Re: [PROPOSAL] Licenses and Oracle texts.

[Andrea Pescetti]

On 19/12/2012 Pedro Giffuni wrote:

Da: Andrew Rist
As for the 'Oracle Report Builder' ones, does that require more detailed
surgery?   What is the equivalent product now?  Asking a larger audience...

Abandonware. Not sure if Ariel had something in the works to rescue it
as an extension.


By coincidence, there's an ongoing discussion about these extensions on 
the users list:

http://markmail.org/message/fw3ctxboymibu6zh?q=+list:org%2Eapache%2Eincubator%2Eooo-users

Regards,
  Andrea.

Re: [UX] Design Exploration - Task Pane Content Panel User Interface Design

[Xin Li]

Rob, thanks for post the design on Facebook.

Yes, I agree with you that it could be a good way to engage with our users.
I see there already have more than 10 responses. Wish will get more. :)

2012/12/20 Rob Weir 

> On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 2:22 AM, Xin Li  wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I have been exploring on Task Pane framework and content panel design.  I
> > have post the 9 proposals on AOO UX wiki.
> >
>
> I put the question up on our Facebook page:
> https://www.facebook.com/ApacheOO/posts/395424523873910
>
> 5 responses in less than 30 minutes.  I think this could be a good way
> to engage with our users.
>
> -Rob
>
>
> > See:
> >
> http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/AOO_UX_Design_Exploration_-_Task_Pane_Content_Panel_-_User_Interface_Design_Proposals#Task_Pane_Content_Panel_-_UX_Design_propoals
> >
> > Capture any thoughts or feedback in the discussion section of the wiki
> > page. Thanks.
> >
> > <
> http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/AOO_UX_Design_Exploration_-_Task_Pane_Content_Panel_-_User_Interface_Design_Proposals#Task_Pane_Content_Panel_-_UX_Design_propoals
> >
> > --
> > Best regards,
> > Xin Li   李欣
> > UX designer
>



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Re: [PROPOSAL] New Apache OpenOffice 4 logo proposals...

[Shenfeng Liu]

imacat,
  Your comments are so professional! :-)
  Personally I like this logo design more comparing to other candidates in
wiki.
Thanks Michael!
  While we may also want to update the app icon design as the next step for
consistent L&F...

- Shenfeng (Simon)




2012/12/20 imacat 

> Some honest thoughts:
>
>  1. These flat 3D plates feel a little weird.  The lights of the
> plates has the focus effect, but the lights of the plates have not.
>
>  2. I cannot see the connection of these plates with our four
> components easily, as the colors of Writer, Calc, Impress and Base are
> not Blue, Orange, Green and Purple.  And we have other components such
> as Math and Draw.
>
>  3. The directions of the lights are contradictory.  The lights of
> the orb come from above, while the lights of the plates (and also the
> plate of the orb) come from right.
>
> But still, thanks you very much for this great effort.
>
> On 2012/12/20 09:33, Michael Acevedo said:
> > Greetings to the AOO Team!
> >
> > Hello, after a few months of inactivity I've decided to get back in touch
> > with the AOO community. First, congratulations to the AOO team on
> > a successful graduation into a top-level Apache project from the Apache
> > Incubator.
> >
> > Now the reason on why I am writing this email is to formally submit a
> logo
> > proposal for the next version of the Apache OpenOffice 4.X logo.
> > Previously, I submitted an initial logo on the Apache OpenOffice Google+
> > community but I went back to the drawing board and created a second
> version
> > of the logo that both pays respect to the previous Apache OpenOffice orb,
> > but modernizes the look of the overall logo by adding 4 colored squares
> > that represent the four corners of our office suite (Writer, Calc,
> Impress,
> > and Base) and utilizing a streamlined font.
> >
> > Without further introductions, below I present my official submission for
> > the Apache OpenOffice 4.X logo.
> >
> > This first logo, is the proposed official logo for the project that would
> > be used for our webpage and some other materials.
> >
> >
> https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-lETVSrwcgJc/UNJpH6G1sxI/ABg/JnpNrXdRgUo/s653/AOO%25204%2520LOGO%2520v2-5%2520Small%2520copy.jpg
> >
> > There's a secondary logo, which is basically the same logo but changes
> the
> > proportion of the OpenOffice orb making it better suited for the splash
> > screen that appears at the launch of the application.
> >
> >
> https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-uy8gU24uBZw/UNJpH8UiKiI/ABk/xfXTQjO8iQg/s912/AOO%25204%2520LOGO%2520v2-2.png
> >
> > Hope you guys like it and Happy holidays!
> >
>
>
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Re: [PROPOSAL] New Apache OpenOffice 4 logo proposals...

[Michael Acevedo]

Good Evening Imacat,

 Here's my personal insight on the logo decisions when it comes to the
amount of squares and coloring scheme. The first is that I tried for hours
how to integrate six squares into the logo and the problem that arose was
that the logo looked too crowded. As a result I had to strike a compromise,
pick the four applications or modules that embody an office suite in
general which are the word processor, spreadsheet, presentation module, and
database creator. OpenOffice is the only office suite that comes to memory
that does have a formula editor and a radically unique graphics drawing
program (closest analogue is Microsoft Publisher but Draw is a different
animal).

 Moving now to the color scheme, the colors for the squares that
represent the office suite core components were inspired upon the AOO start
center which has icons for the word, spreadsheet, presentation, and
database modules. If you look closely, each of the icons there have a color
code, the Writer document icon has blue accents, Calc document icon has
green accents, Impress icon has orange accents, and the Base icon has
violet accents. Therefore, it was a logical decision to color the squares
accordingly.

 When it comes to the lighting of the logo... I beg to differ. I'll
need to sleep over that to see whether or not it is worth considering
tweaking the lighting. In my honest opinion, I think the current lighting
works fine for the logo.

Thanks for the feedback.



On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 11:31 PM, imacat  wrote:

> Some honest thoughts:
>
>  1. These flat 3D plates feel a little weird.  The lights of the
> plates has the focus effect, but the lights of the plates have not.
>
>  2. I cannot see the connection of these plates with our four
> components easily, as the colors of Writer, Calc, Impress and Base are
> not Blue, Orange, Green and Purple.  And we have other components such
> as Math and Draw.
>
>  3. The directions of the lights are contradictory.  The lights of
> the orb come from above, while the lights of the plates (and also the
> plate of the orb) come from right.
>
> But still, thanks you very much for this great effort.
>
> On 2012/12/20 09:33, Michael Acevedo said:
> > Greetings to the AOO Team!
> >
> > Hello, after a few months of inactivity I've decided to get back in touch
> > with the AOO community. First, congratulations to the AOO team on
> > a successful graduation into a top-level Apache project from the Apache
> > Incubator.
> >
> > Now the reason on why I am writing this email is to formally submit a
> logo
> > proposal for the next version of the Apache OpenOffice 4.X logo.
> > Previously, I submitted an initial logo on the Apache OpenOffice Google+
> > community but I went back to the drawing board and created a second
> version
> > of the logo that both pays respect to the previous Apache OpenOffice orb,
> > but modernizes the look of the overall logo by adding 4 colored squares
> > that represent the four corners of our office suite (Writer, Calc,
> Impress,
> > and Base) and utilizing a streamlined font.
> >
> > Without further introductions, below I present my official submission for
> > the Apache OpenOffice 4.X logo.
> >
> > This first logo, is the proposed official logo for the project that would
> > be used for our webpage and some other materials.
> >
> >
> https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-lETVSrwcgJc/UNJpH6G1sxI/ABg/JnpNrXdRgUo/s653/AOO%25204%2520LOGO%2520v2-5%2520Small%2520copy.jpg
> >
> > There's a secondary logo, which is basically the same logo but changes
> the
> > proportion of the OpenOffice orb making it better suited for the splash
> > screen that appears at the launch of the application.
> >
> >
> https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-uy8gU24uBZw/UNJpH8UiKiI/ABk/xfXTQjO8iQg/s912/AOO%25204%2520LOGO%2520v2-2.png
> >
> > Hope you guys like it and Happy holidays!
> >
>
>
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Re: [PROPOSAL] New Apache OpenOffice 4 logo proposals...

