Re: [QA] my tag [AW080] in Bugzilla
Hi Regina and List, thanks a lot for helping with looking at aw080. Its work in progress, but far enough for some basic testing/playing around. -- ALG (iPad) Am 20.12.2012 um 20:31 schrieb Regina Henschel rb.hensc...@t-online.de: Hi all, please do not wonder about the tag [AW080] in bugzilla. Those issues are about the branch AW080 from Armin. They contain problems I have found and I have submitted them as bugs as reminder. So they are documented and can be tested later on. Feel free to add your results with branch AW080 same way. Kind regards Regina
Re: [PROPOSAL] New Apache OpenOffice 4 logo proposals...
Hi, On 20.12.2012 13:35, janI wrote: I am also no desgner, and like the more fresh look. However I showed to a friend visiting, and the first reaction was...oooh AOO is already ready for windows8, it seems that the 4 squares (not identical) are used quite a lot inside windows8. That was more or less also my reaction - I am not alone. The squares really looking like Windows 8 tiles. Thus, I am currently not favor of this approach. Best regards, Oliver. If that is the case, we should change itmaybe not use squares but e.g. balloons. We also have to remember that it must be convertable (or redrawn) as a favicon, that is only 16x16. thanks for taking time to make the proposal, and despite my concerns it is the best I have seen so far ! Jan. On 20 December 2012 11:02, Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@gmail.com wrote: On 12/20/12 6:14 AM, Shenfeng Liu wrote: imacat, Your comments are so professional! :-) Personally I like this logo design more comparing to other candidates in wiki https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.x+-+Logo+Explorations . Thanks Michael! While we may also want to update the app icon design as the next step for consistent LF... I think Michaels proposal is the beginning of hopefully more. I personally see a reused old orb + some new elements. But the squares remind me to windows and the colors don't fit really together from my point of view. We should think about something really new and fresh with or without the gulls. We should think for what OpenOffice and Apache stands for - free office software for the public good - for many million users all over the world - many languages - We should think about something that can maybe visualize some of these attributes and can transport the message in one or multiple combined graphical elements. Too bad that I am no designer, but I will try to think about ideas and will at least share my ideas with you. Juergen - Shenfeng (Simon) 2012/12/20 imacat ima...@mail.imacat.idv.tw Some honest thoughts: 1. These flat 3D plates feel a little weird. The lights of the plates has the focus effect, but the lights of the plates have not. 2. I cannot see the connection of these plates with our four components easily, as the colors of Writer, Calc, Impress and Base are not Blue, Orange, Green and Purple. And we have other components such as Math and Draw. 3. The directions of the lights are contradictory. The lights of the orb come from above, while the lights of the plates (and also the plate of the orb) come from right. But still, thanks you very much for this great effort. On 2012/12/20 09:33, Michael Acevedo said: Greetings to the AOO Team! Hello, after a few months of inactivity I've decided to get back in touch with the AOO community. First, congratulations to the AOO team on a successful graduation into a top-level Apache project from the Apache Incubator. Now the reason on why I am writing this email is to formally submit a logo proposal for the next version of the Apache OpenOffice 4.X logo. Previously, I submitted an initial logo on the Apache OpenOffice Google+ community but I went back to the drawing board and created a second version of the logo that both pays respect to the previous Apache OpenOffice orb, but modernizes the look of the overall logo by adding 4 colored squares that represent the four corners of our office suite (Writer, Calc, Impress, and Base) and utilizing a streamlined font. Without further introductions, below I present my official submission for the Apache OpenOffice 4.X logo. This first logo, is the proposed official logo for the project that would be used for our webpage and some other materials. https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-lETVSrwcgJc/UNJpH6G1sxI/ABg/JnpNrXdRgUo/s653/AOO%25204%2520LOGO%2520v2-5%2520Small%2520copy.jpg There's a secondary logo, which is basically the same logo but changes the proportion of the OpenOffice orb making it better suited for the splash screen that appears at the launch of the application. https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-uy8gU24uBZw/UNJpH8UiKiI/ABk/xfXTQjO8iQg/s912/AOO%25204%2520LOGO%2520v2-2.png Hope you guys like it and Happy holidays! -- Best regards, imacat ^_*' ima...@mail.imacat.idv.tw PGP Key http://www.imacat.idv.tw/me/pgpkey.asc Woman's Voice News: http://www.wov.idv.tw/ Tavern IMACAT's http://www.imacat.idv.tw/ Woman in FOSS in Taiwan http://wofoss.blogspot.com/ OpenOffice http://www.openoffice.org/ EducOO/OOo4Kids Taiwan http://www.educoo.tw/ Greenfoot Taiwan http://greenfoot.westart.tw/
Re: [proposal] Add Symphony gradients
Hi List, okay, added and comitted. I played around with an office where these are installed, it's really much better to use these gradients. I would even propose to move them to the top of the list, so that they will be seen immediately when looking for a gradient, and not the old ones disturbing the eye. What do you think? Sincerely, Armin On 18.12.2012 15:07, Armin Le Grand wrote: Hi List, when looking at Symphony I saw that there are some much nicer default gradients provided for user's convenience. Our current ones are medium usable (maybe created by developers), but still present in Symphony, too. To easily see what I'm talking about I have created two files: - A Impress doc (http://people.apache.org/~alg/Gradients/gradients.odp) - The same as png (http://people.apache.org/~alg/Gradients/gradients.png) I propose to do the same as in Symphony: Add the lower symphony ones additionally. It's not much space (in the install set ;-)) and offers much nicer to-go gradients. What do you think? Sincerely Armin -- ALG -- ALG
Re: [PROPOSAL] New Apache OpenOffice 4 logo proposals...
