Re: [QUESTION] Usability of Non-Optional Java Dependencies

[Damjan Jovanovic]

On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 11:22 PM, Patricia Shanahan  wrote:

> On 10/29/2015 12:20 PM, Damjan Jovanovic wrote:
>
>> On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 7:44 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton 
>> wrote:
>>
> ...
>
>> Three paths come to mind.
>>>
>>>   A. Remove the Java dependencies.
>>>
>>>
>> Impossible. JDBC drivers for example, are the lifeblood of Base.
>>
>>
> It depends on what you mean by "Impossible". For example, the existence of
> the JDBC drivers proves that it is possible to implement interfaces with
> all the capabilities of JDBC without depending on it. On the other hand, it
> may be impossible to implement the JDBC features Base needs in a reasonable
> time with the available resources.
>
>
We don't develop JDBC drivers, third parties do. This means we don't even
always have source code for JDBC drivers available to port to something
else like SDBC or ODBC. Our default database type is HSQLDB, for which only
the JDBC driver supports all the features - the ODBC driver for it is only
alpha status, only for version 2.x (we use 1.8), and it doesn't support
database metadata (which I am pretty sure Base needs).


> My questions are:
>
> 1. What is the cleanest, lowest risk, way to get from here (Java
> dependent) to there (Java independent) in each area?
>
> 2. How much work would it be?
>
> 3. Does AOO have that much development effort available, and if so is it
> the best use of that effort?
>
> If we continue with optional Java, I hope making it more convenient and
> unobtrusive for users, it is not an all-or-nothing situation. Each


Absolutely.


> feature that is converted is another feature for non-Java users.
>
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Possible Mac problem 4.1.2

[Rory O'Farrell]

There is a report on en-Forum of a possible problem with Macs not opening 
existing database tables directly.
https://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=13=80059

Perhaps some developer Mac users would check?

My very quick test showed that they open on 4.1.2 on Xubuntu 15.10; it would be 
good to have confirmation that this is a Mac only problem and that it does not 
extend  to Windows or BSD

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Re: Wrong version number on the German download page

[FR web forum]

Same thing for french index: http://www.openoffice.org/fr
I modified this page for 4.1.2 announcement.
Anybody to commit it?
Thanks 

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Re: Possible Mac problem 4.1.2

[FR web forum]

Possible cross problem with mailmerge function.
A french end-user on MacOS report a crash.
Steps to reproduce:
1) Open a doc with datasource connected and database fields
2) Menu File > Print 
3) Confirm "Yes" at "print a form letter?"
4) Crash: the "Mail merge" dialogbox don't appear

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Re: Thank you!

[Roberto Galoppini]

2015-10-29 23:28 GMT+01:00 Andrea Pescetti :

> RA Stehmann wrote:
>
>> Very special thanks go to Andrea.
>>
>
> Thanks! But truth is, thanks must go me as much as to everybody else.
> Dozens, maybe even hundreds, of people spent days (and, more often, nights)
> working to make this release happen. A number of them are credited at
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.1.2 but there
> are many, many more who helped and it couldn't be otherwise: a release is a
> community effort, not the work of a restricted group pf people.
>

Thank you to ALL of them, indeed. And a big thank you to you Andrea, either
as a PMC or Release Manager you always rock!

Roberto



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>   Andrea.
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Re: Settings

[Marcus]

Am 10/30/2015 03:06 PM, schrieb Olle Mårtensson:

I am trying to download Open Office to my iMac.
I get a message that my settings prevent the download.
What kind of settings could this mean, and how do I change them?


when you don't know which settings are meant (because there is no 
detailed message on the screen), then of course we don't them either. ;-)


Let's start from the beginning:
- download only from "http://www.openoffice.org/download/;
- choose the favorite download options
- click on the green button

When you still get problems:
- try at a different time, maybe there is a temporary problem at the
  mirror(s)
- enable cookies (normally not needed but maybe it's helping)
- make sure JavaScript is enabled
- if possible, try with another browser

If all doesn't help you can use a direct link but you have to browse a 
bit on your own to come to the wished download file:

http://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/files/4.1.2/binaries/

HTH

Marcus


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Re: Wrong version number on the German download page

[Kay Schenk]

On 10/30/2015 03:16 AM, FR web forum wrote:
> Same thing for french index: http://www.openoffice.org/fr
> I modified this page for 4.1.2 announcement.
> Anybody to commit it?
> Thanks 

Did you do this through the CMS? We used to get notifications of
changes like this and then could commit them using a link with the
notification. But I don't see any notification in "dev" right now. :(

I will look into this later today.

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MzK

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 with a single step.”
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Re: Wrong version number on the German download page

[FR web forum]

>Did you do this through the CMS? 
No, by SVN

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Re: Wrong version number on the German download page

[Kay Schenk]

On 10/30/2015 10:05 AM, FR web forum wrote:
>> Did you do this through the CMS? 
> No, by SVN

Ok, well something is not working. Can you use the CMS applet to
make your change instead? This should trigger an email to "dev" so
we can get it committed.


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Re: Settings

[Larry Gusaas]

On 2015-10-30, 8:06 AM Olle Mårtensson wrote concerning "Settings":

I am trying to download Open Office to my iMac.
I get a message that my settings prevent the download.
What kind of settings could this mean, and how do I change them?


Since you didn't state the exact message you got I am guessing that Gatekeeper is the problem. 
See the following links.


   *GateKeeper*
   *AOO Release Notes *
   
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.1.1+Release+Notes#AOO4.1.1ReleaseNotes-KnownIssues

   *OS X: About GateKeeper *
   http://support.apple.com/kb/HT5290
   http://support.apple.com/kb/PH14370

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update feed from 4.1.1 to 4.1.2 ready to go...

[Kay Schenk]

see issue: https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=126612

There's an update feed from 4.1.1 to 4.1.2 ready to go whenever
we're ready for this.

Commit the attachment to (viewvc version):

http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/openoffice/updates-site/trunk/aoo411/check.Update?view=log

I will work on the others and attach to the issue over teh next few
days.

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Re: Wrong version number on the German download page

[Marcus]

Am 10/30/2015 06:10 PM, schrieb Kay Schenk:

On 10/30/2015 10:05 AM, FR web forum wrote:

Did you do this through the CMS?

No, by SVN


Ok, well something is not working. Can you use the CMS applet to
make your change instead? This should trigger an email to "dev" so
we can get it committed.


it took a moment for the staging build to finish but my attempt was 
successful. So, now 4.1.2 is featured in the headline.


Marcus


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