Re: Dual licensing of patches and code

2013-03-09 Thread Andrea Pescetti
The conversation below happened in public, but not on the OpenOffice 
public lists. I believe it's good to record its outcome here on the 
OpenOffice dev list too.


Summary:
- Question from Jim Jagielski: Is a contribution under ALv2 + MPL + 
LGPLv3+ acceptable to both OpenOffice and LibreOffice (and Apache 
Software Foundation and The Document Foundation)?
- Answer by the OpenOffice PMC: Yes (speaking for the OpenOffice 
project). See http://openoffice.apache.org/contributing-code.html 


No further discussion needed on the OpenOffice dev list. The ongoing 
conversation can be read at: 
http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/


Regards,
  Andrea.

On 05/03/2013 Jim Jagielski wrote:


On Mar 5, 2013, at 10:34 AM, Jim Jagielskij...@jagunet.com  wrote:


So far, I've rec'd an answer from AOO... I'd appreciate
an answer from TDF as well.

On Mar 4, 2013, at 11:39 AM, Jim Jagielskij...@jagunet.com  wrote:


BTW, Please be sure that I'm on the CC list, so I get
any and all responses :)


On Mar 4, 2013, at 8:08 AM, Jim Jagielskij...@jagunet.com  wrote:


Hello there.

This Email is being directed to the 2 controlling bodies of
the Apache OpenOffice Project and LibreOffice (TDF). You will
notice that I am sending this from my non-ASF account.

Recently, at various conferences, I have been approached by
numerous people, both 100% volunteer as well as more corporate
affiliated, wondering if it was OK for them to submit code,
patches and fixes to both AOO and LO at the same time. In
general, these people have code that directly patches LO
but they also want to dual-license the code such that it
can also be consumed by AOO even if it requires work and
modification for it to be committed to, and folded into,
the AOO repo. My response has always been that as the
orig author of their code/patches/whatever, they can
license their contributions as they see fit. However,
I have been told that they have rec'd word that such
dual-licensed code would not be accepted by, or acceptable
to, either the AOO project and/or LO and/or TDF and/or
the ASF.

Therefore, I am asking for official confirmation from
both projects and both entities that both projectsSo
are fully OK with accepting code/patches/etc that
are licensed in such a way as to be 100% consumable
by both projects. For example, if I have a code patch
which is dual-licensed both under LGPLv3 and ALv2, that
such a patch would be acceptable to both LO and AOO.

Thank you.










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Re: Review Board

2013-03-09 Thread Daniel Shahaf
Dave Fisher wrote on Fri, Mar 08, 2013 at 15:35:31 -0800:
 
 On Mar 8, 2013, at 1:47 PM, Rob Weir wrote:
 
  On Fri, Mar 8, 2013 at 4:21 PM, janI j...@apache.org wrote:
  On 8 March 2013 22:16, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote:
  
  On Fri, Mar 8, 2013 at 3:51 PM, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote:
  Only if we are going to become a Review Then Commit project.
  
  
  I was thinking more of whether it would be useful for working with
  patch contributions from contributors.
  
  
  Just be careful not to set level too high for volunteers, in my opinion the
  mailing list is more than enough, no need for extra layers to complicate
  matters.
  
  
  That's exactly the issue.  The mailing list is so busy that new
  volunteers get lost, and their patches as well.  And if they toss
  their patches to bugzilla, the patches can easily be lost there was
  well.  So the question is whether a dedicated place for patches, with
  no distracting complications, would be preferred.
 
 If there are volunteers who will do RTC work for new code contributors
 then this might be an improvement to bug tracking.

FWIW, over at Subversion we (a) have a 'patch' label in the bug tracker,
(b) have a volunteer who pings [patch] threads that have petered out
without the patch being either applie or rejected.

http://subversion.apache.org/docs/community-guide/roles#patch-manager

Perhaps one or both of these ideas would be useful here.

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office 3.4

2013-03-09 Thread Philip Robinson
Hi

I have been using office for years without problems.

Today I tried updating to 3.4 - with disastrous results. It has taken me
all morning to get rid of the wretched thing. When opening 3.4 all I got
was a blue mark on the screen about 20mm by 4 mm.

I tried reinstalling a couple of times. So now I've got rid of it and have
just downloaded 3.3.