[imacat]

Some honest thoughts:

 1. These flat 3D plates feel a little weird.  The lights of the
plates has the focus effect, but the lights of the plates have not.

 2. I cannot see the connection of these plates with our four
components easily, as the colors of Writer, Calc, Impress and Base are
not Blue, Orange, Green and Purple.  And we have other components such
as Math and Draw.

 3. The directions of the lights are contradictory.  The lights of
the orb come from above, while the lights of the plates (and also the
plate of the orb) come from right.

But still, thanks you very much for this great effort.

On 2012/12/20 09:33, Michael Acevedo said:
> Greetings to the AOO Team!
> 
> Hello, after a few months of inactivity I've decided to get back in touch
> with the AOO community. First, congratulations to the AOO team on
> a successful graduation into a top-level Apache project from the Apache
> Incubator.
> 
> Now the reason on why I am writing this email is to formally submit a logo
> proposal for the next version of the Apache OpenOffice 4.X logo.
> Previously, I submitted an initial logo on the Apache OpenOffice Google+
> community but I went back to the drawing board and created a second version
> of the logo that both pays respect to the previous Apache OpenOffice orb,
> but modernizes the look of the overall logo by adding 4 colored squares
> that represent the four corners of our office suite (Writer, Calc, Impress,
> and Base) and utilizing a streamlined font.
> 
> Without further introductions, below I present my official submission for
> the Apache OpenOffice 4.X logo.
> 
> This first logo, is the proposed official logo for the project that would
> be used for our webpage and some other materials.
> 
> https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-lETVSrwcgJc/UNJpH6G1sxI/ABg/JnpNrXdRgUo/s653/AOO%25204%2520LOGO%2520v2-5%2520Small%2520copy.jpg
> 
> There's a secondary logo, which is basically the same logo but changes the
> proportion of the OpenOffice orb making it better suited for the splash
> screen that appears at the launch of the application.
> 
> https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-uy8gU24uBZw/UNJpH8UiKiI/ABk/xfXTQjO8iQg/s912/AOO%25204%2520LOGO%2520v2-2.png
> 
> Hope you guys like it and Happy holidays!
> 


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Re: [PROPOSAL] New Apache OpenOffice 4 logo proposals...

[Michael Acevedo]

Thanks for your feedback Pedro!

I am happy you like it...


On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 8:43 PM, Pedro Giffuni  wrote:

> I like it!
>
> cheers,
>
> Pedro.
>
>
>
> >
> > Da: Michael Acevedo 
> >A: Apache OpenOffice ; Apache OpenOffice
> Marketing 
> >Inviato: Mercoledì 19 Dicembre 2012 20:33
> >Oggetto: [PROPOSAL] New Apache OpenOffice 4 logo proposals...
> >
> >Greetings to the AOO Team!
> >
> >Hello, after a few months of inactivity I've decided to get back in touch
> >with the AOO community. First, congratulations to the AOO team on
> >a successful graduation into a top-level Apache project from the Apache
> >Incubator.
> >
> >Now the reason on why I am writing this email is to formally submit a logo
> >proposal for the next version of the Apache OpenOffice 4.X logo.
> >Previously, I submitted an initial logo on the Apache OpenOffice Google+
> >community but I went back to the drawing board and created a second
> version
> >of the logo that both pays respect to the previous Apache OpenOffice orb,
> >but modernizes the look of the overall logo by adding 4 colored squares
> >that represent the four corners of our office suite (Writer, Calc,
> Impress,
> >and Base) and utilizing a streamlined font.
> >
> >Without further introductions, below I present my official submission for
> >the Apache OpenOffice 4.X logo.
> >
> >This first logo, is the proposed official logo for the project that would
> >be used for our webpage and some other materials.
> >
> >
> https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-lETVSrwcgJc/UNJpH6G1sxI/ABg/JnpNrXdRgUo/s653/AOO%25204%2520LOGO%2520v2-5%2520Small%2520copy.jpg
> >
> >There's a secondary logo, which is basically the same logo but changes the
> >proportion of the OpenOffice orb making it better suited for the splash
> >screen that appears at the launch of the application.
> >
> >
> https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-uy8gU24uBZw/UNJpH8UiKiI/ABk/xfXTQjO8iQg/s912/AOO%25204%2520LOGO%2520v2-2.png
> >
> >Hope you guys like it and Happy holidays!
> >
> >--
> >Best,
> >Michael
> >
> >
> >
>



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Re: [Release candicate] mwiki, test

[imacat]

I did not test the math plug-in, but I found no problem.
Thank you for your great effort!

On 2012/12/20 06:23, janI said:
> Finally I got mwiki upgraded and ready for test.
> 
> version 1.20.2 of mediawiki, with AOO skin and a copy of the database is
> available for testing:
> 
> wikitest.openoffice.org
> 
> It will prompt for a user/password (htaccess), which is:  wikitest/wikitest
> (just used so nobody thinks it is a production wiki).
> 
> There are several changes against to current wiki, here are some of the
> important ones:
> - New editor (I ended up using the standard editor)
> - many extensions are now part of the core (it requires that especially
> creative user pages needs testing)
> - special gatcha for "create account", actually it is just a reuse of an
> extension that was already loaded
> 
> I have done a "run and go" test, but we need it tested a lot more before it
> goes into production.
> 
> My proposal is to leave wikitest running until 31/12/2012, and anybody who
> finds a problem (or a feature request) please make a bugzilla report, that
> makes it easier to control.
> 
> Beginning january and once all severe bugzilla bugs for wikitest has been
> solved, I will ask for a vote on replacing the current wiki.
> 
> have a nice time testing.
> Jan I
> 


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Re: OpenOffice Writer wins Linux Journal's Readers' Choice Award for Best Single Office Program

[chengjh]

Good News,Congratulations!!!

On Thu, Dec 20, 2012 at 1:33 AM, Rob Weir  wrote:

> For 3rd year in a row, OpenOffice Writer wins Linux Journal's Readers'
> Choice Award for Best Single Office Program.  Congratulations,
> everyone!
>
> http://www.linuxjournal.com/slideshow/readers-choice-2012?page=10
>
> Regards,
>
> -Rob
>



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Re: OpenOffice Writer wins Linux Journal's Readers' Choice Award for Best Single Office Program

[Shenfeng Liu]

Congratulations!

2012/12/20 Albino Biasutti Neto 

> Hi
>
> 2012/12/19 Rob Weir :
> > For 3rd year in a row, OpenOffice Writer wins Linux Journal's Readers'
> > Choice Award for Best Single Office Program.  Congratulations,
> > everyone!
> >
> > http://www.linuxjournal.com/slideshow/readers-choice-2012?page=10
>
> Very well :-)
>
> disseminating ...
>
>
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> www.albino.ws
>

Re: [PROPOSAL] New Apache OpenOffice 4 logo proposals...

[Pedro Giffuni]

I like it!

cheers,

Pedro.



