JDK for if it can be ignored, apparently,
> > when
> > > a Maven-based Web application is able to start up without a problem
> even
> > > though it has JDK 11 set? When I look in the POM, there's no reference
> to
> > > the JDK, so in the case of Maven projects, it seems relevant to how
> > > NetBeans supports GlassFish or Java EE, and not a requirement for the
> > Maven
> > > project to run on GlassFish.
> > >
> > > Gj
> > >
> > >
> > > On Tue, Feb 26, 2019 at 3:06 PM Josh Juneau 
> wrote:
> > >
> > > > GlassFish 5+ is not currently supported under JDK 9+...that is in the
> > > > works.  I believe the target JDK is for Java SE 11 support.
> > > >
> > > > See this issue in the tracker:
> > > > https://github.com/eclipse-ee4j/glassfish/issues/22130
> > > >
> > > > Therefore, GlassFish 5 requires JDK 8.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, Feb 26, 2019 at 7:59 AM Geertjan Wielenga
> > > >  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > So, not specifically JDK 8, but greater than JDK 8, too? I.e., the
> > > > modular
> > > > > JDK, from JDK 9 onwards, is supported by GlassFish?
> > > > >
> > > > > And what does GlassFish need the JDK for?
> > > > >
> > > > > Gj
> > > > >
> > > > > On Tue, Feb 26, 2019 at 2:57 PM Josh Juneau 
> > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Hi Geertjan,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Java EE 8 requires JDK8+, and therefore GlassFish 5/5.1 require
> JDK
> > > 8+.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hope this helps.  Thanks
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Tue, Feb 26, 2019 at 7:52 AM Geertjan Wielenga
> > > > > >  wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hi all,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > There's quite some functionality in NetBeans related to
> > > Java/Jakarta
> > > > EE
> > > > > > > that assumes that the project is making use of JDK 8.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > In particular, this results in these problems:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-2170
> > > > > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-2126
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > So, the question is, which if any specific version of the JDK
> > does
> > > > the
> > > > > > > latest GlassFish releases require?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > If GlassFish requires JDK 8, then NetBeans is right and users
> > > should
> > > > > > simply
> > > > > > > be told to use JDK 8 with GlassFish. If not, then we need to
> > change
> > > > > > > something in NetBeans to enable GlassFish to work with later
> > JDKs.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I'm assuming some tools or files in the JDK are needed by
> > GlassFish
> > > > or,
> > > > > > at
> > > > > > > least, are needed by GlassFish when run with/from NetBeans.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Gj
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > Josh Juneau
> > > > > > juneau...@gmail.com
> > > > > > 

Re: Which version of JDK should GlassFish be able to support?

[Vano Beridze]

 I created Maven Web Application with Eclipse GlassFish 5.1
IDE is running on JDK 12
When I ran the application NetBeans gave me a popup that Eclipse GlassFish
5.1 could not be started with JDK 12 and allowed me to select JDK 8
platform.

I guess this is the correct behavior.

On Tue, Feb 26, 2019 at 6:12 PM Geertjan Wielenga
 wrote:

