Re: [DISCUSSION] What are we going to do with the R14.x and r15.x?

2016-07-11 Thread Jacques Le Roux
Le 11/07/2016 à 19:46, Jacques Le Roux a écrit : Pierre, All, There are 3 aspects here: 1. Repositories, you can do almost what you want, the ASF does not care if you put jar, exe, dll, youNameIt... there (kidding with dll ;)) 2. Source releases (required by ASF and must not contain external j

Re: [DISCUSSION] What are we going to do with the R14.x and r15.x?

2016-07-11 Thread Jacques Le Roux
Pierre, All, There are 3 aspects here: 1. Repositories, you can do almost what you want, the ASF does not care if you put jar, exe, dll, youNameIt... there (kidding with dll ;)) 2. Source releases (required by ASF and must not contain external jar) 3. Binaries releases (required by ASF and can

Re: [DISCUSSION] What are we going to do with the R14.x and r15.x?

2016-07-11 Thread Pierre Smits
Thanks Jacopo. Now that we have the initial intent of this thread resolved, shall we continue the suggestion by Sharan regarding backporting bug fixes from trunk to the r14.12 and 15.12 branched in a new thread? Best regards, Pierre Smits ORRTIZ.COM OFBiz based solutions

Re: [DISCUSSION] What are we going to do with the R14.x and r15.x?

2016-07-11 Thread Jacopo Cappellato
Thanks for your suggestion, we will definitely make sure that our website will provide the correct information in a clear way. Jacopo On Mon, Jul 11, 2016 at 11:27 AM, Pierre Smits wrote: > I just want unambiguous communications from the project to its community > (contributors and adopters). >

Re: [DISCUSSION] What are we going to do with the R14.x and r15.x?

2016-07-11 Thread Pierre Smits
I just want unambiguous communications from the project to its community (contributors and adopters). Messages as 'what I understand' are personal viewpoints, and - like other posting that starts in similar ways - dilute perceptions of the project's direction with respect to its products. If all

Re: [DISCUSSION] What are we going to do with the R14.x and r15.x?

2016-07-11 Thread gil portenseigne
Hi Sharan, Thanks for the sum-up, that's quite i had got in mind. I think that 12 month seems OK, Gil On 11/07/2016 10:33, Sharan Foga wrote: As an initial suggestion – would 12 months be a good timeframe to work with. What do other people think?

Re: [DISCUSSION] What are we going to do with the R14.x and r15.x?

2016-07-11 Thread Jacopo Cappellato
On Mon, Jul 11, 2016 at 10:33 AM, Sharan Foga wrote: > ... > In fact the main discussion that I wanted to start here was more related > to support for 14.12 and 15.12. As we are in transition to gradle, we need > to define a time period for backporting bug fixes into these unreleased > branches.

Re: [DISCUSSION] What are we going to do with the R14.x and r15.x?

2016-07-11 Thread Sharan Foga
Hi Pierre I've responded to your initial questions but it sounds like you want to discuss something other than the support of 14.12 and 15.12 so I'll start a separate thread for the support discussion. Thanks Sharan On 2016-07-11 10:55 (+0200), Pierre Smits wrote: > Hi Taher, > > It seems y

Re: [DISCUSSION] What are we going to do with the R14.x and r15.x?

2016-07-11 Thread Jacopo Cappellato
I went thru all the comments in this thread and it seems to me that the summary that Sharan provided based on the discussion on the user list is a good way to go to deal with Pierre's and other's concerns and with the concerns of the developers: it seems we are all on the same page. Jacopo On Mon

Re: [DISCUSSION] What are we going to do with the R14.x and r15.x?

2016-07-11 Thread Pierre Smits
Hi Taher, It seems you did not read the entire posting. The ASF doesn't object from having external libraries (3rd party jar files) in the convenience downloads projects make available. This is what OFBiz does also. If there is a problem within the release process, regarding the external librari

Re: [DISCUSSION] What are we going to do with the R14.x and r15.x?

2016-07-11 Thread Taher Alkhateeb
Hi Pierre, It seems you did not read the entire sentence, so I will write here again from the JIRA you mentioned. >From Jacques: "There is no problems having an external jar (and even more) in the repo. The pb is only when we release" This is exactly what Sharan is saying above. You can keep Jar

Re: [DISCUSSION] What are we going to do with the R14.x and r15.x?

2016-07-11 Thread Pierre Smits
Jacques posted this recently in a JIRA issue: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-7768?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel&focusedCommentId=15369886#comment-15369886 Stating that there is no issue with having 3rd party libraries (jar files) in the repo. Al

Re: [DISCUSSION] What are we going to do with the R14.x and r15.x?

2016-07-11 Thread Sharan Foga
Hi Pierre Thanks for starting the discussion. I had expected to start it this week, giving us time to continue stabilising and consolidating the gradle work in the trunk from last week. (Also a minor correction – I 'suggested' not 'promised'). Anyway my suggestion was to take the discussion

[DISCUSSION] What are we going to do with the R14.x and r15.x?

2016-07-10 Thread Pierre Smits
Hi all, Sharan promised the greater community in the '[*[DISCUSSION]* *Anticipate* the *end* of *life* of the *13.07* branch and backport some non-bug related changes to the 14.12 and 15.12 branches ' starting via http://ofbiz.markmail.org/message/nqo