>
> Da: Michael Acevedo 
>A: Apache OpenOffice ; Apache OpenOffice Marketing 
> 
>Inviato: Mercoledì 19 Dicembre 2012 20:33
>Oggetto: [PROPOSAL] New Apache OpenOffice 4 logo proposals...
> 
>Greetings to the AOO Team!
>
>Hello, after a few months of inactivity I've decided to get back in touch
>with the AOO community. First, congratulations to the AOO team on
>a successful graduation into a top-level Apache project from the Apache
>Incubator.
>
>Now the reason on why I am writing this email is to formally submit a logo
>proposal for the next version of the Apache OpenOffice 4.X logo.
>Previously, I submitted an initial logo on the Apache OpenOffice Google+
>community but I went back to the drawing board and created a second version
>of the logo that both pays respect to the previous Apache OpenOffice orb,
>but modernizes the look of the overall logo by adding 4 colored squares
>that represent the four corners of our office suite (Writer, Calc, Impress,
>and Base) and utilizing a streamlined font.
>
>Without further introductions, below I present my official submission for
>the Apache OpenOffice 4.X logo.
>
>This first logo, is the proposed official logo for the project that would
>be used for our webpage and some other materials.
>
>https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-lETVSrwcgJc/UNJpH6G1sxI/ABg/JnpNrXdRgUo/s653/AOO%25204%2520LOGO%2520v2-5%2520Small%2520copy.jpg
>
>There's a secondary logo, which is basically the same logo but changes the
>proportion of the OpenOffice orb making it better suited for the splash
>screen that appears at the launch of the application.
>
>https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-uy8gU24uBZw/UNJpH8UiKiI/ABk/xfXTQjO8iQg/s912/AOO%25204%2520LOGO%2520v2-2.png
>
>Hope you guys like it and Happy holidays!
>
>-- 
>Best,
>Michael
>
>
>

[PROPOSAL] New Apache OpenOffice 4 logo proposals...

[Michael Acevedo]

Greetings to the AOO Team!

Hello, after a few months of inactivity I've decided to get back in touch
with the AOO community. First, congratulations to the AOO team on
a successful graduation into a top-level Apache project from the Apache
Incubator.

Now the reason on why I am writing this email is to formally submit a logo
proposal for the next version of the Apache OpenOffice 4.X logo.
Previously, I submitted an initial logo on the Apache OpenOffice Google+
community but I went back to the drawing board and created a second version
of the logo that both pays respect to the previous Apache OpenOffice orb,
but modernizes the look of the overall logo by adding 4 colored squares
that represent the four corners of our office suite (Writer, Calc, Impress,
and Base) and utilizing a streamlined font.

Without further introductions, below I present my official submission for
the Apache OpenOffice 4.X logo.

This first logo, is the proposed official logo for the project that would
be used for our webpage and some other materials.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-lETVSrwcgJc/UNJpH6G1sxI/ABg/JnpNrXdRgUo/s653/AOO%25204%2520LOGO%2520v2-5%2520Small%2520copy.jpg

There's a secondary logo, which is basically the same logo but changes the
proportion of the OpenOffice orb making it better suited for the splash
screen that appears at the launch of the application.

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-uy8gU24uBZw/UNJpH8UiKiI/ABk/xfXTQjO8iQg/s912/AOO%25204%2520LOGO%2520v2-2.png

Hope you guys like it and Happy holidays!

-- 
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Michael

Re: Apache Open Office 3.4.1

[PC-SERVICEPARTNER ERFURT Notebook]

You must download it from Website

http://www.openoffice.org/projects/native-lang.html



Am 20.12.2012 00:36, schrieb Deb:

I got a message to download and install this new version.  It "unpacked, then I clicked 
"Next" and it sait install would take :several minutes"  but I see a progress bar 
with no motion at all and wait for over an hour with no progress at all.  I have Windows 7 and use 
firefox browser.  Please help me get this Open Office update.  You make it so difficult.

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Native lang, pootle information needs changes...

[Kay Schenk]

We have Native Language information on the project web site:

http://openoffice.apache.org/native-lang.htm

which also directs folks to a local Pootle User Guide on the wiki:

http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Pootle_User_Guide

Unfortunately, the registration information from the Pootle User Guide is
no longer valid.

Is there someplace else they should be going? I know Juergen has been
handling most of these requests through the "dev" list.  Should the Pootle
User Guide be changed to reflect that?

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Re: Equivalence in iBook Author

[Louis Suárez-Potts]

Inge,

On 12-12-19, at 18:13 , Inge Wallin  wrote:

> On Friday, December 14, 2012 13:39:25 Sylvain DENIS wrote:
>> Hello,
>> 
>> I make "stands" and often I made small requests. The last appeared after
>> the release of a software in "Apple". In education, many teachers use
>> the software "iBooks Author". He realizes ePub with additional features
>> (such as interactions). Is it possible to make the same kind with AOO?
>> There is the plugin "Writer2epub" but it is far from complete.
>> This is a strong demand in Belgium and France.
>> Thank you for your response
> 
> You could take a look at Calligra Author[1]. It's more or less exactly what 
> you're looking for. It's a new member of the Calligra Suite especially made 
> for creating ebooks. 
> 
> Well...  In theory anyway. The first version hasn't actually been released 
> yet. That's going to happen at the beginning of January. There is a release 
> candidate out now which you can try out. It can export both to epub2 and mobi 
> formats and right now we are working on cover images and adding epub3 
> features 
> like support for MathML and multimedia (embedded video). Calligra Author 
> itself can already handle both (although the first version has somewhat basic 
> handling of math formulas to be honest) but the export filter cannot yet.
> 
> 
> [1] http://www.calligra.org/

I'd like to try it out but my primary device is Mac OS X. I can use a 
virtualizer easily enough but my usual reaction to Windows is typical, if 
unprintable. KDE I can manage easily enough but if there is a Mac OS X binary 
that's pre-pre ready, I'd be game to give it a spin. You can send me info 
offline, if you like to preserve peace.

BTW, Calligra is overall quite nice—a great job of coding and management. 

If I get a copy of the Author for OS X, I'll also be comparing it to Scrivener, 
which I've come to rather like for DTP, though of course, I am most comfortable 
with AOO.

Cheers
Louis

Re: Trabalho voluntário (translation volunteer)

[Claudio Filho]

Hi

2012/12/19 Andrew Douglas Pitonyak :
> I have been watching for replies, surprised that we have none yet OK,
> anyone, any particular advice for translators?

Yes. Was a problem update all emails here. I istarted in l10n list first. :-)

> On 12/18/2012 04:18 PM, Tatiane Araujo wrote:
>> Good afternoon!

Hi Tatiane. Welcome. :)

>> I am Tatiane Araujo Cristo received a mensafem about volunteering Apache
>> OpenOffice project,
>> I want to include this project as a volunteer in the area of translation
>> (Portuguese Brazil).

This sounds good. We discuss our work in geral-pt-br@ list. So, I
suggest to you subscribe this list[1]. At this moment, we are working
in help files, wiki and web pages translations. We can discuss more
about there, with other people that are waiting more details to help.
What you think?
[1]  geral-ptbr-subscr...@openoffice.apache.org

Bests,
Claudio

Re: Equivalence in iBook Author

[Inge Wallin]

On Friday, December 14, 2012 13:39:25 Sylvain DENIS wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> I make "stands" and often I made small requests. The last appeared after
> the release of a software in "Apple". In education, many teachers use
> the software "iBooks Author". He realizes ePub with additional features
> (such as interactions). Is it possible to make the same kind with AOO?
> There is the plugin "Writer2epub" but it is far from complete.
> This is a strong demand in Belgium and France.
> Thank you for your response

You could take a look at Calligra Author[1]. It's more or less exactly what 
you're looking for. It's a new member of the Calligra Suite especially made 
for creating ebooks. 

