[GitHub] [openoffice] cbmarcum commented on pull request #164: Update EditEngine code to use 32 bit paragraph storage

2023-01-07 Thread GitBox


cbmarcum commented on PR #164:
URL: https://github.com/apache/openoffice/pull/164#issuecomment-1374548388

   > > Copy/Paste from Firefox to Calc trunk and this PR all 2 rows for both
   > 
   > There is no way all 2 pasted successfully over HTML on trunk. Either 
the transfer format wasn't HTML, or you tested something other than trunk.
   
   Hi Damjan,
   You are correct. I found out what was wrong with my test.
   I had copied from a Firefox outside of the VM and pasted to AOO inside the 
VM. This opened a Text Import dialog and did import all 2 rows in both 
trunk and the PR.
   
   I can confirm that copying from Firefox and pasting into AOO within the same 
VM results in:
   trunk getting to row 13106 and inserting a lot (or all) of the rest into 
column D of the next row.
   The PR build takes all 2 rows.
   Both without using the Text import dialog.
   Sorry for the confusion.
   


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2023-01-07 Thread Dave
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Since the project doesn't engage in any marketing activity and those few
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fully justifiable reason for doing otherwise, we shut down the "spam
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[GitHub] [openoffice] DamjanJovanovic commented on pull request #164: Update EditEngine code to use 32 bit paragraph storage

2023-01-07 Thread GitBox


DamjanJovanovic commented on PR #164:
URL: https://github.com/apache/openoffice/pull/164#issuecomment-137456

   > Copy/Paste from Firefox to Calc trunk and this PR all 2 rows for both
   
   There is no way all 2 pasted successfully over HTML on trunk. Either the 
transfer format wasn't HTML, or you tested something other than trunk.


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[GitHub] [openoffice] cbmarcum commented on pull request #164: Update EditEngine code to use 32 bit paragraph storage

2023-01-07 Thread GitBox


cbmarcum commented on PR #164:
URL: https://github.com/apache/openoffice/pull/164#issuecomment-1374528032

   My latest testing:
   File > Open 
   set file type filter to HTML Document (OpenOffice Calc) (*.html;*.htm)
   
   trunk got to row 13106
   with PR 164 got all 2 rows
   
   ---
   Copy/Paste from Firefox to Calc
   trunk and this PR 
   all 2 rows for both 
   ---
   Copy/Paste from Firefox to Writer
   trunk and this PR 
   all 2 rows as tab separated values per row.
   


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Re: Noch ein Termin - T-DOSE 2023

2023-01-07 Thread Matthias Seidel
Moin,

Ich hatte ja aus gegebenem Anlass das eine AOO-Poster aktualisiert und
drucken lassen:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/498cohi0fiv7dik/AOO_poster_de_color_240822.pdf?dl=0

Die Druckqualität gefällt mir, soll ich noch ein paar nachordern und zu
euch liefern lassen?

Der Stand-PC (bzw. die Windows-VM) müsste ja auch mal wieder
aktualisiert werden...

Gruß,

   Matthias

Am 07.01.23 um 15:10 schrieb Dr. Michael Stehmann:
> Hallo,
>
> die T-DOSE ist eine freie, jährliche Veranstaltung in den
> Niederlanden, um die Nutzung und Entwicklung Freier Software zu promoten.
>
> Im Jahr 2023 kehrt sie auf die Agenda zurück.
>
> Sie findet am 22. und 23. April 2023 in Geldrop bei Eindhoven
>
> https://t-dose.org/
>
> Auch wir haben dort (wieder) einen Stand.
>
> https://t-dose.org/2023/projects/
>
> Die T-DOSE ist eine sehr übersichtliche Veranstaltung mit
> hochklassigen Vorträge und einer geradezu familiären Atmosphäre. Und
> Eindhoven ist fast nicht weiter weg als St. Augustin.
>
> Da Mechtilde und ich werden wieder den Stand betreuen, aber Helfer
> sind willkommen.
>
> Mit freundlichem Gruß
> Michael



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T-DOSE 2023

2023-01-07 Thread Dr. Michael Stehmann

Hello,

T-DOSE 2023 will be held on the 22nd and 23rd of April 2023, at a new 
location the Weeffabriek in Geldrop (near Eindhoven).


