Re: Deprecate properties in favour of SystemProperties

em. We should also remember that when the idea was 1st expressed and discussed there were no tenants in OFBiz (introduced in 2010). With now tenants, having business properties in data base is necessary and (almost?) all business properties should be shareable by tenants (to be checked). T

Re: Deprecate properties in favour of SystemProperties

ld consider rename it, but that's >>> >>> minor >>>> >>>> in comparison with the second flaw >>>> 2. The second flaw is that we kept the business properties files. To >>>> avoid duplication and confusion all the business properties s

Re: Deprecate properties in favour of SystemProperties

That's why I suggested to Deprecate properties in favour of SystemProperties <https://markmail.org/message/md6fuoouan377c6w>. I also suggested to have specific multitenant and multitenant-initial readers < https://markmail.org/message/opldepaevls3y3ob> for business properties to

Re: Deprecate properties in favour of SystemProperties

To > > avoid duplication and confusion all the business properties should be in > the > > database and a specific UI should be created to easier handled them. > > > > We should also remember that when the idea was 1st expressed and > discussed > > there were no t

Re: Deprecate properties in favour of SystemProperties

That's why I suggested to Deprecate properties in favour of SystemProperties <https://markmail.org/message/md6fuoouan377c6w>. I also suggested to have specific multitenant and multitenant-initial readers < https://markmail.org/message/opldepaevls3y3ob> for business properties to separate thos

Re: Deprecate properties in favour of SystemProperties

e idea was 1st expressed and discussed > there were no tenants in OFBiz (introduced in 2010). With now tenants, > having business properties in data base is necessary and (almost?) all > business properties should be shareable by tenants (to be checked). > > That's why I sugges

Re: Deprecate properties in favour of SystemProperties

iscussed there were no tenants in OFBiz (introduced in 2010). With now tenants, having business properties in data base is necessary and (almost?) all business properties should be shareable by tenants (to be checked). That's why I suggested to Deprecate properties in favour of SystemProperties

Re: Deprecate properties in favour of SystemProperties

If there's an ongoing discussion on the dev list then I don't think it's a good idea to try to move it to jira until there's some consensus on the path forward. Regards Scott On 4 April 2018 at 10:14, Taher Alkhateeb wrote: > I am a little lost in this JIRA and

Re: Deprecate properties in favour of SystemProperties

I am a little lost in this JIRA and cannot follow the discussion. Can you please point to what you want to review with others exactly? On Wed, Apr 4, 2018 at 9:46 AM, Jacques Le Roux wrote: > Le 03/04/2018 à 09:16, Jacques Le Roux a écrit : >> >> I suggest to

Re: Deprecate properties in favour of SystemProperties

Le 03/04/2018 à 09:16, Jacques Le Roux a écrit : I suggest to continue the discussion at https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-7112 where I have completed my proposition Since there were some more comments after is al link to my comment with my completed my proposition

Re: Deprecate properties in favour of SystemProperties

I suggest to continue the discussion at https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-7112 where I have completed my proposition Jacques Le 18/02/2018 à 13:37, Jacques Le Roux a écrit : Michael, Actually this idea of multitenant and multitenant-initial readers came to me after your

Re: Deprecate properties in favour of SystemProperties

Michael, Actually this idea of multitenant and multitenant-initial readers came to me after your proposition of commenting out the load of CommonSystemPropertyData.xml. This idea is easy and safe to implement. It's only a matter of changing the data and no code change is needed (I consider

Re: Deprecate properties in favour of SystemProperties

I agree, the two serve entirely different purposes. Multi tenancy simply means different databases sharing the same code base. If any differences in configuration are substantial enough, then this is when you consider two or more instances instead of multi-tenancy. I don't favor multi-tenancy

Re: Deprecate properties in favour of SystemProperties

Hi Jacques, I think the SystemProperty feature should not be tight together with the multi tenant terminology. It is usable without it and therefore should have it's own configuration. It would just add more confusion to users. Regards, Michael Am 18.02.18 um 08:08 schrieb Jacques Le

Re: Deprecate properties in favour of SystemProperties

Thanks Michael, Taher's reluctance pushed me to think about another solution. I add the same thought than you but with a different solution. We could have a multitenant and multitenant-initial readers, like we have seed and seed-initial Like ext readers , it would not be included in loadAll.

Re: Deprecate properties in favour of SystemProperties [ was Re: Sending mail from Ofbiz does not work]

I don't think that this is the right way to go. The original problem is that we have some example SystemProperty data which is loaded automatically when you setup OFBiz in the documented way. This leads to confusion when someone changes the file properties for e.g. the mail transport

Re: Deprecate properties in favour of SystemProperties

Le 16/02/2018 à 18:18, Taher Alkhateeb a écrit : That could be probably an incredibly dangerous and complexity-inudcing idea. Imagine what you are suggesting, a massive state machine, implied and not explicit (a massive global collection of variables). Are you thinking about the properties

Re: Deprecate properties in favour of SystemProperties [ was Re: Sending mail from Ofbiz does not work]

That could be probably an incredibly dangerous and complexity-inudcing idea. Imagine what you are suggesting, a massive state machine, implied and not explicit (a massive global collection of variables). In my opinion explicit is always better than implicit and we should strive to actually reduce

Deprecate properties in favour of SystemProperties [ was Re: Sending mail from Ofbiz does not work]

The more I think about it, the more I believe the ultimate solution is to remove all properties in favour of SystemProperties. And to no longer use properties but only SystemProperties. This entails to 1. completely implements EntityUtilProperties 2. deprecate UtilProperties 3. replace  all