Well...  In theory anyway. The first version hasn't actually been released 
yet. That's going to happen at the beginning of January. There is a release 
candidate out now which you can try out. It can export both to epub2 and mobi 
formats and right now we are working on cover images and adding epub3 features 
like support for MathML and multimedia (embedded video). Calligra Author 
itself can already handle both (although the first version has somewhat basic 
handling of math formulas to be honest) but the export filter cannot yet.


[1] http://www.calligra.org/

Re: [Release candicate] mwiki, test

[Regina Henschel]

Hi Jan,

janI schrieb:

Finally I got mwiki upgraded and ready for test.

version 1.20.2 of mediawiki, with AOO skin and a copy of the database is
available for testing:

wikitest.openoffice.org

It will prompt for a user/password (htaccess), which is:  wikitest/wikitest
(just used so nobody thinks it is a production wiki).

There are several changes against to current wiki, here are some of the
important ones:
- New editor (I ended up using the standard editor)
- many extensions are now part of the core (it requires that especially
creative user pages needs testing)
- special gatcha for "create account", actually it is just a reuse of an
extension that was already loaded

I have done a "run and go" test, but we need it tested a lot more before it
goes into production.

My proposal is to leave wikitest running until 31/12/2012, and anybody who
finds a problem (or a feature request) please make a bugzilla report, that
makes it easier to control.


I have written
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=121516
 [WIKITEST] math formulas are not rendered
in Product:  ; Component: Website general issues

Perhaps you determine a form of bug report you like best?



Beginning january and once all severe bugzilla bugs for wikitest has been
solved, I will ask for a vote on replacing the current wiki.

have a nice time testing.
Jan I



Kind regards
Regina

Re: NewWikiMainPage

[janI]

Thanks.

I ended up using the oooSkin as basis. I had to rewrite the php completely,
and do a number of changes to main.css, but now it works.

The oooSkin was based on monobook, but it did not look good to take that
directly.

Jan I.

On 19 December 2012 23:48, Alexandro Colorado  wrote:

> Looks great, I wonder if the skin used the original monobook or vector one?

NewWikiMainPage

[Alexandro Colorado]

Looks great, I wonder if the skin used the original monobook or vector one?

[Release candicate] mwiki, test

[janI]

Finally I got mwiki upgraded and ready for test.

version 1.20.2 of mediawiki, with AOO skin and a copy of the database is
available for testing:

wikitest.openoffice.org

It will prompt for a user/password (htaccess), which is:  wikitest/wikitest
(just used so nobody thinks it is a production wiki).

There are several changes against to current wiki, here are some of the
important ones:
- New editor (I ended up using the standard editor)
- many extensions are now part of the core (it requires that especially
creative user pages needs testing)
- special gatcha for "create account", actually it is just a reuse of an
extension that was already loaded

I have done a "run and go" test, but we need it tested a lot more before it
goes into production.

My proposal is to leave wikitest running until 31/12/2012, and anybody who
finds a problem (or a feature request) please make a bugzilla report, that
makes it easier to control.

Beginning january and once all severe bugzilla bugs for wikitest has been
solved, I will ask for a vote on replacing the current wiki.

have a nice time testing.
Jan I

Re: Trabalho voluntário (translation volunteer)

[Andrew Douglas Pitonyak]

I have been watching for replies, surprised that we have none yet 
OK, anyone, any particular advice for translators?


Do we have active work now (web sites, wiki, etc)

Documentation group is just starting up, will certainly need translators 
there as well.


On 12/18/2012 04:18 PM, Tatiane Araujo wrote:

Boa tarde!

Eu sou Tatiane Araujo de Cristo recebi uma mensafem sobre o trabalho
voluntário do projeto Apache OpenOffice,
quero me incluir neste projeto como voluntária na área de tradução
(português do Brasil).


Good afternoon!
I am Tatiane Araujo Cristo received a mensafem about volunteering Apache
OpenOffice project,
I want to include this project as a volunteer in the area of translation
(Portuguese Brazil).




Tatiane Araujo de Cristo
Bacharelando em Tradução e Intérprete
Técnica em Turismo e Hotelaria



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Info:  http://www.pitonyak.org/oo.php

Re: Default Toolbar for Certain Languages

[imacat]

On 2012/12/19 11:36, Shenfeng Liu said:
> 2012/12/19 imacat 
> 
>> On 2012/12/18 11:24, Fan Zheng said:
>>> As we are considering about the side bar stuff currently, would you mind
>>> giving us more specifications on your suggestions?
>>
>> Specificly, I'm thinking about installing this on both Chinese
>> versions by default:
>>
>> http://extensions.openoffice.org/en/project/cpuncbar
>>
>> We may discuss about the list of punctuation marks, but that's the
>> basic idea.  This is quite important to Chinese users, as people keep
>> asking me about it.
>>
> 
> imacat,
>   I agree with you that it is a very useful feature! But IMO to build it
> into product, we need a better design than the current extension. e.g. It
> should be customizable, since there are so many special characters and
> different people will ask for different characters on the toolbar. And
> then, it should be general enough and be able to work for all languages
> (even English), with different default set of characters?

This looks nice.  I think it is the proper way to do. ^_*'

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Re: [PROPOSAL] Licenses and Oracle texts.

[Pedro Giffuni]

Hi Andrew;


- Messaggio originale -
> Da: Andrew Rist 
> 
> Jan,
> Other than the 'Oracle Report Builder' these all look like they should 
> be changed.
> As for the 'Oracle Report Builder' ones, does that require more detailed 
> surgery?   What is the equivalent product now?  Asking a larger audience...
> 

Abandonware. Not sure if Ariel had something in the works to rescue it
as an extension.

Pedro.

Re: unsubscribe siva.jas...@gmail.com

[Albino Biasutti Neto]

Hi

2012/12/19 Siva Jasthi :
>  unsubscribe siva.jas...@gmail.com

Sent:

dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org

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www.albino.ws

Re: OpenOffice Writer wins Linux Journal's Readers' Choice Award for Best Single Office Program

[Albino Biasutti Neto]

Hi

2012/12/19 Rob Weir :
> For 3rd year in a row, OpenOffice Writer wins Linux Journal's Readers'
> Choice Award for Best Single Office Program.  Congratulations,
> everyone!
>
> http://www.linuxjournal.com/slideshow/readers-choice-2012?page=10

Very well :-)

disseminating ...


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Re: [QA] Python version late for MacOS

[Pedro Giffuni]

Hi Alexandro;


- Messaggio originale -
> Da: Alexandro Colorado 
...
> 
> Just as a note, OOo allows the user to select their own JVM and other
> things such as classpath, and such on the Tools - Options - Java.
> Could something like this be enabled for Python3 or 2 or would it be as
> hard as porting the bridge?
> 


pyuno needs to know the python version during compile time. This is
different in Java because bytecode is made to be portable.

I guess you could build pyuno2 and pyuno3 but you would need to have
both python versions available. I think hanya may be thinking of something
like that in his pyuno3 project:

https://github.com/hanya/pyuno3/


cheers,

Pedro.

Re: [PROPOSAL] Licenses and Oracle texts.

[Andrew Rist]

Jan,
Other than the 'Oracle Report Builder' these all look like they should 
be changed.
As for the 'Oracle Report Builder' ones, does that require more detailed 
surgery?   What is the equivalent product now?  Asking a larger audience...


A.


On 12/19/2012 7:22 AM, janI wrote:

In our ongoing discussion about license issues, releases etc. I have a big
question mark.

During our QA (and my l10n work), I have found several references to Oracle
in AOO, and hereby I mean in the strings that are being translated and
problaly shown to end-users (why else translate them).