T-DOSE is a free and yearly event held in The Netherlands to promote use 
and development of Free Software. During this event, Free Software 
projects, developers and visitors can exchange ideas and knowledge.


https://t-dose.org/

Apache OpenOffice will have a booth at T-DOSE again.

https://t-dose.org/2023/projects/

Mechtilde and I will maintain this booth, but helpers are cordially welcome.

Kind regards
Michael


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Noch ein Termin - T-DOSE 2023

2023-01-07 Thread Dr. Michael Stehmann

Hallo,

die T-DOSE ist eine freie, jährliche Veranstaltung in den Niederlanden, 
um die Nutzung und Entwicklung Freier Software zu promoten.


Im Jahr 2023 kehrt sie auf die Agenda zurück.

Sie findet am 22. und 23. April 2023 in Geldrop bei Eindhoven

https://t-dose.org/

Auch wir haben dort (wieder) einen Stand.

https://t-dose.org/2023/projects/

Die T-DOSE ist eine sehr übersichtliche Veranstaltung mit hochklassigen 
Vorträge und einer geradezu familiären Atmosphäre. Und Eindhoven ist 
fast nicht weiter weg als St. Augustin.


Da Mechtilde und ich werden wieder den Stand betreuen, aber Helfer sind 
willkommen.


Mit freundlichem Gruß
Michael


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Re: ByteString vs Strbuf vs OString

2023-01-07 Thread Damjan Jovanovic
On Sat, Jan 7, 2023 at 9:51 AM Peter Kovacs  wrote:

> Hi all,
>
>
> I have an emotional issue and I need some help.
>
> I think the classes mentioned in subject are all crap. They are all ugly
> and I do not want to use any of them.
>
> I would like to remove them. And replace them with
>
>
>   std::basic_stringstream
>
>
>   std::string
>
>
> But this is a huge and fundamental change. What I would like to do is to
> hollow out the classes we use, one by one, until everything is using std
> classes or can cast to. Then remove the now obsolete classes within the
> code.
>
> any objections?
>
>
Hi

Please leave them alone. They all have their purpose, and they work in very
specific ways to accomplish their tasks.

The main/tools String with its 16 bit length, saves space for the large
number of strings in Calc cells.

The main/sal OString and OUString are 32 bit and copy-on-write, like Java's
java.lang.String. Also UNO serializes to and from OUString for C++.

I do agree that string type changes will be necessary in some cases. For
example if we want to increase our 16 bit limit on maximum paragraph size
to 32 bits, we will probably have to change the tools String to a longer
string type.

The real crap classes that should be replaced ASAP are the 16 bit main/svl
PTRARR, which I replaced in 2 places in
https://github.com/apache/openoffice/pull/164, but which is used in another
53 places (
http://opengrok.openoffice.org/search?project=trunk=SV_DECL_PTRARR==full).
Many 16 bit limits come from that class. And I now discovered another 22
usages of SV_DECL_PTRARR_SORT. The problem is, that has many knock-on
effects, as is clear from the size of my PR.

We also have a bunch of primitive pre-STL main/tools classes like Container
and List, written around 1994 and generally not very good at anything,
including performance.

Yes, the way C++ is used in OpenOffice is unusual and foreign to everyone.
But eventually it makes sense. Start with one of the more recently
developed modules, like the OOXML filter in main/oox, or the Base
application in main/dbaccess, which were written closer to 2010 and are
much cleaner, easier to read and understand, use STL containers, etc. I've
been improving that OOXML filter lately and could help you get started.

Regards
Damjan


Re: Open letter to @Dave Fisher and @Pescetti.

2023-01-07 Thread casalva
Maybe my English has let me down, I didn't mean you didn't do anything, but 
there are no results yet.
I know that we are all volunteers, including me.
Regards.
charlie

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Da: "Andrea Pescetti" 
A: "dev" 
Inviato: Sabato, 7 gennaio 2023 7:26:56
Oggetto: Re: Open letter to @Dave Fisher and @Pescetti.

casa...@email.it wrote:
> For months I have been asking for help to fix a registration problem on the 
> Italian AOO forum. You both promised me you'd step in, but so far you haven't.

We are all volunteers and we do what we can.

The fact that you didn't see anything doesn't mean that we did nothing.

I will give updates in the appropriate threads (not this one) within a 
few days.

Regards,
   Andrea.

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