> OK, nice, in some ways.
>
> What's a bit unfortunate is that one can't select a JDK in the New Project
> wizard for New Web Applications -- whatever JDK is used to start NetBeans
> is assigned to the newly created Java Web application.
>
> The above is true for Ant-based projects and Maven-based projects. Somehow,
> that's ignored in Maven-based projects, which run without a problem on
> GlassFish 5 despite the JDK being JDK 11. So the question comes back to --
> what does GlassFish need the JDK for if it can be ignored, apparently, when
> a Maven-based Web application is able to start up without a problem even
> though it has JDK 11 set? When I look in the POM, there's no reference to
> the JDK, so in the case of Maven projects, it seems relevant to how
> NetBeans supports GlassFish or Java EE, and not a requirement for the Maven
> project to run on GlassFish.
>
> Gj
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 26, 2019 at 3:06 PM Josh Juneau  wrote:
>
> > GlassFish 5+ is not currently supported under JDK 9+...that is in the
> > works.  I believe the target JDK is for Java SE 11 support.
> >
> > See this issue in the tracker:
> > https://github.com/eclipse-ee4j/glassfish/issues/22130
> >
> > Therefore, GlassFish 5 requires JDK 8.
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Feb 26, 2019 at 7:59 AM Geertjan Wielenga
> >  wrote:
> >
> > > So, not specifically JDK 8, but greater than JDK 8, too? I.e., the
> > modular
> > > JDK, from JDK 9 onwards, is supported by GlassFish?
> > >
> > > And what does GlassFish need the JDK for?
> > >
> > > Gj
> > >
> > > On Tue, Feb 26, 2019 at 2:57 PM Josh Juneau 
> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi Geertjan,
> > > >
> > > > Java EE 8 requires JDK8+, and therefore GlassFish 5/5.1 require JDK
> 8+.
> > > >
> > > > Hope this helps.  Thanks
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, Feb 26, 2019 at 7:52 AM Geertjan Wielenga
> > > >  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hi all,
> > > > >
> > > > > There's quite some functionality in NetBeans related to
> Java/Jakarta
> > EE
> > > > > that assumes that the project is making use of JDK 8.
> > > > >
> > > > > In particular, this results in these problems:
> > > > >
> > > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-2170
> > > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-2126
> > > > >
> > > > > So, the question is, which if any specific version of the JDK does
> > the
> > > > > latest GlassFish releases require?
> > > > >
> > > > > If GlassFish requires JDK 8, then NetBeans is right and users
> should
> > > > simply
> > > > > be told to use JDK 8 with GlassFish. If not, then we need to change
> > > > > something in NetBeans to enable GlassFish to work with later JDKs.
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm assuming some tools or files in the JDK are needed by GlassFish
> > or,
> > > > at
> > > > > least, are needed by GlassFish when run with/from NetBeans.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks,
> > > > >
> > > > > Gj
> > > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Josh Juneau
> > > > juneau...@gmail.com
> > > > http://jj-blogger.blogspot.com
> > > > https://www.apress.com/index.php/author/author/view/id/1866
> > > >
> > >
> > --
> > Josh Juneau
> > juneau...@gmail.com
> > http://jj-blogger.blogspot.com
> > https://www.apress.com/index.php/author/author/view/id/1866
> >
>

Re: Which version of JDK should GlassFish be able to support?

[Vano Beridze]

As far as I know, Glassfish 5 is Java EE 8 compatible, which means it
should require JDK 8 and I don't think it's possible to run Glassfish on
any JDK that is modular (>8)

On Tue, Feb 26, 2019 at 6:04 PM Geertjan Wielenga
 wrote:

> Yes, great. From a NetBeans point of view, it would be simplest if
> GlassFish would require JDK 8, nothing more, nothing less. And then the
> responsibility would be up to the user (and our instructions to the user)
> of Apache NetBeans to ensure that the correct JDK is selected.
>
> I.e., though Apache NetBeans can run on JDK 8, 9, 10, 11, and 12 (when
> Apache NetBeans 11 is released), GlassFish would then, if the above is
> true, require JDK 8 -- which would mean that a user of GlassFish and
> NetBeans would need two different JDKs, unless they decide to use JDK 8
> both for NetBeans and GlassFish.
>
> Gj
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 26, 2019 at 3:00 PM Josh Juneau  wrote:
>
> > A quick follow-up...I am not sure that GlassFish can run under JDK 12 (or
> > anything after JDK 8 for that matter)...but it does require JDK8.  Let me
> > look into the most recent version of the JDK that it will run against.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > On Tue, Feb 26, 2019 at 7:57 AM Josh Juneau  wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Geertjan,
> > >
> > > Java EE 8 requires JDK8+, and therefore GlassFish 5/5.1 require JDK 8+.
> > >
> > > Hope this helps.  Thanks
> > >
> > > On Tue, Feb 26, 2019 at 7:52 AM Geertjan Wielenga
> > >  wrote:
> > >
> > >> Hi all,
> > >>
> > >> There's quite some functionality in NetBeans related to Java/Jakarta
> EE
> > >> that assumes that the project is making use of JDK 8.
> > >>
> > >> In particular, this results in these problems:
> > >>
> > >> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-2170
> > >> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-2126
> > >>
> > >> So, the question is, which if any specific version of the JDK does the
> > >> latest GlassFish releases require?
> > >>
> > >> If GlassFish requires JDK 8, then NetBeans is right and users should
> > >> simply
> > >> be told to use JDK 8 with GlassFish. If not, then we need to change
> > >> something in NetBeans to enable GlassFish to work with later JDKs.
> > >>
> > >> I'm assuming some tools or files in the JDK are needed by GlassFish
> or,
> > at
> > >> least, are needed by GlassFish when run with/from NetBeans.
> > >>
> > >> Thanks,
> > >>
> > >> Gj
> > >>
> > > --
> > > Josh Juneau
> > > juneau...@gmail.com
> > > http://jj-blogger.blogspot.com
> > > https://www.apress.com/index.php/author/author/view/id/1866
> > >
> > > --
> > Josh Juneau
> > juneau...@gmail.com
> > http://jj-blogger.blogspot.com
> > https://www.apress.com/index.php/author/author/view/id/1866
> >
>