Maybe we want something more simplistic then... Let's see what else can I come up with, something without the squares perhaps? At least, we all seem to agree on the way the text for the name OpenOffice looks. Thanks for your insight. On Friday, December 21, 2012, Jürgen Schmidt wrote: On 12/21/12 3:47 AM, Michael Acevedo wrote: Hello again AOO team. As promised, I've 5 additional modified logos for the project (the last jpeg attachment I sent with 4 logos was modified a bit with logos 1 and 3 being slightly tweaked) and can be found in the Cwiki at: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.x+-+Logo+Explorations I've also attached the same logo palletes on this email message. Hope you like these new logos. I think the orb with the mirror and little 3d effect don't fit in all proposals. We should also think about less colors, keeping in mind that we want use it for T-Shirts, mugs, ... and printing/production costs are always higher with many colors as far as know. I don't know if it's really important. Juergen On Thu, Dec 20, 2012 at 5:01 PM, Michael Acevedo vea1...@gmail.comjavascript:; mailto:vea1...@gmail.com wrote: Here's an additional logo proposal. It has four different designs. Hope you like them. On Thursday, December 20, 2012, janI wrote: I really like the pinwheel...and combine it with the suggestion of replacing the flat color with small text, would just make it perfect. I also think it is ok, that blue is in 3d and the pins flats, that seems quite natural to me. Jan. On 20 December 2012 19:51, imacat ima...@mail.imacat.idv.tw wrote: On 2012/12/20 13:06, Michael Acevedo said: Here's my personal insight on the logo decisions when it comes to the amount of squares and coloring scheme. The first is that I tried for hours how to integrate six squares into the logo and the problem that arose was that the logo looked too crowded. As a result I had to strike a compromise, pick the four applications or modules that embody an office suite in general which are the word processor, spreadsheet, presentation module, and database creator. OpenOffice is the only office suite that comes to memory that does have a formula editor and a radically unique graphics drawing program (closest analogue is Microsoft Publisher but Draw is a different animal). I see. But there are other ways of representing the OpenOffice components instead of the square boxes. I tried to make some as attached, although they are not finished works. Please forgive me that I'm not a designer. We can have a more lively design than square boxes. We can give up this idea of showing the components if that is too difficult. But for some people, draw is more important than base. It is simply not right to show only four components. Moving now to the color scheme, the colors for the squares that represent the office suite core components were inspired upon the AOO start center which has icons for the word, spreadsheet, presentation, and database modules. If you look closely, each of the icons there have a color code, the Writer document icon has blue accents, Calc document icon has green accents, Impress icon has orange accents, and the Base -- Best, Michael
Re: [PROPOSAL] New Apache OpenOffice 4 logo proposals...
It's quite unfortunate that this has been the reaction, since it was never intended... Let me see how can I fix that. On Friday, December 21, 2012, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann wrote: Hi, On 20.12.2012 13:35, janI wrote: I am also no desgner, and like the more fresh look. However I showed to a friend visiting, and the first reaction was...oooh AOO is already ready for windows8, it seems that the 4 squares (not identical) are used quite a lot inside windows8. That was more or less also my reaction - I am not alone. The squares really looking like Windows 8 tiles. Thus, I am currently not favor of this approach. Best regards, Oliver. If that is the case, we should change itmaybe not use squares but e.g. balloons. We also have to remember that it must be convertable (or redrawn) as a favicon, that is only 16x16. thanks for taking time to make the proposal, and despite my concerns it is the best I have seen so far ! Jan. On 20 December 2012 11:02, Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@gmail.com wrote: On 12/20/12 6:14 AM, Shenfeng Liu wrote: imacat, Your comments are so professional! :-) Personally I like this logo design more comparing to other candidates in wiki https://cwiki.apache.org/**confluence/display/OOOUSERS/** AOO+4.x+-+Logo+Explorationshttps://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.x+-+Logo+Explorations . Thanks Michael! While we may also want to update the app icon design as the next step for consistent LF... I think Michaels proposal is the beginning of hopefully more. I personally see a reused old orb + some new elements. But the squares remind me to windows and the colors don't fit really together from my point of view. We should think about something really new and fresh with or without the gulls. We should think for what OpenOffice and Apache stands for - free office software for the public good - for many million users all over the world - many languages - We should think about something that can maybe visualize some of these attributes and can transport the message in one or multiple combined graphical elements. Too bad that I am no designer, but I will try to think about ideas and will at least share my ideas with you. Juergen - Shenfeng (Simon) 2012/12/20 imacat ima...@mail.imacat.idv.tw Some honest thoughts: 1. These flat 3D plates feel a little weird. The lights of the plates has the focus effect, but the lights of the plates have not. 2. I cannot see the connection of these plates with our four components easily, as the colors of Writer, Calc, Impress and Base are not Blue, Orange, Green and Purple. And we have other components such as Math and Draw. 3. The directions of the lights are contradictory. The lights of the orb come from above, while the lights of the plates (and also the plate of the orb) come from right. But still, thanks you very much for this great effort. On 2012/12/20 09:33, Michael Acevedo said: Greetings to the AOO Team! Hello, after a few months of inactivity I've decided to get back in touch with the AOO community. First, congratulations to the AOO team on a successful graduation into a top-level Apache project from the Apache Incubator. Now the reason on why I am writing this email is to formally submit a logo proposal for the next version of the Apache OpenOffice 4.X logo. Previously, I submitted an initial logo on the Apache OpenOffice Google+ community but I went back to the drawing board and created a second -- Best, Michael
Re: [proposal] Add Symphony gradients
On 12/21/12 12:19 PM, Armin Le Grand wrote: Hi List, okay, added and comitted. I played around with an office where these are installed, it's really much better to use these gradients. I would even propose to move them to the top of the list, so that they will be seen immediately when looking for a gradient, and not the old ones disturbing the eye. What do you think? good idea and we can think about the removal of some old ones Juergen Sincerely, Armin On 18.12.2012 15:07, Armin Le Grand wrote: Hi List, when looking at Symphony I saw that there are some much nicer default gradients provided for user's convenience. Our current ones are medium usable (maybe created by developers), but still present in Symphony, too. To easily see what I'm talking about I have created two files: - A Impress doc (http://people.apache.org/~alg/Gradients/gradients.odp) - The same as png (http://people.apache.org/~alg/Gradients/gradients.png) I propose to do the same as in Symphony: Add the lower symphony ones additionally. It's not much space (in the install set ;-)) and offers much nicer to-go gradients. What do you think? Sincerely Armin -- ALG -- ALG
Re: [proposal] Add Symphony gradients
On 21.12.2012 13:13, Jürgen Schmidt wrote: On 12/21/12 12:19 PM, Armin Le Grand wrote: Hi List, okay, added and comitted. I played around with an office where these are installed, it's really much better to use these gradients. I would even propose to move them to the top of the list, so that they will be seen immediately when looking for a gradient, and not the old ones disturbing the eye. What do you think? good idea and we can think about the removal of some old ones How about: - moving the three Symphony grey to the top, followed by the rest (when just moving all symphony to the top, yellow would be first, I think grey is better) - Keep the old (removing is always hard, which to remove?), but sort them a little bit to look better. Move the most useful ones more to the top (but after symphony ones) Useful ones from the old: gradient 1 gradient 3 linear blue/white linear yellow/brown radial red/yellow axial light red/white the rest...maybe really remove... Juergen Sincerely, Armin On 18.12.2012 15:07, Armin Le Grand wrote: Hi List, when looking at Symphony I saw that there are some much nicer default gradients provided for user's convenience. Our current ones are medium usable (maybe created by developers), but still present in Symphony, too. To easily see what I'm talking about I have created two files: - A Impress doc (http://people.apache.org/~alg/Gradients/gradients.odp) - The same as png (http://people.apache.org/~alg/Gradients/gradients.png) I propose to do the same as in Symphony: Add the lower symphony ones additionally. It's not much space (in the install set ;-)) and offers much nicer to-go gradients. What do you think? Sincerely Armin -- ALG -- ALG
Re: Is support for legacy file formats saved?
