Re: Feedback on Committer Mentoring and HipChat

2016-09-02 Thread Sharan Foga
Hi Everyone Thanks very much for all the feedback. I think consensus is showing that the community would like to continue to use the HipChat tool. So for next steps I will 1) Request Infra to setup an OFBiz HipChat room with a guest access link so that anyone can join the room 2) Send out

Re: Feedback on Committer Mentoring and HipChat

2016-08-24 Thread Sharan Foga
Hi All All good points Taher- thanks for detailing them in a clear way. I don't think HipChat should be a restricted to be opened on certain occasions - it is a tool, so should be available whenever anyone wants to use it. Not everyone can collaborate only on our Community Days. I really

Re: Feedback on Committer Mentoring and HipChat

2016-08-24 Thread Jacques Le Roux
I agree Taher, from so far feedbacks it seems it more the manner to use it which needs to be addressed. What about "opening it" only for 1. together working days 2. when we agree about quickly exchanging on a subject previously roughly explained on dev ML By "opening it" I mean we would have

Re: Feedback on Committer Mentoring and HipChat

2016-08-24 Thread Taher Alkhateeb
Hello everyone, To put some context into this discussion please note the reason why we started hipchat in the first place is because of communication barriers. As we started the refactoring project many people were overwhelmed with the complexity of some of the tasks, and people needed to

Re: Feedback on Committer Mentoring and HipChat

2016-08-24 Thread Jacques Le Roux
Le 23/08/2016 à 11:16, Jacques Le Roux a écrit : I read recently that the infra team, which uses HipChat a lot for valuable reasons, was questioned about that by the board, because HipChat is delivered by Atlassian (only the free, minor version) and history is a concern. Sorry, I incorrectly

Re: Feedback on Committer Mentoring and HipChat

2016-08-23 Thread Scott Gray
I'm in two minds about it. On one hand it's nice to be able to chat in real time with other community members and increasing our sense of community is important for the project. But on the other hand, I fear it would too often be used to have discussions that should really be had on the user/dev

Re: Feedback on Committer Mentoring and HipChat

2016-08-23 Thread Ashish Vijaywargiya
Hipchat is a wonderful software. I think opening it for community day can be a good step but I would refrain to open it on the daily basis. Thanks! -- Kind Regards Ashish Vijaywargiya HotWax Systems - est. 1997 On Mon, Aug 22, 2016 at 2:12 PM, Sharan Foga wrote: > Hi

Re: Feedback on Committer Mentoring and HipChat

2016-08-23 Thread Deepak Dixit
Hi Sharan, I like HipChat,, it allow us to communicate with each other, it helps in debugging. Thanks & Regards -- Deepak Dixit www.hotwaxsystems.com On Tue, Aug 23, 2016 at 2:46 PM, Jacques Le Roux < jacques.le.r...@les7arts.com> wrote: > If I had to choose I'd pickup Skype, not because it's

Re: Feedback on Committer Mentoring and HipChat

2016-08-23 Thread Jacques Le Roux
If I had to choose I'd pickup Skype, not because it's M$ (heck), but because it's the one with the easier previous lines edition (when this feature exist). I also use PidGin with XMMP (Jabber), no previous lines edition. I read recently that the infra team, which uses HipChat a lot for valuable

Re: Feedback on Committer Mentoring and HipChat

2016-08-23 Thread Julien NICOLAS
Hi Sharan, When you start Hipchat, you opened an OFBiz room and I was loving it. Push Hipchat in the startup app even it's not a Libre Software and always aware on what's happen on this OFBiz community window. I was the feeling to be closer to the OFBiz community. Then, people decided that

Re: Feedback on Committer Mentoring and HipChat

2016-08-23 Thread Jacques Le Roux
+1 Actually I must say I far prefer async communication (ie email) for many reasons. There are though some cases where it's helpful, but I trust it's rare. You can react quite quickly to an email too... And of course still the ASF mantra as a guide: "If it didn't happen on a mailing list, it

Re: Feedback on Committer Mentoring and HipChat

2016-08-22 Thread Wei Zhang
I agree with Divesh. We should not use HipChat all days as it is hard to track the discussion topic. Also the developers are in different time zone. It is hard to chat online at the same time

Re: Feedback on Committer Mentoring and HipChat

2016-08-22 Thread Jacques Le Roux
Thanks Gil, I think you've nailed it I also agree with Divesh when he says "About using it for whole community on community days can be good idea. However using it in all other days may not be good idea for whole community. So yes, as you mentioned that discussions and decisions will still be

Re: Feedback on Committer Mentoring and HipChat

2016-08-22 Thread gil portenseigne
Hello Sharan, I really think that HipChat is a good tool to help teamwork and mentoring, it offers interactiveness that mailing list cannot offer. That was very helpful in librairies externalization work. Since it's technically possible, it's best to be open to anyone teamworking or in

Re: Feedback on Committer Mentoring and HipChat

2016-08-22 Thread Divesh Dutta
Hi Sharan, Thanks for starting this thread. In general, I think that setting up HipChat environment is a good step and it helps to communicate with other committers and collaborate on common tasks. So in my opinion we can make it available on permanent basis. About using it for whole community

Feedback on Committer Mentoring and HipChat

2016-08-22 Thread Sharan Foga
Hi All A few weeks ago, in response to the results of the Committer Survey, I setup a trial Hipchat environment to help with Committer Mentoring. (See links to the previous discussion threads below:)