Re: Status of Apache NetBeans process

2017-02-20 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
Christian Lenz wrote: >> >>>>>>>> Really? Beacuse of security issues? Millions or more websites >> >> using a >> >>>>>>> server side language, doesn't matter which one, PHP, Node or >> >> whatever. >> &g

Re: Status of Apache NetBeans process

2017-02-20 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
e there are often problems but come one, we should care about > to > >>>>> have > >>>>>>> mechanism to prevent worst case scenarios. For example for the > >> plugin > >>>>>>> center, > >>>>>>>> we need REST services and sure you can w

Re: Status of Apache NetBeans process

2017-02-15 Thread Wade Chandler
sounds that we will not have a plugin center anymore and I >> think >>>>>>> this is not an option. >>>>>>>> PHP is not unsecure in general. I depents on what you use, how do >> you >>>>>>> write your code and how the server looks l

Re: Aw: Re: Re: Status of Apache NetBeans process

2017-02-15 Thread Sven Reimers
do > you > >>> >> write your code and how the server looks like. > >>> >>> Sry for the words but this is really not a reason. Maybe you are > >>> against > >>> >> PHP ok fine, we can use whatever we want on the server side. The > >&

Re: Aw: Re: Re: Status of Apache NetBeans process

2017-02-15 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
will give you some basic CMS stuff, to >>> don't >>> >> write it by your own but without the fullstack stuff from WordPress or >>> >> Joomla or whatever. >>> >>> >>> >> >>> >> I don't set policy, I merely

Re: Aw: Re: Re: Status of Apache NetBeans process

2017-02-15 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
>> >> Joomla or whatever. >> >>> >> >> >> >> I don't set policy, I merely relay it :) >> >> But let's not conflate the entire Netbeans service with the project web >> >> site. >> >> >> >> If

Re: Aw: Re: Re: Status of Apache NetBeans process

2017-02-15 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
;> site. > >> > >> If there is a need for a REST/whatever service, we can provision a > >> machine for that specifically. It will just not be called > >> netbeans.apache.org or netbeans.org - those are reserved for static > >> content only. > >

Aw: Re: Re: Re: Status of Apache NetBeans process

2017-02-15 Thread Christian Lenz
che.org > Betreff: Re: Aw: Re: Re: Status of Apache NetBeans process > > On 02/15/2017 01:37 PM, Geertjan Wielenga wrote: > > The Plugin Portal will be outside of Apache, please let's keep focus in > > this discussion on the website. We have hundreds of tutorials in HTML th

Re: Aw: Re: Re: Status of Apache NetBeans process

2017-02-15 Thread Raphael Bircher
g or netbeans.org - those are reserved for static content only. > > Regards > > Chris > >> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 15. Februar 2017 um 13:23 Uhr >> Von: "Daniel Gruno" >> An: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org >> Betreff: Re: Aw: Re: Status of Apache Net

Re: Aw: Re: Re: Status of Apache NetBeans process

2017-02-15 Thread Daniel Gruno
just not be called >> netbeans.apache.org or netbeans.org - those are reserved for static >> content only. >> >>> >>> Regards >>> >>> Chris >>> >>>> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 15. Februar 2017 um 13:23 Uhr >>>> Von: "Daniel Gruno&

Re: Aw: Re: Re: Status of Apache NetBeans process

2017-02-15 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
> content only. > > > > > Regards > > > > Chris > > > >> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 15. Februar 2017 um 13:23 Uhr > >> Von: "Daniel Gruno" > >> An: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org > >> Betreff: Re: Aw: Re: Status o

Aw: Re: Re: Re: Status of Apache NetBeans process

2017-02-15 Thread Christian Lenz
Ok I understand. > Gesendet: Mittwoch, 15. Februar 2017 um 13:34 Uhr > Von: "Daniel Gruno" > An: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org > Betreff: Re: Aw: Re: Re: Status of Apache NetBeans process > > On 02/15/2017 01:31 PM, Christian Lenz wrote: > > Really? Beacu

Re: Aw: Re: Re: Status of Apache NetBeans process

2017-02-15 Thread Daniel Gruno
gt;> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 15. Februar 2017 um 13:23 Uhr >> Von: "Daniel Gruno" >> An: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org >> Betreff: Re: Aw: Re: Status of Apache NetBeans process >> >> On 02/15/2017 01:17 PM, Christian Lenz wrote: >>> The thing is, with a Backen

Re: Aw: Re: Status of Apache NetBeans process

2017-02-15 Thread Neil C Smith
On 15 February 2017 at 12:23, Daniel Gruno wrote: > If you want to write in markdown, get a static site generator like > pelican to convert it to html, and we can have a buildbot job > automatically rebuild the site when something changes. That's how most > projects do things. *There should be no

Aw: Re: Re: Status of Apache NetBeans process

2017-02-15 Thread Christian Lenz
ithout the fullstack stuff from WordPress or Joomla or whatever. Regards Chris > Gesendet: Mittwoch, 15. Februar 2017 um 13:23 Uhr > Von: "Daniel Gruno" > An: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org > Betreff: Re: Aw: Re: Status of Apache NetBeans process > > On 02/