Jürgen Schmidt schrieb: On 12/20/12 8:17 PM, Ralf Lehmeier wrote: Hello! LO has removed all files with the 4.0 up to and including StarOffice 5.2 support. LO 4.0 with the old files can no longer work. What is the plan in AOO? Will there be support for this in the future too? no, we plan to drop these old formats as well. This was planned since a long time for OpenOffice and even long before go-oo was renamed in LO. The reason is a technical one, the filter code have to be maintained in a special library and it is always a lot of work, especially when you want to do some core changes. The usage of the old formats is rather seldom and you can use any OpenOffice version 4.0 to convert any of these files in a newer format which is recommended anyway. Do they at least have an extension to old files to read at least? There are certainly many problems with archived or left behind files, which can then no longer be read .. Too bad there was a reason to return. Best regards R.Lehmeier
Re: Is support for legacy file formats saved?
On 12/21/12 2:00 PM, Ralf Lehmeier wrote: Jürgen Schmidt schrieb: On 12/20/12 8:17 PM, Ralf Lehmeier wrote: Hello! LO has removed all files with the 4.0 up to and including StarOffice 5.2 support. LO 4.0 with the old files can no longer work. What is the plan in AOO? Will there be support for this in the future too? no, we plan to drop these old formats as well. This was planned since a long time for OpenOffice and even long before go-oo was renamed in LO. The reason is a technical one, the filter code have to be maintained in a special library and it is always a lot of work, especially when you want to do some core changes. The usage of the old formats is rather seldom and you can use any OpenOffice version 4.0 to convert any of these files in a newer format which is recommended anyway. Do they at least have an extension to old files to read at least? no, an extension or in the office directly doesn't change the maintenance effort. There are certainly many problems with archived or left behind files, which can then no longer be read .. if it's important I would suggest to keep a system alive with an AOO3.4.1 version installed. Think about any other software that is end of life and not longer supported or maintained. If you have requirements to use such software to access archived files you have to ensure that you preserve a system where the software is installed. You will always find people who rely on such old formats or filter but we have to look forward. Workarounds exist and that is important, it don't have to be the latest AOO version ;-) Juergen Too bad there was a reason to return. Best regards R.Lehmeier
[Review Request] Re: Adapt the naming of our project deliverables - OpenOffice.org -- Apache OpenOffice
Hi, I have finished my work regarding the adaption of the naming - see patch at issue 121388 [1]. The patch also contains the renaming of the installation directories and the package names. Thus, please try out this patch in your environment. [1] https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=121388 Best regards, Oliver. P.S.: I will relax a little bit in the next two weeks - means a longer reaction time on my side. On 12.12.2012 11:03, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann wrote: Hi, On 23.11.2012 15:03, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann wrote: Hi, On 23.11.2012 13:04, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann wrote: Hi, as we had changed our 'project name' from OpenOffice.org to Apache OpenOffice it makes sense to reflect this change also in our source and the product based on our source. We had already made some basic and limited renaming - start center, splash screen, ... -, but it is not complete. May be you remember Armin's work on it for our AOO 3.4 (incubating) release on branch alg/install. As Armin figured out that the change would be too risky, we decided to postpone this name adaption to the next major release. Thus, I decided to pick up this issue with the goal to solve it for our next coming major release. As there are certain different usages of the name and its variants - e.g., visible name of the product, name of the installation directory, ... - which impacts quite different areas of our project help is very welcome here. I will start with investigating Armin's work and documenting the different usages. I have submit issue 121388 [1] for this task. [1] https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=121388 I searched for string OpenOffice.org (and its variants) in our source code. I documented my findings in the wiki [1]. There are still some question marks and I will continue to fill these gaps. Anybody interested in this area is welcome to help or to just have a look and provide feedback. I will document the changes also in the wiki. Best regards, Oliver. [1] http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Name_the_beast
[RELEASE] Respin snapshot builds for early verification available
Hi, before I go on Christmas vacation I have built snapshots for our upcoming AOO 3.4.1 respin to support further languages. I create a build for Danish, Swedish, Polish, Norwegian Bokmal, Scottish Gaelic and Korean. Danish is not 100% up-to-date because we ran in some errors. I will prepare a new build asap. Korean do I have included but it is hopefully not the final version. New languages will be still accepted until Jan. 4th, 2013 You can find the snapshots under http://people.apache.org/~jsc/respin_aoo341/ Juergen
Re: is a bug ?
Hi Galileo, On 2012/12/20 9:44 PM, you wrote: to execute command soffice --headless --acept=socket,port=8100;urp; i get fontconfig warning /usr/lib/libreoffice/share/fonts/truetype/fc_local.conf line 13: having multiple family in alias ins't supported and may not works as expected This is just a warning about unimplemented syntax in fontconfig: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/fontconfig/2012-February/003788.html The syntax would make sense but as the library doesn't follow it it is good that it at least emits a warning about that. Until this becomes supported we should replace the occurences, I opened an issue for that [1]. Having briefly looked into it it is unlikely that anyone is hit by the problem though. [1] https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=121535 Herbert
Re: [PROPOSAL] New Apache OpenOffice 4 logo proposals...
Hi Michael, thanks for investigating here. While I like the original orb and the colored rects seem to lead to windows trademark stuff, what about: - only slightly changing the AOO logo - replacing the orb with a shape also very popular today - keeping the color, keeping the seagulls ...but as shape, take the now famous 'app' form - a rounded rectangle instead of the orb, using exactly the dimensions of app logos, and the color blending of app logos (they use some 'bow' on the middle, making the upper half slightly lighter than the lower one). Just as on iOS devices. Maybe looking nice ;-) Will look modern :-) HTH! Sincerely, Armin On 20.12.2012 02:33, Michael Acevedo wrote: Greetings to the AOO Team! Hello, after a few months of inactivity I've decided to get back in touch with the AOO community. First, congratulations to the AOO team on a successful graduation into a top-level Apache project from the Apache Incubator. Now the reason on why I am writing this email is to formally submit a logo proposal for the next version of the Apache OpenOffice 4.X logo. Previously, I submitted an initial logo on the Apache OpenOffice Google+ community but I went back to the drawing board and created a second version of the logo that both pays respect to the previous Apache OpenOffice orb, but modernizes the look of the overall logo by adding 4 colored squares that represent the four corners of our office suite (Writer, Calc, Impress, and Base) and utilizing a streamlined font. Without further introductions, below I present my official submission for the Apache OpenOffice 4.X logo. This first logo, is the proposed official logo for the project that would be used for our webpage and some other materials. https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-lETVSrwcgJc/UNJpH6G1sxI/ABg/JnpNrXdRgUo/s653/AOO%25204%2520LOGO%2520v2-5%2520Small%2520copy.jpg There's a secondary logo, which is basically the same logo but changes the proportion of the OpenOffice orb making it better suited for the splash screen that appears at the launch of the application. https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-uy8gU24uBZw/UNJpH8UiKiI/ABk/xfXTQjO8iQg/s912/AOO%25204%2520LOGO%2520v2-2.png Hope you guys like it and Happy holidays!