Regards

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Re: update service for not released languages [was: Re: Registration]

2013-03-09 Thread janI
On 9 March 2013 12:52, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org wrote:

 On 03/03/2013 janI wrote:

 On 3 March 2013 17:47, Andrea Pescetti wrote:

 1) Check on the Pootle 2.5 release date and features.

 I would like to see it running on other sites the translate itself, but I
 am just a negative (have been too long in support). My rule of thumb is
 release date + 1 month, in order not to fight fight with start problems.


 Here I agree with Rob that we need to set a deadline. A natural one is the
 translation period set at https://cwiki.apache.org/**
 confluence/display/OOOUSERS/**AOO+4.0+Release+Planninghttps://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.0+Release+Planning(beginning
  in one month). So, considering installation and testing, we
 would need Pootle 2.5 to be available soon. I've asked the developers if
 they have a timeline, just to get an idea.

  2) Check that policy-wise it's fine to authenticate committers on LDAP and
 all other volunteers on a local backend. ...

 infra (gmcdonald) was not positive, but I still think we
 have a case and should go for it...I do however think a compromise could
 be
 a signed ICLA.


 This has been clarified in the meantime on the Incubator lists (in a
 discussion otherwise unrelated to OpenOffice). No ICLA needed.
 http://mail-archives.apache.**org/mod_mbox/incubator-**
 general/201303.mbox/%3CCAAS6%**3D7hybut%**3DLGZQRkuuJPXKK4KPS6CiXDYE5-**
 QTmvguYHOVFA%40mail.gmail.com%**3Ehttp://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-general/201303.mbox/%3CCAAS6%3D7hybut%3DLGZQRkuuJPXKK4KPS6CiXDYE5-QTmvguYHOVFA%40mail.gmail.com%3E


That does not (as I read it) state that we can bypass RTC for
non-committers. Allowing non-committers access is one thing, but allowing
them to change the source (in this case text) directly is quite another.

Translated text is being compiled into our binaries, so there are no
difference for source code and and translations.

I have no problem (infra might see it differently) if non-committers do a
login and provide suggestions (as today), that way we keep RTC.

rgds
Jan I.


  3) Optimize performance so that Pootle is actually usable by several
 users.

 That is something on my list of todos, and infra ask me regulary when I do
 it. ...a bottle of good italian wine when if finally works,
 together with genLang.


 OK. And OK for the bottle too!

 Regards,
   Andrea.

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Re: update service for not released languages [was: Re: Registration]

2013-03-09 Thread Andrea Pescetti

janI wrote:

That does not (as I read it) state that we can bypass RTC for
non-committers. Allowing non-committers access is one thing, but allowing
them to change the source (in this case text) directly is quite another.


Sure. The setting for new volunteers would be:

1) No paperwork, no ICLA, just create an account on Pootle

2) Translate through suggestions (equivalent to contributing patches)

3) RTC in place (i.e., strings are committed after a review by a 
committer, exactly as it happens now; what a review is in this context 
will vary, as it is now, depending on availability and skills of 
volunteers).


Regards,
  Andrea.

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Re: Dual licensing of patches and code

2013-03-09 Thread Louis Suárez-Potts

On 13-03-09, at 05:39 , Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org wrote:

 The conversation below happened in public, but not on the OpenOffice public 
 lists. I believe it's good to record its outcome here on the OpenOffice dev 
 list too.

Yes; thanks!

 
 Summary:
 - Question from Jim Jagielski: Is a contribution under ALv2 + MPL + LGPLv3+ 
 acceptable to both OpenOffice and LibreOffice (and Apache Software Foundation 
 and The Document Foundation)?
 - Answer by the OpenOffice PMC: Yes (speaking for the OpenOffice project). 
 See http://openoffice.apache.org/contributing-code.html 

Quite.

 
 No further discussion needed on the OpenOffice dev list. The ongoing 
 conversation can be read at: 
 http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/

Thanks, Andrea, this is very useful.


 
 Regards,
  Andrea.

Best
louis
 
 On 05/03/2013 Jim Jagielski wrote:
 
 On Mar 5, 2013, at 10:34 AM, Jim Jagielskij...@jagunet.com  wrote:
 
 So far, I've rec'd an answer from AOO... I'd appreciate
 an answer from TDF as well.
 