I have of course removed those, where it is a reference to Oracle as a
database provider...two of the better ones are:

crashrep: "You have marked the option 'I allow Oracle to contact me
regarding this report.'\nPlease enter your e-mail address."

helpcontent2: "OpenOffice.org 3, StarOffice 9, Oracle Open Office"

I hereby propose the the list below is changed before we make a new release.

Now changing these in the original files, of course also means that all
translations have to be changed.

I am sorry, if I listed a text or two, that are correctly Oracle.

Jan I.



List with: "source file sdf", "key", "text" (it is an extract from
localization.sdf):

basicsource\app\basic.src IDD_TT_ABOUT_DIALOG
   ©1995-2010 Oracle

crashrep\source\all\crashrep.ulf0 %WELCOME_BODY1%
   This error report tool gathers information about how %PRODUCTNAME% is
working and sends it to Oracle to help improve future versions.\n\n

crashrep\source\all\crashrep.ulf0 %WELCOME_BODY3%
Customer Privacy\nThe information gathered is limited to data concerning
the state of %PRODUCTNAME% %PRODUCTVERSION% when the error occurred. Other
information about passwords or document contents is not collected.\n\nThe
information will only be used to improve the quality of %PRODUCTNAME% and
will not be shared with third parties.\nFor more information on Oracle's
privacy policy, visit\n

crashrep\source\all\crashrep.ulf0 %PRIVACY_URL%
  http://www.oracle.com/html/services-privacy-policy.html

crashrep\source\all\crashrep.ulf0 %REPORT_BODY%
   The %PRODUCTNAME% %PRODUCTVERSION% Error Report has gathered information
that could help Oracle improve %PRODUCTNAME%.\nIn the spaces below, you can
enter a title for your crash report and describe the action you were trying
to carry out when the error occurred. Then click 'Send'.\n

crashrep\source\all\crashrep.ulf0 %ALLOW_CONTACT%
 ~I allow Oracle to contact me regarding this report.

crashrep\source\all\crashrep.ulf0 %ERROR_MSG_NOEMAILADDRESS%
   You have marked the option 'I allow Oracle to contact me regarding this
report.'\nPlease enter your e-mail address.

desktop\source\app\desktop.src INFOBOX_EXPIRED
This Evaluation Version has expired. To find out more about
%PRODUCTNAME,\nvisit
http://www.oracle.com/us/products/applications/open-office.

extensions\source\preload\preload.srcRID_TP_WELCOMEFT_INFO
   Welcome to %PRODUCTNAME %PRODUCTVERSION OEM\n\nTo start the %PRODUCTNAME
%PRODUCTVERSION OEM, please enter your personal data in the dialog
following the license text. Important information is contained in the
readme files which are located in the %PRODUCTNAME product directory.
Please read these files carefully. You can also find detailed information
at the Oracle website \n\nhttp://
www.oracle.com/us/products/applications/open-office.

framework\source\classes\resource.src STR_STATUSBAR_LOGOTEXT
  %PRODUCTNAME product by Oracle

helpcontent2\source\text\shared\00\0021.xhp par_id0519200811530471
OpenOffice.org 3, StarOffice 9, Oracle Open Office

helpcontent2\source\text\shared\explorer\database\rep_main.xhp bm_id1614429
   \Report
Builder\\Oracle Report
Builder\

reportbuilder\registry\data\org\openoffice\Office\ExtendedColorScheme.xcu
.ExtendedColorScheme.EntryNames.SunReportBuilderDisplayName
   Oracle Report Builder

svx\source\dialog\docrecovery.src RID_SVXPAGE_ERR_REP_WELCOME FT_RECOV_DESCR
   This error report tool gathers information about how %PRODUCTNAME is
working and sends it to Oracle to help improve future versions.\n\nIt's
easy - just send the report without any further effort on your part by
clicking 'Send' in the next dialog, or you can briefly describe how the
error occurred and then click 'Send'. If you want to see the report, click
the 'Show Report' button. No data will be sent if you click 'Do Not
Send'.\n\nCustomer Privacy\nThe information gathered is limited to data
concerning the state of %PRODUCTNAME %PRODUCTVERSION when the error
occurred. Other information about passwords or document contents is not
collected.\n\nThe information will only be used to improve the quality of
%PRODUCTNAME and will not be shared with third parties.\nFor more
information on Oracle's privacy policy, visit\
nwww.oracle.com/html/services-privacy-policy.html

svx\source\dialog\docrecovery.src RID_SVXPAGE_ERR_REP_SEND
CB_ERRSEND_CONTACT
~I allow Oracle to con

OpenOffice Writer wins Linux Journal's Readers' Choice Award for Best Single Office Program

[Rob Weir]

For 3rd year in a row, OpenOffice Writer wins Linux Journal's Readers'
Choice Award for Best Single Office Program.  Congratulations,
everyone!

http://www.linuxjournal.com/slideshow/readers-choice-2012?page=10

Regards,

-Rob

Re: Website style disconnect

[janI]

On 19 December 2012 18:13, Rob Weir  wrote:

> cc'ing the marketing list, since we have some recent volunteers who
> said they had web design skills.
>
> We have two websites for the project:
>
> 1) A public-facing website at http://www.openoffice.org
>
> 2) A project-facing website at http://openoffice.apache.org
>
> In practice the distinction is not always clear.  There are many links
> that cross from one website to another.  For example, a user starting
> at http://www.openoffice.org/ and clicking the "I want to Participate
> in OpenOffice" ends on on this project page here:
> http://openoffice.apache.org/get-involved.html.
>
> The websites have a similar look, but they differ in many small ways,
> and the cumulative effect of these differences is discordant (IMHO).
>
Would it not be more efficient just to have one website, with e.g. a
project corner, I for one tend to get confused when I search information ?

>
> To draw out the difference, I made two identical test pages that
> illustrate how the different style sheets treat common HTML
> constructs, and differences in page headers/footers:
>
> See:
>
> http://openoffice.apache.org/style-test.html
>
> and
>
> http://www.openoffice.org/style-test.html
>
If we need two, it would be real nice (as you suggest) that the layout is
identical.


>
> Note, for example, how our tagline differs between the pages.   Also,
> the default font size on the openoffice.org is smaller than on
> openoffice.apache.org.  IMHO this is too small for default text.
>
> There are other things that are common between the two sites, but
> perhaps are non-optimal, like:
>
> 1) We're really not distinguishing blockquotes well.  We're just
> indenting.  Maybe we can add a left-aligned vertical bar?
>
+1

>
> 2) The yellow background of the  block is a bit extreme.  Maybe
> something more subtle?
>
+1 +++

>
> 3) The hierarchy of headers only deals with H1 and H2.
>
There is a need for more levels, and maybe skip H1 and thereby making it
easier to transfer to/from mwiki.

>
>
> I'm willing to help here, on integration of new stylesheets, getting
> stuff checked in, etc.  But I have neither the taste nor the talent to
> design a good looking set of styles.  Trust me, you do not want be to
> do design work.  So I'm hoping that someone reading this can volunteer
> to take the lead in proposing a good, modern, professional set of
> styles that we can use across both websites.
>
That makes two of a kind, I think you need to have a special touch to be a
good designer.

Jan.

>
> Thanks!
>
> -Rob
>

Website style disconnect

[Rob Weir]

cc'ing the marketing list, since we have some recent volunteers who
said they had web design skills.

We have two websites for the project:

1) A public-facing website at http://www.openoffice.org

2) A project-facing website at http://openoffice.apache.org

In practice the distinction is not always clear.  There are many links
that cross from one website to another.  For example, a user starting
at http://www.openoffice.org/ and clicking the "I want to Participate
in OpenOffice" ends on on this project page here:
http://openoffice.apache.org/get-involved.html.

