Re: Workflow and Release strategy Proposal (Was RE: Project Emails)

2019-12-19 Thread Justin Mclean
HI, > By who? Where is the vote? Conversation in Apache projects need to be in the open, so I’m not sure that a vote in needed to shut down something not controlled by the Apache project that privately run. Thanks, Justin

RE: Workflow and Release strategy Proposal (Was RE: Project Emails)

2019-12-19 Thread David Sidrane
By who? Where is the vote? -Original Message- From: Gregory Nutt [mailto:spudan...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2019 5:45 AM To: dev@nuttx.apache.org Subject: Re: Workflow and Release strategy Proposal (Was RE: Project Emails) > Why would you want to shut down your sl

Re: Workflow and Release strategy Proposal (Was RE: Project Emails)

2019-12-19 Thread Justin Mclean
Hi, > I did create a #nuttx channel in the ASF slack: > https://app.slack.com/client/, but it has been recommended that we not use > that Slack for communication either. It’s fine to talk there but decisions need to be made on the mailing list. Real time communication excludes people who may

Re: Workflow and Release strategy Proposal (Was RE: Project Emails)

2019-12-19 Thread Gregory Nutt
Why would you want to shut down your slack space? Some projects use a slack space and even the ASF has one: the-asf.slack.com I was asked to shut down all NuttX project communications that are not publicly visible.  I have done that.  It was a slow gradual phase out, described in the Google

Re: Workflow and Release strategy Proposal (Was RE: Project Emails)

2019-12-19 Thread Gregory Nutt
Why would you want to shut down your slack space? Some projects use a slack space and even the ASF has one: the-asf.slack.com I was asked to shut down all NuttX project communications that are not publicly visible.  I have done that.  It was a slow gradual phase out, described in the Google

Re: Workflow and Release strategy Proposal (Was RE: Project Emails)

2019-12-19 Thread Flavio Junqueira
Greg, Why would you want to shut down your slack space? Some projects use a slack space and even the ASF has one: the-asf.slack.com -Flavio > On 14 Dec 2019, at 00:46, Gregory Nutt wrote: > > >>> I suggest that we really need to get all discussions, participation, >>> and contributions

Re: Workflow and Release strategy Proposal (Was RE: Project Emails)

2019-12-14 Thread Nathan Hartman
On Fri, Dec 13, 2019 at 6:52 PM Alan Carvalho de Assis wrote: > HI Justin, > > On 12/13/19, Justin Mclean wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I would have no issue with keeping the linked in group, especially it > used > > like that. It would be best to share ownership of it to all the PPMC. > Many > >

Re: Workflow and Release strategy Proposal (Was RE: Project Emails)

2019-12-13 Thread Alan Carvalho de Assis
HI Justin, On 12/13/19, Justin Mclean wrote: > Hi, > > I would have no issue with keeping the linked in group, especially it used > like that. It would be best to share ownership of it to all the PPMC. Many > project have twitter accounts. facebook pages, stack overflow accounts etc > etc. What

Re: Workflow and Release strategy Proposal (Was RE: Project Emails)

2019-12-13 Thread Gregory Nutt
I suggest that we really need to get all discussions, participation, and contributions "under one roof" so to speak, at dev@nuttx.apache.org. I think the Slack, the Google Group, the LinkedIn Group, and any other forums that fragment participants, should wind up soon. Whenever we reply to a

Re: Workflow and Release strategy Proposal (Was RE: Project Emails)

2019-12-13 Thread Justin Mclean
Hi, I would have no issue with keeping the linked in group, especially it used like that. It would be best to share ownership of it to all the PPMC. Many project have twitter accounts. facebook pages, stack overflow accounts etc etc. What important is the he main discussion happens on this

Re: Workflow and Release strategy Proposal (Was RE: Project Emails)

2019-12-13 Thread Alan Carvalho de Assis
Hi Nathan, On 12/13/19, Nathan Hartman wrote: > On Fri, Dec 13, 2019 at 8:53 AM Gregory Nutt wrote: > >> Another thing to consider with the form of the release is that there an >> many, many documents, Wikis, READMEs, HowTos, blogs, and videos >> describing how to get started with NuttX. They

Re: Workflow and Release strategy Proposal (Was RE: Project Emails)

2019-12-13 Thread Justin Mclean
Hi, > I think this is of secondary importance, but certainly any change to the > documented use of NuttX should a factor that is taken into consideration. > Ideally, the only user impact should be the URL used with the 'git clone' (or > download). In general you want to point users to

Re: Workflow and Release strategy Proposal (Was RE: Project Emails)

2019-12-13 Thread Justin Mclean
Hi We can have as many repos as we need and they are easy to set up via ASF self-serve. [1] Thanks, Justin 1. https://selfserve.apache.org

Re: Workflow and Release strategy Proposal (Was RE: Project Emails)

2019-12-13 Thread Justin Mclean
Hi, > Does Apache have any requirements that we must follow for how releases are > made available? Yes they need to be placed in the ASF mirrors. Note that the word release has a particular meaning at the ASF and must contain only source code and voted on by a PMC. Here’s the full release

Re: Workflow and Release strategy Proposal (Was RE: Project Emails)

2019-12-13 Thread Nathan Hartman
On Fri, Dec 13, 2019 at 8:53 AM Gregory Nutt wrote: > Another thing to consider with the form of the release is that there an > many, many documents, Wikis, READMEs, HowTos, blogs, and videos > describing how to get started with NuttX. They all begin either 'git > clone' apps/ and nuttx/ (or

Re: Workflow and Release strategy Proposal (Was RE: Project Emails)

2019-12-13 Thread Xiang Xiao
I think we can keep apps and nuttx as two separate gits, mynewt even has dozen: https://gitbox.apache.org/repos/asf?s=mynewt It's enough to just change tag to branch for incoperating the potential bugfix. Thanks Xiang On Fri, Dec 13, 2019 at 9:53 PM Gregory Nutt wrote: > > Another thing to

Re: Workflow and Release strategy Proposal (Was RE: Project Emails)

2019-12-13 Thread Gregory Nutt
Another thing to consider with the form of the release is that there an many, many documents, Wikis, READMEs, HowTos, blogs, and videos describing how to get started with NuttX.  They all begin either 'git clone' apps/ and nuttx/ (or download the tarballs). Changing that means breaking a lot

Re: Workflow and Release strategy Proposal (Was RE: Project Emails)

2019-12-13 Thread Gregory Nutt
I think this emphasizes the point that we need to understand and document a release requirements and procedure that is 100% consistent with Apache requirements BEFORE we begin having low level discussions on how to implement that release procedure. ... I think that the first question we

Re: Workflow and Release strategy Proposal (Was RE: Project Emails)

2019-12-13 Thread Gregory Nutt
The proposal looks good but we should also consider if we want to support LTS maintenance releases containing bugfixed backported from mainline It is the usual case that after you release code that within one or two weeks after you release code, you discover embarrassing, gaping bugs.  I

Re: Workflow and Release strategy Proposal (Was RE: Project Emails)

2019-12-13 Thread Alin Jerpelea
The proposal looks good but we should also consider if we want to support LTS maintenance releases containing bugfixed backported from mainline Regards Alin On Fri, Dec 13, 2019, 09:27 David Sidrane wrote: > Precisely! We cut a branch as a Release Candidate. nuttx-MM.mm.rr-rcnn. > During the