Re: [PROPOSAL] New Apache OpenOffice 4 logo proposals...
Hello Armin, I was tempted to make a rounded corner marquee for the current logo but desisted of the idea after the vereditct of the Apple v. Samsung case where they were able to sue Samsung on using rounded corners for apps on their flavor of android. Still I find the rounded corners tempting and is actually reflected on the second logo that appeared on the last jpeg file I sent yesterday. All of these are good suggestions and I am now thinking of something on updating the orb, maybe keeping the basic shape of the logo which is a circle. I am rambbling here but I might be able to come up with something tangible during the next few hours. Now the only thing I would need to find is an EPS or PSD high-res version of the AOO gulls. Where can I find that? Thanks for the suggestions. On Friday, December 21, 2012, Armin Le Grand wrote: Hi Michael, thanks for investigating here. While I like the original orb and the colored rects seem to lead to windows trademark stuff, what about: - only slightly changing the AOO logo - replacing the orb with a shape also very popular today - keeping the color, keeping the seagulls ...but as shape, take the now famous 'app' form - a rounded rectangle instead of the orb, using exactly the dimensions of app logos, and the color blending of app logos (they use some 'bow' on the middle, making the upper half slightly lighter than the lower one). Just as on iOS devices. Maybe looking nice ;-) Will look modern :-) HTH! Sincerely, Armin On 20.12.2012 02:33, Michael Acevedo wrote: Greetings to the AOO Team! Hello, after a few months of inactivity I've decided to get back in touch with the AOO community. First, congratulations to the AOO team on a successful graduation into a top-level Apache project from the Apache Incubator. Now the reason on why I am writing this email is to formally submit a logo proposal for the next version of the Apache OpenOffice 4.X logo. Previously, I submitted an initial logo on the Apache OpenOffice Google+ community but I went back to the drawing board and created a second version of the logo that both pays respect to the previous Apache OpenOffice orb, but modernizes the look of the overall logo by adding 4 colored squares that represent the four corners of our office suite (Writer, Calc, Impress, and Base) and utilizing a streamlined font. Without further introductions, below I present my official submission for the Apache OpenOffice 4.X logo. This first logo, is the proposed official logo for the project that would be used for our webpage and some other materials. https://lh3.googleusercontent.**com/-lETVSrwcgJc/UNJpH6G1sxI/** ABg/JnpNrXdRgUo/s653/**AOO%25204%2520LOGO%2520v2-5%** 2520Small%2520copy.jpghttps://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-lETVSrwcgJc/UNJpH6G1sxI/ABg/JnpNrXdRgUo/s653/AOO%25204%2520LOGO%2520v2-5%2520Small%2520copy.jpg There's a secondary logo, which is basically the same logo but changes the proportion of the OpenOffice orb making it better suited for the splash screen that appears at the launch of the application. https://lh4.googleusercontent.**com/-uy8gU24uBZw/UNJpH8UiKiI/** ABk/xfXTQjO8iQg/s912/**AOO%25204%2520LOGO%2520v2-2.**pnghttps://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-uy8gU24uBZw/UNJpH8UiKiI/ABk/xfXTQjO8iQg/s912/AOO%25204%2520LOGO%2520v2-2.png Hope you guys like it and Happy holidays! -- Best, Michael
Re: [PROPOSAL] New Apache OpenOffice 4 logo proposals...
Hi Michael, this (https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openoffice/ooo-site/trunk/content/images/AOO_logos/) might help, these are the checked-in logos. You can access it with a browser. Look at the SVG directory there; I am not sure if the complete gulls will be extractable; I fear they are 'cut', but maybe repaired by using the other wing. Looking forward to your suggestions :) Sincerely, Armin On 21.12.2012 17:48, Michael Acevedo wrote: Hello Armin, I was tempted to make a rounded corner marquee for the current logo but desisted of the idea after the vereditct of the Apple v. Samsung case where they were able to sue Samsung on using rounded corners for apps on their flavor of android. Still I find the rounded corners tempting and is actually reflected on the second logo that appeared on the last jpeg file I sent yesterday. All of these are good suggestions and I am now thinking of something on updating the orb, maybe keeping the basic shape of the logo which is a circle. I am rambbling here but I might be able to come up with something tangible during the next few hours. Now the only thing I would need to find is an EPS or PSD high-res version of the AOO gulls. Where can I find that? Thanks for the suggestions. On Friday, December 21, 2012, Armin Le Grand wrote: Hi Michael, thanks for investigating here. While I like the original orb and the colored rects seem to lead to windows trademark stuff, what about: - only slightly changing the AOO logo - replacing the orb with a shape also very popular today - keeping the color, keeping the seagulls ...but as shape, take the now famous 'app' form - a rounded rectangle instead of the orb, using exactly the dimensions of app logos, and the color blending of app logos (they use some 'bow' on the middle, making the upper half slightly lighter than the lower one). Just as on iOS devices. Maybe looking nice ;-) Will look modern :-) HTH! Sincerely, Armin On 20.12.2012 02:33, Michael Acevedo wrote: Greetings to the AOO Team! Hello, after a few months of inactivity I've decided to get back in touch with the AOO community. First, congratulations to the AOO team on a successful graduation into a top-level Apache project from the Apache Incubator. Now the reason on why I am writing this email is to formally submit a logo proposal for the next version of the Apache OpenOffice 4.X logo. Previously, I submitted an initial logo on the Apache OpenOffice Google+ community but I went back to the drawing board and created a second version of the logo that both pays respect to the previous Apache OpenOffice orb, but modernizes the look of the overall logo by adding 4 colored squares that represent the four corners of our office suite (Writer, Calc, Impress, and Base) and utilizing a streamlined font. Without further introductions, below I present my official submission for the Apache OpenOffice 4.X logo. This first logo, is the proposed official logo for the project that would be used for our webpage and some other materials. https://lh3.googleusercontent.**com/-lETVSrwcgJc/UNJpH6G1sxI/** ABg/JnpNrXdRgUo/s653/**AOO%25204%2520LOGO%2520v2-5%** 2520Small%2520copy.jpghttps://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-lETVSrwcgJc/UNJpH6G1sxI/ABg/JnpNrXdRgUo/s653/AOO%25204%2520LOGO%2520v2-5%2520Small%2520copy.jpg There's a secondary logo, which is basically the same logo but changes the proportion of the OpenOffice orb making it better suited for the splash screen that appears at the launch of the application. https://lh4.googleusercontent.**com/-uy8gU24uBZw/UNJpH8UiKiI/** ABk/xfXTQjO8iQg/s912/**AOO%25204%2520LOGO%2520v2-2.**pnghttps://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-uy8gU24uBZw/UNJpH8UiKiI/ABk/xfXTQjO8iQg/s912/AOO%25204%2520LOGO%2520v2-2.png Hope you guys like it and Happy holidays!