The websites have a similar look, but they differ in many small ways,
and the cumulative effect of these differences is discordant (IMHO).

To draw out the difference, I made two identical test pages that
illustrate how the different style sheets treat common HTML
constructs, and differences in page headers/footers:

See:

http://openoffice.apache.org/style-test.html

and

http://www.openoffice.org/style-test.html

Note, for example, how our tagline differs between the pages.   Also,
the default font size on the openoffice.org is smaller than on
openoffice.apache.org.  IMHO this is too small for default text.

There are other things that are common between the two sites, but
perhaps are non-optimal, like:

1) We're really not distinguishing blockquotes well.  We're just
indenting.  Maybe we can add a left-aligned vertical bar?

2) The yellow background of the  block is a bit extreme.  Maybe
something more subtle?

3) The hierarchy of headers only deals with H1 and H2.


I'm willing to help here, on integration of new stylesheets, getting
stuff checked in, etc.  But I have neither the taste nor the talent to
design a good looking set of styles.  Trust me, you do not want be to
do design work.  So I'm hoping that someone reading this can volunteer
to take the lead in proposing a good, modern, professional set of
styles that we can use across both websites.

Thanks!

-Rob

Re: [QA] Python version late for MacOS

[Alexandro Colorado]

Just as a note, OOo allows the user to select their own JVM and other
things such as classpath, and such on the Tools - Options - Java.
Could something like this be enabled for Python3 or 2 or would it be as
hard as porting the bridge?


On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 3:53 PM, Pedro Giffuni  wrote:

> Hello guys;
>
> Just a quick note that thanks to Tsutomu-san and some tweaking around the
> tree with the 2to3 python script we basically support Python 3 as a system
> version now. There may still be some issues to fix (especially with
> mailmerge)
> but it should work now.
>
> I still think we should use Python 2.7.3 by default in the tree and I don't
> plan to change that for AOO 4.x but it is really cool to have upgrade
> options.
>
> Please do exercise the default Python support and report any regression.
>
> Pedro.
>
>
> - Messaggio originale -
>
>
> >
> >Thank you Tsutomu-san!
> >
> > I am currently busy with other stuff but I am aware of what's needed in
> > our pyuno layer so I will examine your code soon.
> >
> > Pedro.
> >
>



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Apache OpenOffice Contributor
http://es.openoffice.org

Re: [UX] Design Exploration - Task Pane Content Panel User Interface Design

[Rob Weir]

On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 2:22 AM, Xin Li  wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I have been exploring on Task Pane framework and content panel design.  I
> have post the 9 proposals on AOO UX wiki.
>

I put the question up on our Facebook page:
https://www.facebook.com/ApacheOO/posts/395424523873910

5 responses in less than 30 minutes.  I think this could be a good way
to engage with our users.

-Rob


> See:
> http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/AOO_UX_Design_Exploration_-_Task_Pane_Content_Panel_-_User_Interface_Design_Proposals#Task_Pane_Content_Panel_-_UX_Design_propoals
>
> Capture any thoughts or feedback in the discussion section of the wiki
> page. Thanks.
>
> 
> --
> Best regards,
> Xin Li   李欣
> UX designer

Re: [Documentation] What gives the most bang for the buck?

[Keith N. McKenna]

Rob Weir wrote:

On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 12:36 AM, Stephen Cameron
 wrote:

Hi Rob,

I agree with your points,  It should be possible to create something using
the AOO Writer by borrowing the DITA concepts rather than the standard
itself, maybe by using templates.

The key concept is to be able to generate big documents from lots of
smallish, very specifically focused, ones. This provides many advantages
(as reading an intro to DITA will make clear) but regarding managing the
'content'  development process and in the usefulness of the end result.

Potentially the DITA open toolkit can be tweeked to accept something
different, its all XML behind the scenes in ODF I assume.



 From another direction, maybe we can find a way to convert AOO output
(in ODF format) into proper DITA?  There might we away that this could
be done using a combination of styles and metatags inserted into the
text of the document.

-Rob


Rob;

This may be a better alternative. That way standard templates could be 
developed and contributors would be able to concentrate more on writing 
than on learning DITA.


Regards
Keith




On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 12:22 PM, Rob Weir  wrote:


On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 7:15 PM, Stephen Cameron
 wrote:

Hi, Have you ever thought of DITA as an option for AOO documentation?

I've just started using it for documentation of some non-commercial
software.

There is an FOSS resource in the DITA Open Toolkit.

In theory the DITA concepts are resources from which is generated

different

types of documentation via DITA maps.

http://dita-ot.sourceforge.net/

If coders created DITA topics as feature where implemented then these

could

be taken and used by people creating documentation.

This just might overcome one of the major limitations of many open-source
projects, poor documentation.



I certainly have suggested DITA as an approach.  It has the advantages
of being able to target PDF, HTML, e-Book., etc.  It also would allow
us to do a greater degree of customization, e.g., encode what
paragraphs are Linux-specific, etc., and then generate a guide for
windows, another one for Linux, etc., from a single source document.

However, the arguments against DITA that I've heard include:

1) Volunteers are not familiar with it.  So it becomes an additional
hurdle for contributors

2) Editing DITA via raw XML is hard, but the good DITA editors that
make DITA editing easy are not free.

3) Since our project includes its own word processor, we should
probably use it for producing documentation.

I don't think these hurdles are impossible to overcome, but we'd need
to figure out how to do so.

IMHO learning DITA is not very hard.  You don't need to be a
programmer, for example.  And knowledge of DITA is a useful market
skill.  So if we did a "call for documentation volunteers" and talked
about this being an opportunity to gain experience with DITA, that
might be attractive to some new volunteers.  On the other hand, some
just want to write, and not worry about a more complicated document
preparation workflow.

Regards,

-Rob





On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 10:03 AM, Keith N. McKenna <
keith.mcke...@comcast.net> wrote:


Rob Weir wrote:


On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 4:28 PM, Keith N. McKenna
 wrote:


Donald Whytock wrote:



Hotkey reference pages?

My personal preference for documentation is usually immediate-answer
stuff like reference pages and very specific how-tos, as opposed to
general guides and introductions.  Perhaps that's just me coming from
a programming perspective.

Don



Don;

Immediate answer pages are great and they serve a useful purpose.

However

there is also need for In depth Guides and Introductions such as the
Getting
Started Guides. There are still many of us that prefer to have hard

copy

documentation that we can highlight and mark-up as fits our learning
styles.



With hypertext we can have both, right?  Immediate answer pages that
link to in depth reference material for details, etc.

-Rob

  Rob;


That is correct. That is one nice thing about electronic documentation.

Regards
Keith




  Regards

Keith

  On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 3:25 PM, Rob Weir 

wrote:




As we wait, patiently, for the new doc list to be created, it might

be

worth having a quick discussion about priorities.

I know there has been talk about "getting started" guides, perhaps
done on the wiki.

Another idea I had was a very targeted version of that, thinking
specifically of Microsoft Office users migrating to OpenOffice.

  Would

it be worth having a small guide just for them, say the "top 10"
helpful hints for MS Office users, things they might find confusing

at

first.

For example:

1) In Calc, the argument separator is a semi-colon, not a comma.

2) In Calc, toggling absolute address mode is done by a shift-F4,

not

an
F4

OK.  Maybe we end up more with 40 or 50 things like this.

Would this be useful and worth trying?

-Rob

Re: Databases

[RA Stehmann]

Am 19.12.2012 12:45, schrieb Graham Wing:
> Hi there,
> why can't I copy an access database into Opensource, and then be able to 
> update it?
> I have to convert the darabase into excel but of course I loose the 
> facilities of access
> Kind regards,
> Graham Wing ACQI
> Office: 01787371331
> Fax: 08704581636
> Mobile: 07711162621

There are different ways to migrate an access-database to a Free
Software database.

