Re: QUESTIONS RE: Maintenance of AOO Wiki and Forum
On 17 August 2015 at 23:23, Dennis E. Hamilton orc...@apache.org wrote: Thanks Tony, this reminds me of some questions that would help us understand what is involved. These questions are anyone knowledgable of the current arrangements: I see four levels of support to wikis and forums: 1. User Account and Content Administration I believe this is handed. Does anyone believe it is not? this is done by the wiki administrators. 2. Administering the Running Service That is, a server administrator for the service (not necessarily the host) Is this done? Do we need a replacement or an expansion here? What are prerequisite qualifications for being able to do this. I do that at the moment. I would strongly suggest at least an expansion. 3. Administrating the Server that hosts the Service I assume this is where one deals with Ubuntu upgrades and such, whether the server is real or virtual. Is this provided by the project? Do we need a replacement/expansion here from within the project? Again, what are prerequisite qualifications? Yes it is provided by the project, and actually it is extremely hard to divided 2 and 3, they are interconnected. I strongly suggest at least an expansion, also because the project might have wishes which I would not see, are be able to facilitate (e.g. change the login configuration). Sysadm experience brings you a long way, otherwise it is not hard to read up on Mediawiki, mysql, ATS and Ubuntu. 4. I assume hardware IT support is not the business of the project, and changing boxes is a different deal. Yes? It is vm´s and not physical boxes. At the moment one of the biggest problems is how to recreate them if they break. Infra nowadays use Puppet for that purpose. The Vms are defined in puppet2 but not puppet3. I suspect this is known. I don't know if the necessary information is anywhere in project materials (haven't looked). It is in the mail archives and on the vms themself. This is an area of ignorance for me. I am not raising my hand. I just want to ensure that the necessary requirements are understood and we know what is and is not adequately covered. - Dennis -Original Message- From: Tony Stevenson [mailto:t...@pc-tony.com] Sent: Monday, August 17, 2015 12:54 To: dev@openoffice.apache.org Subject: Re: Maintenance of AOO Wiki and Forum On Fri, 14 Aug 2015, at 01:31 PM, jan i wrote: Hi. The AOO Forum vm could do with an upgrade to Ubuntu 14.04 and be defined in the new puppet structure. Defining it in the new puppet structure has the advantage that Infra can roll a new vm in case of problems, and thereby reducing downtime. The AOO Wiki vm is in strong need of a reconfiguration and update (Ubuntu 14.04 see above). Currently there is a ATS running on the same vm in front of the mediawiki (django) application. The ATS veersion is no longer supported by the traffic server project. Running it on a separate vm (or even as the HTPPS proxy) has a lot of merit, but it has not been done. As I am reducing my engagement in the project, this might be a good time for a new maintainer to step up. The actual maintenance is about 1 hour pr month. Can I take this opportunity to remind the community that if this service fails to be maintained appropriately it will be turned off, or made unavailable by Infra until such time it is brought up to date and managed. Tony@ I assume you by maintained really think of security, Infra do not care which version of e.g. mediawiki the project uses, as long as there are no known security risks. AIUI this was the agreement that we had with the project when it was handed over to enable you to manage yourselves. I can confirm, that is what I have been told when I started, and how I handled it. rgds jan i. Many thanks, -- Tony - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Blocked from downloading OpenOffice :-(
I have cheerfully used OpenOffice for around eight years. Last week I was forced to retire my computer with Vista and purchased a new one with Windows 10. The problem I'm having is it won't allow me to download OpenOffice no matter what I do. Could you please help me? Thank you,Arline Buckley Arline Psalm 18:2 The LORD is my rock, and my fortress, and my deliverer; my God, my strength, in whom I will trust; my buckler, and the horn of my salvation, and my high tower.