 On Mar 4, 2013, at 11:39 AM, Jim Jagielskij...@jagunet.com  wrote:
 
 BTW, Please be sure that I'm on the CC list, so I get
 any and all responses :)
 
 
 On Mar 4, 2013, at 8:08 AM, Jim Jagielskij...@jagunet.com  wrote:
 
 Hello there.
 
 This Email is being directed to the 2 controlling bodies of
 the Apache OpenOffice Project and LibreOffice (TDF). You will
 notice that I am sending this from my non-ASF account.
 
 Recently, at various conferences, I have been approached by
 numerous people, both 100% volunteer as well as more corporate
 affiliated, wondering if it was OK for them to submit code,
 patches and fixes to both AOO and LO at the same time. In
 general, these people have code that directly patches LO
 but they also want to dual-license the code such that it
 can also be consumed by AOO even if it requires work and
 modification for it to be committed to, and folded into,
 the AOO repo. My response has always been that as the
 orig author of their code/patches/whatever, they can
 license their contributions as they see fit. However,
 I have been told that they have rec'd word that such
 dual-licensed code would not be accepted by, or acceptable
 to, either the AOO project and/or LO and/or TDF and/or
 the ASF.
 
 Therefore, I am asking for official confirmation from
 both projects and both entities that both projectsSo
 are fully OK with accepting code/patches/etc that
 are licensed in such a way as to be 100% consumable
 by both projects. For example, if I have a code patch
 which is dual-licensed both under LGPLv3 and ALv2, that
 such a patch would be acceptable to both LO and AOO.
 
 Thank you.
 
 
 
 
 
 
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RE: Dual licensing of patches and code

2013-03-09 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
It is not clear to me that the Apache OpenOffice statement answers the
question as it was asked at [tdf-discuss].  I read Jim's question as
being about multi-licensing (dual- or more).  Not about a contributor
making a contribution of their original work in two places and under
different licenses in each place.  That's very different.

If the AOO page is considered an affirmative response to Jim's question, 
then so is Florian Effenberger's pointing to The Document Foundation 
license-policy page, 
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/License_Policy.

For me, multi-licensing would be a kind of one-stop contribution that
allows the contribution to be used by those who obtain it in accordance 
with whichever of the multi-licensings they choose.  

Nothing is done to facilitate that by either project.  Furthermore, 
all of the licenses that are considered have strings on how a contri-
bution is accounted for in any combined/derivative work.

By the way, there is no mention of the Apache License (any version) 
in the iCLA that is offered to the ASF and that all committers have
on record.  It strikes me that a contribution in accordance with the
default case in section 5 of the ALv2 is similarly entirely about 
sections 2, 3 and related definitions.  The sections about recipients 
is not something that governs the contributor's use of their own 
contribution (a good reason those are not in the iCLA, since an iCLA 
is entirely about contribution).  
Cf. http://www.apache.org/licenses/LICENSE-2.0.

The manner in which TDF collects license grants is 
rather different, with contributors specifying the licenses that 
their work can be released under (i.e., they are multi-licensing
their contributions).

From all of this, you can surmise what I mean to accomplish by my
blanket, public grants regarding my contributions to LibreOffice and 
Apache projects, so that anyone can make us of those contributions,
no matter which project the contributed is made to, with the same 
permissiveness granted to the ASF in an Apache iCLA.  And that can
be done without my having to make direct contributions in more than
one of those places.

 - Dennis

PS: I am not cross-posting this response.  I shall forward my part
to [tdf-discuss] however.

-Original Message-
From: Andrea Pescetti [mailto:pesce...@apache.org] 
Sent: Saturday, March 09, 2013 02:40
To: dev@openoffice.apache.org
Cc: Jim Jagielski; disc...@documentfoundation.org; i...@documentfoundation.org
Subject: Re: Dual licensing of patches and code

The conversation below happened in public, but not on the OpenOffice 
public lists. I believe it's good to record its outcome here on the 
OpenOffice dev list too.

Summary:
- Question from Jim Jagielski: Is a contribution under ALv2 + MPL + 
LGPLv3+ acceptable to both OpenOffice and LibreOffice (and Apache 
Software Foundation and The Document Foundation)?
- Answer by the OpenOffice PMC: Yes (speaking for the OpenOffice 
project). See http://openoffice.apache.org/contributing-code.html 

No further discussion needed on the OpenOffice dev list. The ongoing 
conversation can be read at: 
http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/

Regards,
   Andrea.