Re: [VOTE] Apache NetBeans Version Number: 11

[Vano Beridze]

0

On Sat, Jan 26, 2019 at 11:29 AM Tomas Poledny  wrote:

> 0
>
> On Sat, Jan 26, 2019, 04:52 Laszlo Kishalmi  wrote:
>
> > 0
> >
> > On 1/25/19 7:50 PM, Laszlo Kishalmi wrote:
> > >
> > > Dear all,
> > >
> > > Well, it is time to finalize out version scheme for a while. There
> > > will be three voting threads created on this topic with subjects:
> > >
> > >   * [VOTE] Apache NetBeans Version Number: 11
> > >   * [VOTE] Apache NetBeans Version Number: 11.0
> > >   * [VOTE] Apache NetBeans Version Number: 2019.03
> > >
> > > Everyone from the community can cast his/her own vote  on each thread
> as:
> > >
> > > +1  I like it, let's do this way
> > > 0I'm Ok with it, does not particularly like it, but won't mind it
> > > -1   I do not like it at all.
> > >
> > > Each thread is going to be open for 72+ hours and going to be closed
> > > at the same time. Regardless from the number of votes, that version
> > > number would win which has the greatest sum of the vote values.
> > >
> > > Voting is a community event! Be a proud community member and cast your
> > > vote!
> > >
> > > Thank you!
> > >
> > > Laszlo Kishalmi
> > >
> > > Volunteer Release Manager of Apache NetBeans 11
> > >
> > > P.S.: Please keep this thread for voting only!
> > >
> >
>

Re: [VOTE] Apache NetBeans Version Number: 2019.03

[Vano Beridze]

-1

On Sat, Jan 26, 2019 at 11:25 AM Mario Schroeder 
wrote:

> -1
>
> Am Sa., 26. Jan. 2019, 08:20 hat Tomas Poledny 
> geschrieben:
>
> > -1
> >
> > On Sat, Jan 26, 2019, 04:51 Laszlo Kishalmi  > wrote:
> >
> > > +1
> > >
> > > On 1/25/19 7:51 PM, Laszlo Kishalmi wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Dear all,
> > > >
> > > > Well, it is time to finalize out version scheme for a while. There
> > > > will be three voting threads created on this topic with subjects:
> > > >
> > > >   * [VOTE] Apache NetBeans Version Number: 11
> > > >   * [VOTE] Apache NetBeans Version Number: 11.0
> > > >   * [VOTE] Apache NetBeans Version Number: 2019.03
> > > >
> > > > Everyone from the community can cast his/her own vote  on each thread
> > as:
> > > >
> > > > +1  I like it, let's do this way
> > > > 0I'm Ok with it, does not particularly like it, but won't mind it
> > > > -1   I do not like it at all.
> > > >
> > > > Each thread is going to be open for 72+ hours and going to be closed
> > > > at the same time. Regardless from the number of votes, that version
> > > > number would win which has the greatest sum of the vote values.
> > > >
> > > > Voting is a community event! Be  a proud community member and cast
> > > > your vote!
> > > >
> > > > Thank you!
> > > >
> > > > Laszlo Kishalmi
> > > >
> > > > Volunteer Release Manager of Apache NetBeans 2019.03
> > > >
> > > > P.S.: Please keep this thread for voting only!
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

Re: [VOTE] Apache NetBeans Version Number: 11.0

[Vano Beridze]