Re: Blocked from downloading OpenOffice :-(
On Tue, 18 Aug 2015 18:18:53 + (UTC) Arline thibba...@yahoo.com wrote: I have cheerfully used OpenOffice for around eight years. Last week I was forced to retire my computer with Vista and purchased a new one with Windows 10. The problem I'm having is it won't allow me to download OpenOffice no matter what I do. Could you please help me? Thank you,Arline Buckley What does it tell you? You should only download through www.openoffice.org/download which will redirect you to SourceForge servers where the files are stored. Your selected download will start in five or so seconds without need to click on anything else - DO NOT click on anything else. If your browser pops up a window asking what you want to do with the download - select Save; this window is OK. -- Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Others Pontificate the future of Apache OpenOffice
This blog post was just brought to my attention, https://blogs.gnome.org/uraeus/2015/08/17/an-open-letter-to-apache-foundation-and-apache-openoffice-team/. From my perspective, the Apache OpenOffice team is found in this dev@ community, where the committers and the PMC are successive subsets that are able to act in various ways based on exclusively-volunteer efforts. Please keep that in mind. It is important to read the comments there. If one has further questions or comments of Christian Schaller or the other commenters, please make them there, not here. I have heard the proposal expressed by Christian Schaller from others as well. I also notice that the facts of the matter are distorted in the retellings. The comments on that blog by Apache Software Foundation Director and AOO PMC member Jim [Jagielski] provide important counterbalance. The history of the splits from OpenOffice.org and the establishment of Apache OpenOffice is long past (in Internet terms). There are no do-overs and today's situation is what it is. The question for the project is, as always, ways to move forward. It is a question that we are continuously asking ourselves on the Project Management Committee and it needs to be considered in the broad community as well. Constructive suggestions and requests for any factual details are welcome here. - Dennis FURTHER OBSERVATIONS I find the proposal by Schaller and some commenters to be simplistic. I find them unworkable (or silly, such as coming up with an external petition) in terms of addressing the needs of stakeholders in what Apache OpenOffice supplies. There must be serious consideration of support to downstream developers (not so prevalent) and the extensive dependence of users (very significant with 80% of them using Windows). The dependence on resources and volunteer services provided by the Apache OpenOffice project must not be treated lightly. At the same time it is important for us, here, to look at what the sustaining capacity of the project is, and how to employ it the most effectively. PLEASE: External perceptions can be important and the place to discuss them is where they are presented. For here, it is more valuable to discuss the actual state of AOO *as*such*, and only that, since it is all that we have anything to say about here. Constructive proposals with offers to work on them, based on our capabilities are what matter. Questions on what our capacities are and where the day-to-day attention is are also welcome. For facts, this is the place. For pontification and why can't just ... not so much. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: [VOTE] Dennis Hamilton as new AOO Chair.
[x] +1, I want Dennis Hamilton as new Chair - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: [VOTE] Dennis Hamilton as new AOO Chair.
[X] +1, Dennis Hamilton as new Chair This message optimized for indexing by NSA PRISM On Tue, Aug 18, 2015 at 12:37 PM, Andrew Rist andrew.r...@oracle.com wrote: [X] +1, Dennis Hamilton as new Chair On 8/15/2015 11:57 PM, jan i wrote: This is a call for a formal vote among the 1 candidate for the AOO Chair role. Due to the fact that there are only 1 candidate we could use lazy consensus, but since some persons might be against that, we will use majority vote, as if there was multiple candidates. Voting rules are as follows: - Only PMC votes are binding, but everybody are welcome to vote - The nominee with the most +1 (deducted -1) gets elected - VOTE runs until Sunday August 23th - As outgoing Chair, I will send resolution to Board August 23th. Please vote [ ] +1, I want Dennis Hamilton as new Chair [ ] +0, I do not care if Dennis Hamilton becomes new Chair [ ] -1, I am against Dennis Hamilton becomes new chair (out of curtesy, please add another suggestion). Have fun voting. rgds jan i. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: [VOTE] Dennis Hamilton as new AOO Chair.
[X] +1, Dennis Hamilton as new Chair On 8/15/2015 11:57 PM, jan i wrote: This is a call for a formal vote among the 1 candidate for the AOO Chair role. Due to the fact that there are only 1 candidate we could use lazy consensus, but since some persons might be against that, we will use majority vote, as if there was multiple candidates. Voting rules are as follows: - Only PMC votes are binding, but everybody are welcome to vote - The nominee with the most +1 (deducted -1) gets elected - VOTE runs until Sunday August 23th - As outgoing Chair, I will send resolution to Board August 23th. Please vote [ ] +1, I want Dennis Hamilton as new Chair [ ] +0, I do not care if Dennis Hamilton becomes new Chair [ ] -1, I am against Dennis Hamilton becomes new chair (out of curtesy, please add another suggestion). Have fun voting. rgds jan i. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
