Re: [DISCUSS] Re: [VOTE] New Apache OpenOffice PMC Chair

2015-02-08 Thread Andrea Pescetti
Peter Junge wrote: What is the conclusion of this vote? As far as I understand the Apache philosophy, such votes are no majority votes but consensus is the goal. Conclusion is that Jan is the person I will recommend for replacing me. The vote outcome determines the new Chair. A a

RE: [DISCUSS] Re: [VOTE] New Apache OpenOffice PMC Chair

2015-02-08 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
[mailto:pesce...@apache.org] Sent: Sunday, February 8, 2015 02:24 To: dev@openoffice.apache.org Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Re: [VOTE] New Apache OpenOffice PMC Chair Peter Junge wrote: What is the conclusion of this vote? As far as I understand the Apache philosophy, such votes are no majority votes

Re: [DISCUSS] Re: [VOTE] New Apache OpenOffice PMC Chair

2015-01-26 Thread Andrea Pescetti
Il 20/01/2015 00:29, Louis Suárez-Potts wrote: On 19 Jan 2015, at 13:32, Kay Schenk wrote: I am probably seeming very disagreeable here. ... Andrea and others believe that the election process has proceeded as it ought to have, with enough time allowed for discussion and then vote. But you

Re: [DISCUSS] Re: [VOTE] New Apache OpenOffice PMC Chair

2015-01-20 Thread Jürgen Schmidt
On 20/01/15 00:29, Louis Suárez-Potts wrote: On 19 Jan 2015, at 13:32, Kay Schenk kay.sch...@gmail.com wrote: I am probably seeming very disagreeable here. Nope. You'll have to try harder :-) More seriously, you point to a flaw that was not evident on an abstract level but was in

Re: [DISCUSS] Re: [VOTE] New Apache OpenOffice PMC Chair

2015-01-20 Thread Ian Lynch
My view is more positive. Louis has at least one thing in his favour - long term experience. Also I think he has a clear track record of commitment to the project in difficult times. I have had differences with him in the past, but I think that is just part of any pluralist system. I don't

Re: [DISCUSS] Re: [VOTE] New Apache OpenOffice PMC Chair

2015-01-20 Thread Louis Suárez-Potts
Briefly, On 20 Jan 2015, at 05:42, Ian Lynch ianrly...@gmail.com wrote: My view is more positive. Louis has at least one thing in his favour - long term experience. Also I think he has a clear track record of commitment to the project in difficult times. I have had differences with him in

Re: [DISCUSS] Re: [VOTE] New Apache OpenOffice PMC Chair

2015-01-19 Thread Louis Suárez-Potts
On 19 Jan 2015, at 13:32, Kay Schenk kay.sch...@gmail.com wrote: I am probably seeming very disagreeable here. Nope. You'll have to try harder :-) More seriously, you point to a flaw that was not evident on an abstract level but was in practice. I had an IM conversation with Andrea over

Re: [DISCUSS] Re: [VOTE] New Apache OpenOffice PMC Chair

2015-01-19 Thread Ian Lynch
+1 On 19 January 2015 at 00:27, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org wrote: On 17/01/2015 Kay Schenk wrote: It's true the two last nominees -- Jan and Louis -- did discuss their views at length, but there was not really much discussion on the selections from this list. Contrast this from the

Re: [DISCUSS] Re: [VOTE] New Apache OpenOffice PMC Chair

2015-01-19 Thread Kay Schenk
On 01/18/2015 04:27 PM, Andrea Pescetti wrote: On 17/01/2015 Kay Schenk wrote: It's true the two last nominees -- Jan and Louis -- did discuss their views at length, but there was not really much discussion on the selections from this list. Contrast this from the discussions that preceded

RE: [DISCUSS] Re: [VOTE] New Apache OpenOffice PMC Chair

2015-01-15 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
we'll see. -Original Message- From: Rob Weir [mailto:r...@robweir.com] Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2015 06:06 To: dev@openoffice.apache.org Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Re: [VOTE] New Apache OpenOffice PMC Chair On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 3:57 AM, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org wrote

RE: [DISCUSS] Re: [VOTE] New Apache OpenOffice PMC Chair

2015-01-15 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
-- replying below to -- From: Michal Hriň [mailto:michal.h...@yahoo.com.INVALID] Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2015 01:48 To: dev@openoffice.apache.org Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Re: [VOTE] New Apache OpenOffice PMC Chair V Štvrtok, 15. január 2015 o 09:04 +0100, Andrea Pescetti napísal

Re: [DISCUSS] Re: [VOTE] New Apache OpenOffice PMC Chair

2015-01-15 Thread Andrea Pescetti
On 15/01/2015 Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: I also think that there is a serious misunderstanding of what it means to be PMC Chair. I will comment on a few items only, merely for clarifying previous discussions. I think Dennis is right here, but I explained the Chair role at the beginning, I

Re: [DISCUSS] Re: [VOTE] New Apache OpenOffice PMC Chair

2015-01-15 Thread O.Felka
Am 15.01.2015 um 09:04 schrieb Andrea Pescetti: Procedural note: I didn't add it to my initial mail in order to keep it short, but it is highly recommended that -1 votes be accompanied by a brief motivation (1-2 lines), especially if you haven't participated in the discussions so far. Knowing

Re: [DISCUSS] Re: [VOTE] New Apache OpenOffice PMC Chair

2015-01-15 Thread Michal Hriň
V Štvrtok, 15. január 2015 o 09:04 +0100, Andrea Pescetti napísal(a): On 15/01/2015 Andrea Pescetti wrote: Do you approve that, in his capacity as the Apache OpenOffice PMC Chair, Andrea Pescetti submits a resolution to the Board asking to be replaced by Louis Suárez-Potts as the Apache

Re: [DISCUSS] Re: [VOTE] New Apache OpenOffice PMC Chair

2015-01-15 Thread Rory O'Farrell
On Thu, 15 Jan 2015 09:57:43 +0100 Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org wrote: O.Felka wrote: Am 15.01.2015 um 09:04 schrieb Andrea Pescetti: Procedural note: I didn't add it to my initial mail in order to keep it short, but it is highly recommended that -1 votes be accompanied by a brief

Re: [DISCUSS] Re: [VOTE] New Apache OpenOffice PMC Chair

2015-01-15 Thread Andrea Pescetti
O.Felka wrote: Am 15.01.2015 um 09:04 schrieb Andrea Pescetti: Procedural note: I didn't add it to my initial mail in order to keep it short, but it is highly recommended that -1 votes be accompanied by a brief motivation (1-2 lines), especially if you haven't participated in the discussions so

Re: [DISCUSS] Re: [VOTE] New Apache OpenOffice PMC Chair

2015-01-15 Thread Rob Weir
On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 3:57 AM, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org wrote: O.Felka wrote: Am 15.01.2015 um 09:04 schrieb Andrea Pescetti: Procedural note: I didn't add it to my initial mail in order to keep it short, but it is highly recommended that -1 votes be accompanied by a brief