This is the way I would choose.

The first thing you have to do is to choose a free database management
system (dbms).

If you like a server-client-system the build-in HSQL is not the right
one. But they are MySQL and PostgreSQL (for example).

The second step (export) is to migrate the data in csv-files (csv =
character separeted values) table by table. Control the results!

The next step is to create a database in the choosen dbms with the right
format of tables and columns. That is the step you need some experience
in databases.

And the last step is to import the csv-files table for table in the new
database. Control the results!

In openoffice you have to create a database connection (if you use a
server-client-system).

Then you have to make queries, formulars, reports and all the other stuff.

Regards
Michael




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[PROPOSAL] Licenses and Oracle texts.

[janI]

In our ongoing discussion about license issues, releases etc. I have a big
question mark.

During our QA (and my l10n work), I have found several references to Oracle
in AOO, and hereby I mean in the strings that are being translated and
problaly shown to end-users (why else translate them).

I have of course removed those, where it is a reference to Oracle as a
database provider...two of the better ones are:

crashrep: "You have marked the option 'I allow Oracle to contact me
regarding this report.'\nPlease enter your e-mail address."

helpcontent2: "OpenOffice.org 3, StarOffice 9, Oracle Open Office"

I hereby propose the the list below is changed before we make a new release.

Now changing these in the original files, of course also means that all
translations have to be changed.

I am sorry, if I listed a text or two, that are correctly Oracle.

Jan I.



List with: "source file sdf", "key", "text" (it is an extract from
localization.sdf):

basicsource\app\basic.src IDD_TT_ABOUT_DIALOG
  ©1995-2010 Oracle

crashrep\source\all\crashrep.ulf0 %WELCOME_BODY1%
  This error report tool gathers information about how %PRODUCTNAME% is
working and sends it to Oracle to help improve future versions.\n\n

crashrep\source\all\crashrep.ulf0 %WELCOME_BODY3%
   Customer Privacy\nThe information gathered is limited to data concerning
the state of %PRODUCTNAME% %PRODUCTVERSION% when the error occurred. Other
information about passwords or document contents is not collected.\n\nThe
information will only be used to improve the quality of %PRODUCTNAME% and
will not be shared with third parties.\nFor more information on Oracle's
privacy policy, visit\n

crashrep\source\all\crashrep.ulf0 %PRIVACY_URL%
 http://www.oracle.com/html/services-privacy-policy.html

crashrep\source\all\crashrep.ulf0 %REPORT_BODY%
  The %PRODUCTNAME% %PRODUCTVERSION% Error Report has gathered information
that could help Oracle improve %PRODUCTNAME%.\nIn the spaces below, you can
enter a title for your crash report and describe the action you were trying
to carry out when the error occurred. Then click 'Send'.\n

crashrep\source\all\crashrep.ulf0 %ALLOW_CONTACT%
~I allow Oracle to contact me regarding this report.

crashrep\source\all\crashrep.ulf0 %ERROR_MSG_NOEMAILADDRESS%
  You have marked the option 'I allow Oracle to contact me regarding this
report.'\nPlease enter your e-mail address.

desktop\source\app\desktop.src INFOBOX_EXPIRED
This Evaluation Version has expired. To find out more about
%PRODUCTNAME,\nvisit
http://www.oracle.com/us/products/applications/open-office.

extensions\source\preload\preload.srcRID_TP_WELCOMEFT_INFO
  Welcome to %PRODUCTNAME %PRODUCTVERSION OEM\n\nTo start the %PRODUCTNAME
%PRODUCTVERSION OEM, please enter your personal data in the dialog
following the license text. Important information is contained in the
readme files which are located in the %PRODUCTNAME product directory.
Please read these files carefully. You can also find detailed information
at the Oracle website \n\nhttp://
www.oracle.com/us/products/applications/open-office.

framework\source\classes\resource.src STR_STATUSBAR_LOGOTEXT
 %PRODUCTNAME product by Oracle

helpcontent2\source\text\shared\00\0021.xhp par_id0519200811530471
OpenOffice.org 3, StarOffice 9, Oracle Open Office

helpcontent2\source\text\shared\explorer\database\rep_main.xhp bm_id1614429
  \Report
Builder\\Oracle Report
Builder\

reportbuilder\registry\data\org\openoffice\Office\ExtendedColorScheme.xcu
.ExtendedColorScheme.EntryNames.SunReportBuilderDisplayName
  Oracle Report Builder

svx\source\dialog\docrecovery.src RID_SVXPAGE_ERR_REP_WELCOME FT_RECOV_DESCR
  This error report tool gathers information about how %PRODUCTNAME is
working and sends it to Oracle to help improve future versions.\n\nIt's
easy - just send the report without any further effort on your part by
clicking 'Send' in the next dialog, or you can briefly describe how the
error occurred and then click 'Send'. If you want to see the report, click
the 'Show Report' button. No data will be sent if you click 'Do Not
Send'.\n\nCustomer Privacy\nThe information gathered is limited to data
concerning the state of %PRODUCTNAME %PRODUCTVERSION when the error
occurred. Other information about passwords or document contents is not
collected.\n\nThe information will only be used to improve the quality of
%PRODUCTNAME and will not be shared with third parties.\nFor more
information on Oracle's privacy policy, visit\
nwww.oracle.com/html/services-privacy-policy.html

svx\source\dialog\docrecovery.src RID_SVXPAGE_ERR_REP_SEND
CB_ERRSEND_CONTACT
~I allow Oracle to contact me regarding this report.

sysui\desktop\share\launcher_comment.ulf startcenter
  The office productivity suite compatible to the open and standardized ODF
document format. Supported by Oracle.

Re: Databases

[Regina Henschel]

YHi Graham,

Graham Wing schrieb:

Hi there, why can't I copy an access database into Opensource, and
then be able to update it?


Which database driver do you use?
Which operating system?

You should have ask on user mailing list or in the forum.
Perhaps the tips in 
http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Connecting_to_Microsoft_Access help you.


Kind regards
Regina

Databases

[Graham Wing]

Hi there,
why can't I copy an access database into Opensource, and then be able to update 
it?
I have to convert the darabase into excel but of course I loose the facilities 
of access
Kind regards,
Graham Wing ACQI
Office: 01787371331
Fax: 08704581636
Mobile: 07711162621

MIME type of current document

[Robert Barbey]

Hi everyone,

is it possible to get the kind of document currently opened in Writer via the 
API? Ideally, this would be a MIME type kind of thing. 

Thank you very much!

Best,
Robert

Re: [Documentation] What gives the most bang for the buck?

[Rob Weir]

On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 12:36 AM, Stephen Cameron
 wrote:
> Hi Rob,
>
> I agree with your points,  It should be possible to create something using
> the AOO Writer by borrowing the DITA concepts rather than the standard
> itself, maybe by using templates.
>
> The key concept is to be able to generate big documents from lots of
> smallish, very specifically focused, ones. This provides many advantages
> (as reading an intro to DITA will make clear) but regarding managing the
> 'content'  development process and in the usefulness of the end result.
>
> Potentially the DITA open toolkit can be tweeked to accept something
> different, its all XML behind the scenes in ODF I assume.
>

>From another direction, maybe we can find a way to convert AOO output
(in ODF format) into proper DITA?  There might we away that this could
be done using a combination of styles and metatags inserted into the
text of the document.