+1

On Sat, Jan 26, 2019, 7:51 AM Laszlo Kishalmi  Dear all,
>
> Well, it is time to finalize out version scheme for a while. There will
> be three voting threads created on this topic with subjects:
>
>   * [VOTE] Apache NetBeans Version Number: 11
>   * [VOTE] Apache NetBeans Version Number: 11.0
>   * [VOTE] Apache NetBeans Version Number: 2019.03
>
> Everyone from the community can cast his/her own vote  on each thread as:
>
> +1  I like it, let's do this way
> 0I'm Ok with it, does not particularly like it, but won't mind it
> -1   I do not like it at all.
>
> Each thread is going to be open for 72+ hours and going to be closed at
> the same time. Regardless from the number of votes, that version number
> would win which has the greatest sum of the vote values.
>
> Voting is a community event! Be a proud community member and cast your
> vote!
>
> Thank you!
>
> Laszlo Kishalmi
>
> Volunteer Release Manager of Apache NetBeans 11.0
>
> P.S.: Please keep this thread for voting only!
>
>

Re: Apache NetBeans 11 or 11.0 ?

[Vano Beridze]

11 patch 1,2,...?

On Thu, Jan 24, 2019, 10:42 AM Laszlo Kishalmi  Well, probably it is the right time to decide: 11 or 11.0 ?
>
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>

Re: [DISCUSS] NetBeans 11.0 Release Schedule

[Vano Beridze]

I'm looking forward to get my hands on NetBeans with full Java/Jakarta EE 8
support, which 8.2 failed to accomplish.

BTW what will be the minimum required version of JDK for running NetBeans
11?

BR,
Vano Beridze

On Sun, Jan 6, 2019, 2:38 PM Geertjan Wielenga
 Also, in parallel to the process that you're starting, Laszlo, I will work
> on the process to move NetBeans to be a top level project -- which, if we
> complete it soon enough, will mean we will not have an IPMC vote since we
> will not be in the incubator any longer.
>
> Gj
>
> On Sun, Jan 6, 2019 at 11:36 AM Geertjan Wielenga <
> geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>
> > Excellent, thanks for that schedule.
> >
> > I believe we should see the following as the drivers (i.e., the P1s) of
> > this release:
> >
> > 1. JDK 12 support
> > 2. Integration of the enterprise cluster
> >
> > The above is in line with the roadmap proposal:
> >
> >
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Apache+NetBeans+Release+Roadmap
> >
> > Integration of the enterprise cluster should start with including the
> > enterprise cluster into the build process, I think?
> >
> > Gj
> >
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Jan 6, 2019 at 9:14 AM Laszlo Kishalmi <
> laszlo.kisha...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Dear all,
> >>
> >> We've made some bold plans, back at November, releasing NetBeans 11.0
> >> (or 11 we really shall decide this BTW) in March 2019
> >>
> >>
> >>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Apache+NetBeans+Release+Roadmap
> >>
> >> If we would like to keep ourselves to that commitment, we had our little
> >> time to celebrate, but we need to move on and prepare for the next
> round.
> >>
> >> Let's assume that we plan with a late March release 28th on week 13th,
> >> I've put together a release schedule to have something to discuss on:
> >>
> >> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Apache+NetBeans+11
> >>
> >> I guess we are going to work with a 6 weeks NetCat cycle, so it should
> >> start around the 6th week. I'd be happy if someone who knows NetCat more
> >> could fill out the table.
> >>
> >> Thank you in advance!
> >>
> >> Laszlo Kishalmi
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> -
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> >> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
>

Re: NetBeans - the UI for Maven

[Vano Beridze]

Great idea.