Emanuel Antonio de Almeida is out of the office.
I will be out of the office starting 21/12/2012 and will not return until 03/12/2013. Para qualquer assunto relacionado com o Suporte Unidades, contate o Help Desk. Please, to any subject, please send your message for Help Desk.
[WEBSITE] Holiday logo version
Forwarding here a discussion from ooo-marketing. Alexandro said it would be nice to have a themed variant of the logo online for the next two weeks, as we have historically done over the years, and he provided a holiday version of the old logo temporarily available at http://imagebin.org/240155 Would it be possible to have a similarly tweaked version of http://www.openoffice.org/images/AOO_logos/OOo_Website_v2_copy.png to temporarily replace the one on the website? Regards, Andrea.
Re: [WEBSITE] Holiday logo version
On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 2:14 PM, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org wrote: Forwarding here a discussion from ooo-marketing. Alexandro said it would be nice to have a themed variant of the logo online for the next two weeks, as we have historically done over the years, and he provided a holiday version of the old logo temporarily available at http://imagebin.org/240155 Would it be possible to have a similarly tweaked version of http://www.openoffice.org/images/AOO_logos/OOo_Website_v2_copy.png to temporarily replace the one on the website? Technically this is easy. Check in the new logo, say into ooo-site/images/holidays/christmas-2012.png Then edit this file: https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openoffice/ooo-site/trunk/content/brand.mdtext And change the logo line to point to holidays/christmas-2012.png I can do that website integration task if someone can provide the new artwork. The starting point for the artwork is here: http://www.openoffice.org/images/AOO_logos/OOo_Website_v2_copy.png Regards, -Rob -Rob Regards, Andrea.
Re: [WEBSITE] Holiday logo version
2012/12/21 Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org Forwarding here a discussion from ooo-marketing. Alexandro said it would be nice to have a themed variant of the logo online for the next two weeks, as we have historically done over the years, and he provided a holiday version of the old logo temporarily available at http://imagebin.org/240155 Would it be possible to have a similarly tweaked version of http://www.openoffice.org/**images/AOO_logos/OOo_Website_**v2_copy.pnghttp://www.openoffice.org/images/AOO_logos/OOo_Website_v2_copy.png to temporarily replace the one on the website? Regards, Andrea. Maybe because I spent several years of my life on the southern hemisphere, I always find those winter logos a bit out of place... I'm not against them but, is it not possible to do something more global? I mean, something that do not refers to winter or to a religious festivity... for example, what about a calendar turning page? Imagine the AOO logo on two pages, one with a 2012 and the other with a 2013 on bottom right, and the first one is being turned to show the second. Just my 2¢ Regards Ricardo
Re: [WEBSITE] Holiday logo version
I've attached my candidates to this email. Let me know if you can see them. Logo #1 puts a santa hat on the orb and tweaks the colors of the word OpenOffice to the typical red and green of the season. Logo #2 makes the orb a decorated ball. The coloring of the word OpenOffice remains the same... Hope you like them... On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 2:14 PM, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.orgwrote: Forwarding here a discussion from ooo-marketing. Alexandro said it would be nice to have a themed variant of the logo online for the next two weeks, as we have historically done over the years, and he provided a holiday version of the old logo temporarily available at http://imagebin.org/240155 Would it be possible to have a similarly tweaked version of http://www.openoffice.org/**images/AOO_logos/OOo_Website_**v2_copy.pnghttp://www.openoffice.org/images/AOO_logos/OOo_Website_v2_copy.png to temporarily replace the one on the website? Regards, Andrea. -- Best, Michael
Re: [PROPOSAL] New Apache OpenOffice 4 logo proposals...
Thanks for the links with logos Armin, I will examine them shortly... Have a good afternoon... On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 1:23 PM, Armin Le Grand armin.le.gr...@me.comwrote: Hi Michael, this (https://svn.apache.org/repos/**asf/openoffice/ooo-site/trunk/** content/images/AOO_logos/https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openoffice/ooo-site/trunk/content/images/AOO_logos/) might help, these are the checked-in logos. You can access it with a browser. Look at the SVG directory there; I am not sure if the complete gulls will be extractable; I fear they are 'cut', but maybe repaired by using the other wing. Looking forward to your suggestions :) Sincerely, Armin On 21.12.2012 17:48, Michael Acevedo wrote: Hello Armin, I was tempted to make a rounded corner marquee for the current logo but desisted of the idea after the vereditct of the Apple v. Samsung case where they were able to sue Samsung on using rounded corners for apps on their flavor of android. Still I find the rounded corners tempting and is actually reflected on the second logo that appeared on the last jpeg file I sent yesterday. All of these are good suggestions and I am now thinking of something on updating the orb, maybe keeping the basic shape of the logo which is a circle. I am rambbling here but I might be able to come up with something tangible during the next few hours. Now the only thing I would need to find is an EPS or PSD high-res version of the AOO gulls. Where can I find that? Thanks for the suggestions. On Friday, December 21, 2012, Armin Le Grand wrote: Hi Michael, thanks for investigating here. While I like the original orb and the colored rects seem to lead to windows trademark stuff, what about: - only slightly changing the AOO logo - replacing the orb with a shape also very popular today - keeping the color, keeping the seagulls ...but as shape, take the now famous 'app' form - a rounded rectangle instead of the orb, using exactly the dimensions of app logos, and the color blending of app logos (they use some 'bow' on the middle, making the upper half slightly lighter than the lower one). Just as on iOS devices. Maybe looking nice ;-) Will look modern :-) HTH! Sincerely, Armin On 20.12.2012 02:33, Michael Acevedo wrote: Greetings to the AOO Team! Hello, after a few months of inactivity I've decided to get back in touch with the AOO community. First, congratulations to the AOO team on a successful graduation into a top-level Apache project from the Apache Incubator. Now the reason on why I am writing this email is to formally submit a logo proposal for the next version of the Apache OpenOffice 4.X logo. Previously, I submitted an initial logo on the Apache OpenOffice Google+ community but I went back to the drawing board and created a second version of the logo that both pays respect to the previous Apache OpenOffice orb, but modernizes the look of the overall logo by adding 4 colored squares that represent the four corners of our office suite (Writer, Calc, Impress, and Base) and utilizing a streamlined font. Without further introductions, below I present my official submission for the Apache OpenOffice 4.X logo. This first logo, is the proposed official logo for the project that would be used for our webpage and some other materials. https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-lETVSrwcgJc/**UNJpH6G1sxI/** ABg/JnpNrXdRgUo/s653/AOO%25204%2520LOGO%2520v2-5% 2520Small%2520copy.jpghttps:/**/lh3.googleusercontent.com/-** lETVSrwcgJc/UNJpH6G1sxI/**ABg/JnpNrXdRgUo/s653/** AOO%25204%2520LOGO%2520v2-5%**2520Small%2520copy.jpghttps://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-lETVSrwcgJc/UNJpH6G1sxI/ABg/JnpNrXdRgUo/s653/AOO%25204%2520LOGO%2520v2-5%2520Small%2520copy.jpg There's a secondary logo, which is basically the same logo but changes the proportion of the OpenOffice orb making it better suited for the splash screen that appears at the launch of the application. https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-uy8gU24uBZw/**UNJpH8UiKiI/** ABk/xfXTQjO8iQg/s912/AOO%25204%2520LOGO%2520v2-2.png https://lh4.**googleusercontent.com/-**uy8gU24uBZw/UNJpH8UiKiI/** ABk/xfXTQjO8iQg/s912/**AOO%25204%2520LOGO%2520v2-2.**pnghttps://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-uy8gU24uBZw/UNJpH8UiKiI/ABk/xfXTQjO8iQg/s912/AOO%25204%2520LOGO%2520v2-2.png Hope you guys like it and Happy holidays! -- Best, Michael