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FW: GRANT OF LICENSE: Dennis Hamilton LibreOffice contributions

2013-03-09 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
I have made this grant known to The Document Foundation and the
LibreOffice project. The TDF notification appears at 
http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/msg09424.html.

If any use of my contributions to LibreOffice by Apache Projects is
questioned, you can cite this grant if applicable.

Likewise, before someone on AOO becomes too exercised on seeing any 
Apache OpenOffice contribution of mine used by the LibreOffice
project, please have them be aware of the grant I have made
here on the AOO dev list.

I will also provide this information on a web site of mine where it
may be easier to consult and reference.

 - Dennis

PS: One difference.  I replaced recipients, below, with parties
obtaining in the ASF Contributions grant.  I don't want to 
churn these, but I will make that update to the LibO one also if
anyone finds it preferable (and more clear).


-Original Message-
From: Dennis E. Hamilton [mailto:orc...@apache.org] 
Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2013 19:48
To: LOffice Developers List (libreoff...@lists.freedesktop.org)
Cc: 'disc...@documentfoundation.org'
Subject: Grant of License

This grant does not specify any particular open-source license.

My intention is to not limit in any way the licensing of works
that my contributions are incorporated in.  The license is self-
contained for that reason.  There is no conflict with how
LibreOffice releases are licensed and there is nothing that has
to be done about the presence of my contributions or derivatives
thereof.

It is also my intention that everyone having access to my
contributions to LibreOffice where they are so contributed be
be granted the license whether or not the contribution is accepted
into LibreOffice and wherever those recipients might choose
to rely on its provisions.

The license makes no stipulations one way or the other concerning
works of mine that are not contributions to LibreOffice.  The
license does not transfer copyright nor does it assign patents.

 - Dennis

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Re: cleanup of cwiki...

2013-03-09 Thread Kay Schenk
On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 9:44 AM, Kay Schenk kay.sch...@gmail.com wrote:



 On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 4:41 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote:

 On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 6:53 PM, Kay Schenk kay.sch...@gmail.com wrote:
  On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 3:50 PM, Alexandro Colorado j...@oooes.org
 wrote:
 
  I rarerly go to the cwiki nowadays. I think this info should be
  archieved. if there is such a process. However I should also include
  the things for 3.4.0.
 
 
  Well cwiki is part of our public information, so this is mostly why I
 ask.
  We do have an Archive folder.
 

 Yes, I created that Archive folder and have gradually been moving
 pages that were no longer relevant there.

 This will make it easier if we later want to migrate to MWiki for
 these.  Then we only need to to worry about the active pages.

 The planning pages you link to were the pages we used to plan the
 incubation process.  These pages were used before we even migrated
 MWiki over to Apache.

 -Rob


 OK, I'll move them to the Archive folder by the end of the weekend. There
 may be other pages that should moved as well, or at least renamed. Others
 can decide on this.


Ok, I just got done with this bunch of moves.  More reorg of the cwiki on a
new thread.




 
 
  On 3/6/13, Kay Schenk kay.sch...@gmail.com wrote:
   In our attempts to try to keep information current, do the following
  cwiki
   entries have any relevance any more (the first  6 entries under
 Project
   Planning)?
  
   https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Build-Dev-Plan
   https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Build-QA-Plan
  
 
 https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Build-Translate-Plan
  
 https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Release-PPMC-Plan
  
 https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Release-Dev-Plan
  
 
 https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Release-Translate-Plan
  
   Should these be archived? or perhaps deleted entirely?
  
   --
  
 
 
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suggestion for another cwiki change..new

2013-03-09 Thread Kay Schenk
Right now, for top level categories on cwiki, we have the following:


   -  
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Release-Translate-Plan?moved=true#
Project 
Planninghttps://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Project+Planning
   -  
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Release-Translate-Plan?moved=true#
User Documentation
Planhttps://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/User+Documentation+Plan
-  
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Release-Translate-Plan?moved=true#
Marketing 
Planninghttps://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Marketing+Planning
-
Development Snapshot
Buildshttps://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Development+Snapshot+Builds
-  
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Release-Translate-Plan?moved=true#
Project 
Reportinghttps://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Project+Reporting
-  
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Release-Translate-Plan?moved=true#
Localization
Planninghttps://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Localization+Planning
-  
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Release-Translate-Plan?moved=true#
QA 
Planninghttps://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/QA+Planning
-  
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Release-Translate-Plan?moved=true#
AOO4 
Brainstorminghttps://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO4+Brainstorming
-  
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Release-Translate-Plan?moved=true#
Board 
Reportshttps://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Board+Reports
-  
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Release-Translate-Plan?moved=true#
Directory of
Volunteershttps://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Directory+of+Volunteers
-  
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Release-Translate-Plan?moved=true#
Archive https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Archive
   -  
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Release-Translate-Plan?moved=true#
Strategic 
Planshttps://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Strategic+Plans

Now for releases, release planning, we have the AOO 3.4 Release Plan is its
own subcategory under Project Planning.

However, other Release Plans are under a sub-category called Releases.

Are there any objections to promoting Releases to a top-level category
and put the various version release plans under that (including 3.4)?

I  must  be in a spring cleaning mood! :}

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Re: suggestion for another cwiki change..new

2013-03-09 Thread Dave Fisher
I am personally fine with whatever you do along the lines of surfacing current 
planning efforts and archiving old efforts.

For cwiki articles that should be moved to Mwiki then perhaps a For MWiki 
category would make sense.

If you need someone with full confluence admin rights let me know, I'm happy to 
help.

Regards,
Dave

On Mar 9, 2013, at 2:23 PM, Kay Schenk wrote:

 Right now, for top level categories on cwiki, we have the following:
 
 
   -  
 https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Release-Translate-Plan?moved=true#
Project 
 Planninghttps://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Project+Planning
   -  
 https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Release-Translate-Plan?moved=true#
User Documentation
 Planhttps://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/User+Documentation+Plan
-  
 https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Release-Translate-Plan?moved=true#
Marketing 
 Planninghttps://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Marketing+Planning
-
Development Snapshot
 Buildshttps://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Development+Snapshot+Builds
-  
 https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Release-Translate-Plan?moved=true#
Project 
 Reportinghttps://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Project+Reporting
-  
 https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Release-Translate-Plan?moved=true#
Localization
 Planninghttps://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Localization+Planning
-  
 https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Release-Translate-Plan?moved=true#
QA 
 Planninghttps://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/QA+Planning
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 https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Release-Translate-Plan?moved=true#
AOO4 
 Brainstorminghttps://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO4+Brainstorming
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 https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Release-Translate-Plan?moved=true#
Board 
 Reportshttps://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Board+Reports
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 https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Release-Translate-Plan?moved=true#
Directory of
 Volunteershttps://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Directory+of+Volunteers
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 https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Release-Translate-Plan?moved=true#
Archive https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Archive
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 https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Release-Translate-Plan?moved=true#
Strategic 
 Planshttps://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Strategic+Plans
 
 Now for releases, release planning, we have the AOO 3.4 Release Plan is its
 own subcategory under Project Planning.
 
 However, other Release Plans are under a sub-category called Releases.
 
 Are there any objections to promoting Releases to a top-level category
 and put the various version release plans under that (including 3.4)?
 
 I  must  be in a spring cleaning mood! :}
 
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 MzK
 
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Board report April: infrastructure wishlist

2013-03-09 Thread Andrea Pescetti
The periodic report to the Apache Board about the status of the 
OpenOffice project and community is due in about one month. You can find 
an initial draft of the April report at

https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/2013+Apr
but it is almost completely empty and not worth reading yet.

Remember that we have rarely used it this way so far, but the Board 
report is also an occasion to officially notify the Apache Board about 
our needs: the Board can decide how to allocate resources, but they need 
our input for that.


Seeing the many recent discussions about infrastructure (wiki, forum, 
buildbots, Pootle, domains, certificates...) I believe we should use the 
report to make a sort of Infrastructure wishlist. The aim is to avoid 
annoying the Infrastructure staff and volunteers with requests; we 
should tell the Board what our priorities are, so that they can use 
these priorities in allocating resources.


So, feel free to discuss the Infrastructure wishlist here and I will 
then include it in 
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/2013+Apr for 
consideration by the Apache Board (we will probably ask Infra to take a 
look too before sending).


Regards,
  Andrea.

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