Re: [DISCUSS] Idea for visual access control policy application

2017-01-20 Thread Scott Aslan
I like the concept although I agree with Rob Moran that this UX may not necessarily belong on the canvas. Rather, it could be a separate UX targeted at an admin type user. Maybe the admin would be able to drag/drop into the zones and 'configure' NiFi on a per user/group basis and then when a partic

Re: [DISCUSS] Idea for visual access control policy application

2017-01-19 Thread Russell Bateman
Telescopic then that there might be flow one has no access to see as well as other flow one can see but not change? Then do we have flow to which one can add, but not subtract, etc.? Can one detach from a protected flow? Can one stop/start protected flows? If a protected flow cannot be stopped,

Re: [DISCUSS] Idea for visual access control policy application

2017-01-19 Thread Rob Moran
If I'm understanding how this security zone concept would work, I think making decisions about the placement of components on the canvas according to authorization would introduce a lot of confusion around understanding the data flow itself and how it is supposed to work. To me a big part of acces

Re: [DISCUSS] Idea for visual access control policy application

2017-01-19 Thread Matt Gilman
Thanks for starting this DISCUSS. This is definitely an area that we need to continue improving. The concept of a security zone seems like it could be implemented using a Process Group. However, if I'm following along the difference being that the security zone does not visually hide encapsulated

Re: [DISCUSS] Idea for visual access control policy application

2017-01-18 Thread Koji Kawamura
Hi Andy, I like this idea, too! Enabling security policy for multiple components is definitely useful. While I was thinking about the security zone concept, I was wondering if components those share the same level of security policy stay close in 2 Dimensional position on a flow. Maybe those comp

Re: [DISCUSS] Idea for visual access control policy application

2017-01-18 Thread Jeremy Farbota
I like this idea. I like moving some of the security controls into the UI. Using this with Process Groups would be an adequate level of granularity for me. I think this would add a lot of value to the UI and adding security policy controls to UI enables super users to manage the security without ne

Re: [DISCUSS] Idea for visual access control policy application

2017-01-18 Thread Joe Percivall
There are of course UI/UX improvements to be made but as a rough concept, I really like the idea. It reminds me a lot of the origin story of NiFi; where instead of having to map out the dataflow in Visio-like program each time a manager wanted to see the current flow (and it'd be outdated an hour l

Re: [DISCUSS] Idea for visual access control policy application

2017-01-18 Thread larry mccay
That seems like a really interesting integrated visualization of security concerns! You would still need the complexities in the definition of the "security zone" I imagine. On Wed, Jan 18, 2017 at 3:38 PM, Andy LoPresto wrote: > I just opened NIFI-3370 [1] for “apply access control polices > s