Re: Aw: Re: Status of Apache NetBeans process

2017-02-15 Thread Daniel Gruno
t is the best to have html files, but we have to > use only the content. The wrapper around should be similiar to the new style > and not to the old one. > > >> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 15. Februar 2017 um 12:29 Uhr >> Von: "Geertjan Wielenga" >> An: dev@ne

Re: Re: Status of Apache NetBeans process

2017-02-15 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
15. Februar 2017 um 12:29 Uhr >> > Von: "Geertjan Wielenga" >> > An: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org >> > Betreff: Re: Aw: Status of Apache NetBeans process >> > >> > I think the solution we should use should be one where we can simply >

Re: Re: Status of Apache NetBeans process

2017-02-15 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
e new > style and not to the old one. > > > > Gesendet: Mittwoch, 15. Februar 2017 um 12:29 Uhr > > Von: "Geertjan Wielenga" > > An: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org > > Betreff: Re: Aw: Status of Apache NetBeans process > > > > I think the

Aw: Re: Status of Apache NetBeans process

2017-02-15 Thread Christian Lenz
html files, but we have to use only the content. The wrapper around should be similiar to the new style and not to the old one. > Gesendet: Mittwoch, 15. Februar 2017 um 12:29 Uhr > Von: "Geertjan Wielenga" > An: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org > Betreff: Re: Aw: Sta

Re: Aw: Status of Apache NetBeans process

2017-02-15 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
I think the solution we should use should be one where we can simply copy and paste existing HTML-based tutorials and other documents from netbeans.org to netbeans.apache.org. If we were to have to spend time converting HTML documents to some variant of markdown, we'll be busy a very long time ind

Re: Aw: Status of Apache NetBeans process

2017-02-14 Thread Daniel Gruno
On 02/14/2017 07:09 PM, Peter Hansson wrote: > > >> I think you're on the same page here. PicoCMS is, as I understand it, a >> basic flat-file static site generator. pages would be stored in git or >> svn and built by a buildbot on change. > > > > I'm not sure that wording is correct. PicoCMS

Re: Aw: Status of Apache NetBeans process

2017-02-14 Thread Peter Hansson
> I think you're on the same page here. PicoCMS is, as I understand it, a > basic flat-file static site generator. pages would be stored in git or > svn and built by a buildbot on change. I'm not sure that wording is correct. PicoCMS requires a PHP enabled server. It builds content on-the-fl

Aw: Re: Status of Apache NetBeans process

2017-02-13 Thread Christian Lenz
ans.incubator.apache.org > Betreff: Re: Aw: Status of Apache NetBeans process > > On 02/13/2017 03:23 PM, Jaroslav Tulach wrote: > > > > Dne 13. 2. 2017 15:19 Christian Lenz napsal(a): > >> > >> I'm also planning to convert the page to a CMS which is v

Re: Aw: Status of Apache NetBeans process

2017-02-13 Thread Daniel Gruno
; Chris >> >>> Gesendet: Montag, 13. Februar 2017 um 15:05 Uhr >>> Von: "Geertjan Wielenga" >>> An: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org >>> Betreff: Status of Apache NetBeans process >>> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> We had another meeting

Re: Aw: Status of Apache NetBeans process

2017-02-13 Thread Jaroslav Tulach
tag, 13. Februar 2017 um 15:05 Uhr > > Von: "Geertjan Wielenga" > > An: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org > > Betreff: Status of Apache NetBeans process > > > > Hi all, > > > > We had another meeting today (we now have a cadence whereby we

Aw: Re: Status of Apache NetBeans process

2017-02-13 Thread Christian Lenz
pache.org > Betreff: Re: Status of Apache NetBeans process > > Excellent. > > In terms of how the tutorial pages will look, let's try to keep everything > as similar as possible to how things are right now, to enable easy > migration. > > But, the main thing rig

Aw: Status of Apache NetBeans process

2017-02-13 Thread Christian Lenz
for files/pages. Only for the plugin center, which will be created with OracleJET. Cheers Chris > Gesendet: Montag, 13. Februar 2017 um 15:05 Uhr > Von: "Geertjan Wielenga" > An: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org > Betreff: Status of Apache NetBeans process > > Hi all

Re: Status of Apache NetBeans process

2017-02-13 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
spaces for the outside, no right? > > > > Cheers > > Chris > > > Gesendet: Montag, 13. Februar 2017 um 15:05 Uhr > > Von: "Geertjan Wielenga" > > An: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org > > Betreff: Status of Apache NetBeans process > > > &g

Aw: Status of Apache NetBeans process

2017-02-13 Thread Christian Lenz
an Wielenga" > An: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org > Betreff: Status of Apache NetBeans process > > Hi all, > > We had another meeting today (we now have a cadence whereby we meet every > Monday afternoon, 'we' being myself, Jaroslav Tulach, and others from > O

Status of Apache NetBeans process

2017-02-13 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
Hi all, We had another meeting today (we now have a cadence whereby we meet every Monday afternoon, 'we' being myself, Jaroslav Tulach, and others from Oracle who are systematically going through all the repositories we will be donating to ensure we're able to donate that which we want to donate).