On Sat, Nov 24, 2018, 11:53 AM Jaroslav Tulach  Hi guys,
> the Apache NetBeans release 10 is (almost) finished and ready for
> download.
> Time to look forward: Long live Apache NetBeans - the UI for Apache Maven!
>
> NetBeans is known for its excellent Maven support. Time to bring it to new
> level - time to lead all NetBeans newbies directly into Maven hands:
>
> Whenever one creates new Java project from scratch a Maven project should
> be
> created.
>
> Currently the default project type is Ant based, but as Jesse Glick (the
> author of the Ant based projects integration) once asked: "Is anybody
> still
> using that!?" That is the question! Newcomers use it, but otherwise it is
> useless dead end road. Starting new Ant based project in a year 2018 is a
> nonsence!
>
> The current duality of Ant/Maven project support also wastes precious
> NetBeans
> development resources - features are usually implemented for Ant based
> projects first and only then ported to Maven. That's misfocused and upside
> down.
>
> Let's make the switch and offer Maven projects by default. Maven is well
> suited for the task: it is standard, well adopted build system. Maven
> comes
> with project archetypes that will serve as great starting templates for
> our
> newly generated project.
>
> What will change? Not the code, but the presentation: When one invokes
> "New
> Project" in NetBeans 11, there should be:
>
> Java:
>   - Java Application
>   - Java Frontend Application
>   - Project from Archetype
>   - POM Project
>   - NetBeans Application
>
> Ant(ic)/Java:
>   - Java Free-Form Project
>   - Java Modular Project
>   - Java Project with Existing Sources
>   - Java Class Library
>   - Java Application
>
> Ant(ic)/JavaFX:
>   - JavaFX Application
>   - JavaFX Preloader
>   - JavaFX FXML Application
>   - JavaFX in Swing Application
>   - JavaFX Project with Existing Sources
>
> Ant(ic)/NetBeans Modules:
>   - Module
>   - Module Suite
>   - Library Wrapper Module
>   - NetBeans Platform Application
>
> PHP:
>   // unchanged
>
> HTML5/JavaScript:
>   // unchanged
>
>
> The "Java" category will offer only Maven based projects. I hope this
> change
> will be welcomed by NetBeans as well as Maven supporters and will help
> Apache
> NetBeans to move forward and focus on support of technology that matters!
>
> Best regards and thanks in advance for your support.
> Jaroslav Tulach
> NetBeans founder & initial architect
>
>
>
>
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>

Re: NetBeans 10.0 has been branched!

[Vano Beridze]

Will it run on JDK 11?

On Mon, Oct 1, 2018, 09:28 László Kishalmi 
wrote:

> Java 8.
>
> On Sun, Sep 30, 2018, 22:22 Vano Beridze  wrote:
>
> > Hello,
> >
> > What will be the minimum JDK version NetBeans 10 will run on?
> >
> > Kind regards,
> > Vano
> >
> > On Mon, Oct 1, 2018 at 8:21 AM Laszlo Kishalmi <
> laszlo.kisha...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Dear all,
> > >
> > > I'm happy to announce that our release 10 has been branched from master
> > > on 21:00 PST.
> > >
> > > I've went through the list of open issues with PR-s and open PRs. We
> are
> > > in a pretty good shape now.
> > >
> > > I've found the following PRs might be considering into release100 by
> > > cherry picking:
> > >
> > >   * NETBEANS-1227 <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-1227
> >
> > > Mark Windows launcher binary as per-monitor DPI aware
> > >   * NETBEANS-49 <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-49>
> > > Please add smooth scrolling
> > >   * NETBEANS-1238 <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-1238
> >
> > > HiDPI icons in tabcontrol and openide.awt modules for Windows LAF
> > >   * NETBEANS-1260 <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-1260
> >
> > > HiDPI icons in tabcontrol and openide.awt modules for Aqua (MacOS)
> > LAF
> > >   * NETBEANS-602 <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-602>
> > > Wrong module name detected with multi-release JAR
> > >   * NETBEANS-804 <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-804>
> > > Update any dependent code for JDK11 Class-file format change
> > >   * NETBEANS-1252 <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-1252
> >
> > > shifted cursor in output window when selecting text with
> GDK_SCALE=2
> > >
> > > I've created https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-1321 in
> > > order to track the release work.
> > >
> > > I'm about to clean up the code and create the first voting candidate
> > > tomorrow 1st of Oct 2018.
> > >
> > > Also try to look on this:
> > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-1197 as its PR has a
> good
> > > discussion onpossible critical issues for the release:
> > > https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans/pull/854
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>

Re: NetBeans 10.0 has been branched!

[Vano Beridze]

Hello,

What will be the minimum JDK version NetBeans 10 will run on?