Re: [WEBSITE] Holiday logo version
+1 even the streets are illuminated now, so lets change it, as suggested with what we have, and do something well ahead of time next year. jan. On 21 December 2012 22:06, Alexandro Colorado j...@oooes.org wrote: On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 1:34 PM, RGB ES rgb.m...@gmail.com wrote: 2012/12/21 Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org Forwarding here a discussion from ooo-marketing. Alexandro said it would be nice to have a themed variant of the logo online for the next two weeks, as we have historically done over the years, and he provided a holiday version of the old logo temporarily available at http://imagebin.org/240155 Would it be possible to have a similarly tweaked version of http://www.openoffice.org/**images/AOO_logos/OOo_Website_**v2_copy.png http://www.openoffice.org/images/AOO_logos/OOo_Website_v2_copy.png to temporarily replace the one on the website? Regards, Andrea. Maybe because I spent several years of my life on the southern hemisphere, I always find those winter logos a bit out of place... I'm not against them but, is it not possible to do something more global? I mean, something that do not refers to winter or to a religious festivity... for example, what about a calendar turning page? Imagine the AOO logo on two pages, one with a 2012 and the other with a 2013 on bottom right, and the first one is being turned to show the second. Every year we have this discussion and eventually end up compliant with a Christmas theme. You can read that on the archieves. From a marketing point of view, I think is just important to do more than reach to an absolute conclusion, just because is pointless to agree on this and start doing something in January. Also I think is pointless to discuss art we don't have. If there is already an alternative and complete proposal then I think it would make more sense as long as is before they key dates. Just my 2¢ Regards Ricardo -- Alexandro Colorado Apache OpenOffice Contributor http://es.openoffice.org
[new bug] Msg text translation problem
For general information, I have added a new bug 121536, regarding problems with translations. The content of the msg text in the source code is non translatable due to ambiguity. [xxx] means normally a variable will be inserted here example: [Time] may NOT be translated but [l] (for load) should be translated. xxx means normally XML and should not be translated: example: variable id=janhello/variable may NOT be translated but -p file should be translated. $xxx means normally a variable will be inserted here example: $id may NOT be translated but $100 dollar should be translated. Now try to explain that to our translators, it is easier to change the source texts ! If nobody objects I will solve this bug, alongside with the oracle changes. Rgds Jan I.
Re: [WEBSITE] Holiday logo version
Michael Acevedo wrote: I've attached my candidates to this email. Let me know if you can see them. Thanks! Unfortunately, they didn't reach the list so nobody could see them. It's better to upload them to http://imagebin.org/ or somewhere. Logo #1 puts a santa hat on the orb and tweaks the colors of the word OpenOffice to the typical red and green of the season. Logo #2 makes the orb a decorated ball. The coloring of the word OpenOffice remains the same... Reading the descriptions, the solutions seem quite creative! But with the logo we must be careful, meaning: adding themed elements to the logo is OK, while replacing the orb or the colors should probably be avoided, to make sure visitors are not confused (this logo will be seen 800K times a day, and there are enough OpenOffice ripoff sites around for visitors to be quite paranoid). So I'd rather put online a version that adds elements instead of altering the current orb/colors... but out of personal curiosity I'd also be happy to see #1 and #2 above too! Regards, Andrea.
Re: [WEBSITE] Holiday logo version
I really like the santa variant, but I totally agree with andrea that the logo as such should be our current logo. You really have a touch for design !! Jan I. On 21 December 2012 23:30, Michael Acevedo vea1...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Andrea, I uploaded the logos to a Picasa Web album and should be accessible on the link below. I took a conservative approach and only change the coloring of the words Open and Office with the colors of the season. The change is nothing out of this world. You may see the two variants here: https://picasaweb.google.com/102338277738893050711/AOOHolidayLogos?authuser=0authkey=Gv1sRgCMnEnLzl7sKgOAfeat=directlink Hope you like them. On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 5:20 PM, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org wrote: Michael Acevedo wrote: I've attached my candidates to this email. Let me know if you can see them. Thanks! Unfortunately, they didn't reach the list so nobody could see them. It's better to upload them to http://imagebin.org/ or somewhere. Logo #1 puts a santa hat on the orb and tweaks the colors of the word OpenOffice to the typical red and green of the season. Logo #2 makes the orb a decorated ball. The coloring of the word OpenOffice remains the same... Reading the descriptions, the solutions seem quite creative! But with the logo we must be careful, meaning: adding themed elements to the logo is OK, while replacing the orb or the colors should probably be avoided, to make sure visitors are not confused (this logo will be seen 800K times a day, and there are enough OpenOffice ripoff sites around for visitors to be quite paranoid). So I'd rather put online a version that adds elements instead of altering the current orb/colors... but out of personal curiosity I'd also be happy to see #1 and #2 above too! Regards, Andrea. -- Best, Michael
Re: [RELEASE] Respin snapshot builds for early verification available
On 21 December 2012 23:35, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org wrote: Jürgen Schmidt wrote: before I go on Christmas vacation I have built snapshots for our upcoming AOO 3.4.1 respin to support further languages. http://people.apache.org/~jsc/**respin_aoo341/http://people.apache.org/~jsc/respin_aoo341/ Access forbidden when clicking on files: this must be fixed, but it's great to have AOO340 builds available. when running chmod then may also remove incubating part of the name :-) I create a build for Danish, Swedish, Polish, Norwegian Bokmal, Scottish Gaelic and Korean. Shall we then change the Please help with translation announcement on the relevant home pages into something like OpenOffice 3.4.1 in [LANGUAGE] will be released in January 2013! Please help us in testing it: e-mail l...@openoffice.apache.org -1 For danish I would prefer not. We announced several month ago that a release was close, becuase the translation was ready...so this time I would prefer to wait until we can actually show something. And I also understood from the very detailed license discussions, that we are not allowed to publicly announce dev-builds...but maybe this is a special case (as I have been trying to push for a long time). (possibly including list subscription information)? Regards, Andrea.