-Rob

>
>
> On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 12:22 PM, Rob Weir  wrote:
>
>> On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 7:15 PM, Stephen Cameron
>>  wrote:
>> > Hi, Have you ever thought of DITA as an option for AOO documentation?
>> >
>> > I've just started using it for documentation of some non-commercial
>> > software.
>> >
>> > There is an FOSS resource in the DITA Open Toolkit.
>> >
>> > In theory the DITA concepts are resources from which is generated
>> different
>> > types of documentation via DITA maps.
>> >
>> > http://dita-ot.sourceforge.net/
>> >
>> > If coders created DITA topics as feature where implemented then these
>> could
>> > be taken and used by people creating documentation.
>> >
>> > This just might overcome one of the major limitations of many open-source
>> > projects, poor documentation.
>> >
>>
>> I certainly have suggested DITA as an approach.  It has the advantages
>> of being able to target PDF, HTML, e-Book., etc.  It also would allow
>> us to do a greater degree of customization, e.g., encode what
>> paragraphs are Linux-specific, etc., and then generate a guide for
>> windows, another one for Linux, etc., from a single source document.
>>
>> However, the arguments against DITA that I've heard include:
>>
>> 1) Volunteers are not familiar with it.  So it becomes an additional
>> hurdle for contributors
>>
>> 2) Editing DITA via raw XML is hard, but the good DITA editors that
>> make DITA editing easy are not free.
>>
>> 3) Since our project includes its own word processor, we should
>> probably use it for producing documentation.
>>
>> I don't think these hurdles are impossible to overcome, but we'd need
>> to figure out how to do so.
>>
>> IMHO learning DITA is not very hard.  You don't need to be a
>> programmer, for example.  And knowledge of DITA is a useful market
>> skill.  So if we did a "call for documentation volunteers" and talked
>> about this being an opportunity to gain experience with DITA, that
>> might be attractive to some new volunteers.  On the other hand, some
>> just want to write, and not worry about a more complicated document
>> preparation workflow.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> -Rob
>>
>>
>>
>> >
>> > On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 10:03 AM, Keith N. McKenna <
>> > keith.mcke...@comcast.net> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Rob Weir wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 4:28 PM, Keith N. McKenna
>> >>>  wrote:
>> >>>
>>  Donald Whytock wrote:
>> 
>> >
>> > Hotkey reference pages?
>> >
>> > My personal preference for documentation is usually immediate-answer
>> > stuff like reference pages and very specific how-tos, as opposed to
>> > general guides and introductions.  Perhaps that's just me coming from
>> > a programming perspective.
>> >
>> > Don
>> >
>> >
>>  Don;
>> 
>>  Immediate answer pages are great and they serve a useful purpose.
>> However
>>  there is also need for In depth Guides and Introductions such as the
>>  Getting
>>  Started Guides. There are still many of us that prefer to have hard
>> copy
>>  documentation that we can highlight and mark-up as fits our learning
>>  styles.
>> 
>> 
>> >>> With hypertext we can have both, right?  Immediate answer pages that
>> >>> link to in depth reference material for details, etc.
>> >>>
>> >>> -Rob
>> >>>
>> >>>  Rob;
>> >>
>> >> That is correct. That is one nice thing about electronic documentation.
>> >>
>> >> Regards
>> >> Keith
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>>
>> >>>  Regards
>>  Keith
>> 
>>   On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 3:25 PM, Rob Weir 
>> wrote:
>> >
>> >>
>> >> As we wait, patiently, for the new doc list to be created, it might
>> be
>> >> worth having a quick discussion about priorities.
>> >>
>> >> I know there has been talk about "getting started" guides, perhaps
>> >> done on the wiki.
>> >>
>> >> Another idea I had was a very targeted version of that, thinking
>> >> specifically of Microsoft Office users migrating to OpenOffice.
>>  Would
>> >> it be worth having a small guide just for them, say t

Re: [Documentation] What gives the most bang for the buck?

[Rob Weir]

On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 2:01 AM, Andrew Douglas Pitonyak
 wrote:
>
> On 12/18/2012 03:25 PM, Rob Weir wrote:
>>
>> As we wait, patiently, for the new doc list to be created, it might be
>> worth having a quick discussion about priorities.
>
>
> May I assume that the ODF Authors site and methods will not be used (initial
> intent was to have both supported) and that a separate effort and site will
> be used? If yes, then:

My assumptions are that the work is done on Apache lists, wikis and
website, that the work products are published at Apache, under the
Apache License.  I'm not sure what the ODF Authors "methods" are, but
I have no assumptions on whether they should be used or not.

>
> 1. Decide what to produce (content such as FAQ, User guides, etc)
> 2. Establish target output types (ODT files, PDF, eBook, Web pages)

2a) Establish editing format that can be transformed into the target
output types.

> 3. Pick a tool and decide how it will be used; for example, if using AOO, is
> it one big document or using Master Documents?


The modularity aspect is key.   For example, if we write
self-contained topics then we can assemble them into different larger
works.  So imagine we had a topic for every menu item and dialog in
the product.  Put that together, along with conceptual topics (like
"why styles are important")  and you have a comprehensive reference
manual.  But a subset of this material might be brought together,
along with new specific target, for a shorter work, "Writing your
Dissertation with Apache OpenOffice", or "Apache OpenOffice for
Science and Engineering", or "Apache OpenOffice for Microsoft Office
Users".  Some might be purely text.  Some might have video
demonstrations to accompany them for key techniques.

This old TED talk gives the key insight, I think:
http://www.ted.com/talks/malcolm_gladwell_on_spaghetti_sauce.html

The question should not be how to create the single perfect user's
guide that makes the most people happy.  It should be (IMHO) how do we
efficiently create many guides that fit our diverse user base even
better than any single guide could do.

> 4. Establish a workflow

4a) NL translation should be explicitly considered when defining
tooling, workflows, etc.

> 5. Create uniform templates
> 6. Document how volunteers work
>

7) Establish a feedback loop with our users/readers

> Now, for each produced document, probably the most difficult part is the
> initial outline for each document.
>
>
> --
> Andrew Pitonyak
> My Macro Document: http://www.pitonyak.org/AndrewMacro.odt
> Info:  http://www.pitonyak.org/oo.php
>

Re: Anyone know where are list mbox files are now?

[Rob Weir]

On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 3:16 AM, Herbert Duerr  wrote:
> On 18.12.2012 21:19, Rob Weir wrote:
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 3:12 PM, Regina Henschel
>>  wrote:
>>>
>>> [...]
>>>
 Does anyone know what is needed to get the archives added back and
 maintained?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> A Google-search finds the archive
>>> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/openoffice-dev/
>>>
>>
>> That's a website.  I'm looking to download the actual mbox files, like
>> we could do before.  That then allows deeper analysis, e.g., number of
>> unique posters per month, etc.
>
>
> It's both depending on how you access it. Pointing your browser at. e.g.
>   http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/openoffice-dev/201212.mbox
> will download the mbox file, whereas
>
> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/openoffice-dev/201212.mbox/browser
> will let you browse the content directly.
>

Ohhh.  Excellent.  Sorry I missed that.

Thanks,

-Rob


> Herbert
>

Re: Anyone know where are list mbox files are now?

[Herbert Duerr]

On 18.12.2012 21:19, Rob Weir wrote:

On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 3:12 PM, Regina Henschel
 wrote:

[...]

Does anyone know what is needed to get the archives added back and
maintained?



A Google-search finds the archive
http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/openoffice-dev/



That's a website.  I'm looking to download the actual mbox files, like
we could do before.  That then allows deeper analysis, e.g., number of
unique posters per month, etc.


It's both depending on how you access it. Pointing your browser at. e.g.
  http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/openoffice-dev/201212.mbox
will download the mbox file, whereas

http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/openoffice-dev/201212.mbox/browser
will let you browse the content directly.

Herbert