Kind regards,
Vano

On Mon, Oct 1, 2018 at 8:21 AM Laszlo Kishalmi 
wrote:

> Dear all,
>
> I'm happy to announce that our release 10 has been branched from master
> on 21:00 PST.
>
> I've went through the list of open issues with PR-s and open PRs. We are
> in a pretty good shape now.
>
> I've found the following PRs might be considering into release100 by
> cherry picking:
>
>   * NETBEANS-1227 
> Mark Windows launcher binary as per-monitor DPI aware
>   * NETBEANS-49 
> Please add smooth scrolling
>   * NETBEANS-1238 
> HiDPI icons in tabcontrol and openide.awt modules for Windows LAF
>   * NETBEANS-1260 
> HiDPI icons in tabcontrol and openide.awt modules for Aqua (MacOS) LAF
>   * NETBEANS-602 
> Wrong module name detected with multi-release JAR
>   * NETBEANS-804 
> Update any dependent code for JDK11 Class-file format change
>   * NETBEANS-1252 
> shifted cursor in output window when selecting text with GDK_SCALE=2
>
> I've created https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-1321 in
> order to track the release work.
>
> I'm about to clean up the code and create the first voting candidate
> tomorrow 1st of Oct 2018.
>
> Also try to look on this:
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-1197 as its PR has a good
> discussion onpossible critical issues for the release:
> https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans/pull/854
>
>
>

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache NetBeans 9.0 (incubating) [vote candidate 3]

[Vano Beridze]

Windows 10 64 bit
JDK 8u171 64 bit
Downloaded, built, ran fine

On Sun, Jul 8, 2018 at 1:40 PM Emilian Bold
 wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> Please vote on releasing Apache NetBeans 9.0 (incubating)!
>
> If this voting candidate passes, another similar voting will be started on
> gene...@incubator.apache.org, and if that passes too, then we can release
> this version. This build will also undergo validation through NetCAT.
>
> Apache NetBeans 9.0 (incubating) constitutes all the modules in the Apache
> NetBeans Git repo, which together provide the NetBeans Platform (i.e., the
> underlying application framework), as well as all the modules that provide
> the Java SE-related features of Apache NetBeans.
>
> In short, Apache NetBeans 9.0 (incubating) is a full IDE for Java SE
> development.
>
> Build artifacts available here:
>
>
> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/netbeans/incubating-netbeans-java/incubating-9.0-vc3
>
> The specific artifact to be voted on:
>
>
> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/netbeans/incubating-netbeans-java/incubating-9.0-vc3/incubating-netbeans-java-9.0-source.zip
>
> Included in the above are the DEPENDENCIES, DISCLAIMER, LICENSE, and
> NOTICE files, as well as a README file with build instructions, which are
> the same as these:
>
>
> https://gitbox.apache.org/repos/asf?p=incubator-netbeans.git;a=blob_plain;f=README.md;h=eccd3c6cc707ba9ca219bcfb72979435d85f5f7a;hb=97904961e496383d6150aef9b78fa8dff8f3e1ce
>
> SHA1: ed2098c173460ec81f05635055066da06a7ea82b
>
> KEYS file:
>
> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/incubator/netbeans/KEYS
>
> Apache NetBeans Git Repo tag: 9.0-vc3 :
>
>
> https://gitbox.apache.org/repos/asf?p=incubator-netbeans.git;a=tag;h=refs/tags/9.0-vc3
>
> Note: NetBeans license violation checks are managed via the
> rat-exclusions.txt file:
>
>
> https://gitbox.apache.org/repos/asf?p=incubator-netbeans.git;a=blob;f=nbbuild/rat-exclusions.txt;h=36cb8a3eae40bd7fc41c63c6055bce42f7916859;hb=97904961e496383d6150aef9b78fa8dff8f3e1ce
>
> Rat report shows no unknown licenses, except for license files:
>
>
> https://builds.apache.org/job/incubator-netbeans-release/334/artifact/rat-java-temp/nbbuild/build/rat-report.txt
>
> Included as a convenience binary, not relevant for the voting purposes
> (unzip it, run it and you'll see Apache NetBeans):
>
>
> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/netbeans/incubating-netbeans-java/incubating-9.0-vc3/incubating-netbeans-java-9.0-bin.zip
>
> Also included as a convenience binary the NBMs:
>
>
> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/netbeans/incubating-netbeans-java/incubating-9.0-vc3/nbms
>
> New & Noteworthy features of the 9.0 Release:
>
>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Apache+NetBeans+9.0+New+and+Noteworthy
>
> Release specific wiki page:
>
>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Apache+NetBeans+9.0+Final+Release
>
> How (and what) to try out the release:
>
> 1. Download the artifact to be voted on and unzip it.
> 2. Verify the cryptographic signatures, the NOTICE and LICENSE file
> 3. Build it using the README provided by the artifact.
> 4. Look in nbbuild/netbeans for the NetBeans installation created by the
> build process.
> 5. Run the NetBeans executable and (if you're running on JDK 8) you'll be
> prompted to install nb-javac, after agreeing to its licensing terms, and
> (if you're running on JDK 9), you'll be able to use javac directly from JDK
> 9 and, optionally, you'll be prompted to install nb-javac, after agreeing
> to its licensing terms.
>
> If the above succeeds, i.e., Apache NetBeans installs and starts up vote
> +1 in this thread.
>
> Note that according to
> http://www.apache.org/legal/release-policy.html#release-approval :
>
> > Before casting +1 binding votes, individuals are REQUIRED to download all
> > signed source code packages onto their own hardware, verify that they
> meet
> > all requirements of ASF policy on releases as described below, validate
> all
> > cryptographic signatures, compile as provided, and test the result on
> their
> > own platform.
>
> Please try out the package, using the instructions above, and vote!
>
> The vote is open for a minimum of 72 hours or until the necessary number
> of votes (3 binding +1s) is reached.
>
> [ ] +1 Release this package as Apache NetBeans 9.0 (incubating)
> [ ] 0 I don't feel strongly about it, but I'm okay with the release
> [ ] -1 Do not release this package because...
>
> Please add "(binding)" if your vote is binding, i.e., you are an Apache
> NetBeans PPMC member, i.e., your name is on this page:
> http://home.apache.org/committers-by-project.html#netbeans , although
> note the only real binding votes in the incubator are those of the IPMC,
> i.e., in the next vote thread, after this one passes.
>
> Emilian Bold
> on behalf of the Apache NetBeans PPMC
>
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Re: 2nd Oracle donation of NetBeans to Apache is complete