Re: [WEBSITE] Holiday logo version
Jahl, Would you like me to return the OpenOffice words to their original color then? It's a quick fix. On Friday, December 21, 2012, janI wrote: I really like the santa variant, but I totally agree with andrea that the logo as such should be our current logo. You really have a touch for design !! Jan I. On 21 December 2012 23:30, Michael Acevedo vea1...@gmail.comjavascript:; wrote: Hello Andrea, I uploaded the logos to a Picasa Web album and should be accessible on the link below. I took a conservative approach and only change the coloring of the words Open and Office with the colors of the season. The change is nothing out of this world. You may see the two variants here: AOOHolidayLogos | 102338277738893050711https://picasaweb.google.com/102338277738893050711/AOOHolidayLogos?authuser=0authkey=Gv1sRgCMnEnLzl7sKgOAfeat=directlink Hope you like them. On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 5:20 PM, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.orgjavascript:; wrote: Michael Acevedo wrote: I've attached my candidates to this email. Let me know if you can see them. Thanks! Unfortunately, they didn't reach the list so nobody could see them. It's better to upload them to http://imagebin.org/ or somewhere. Logo #1 puts a santa hat on the orb and tweaks the colors of the word OpenOffice to the typical red and green of the season. Logo #2 makes the orb a decorated ball. The coloring of the word OpenOffice remains the same... Reading the descriptions, the solutions seem quite creative! But with the logo we must be careful, meaning: adding themed elements to the logo is OK, while replacing the orb or the colors should probably be avoided, to make sure visitors are not confused (this logo will be seen 800K times a day, and there are enough OpenOffice ripoff sites around for visitors to be quite paranoid). So I'd rather put online a version that adds elements instead of altering the current orb/colors... but out of personal curiosity I'd also be happy to see #1 and #2 above too! Regards, Andrea. -- Best, Michael -- Best, Michael
Re: [WEBSITE] Holiday logo version
The santa with the original log (I also think you removed the tm) would be just perfect for me...however that is just my opinion and I understood that rob could upload it fast...that would be real nice. Have a nice evening/day jan On 21 December 2012 23:44, Michael Acevedo vea1...@gmail.com wrote: Jahl, Would you like me to return the OpenOffice words to their original color then? It's a quick fix. On Friday, December 21, 2012, janI wrote: I really like the santa variant, but I totally agree with andrea that the logo as such should be our current logo. You really have a touch for design !! Jan I. On 21 December 2012 23:30, Michael Acevedo vea1...@gmail.com javascript:; wrote: Hello Andrea, I uploaded the logos to a Picasa Web album and should be accessible on the link below. I took a conservative approach and only change the coloring of the words Open and Office with the colors of the season. The change is nothing out of this world. You may see the two variants here: AOOHolidayLogos | 102338277738893050711 https://picasaweb.google.com/102338277738893050711/AOOHolidayLogos?authuser=0authkey=Gv1sRgCMnEnLzl7sKgOAfeat=directlink Hope you like them. On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 5:20 PM, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org javascript:; wrote: Michael Acevedo wrote: I've attached my candidates to this email. Let me know if you can see them. Thanks! Unfortunately, they didn't reach the list so nobody could see them. It's better to upload them to http://imagebin.org/ or somewhere. Logo #1 puts a santa hat on the orb and tweaks the colors of the word OpenOffice to the typical red and green of the season. Logo #2 makes the orb a decorated ball. The coloring of the word OpenOffice remains the same... Reading the descriptions, the solutions seem quite creative! But with the logo we must be careful, meaning: adding themed elements to the logo is OK, while replacing the orb or the colors should probably be avoided, to make sure visitors are not confused (this logo will be seen 800K times a day, and there are enough OpenOffice ripoff sites around for visitors to be quite paranoid). So I'd rather put online a version that adds elements instead of altering the current orb/colors... but out of personal curiosity I'd also be happy to see #1 and #2 above too! Regards, Andrea. -- Best, Michael -- Best, Michael
Re: [WEBSITE] Holiday logo version
The Trademark sign is there. I will perform the fix tonight and upload it to the same album. On Friday, December 21, 2012, janI wrote: The santa with the original log (I also think you removed the tm) would be just perfect for me...however that is just my opinion and I understood that rob could upload it fast...that would be real nice. Have a nice evening/day jan On 21 December 2012 23:44, Michael Acevedo vea1...@gmail.comjavascript:; wrote: Jahl, Would you like me to return the OpenOffice words to their original color then? It's a quick fix. On Friday, December 21, 2012, janI wrote: I really like the santa variant, but I totally agree with andrea that the logo as such should be our current logo. You really have a touch for design !! Jan I. On 21 December 2012 23:30, Michael Acevedo vea1...@gmail.comjavascript:; javascript:; wrote: Hello Andrea, I uploaded the logos to a Picasa Web album and should be accessible on the link below. I took a conservative approach and only change the coloring of the words Open and Office with the colors of the season. The change is nothing out of this world. You may see the two variants here: AOOHolidayLogos | 102338277738893050711 AOOHolidayLogos | 102338277738893050711https://picasaweb.google.com/102338277738893050711/AOOHolidayLogos?authuser=0authkey=Gv1sRgCMnEnLzl7sKgOAfeat=directlink Hope you like them. On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 5:20 PM, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org javascript:; javascript:; wrote: Michael Acevedo wrote: I've attached my candidates to this email. Let me know if you can see them. Thanks! Unfortunately, they didn't reach the list so nobody could see them. It's better to upload them to http://imagebin.org/ or somewhere. Logo #1 puts a santa hat on the orb and tweaks the colors of the word OpenOffice to the typical red and green of the season. Logo #2 makes the orb a decorated ball. The coloring of the word OpenOffice remains the same... Reading the descriptions, the solutions seem quite creative! But with the logo we must be careful, meaning: adding themed elements to the logo is OK, while replacing the orb or the colors should probably be avoided, to make sure visitors are not confused (this logo will be seen 800K times a day, and there are enough OpenOffice ripoff sites around for visitors to be quite paranoid). So I'd rather put online a version that adds elements instead of altering the current orb/colors... but out of personal curiosity I'd also be happy to see #1 and #2 above too! Regards, Andrea. -- Best, Michael -- Best, Michael -- Best, Michael
Re: [WEBSITE] Holiday logo version