[Vano Beridze]

Can't wait to test NetBeans 9.next with Java EE

On Thu, Jun 21, 2018, 16:19 Josh Juneau  wrote:

> Excellent news, thanks for the update!  Great work!
>
> On Thu, Jun 21, 2018 at 5:35 AM Geertjan Wielenga
>  wrote:
>
> > Hi all,
> >
> > Great news -- the process of completing the 2nd donation is now done --
> > Oracle has made available a ZIP file constituting the 2nd donation.
> Oracle
> > donated around 4,000,000 lines of code in the 1st donation last year and
> > has now completed the 2nd donation constituting around 1,500,000 lines of
> > code. This donation constitutes the modules of NetBeans dealing with
> > enterprise Java, JavaScript, PHP, Groovy, as well as miscellaneous
> features
> > applicable to Mobile and Web development.
> >
> > We will continue to wrap up the final release of Apache NetBeans
> > (incubating) 9.0, which will be focused on Java SE only. After that, or
> at
> > least separate from that process, we will start relicensing the new code,
> > i.e., from the 2nd donation, once it is in Apache NetBeans Git. Right
> now,
> > it is a ZIP file, it needs to be moved to Apache NetBeans Git, and we
> need
> > to do that in the right way, and figure out what the right way is.
> >
> > Thanks -- and this is a significant step forward in the transition of
> > NetBeans from Oracle to Apache.
> >
> > Gj
> >
> --
> Josh Juneau
> juneau...@gmail.com
> http://jj-blogger.blogspot.com
> https://www.apress.com/index.php/author/author/view/id/1866
>

Re: [VOTE] Apache NetBeans Logo (NETBEANS-145)

[Vano Beridze]

Logo ID = 1

On Fri, Mar 2, 2018 at 10:04 AM Arunava Sinha 
wrote:

> Logo ID 2 : +1
>
> Regards,
>
> Arunava Sinha
>
>
> On 3/1/2018 6:02 PM, Antonio wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > For popular demand let's vote about the NetBeans Logo in the mailing
> > list, that's easier for everybody, right? This will close NETBEANS-145
> > [1].
> >
> > The received entries are at [2].
> >
> > Please state the icon identifer you vote for (only icons count, do not
> > pay attention to typography).
> >
> > Thanks all,
> > Antonio
> >
> >
> > [1]
> >
> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__issues.apache.org_jira_browse_NETBEANS-2D145=DwICaQ=RoP1YumCXCgaWHvlZYR8PZh8Bv7qIrMUB65eapI_JnE=0iEQnHhKGriSNkCA1-Ki6rDkb-drwubOsNfMCo_m5Ck=3gtPcwaHMieSw_evxQHfnBWfxxNqS0zj7tAbXmDroMc=1-70jyrgnelVpOgDVmnhL2QxtycmFf61Y4hoDu6BSG8=
> >
> >
> > [2]
> >
> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__cwiki.apache.org_confluence_display_NETBEANS_Apache-2BNetBeans-2BLogo-2BContest=DwICaQ=RoP1YumCXCgaWHvlZYR8PZh8Bv7qIrMUB65eapI_JnE=0iEQnHhKGriSNkCA1-Ki6rDkb-drwubOsNfMCo_m5Ck=3gtPcwaHMieSw_evxQHfnBWfxxNqS0zj7tAbXmDroMc=fIUsIm8sOXn1Kow9fbC1kq9-SJdjr1pMO47QDEatXc4=
> >
> >
> >  Forwarded Message 
> > Subject: Re: [ANN] Closing the NetBeans Logo Contest
> > Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2018 12:23:50 +
> > From: John McDonnell 
> > Reply-To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> > To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> >
> > We should create a vote thread here, or on users.  This is consistent
> > with
> > normal apache votes.  All it needs is a link to the confluence page to
> > show
> > the images and their option numbers.
> >
> > It avoids everyone having to have edit writes on the confluence just
> > for a
> > vote.
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > John
> >
> >
> >
> > On 1 March 2018 at 12:21, John Kostaras  wrote:
> >
> >> It's not clear where do we have to add our vote: in confluence
> >> <
> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__cwiki.apache.org_confluence_display_NETBEANS_=DwICaQ=RoP1YumCXCgaWHvlZYR8PZh8Bv7qIrMUB65eapI_JnE=0iEQnHhKGriSNkCA1-Ki6rDkb-drwubOsNfMCo_m5Ck=3gtPcwaHMieSw_evxQHfnBWfxxNqS0zj7tAbXmDroMc=Dc6CPS4iEnwfI2W76sYGbJMwyDHGVAHKpY2GOkxdIkc=
> >>
> >> Apache+NetBeans+Logo+Contest>or
> >> in jira
> >> <
> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__issues.apache.org_jira_browse_NETBEANS-2D145=DwICaQ=RoP1YumCXCgaWHvlZYR8PZh8Bv7qIrMUB65eapI_JnE=0iEQnHhKGriSNkCA1-Ki6rDkb-drwubOsNfMCo_m5Ck=3gtPcwaHMieSw_evxQHfnBWfxxNqS0zj7tAbXmDroMc=1-70jyrgnelVpOgDVmnhL2QxtycmFf61Y4hoDu6BSG8=
> >?
> >>
> >> I vote for option 2, too.
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >>
> >> John.
> >>
> >> On 1 March 2018 at 13:16, Neil C Smith  wrote:
> >>
> >> > On Thu, 1 Mar 2018 at 12:08 Peter Steele 
> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > That means you need to have an account that is approved for
> >> editting.
> >> > >
> >> >
> >> > Good catch!  Do we really want to restrict voting to wiki editors?
> >> Or to
> >> > dev@?  Or to users@?
> >> >
> >> > Personally, I'm in favour of at least having a thread on here
> >> specifically
> >> > for voting, if not one at users@ too.
> >> >
> >> > Best wishes,
> >> >
> >> > Neil
> >> > --
> >> > Neil C Smith
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> >> > www.neilcsmith.net
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[Vano Beridze]

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[Vano Beridze]

Hello,

I've been using NetBeans since 2001, participated in several NetCAT events,
contributed NetBeans welcome page translation in Georgian.

I would like to contribute to the success of my favorite IDE.

Please grant me the permission to edit Wiki (https://cwiki.apache.org/)

Kind regards,
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