On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 4:53 PM, Michael Acevedo vea1...@gmail.com wrote: The Trademark sign is there. I will perform the fix tonight and upload it to the same album. Please use the SVG. Imagebin supports this file format and is just better for everyone to apply changes to a vectorial image. On Friday, December 21, 2012, janI wrote: The santa with the original log (I also think you removed the tm) would be just perfect for me...however that is just my opinion and I understood that rob could upload it fast...that would be real nice. Have a nice evening/day jan On 21 December 2012 23:44, Michael Acevedo vea1...@gmail.com javascript:; wrote: Jahl, Would you like me to return the OpenOffice words to their original color then? It's a quick fix. On Friday, December 21, 2012, janI wrote: I really like the santa variant, but I totally agree with andrea that the logo as such should be our current logo. You really have a touch for design !! Jan I. On 21 December 2012 23:30, Michael Acevedo vea1...@gmail.com javascript:; javascript:; wrote: Hello Andrea, I uploaded the logos to a Picasa Web album and should be accessible on the link below. I took a conservative approach and only change the coloring of the words Open and Office with the colors of the season. The change is nothing out of this world. You may see the two variants here: AOOHolidayLogos | 102338277738893050711 AOOHolidayLogos | 102338277738893050711 https://picasaweb.google.com/102338277738893050711/AOOHolidayLogos?authuser=0authkey=Gv1sRgCMnEnLzl7sKgOAfeat=directlink Hope you like them. On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 5:20 PM, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org javascript:; javascript:; wrote: Michael Acevedo wrote: I've attached my candidates to this email. Let me know if you can see them. Thanks! Unfortunately, they didn't reach the list so nobody could see them. It's better to upload them to http://imagebin.org/ or somewhere. Logo #1 puts a santa hat on the orb and tweaks the colors of the word OpenOffice to the typical red and green of the season. Logo #2 makes the orb a decorated ball. The coloring of the word OpenOffice remains the same... Reading the descriptions, the solutions seem quite creative! But with the logo we must be careful, meaning: adding themed elements to the logo is OK, while replacing the orb or the colors should probably be avoided, to make sure visitors are not confused (this logo will be seen 800K times a day, and there are enough OpenOffice ripoff sites around for visitors to be quite paranoid). So I'd rather put online a version that adds elements instead of altering the current orb/colors... but out of personal curiosity I'd also be happy to see #1 and #2 above too! Regards, Andrea. -- Best, Michael -- Best, Michael -- Best, Michael -- Alexandro Colorado Apache OpenOffice Contributor http://es.openoffice.org
Re: [WEBSITE] Holiday logo version
On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 2:53 PM, Michael Acevedo vea1...@gmail.com wrote: The Trademark sign is there. I will perform the fix tonight and upload it to the same album. OK -- I LIKE the Santa version also. Let us know and whoever is around can do it. Anyone with committer rights can follow Rob's explanation. On Friday, December 21, 2012, janI wrote: The santa with the original log (I also think you removed the tm) would be just perfect for me...however that is just my opinion and I understood that rob could upload it fast...that would be real nice. Have a nice evening/day jan On 21 December 2012 23:44, Michael Acevedo vea1...@gmail.com javascript:; wrote: Jahl, Would you like me to return the OpenOffice words to their original color then? It's a quick fix. On Friday, December 21, 2012, janI wrote: I really like the santa variant, but I totally agree with andrea that the logo as such should be our current logo. You really have a touch for design !! Jan I. On 21 December 2012 23:30, Michael Acevedo vea1...@gmail.com javascript:; javascript:; wrote: Hello Andrea, I uploaded the logos to a Picasa Web album and should be accessible on the link below. I took a conservative approach and only change the coloring of the words Open and Office with the colors of the season. The change is nothing out of this world. You may see the two variants here: AOOHolidayLogos | 102338277738893050711 AOOHolidayLogos | 102338277738893050711 https://picasaweb.google.com/102338277738893050711/AOOHolidayLogos?authuser=0authkey=Gv1sRgCMnEnLzl7sKgOAfeat=directlink Hope you like them. On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 5:20 PM, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org javascript:; javascript:; wrote: Michael Acevedo wrote: I've attached my candidates to this email. Let me know if you can see them. Thanks! Unfortunately, they didn't reach the list so nobody could see them. It's better to upload them to http://imagebin.org/ or somewhere. Logo #1 puts a santa hat on the orb and tweaks the colors of the word OpenOffice to the typical red and green of the season. Logo #2 makes the orb a decorated ball. The coloring of the word OpenOffice remains the same... Reading the descriptions, the solutions seem quite creative! But with the logo we must be careful, meaning: adding themed elements to the logo is OK, while replacing the orb or the colors should probably be avoided, to make sure visitors are not confused (this logo will be seen 800K times a day, and there are enough OpenOffice ripoff sites around for visitors to be quite paranoid). So I'd rather put online a version that adds elements instead of altering the current orb/colors... but out of personal curiosity I'd also be happy to see #1 and #2 above too! Regards, Andrea. -- Best, Michael -- Best, Michael -- Best, Michael -- MzK No act of kindness, no matter how small, is ever wasted. -- Aesop
Re: [WEBSITE] Holiday logo version
Jahl, I've uploaded secondary versions of the holiday logo with the corrections that you requested on returning the colors of the word OpenOffice to its original one. https://picasaweb.google.com/102338277738893050711/AOOHolidayLogos?authkey=Gv1sRgCMnEnLzl7sKgOA All of them are at the highest resolution available. On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 5:47 PM, janI j...@apache.org wrote: The santa with the original log (I also think you removed the tm) would be just perfect for me...however that is just my opinion and I understood that rob could upload it fast...that would be real nice. Have a nice evening/day jan On 21 December 2012 23:44, Michael Acevedo vea1...@gmail.com wrote: Jahl, Would you like me to return the OpenOffice words to their original color then? It's a quick fix. On Friday, December 21, 2012, janI wrote: I really like the santa variant, but I totally agree with andrea that the logo as such should be our current logo. You really have a touch for design !! Jan I. On 21 December 2012 23:30, Michael Acevedo vea1...@gmail.com javascript:; wrote: Hello Andrea, I uploaded the logos to a Picasa Web album and should be accessible on the link below. I took a conservative approach and only change the coloring of the words Open and Office with the colors of the season. The change is nothing out of this world. You may see the two variants here: AOOHolidayLogos | 102338277738893050711 https://picasaweb.google.com/102338277738893050711/AOOHolidayLogos?authuser=0authkey=Gv1sRgCMnEnLzl7sKgOAfeat=directlink Hope you like them. On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 5:20 PM, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org javascript:; wrote: Michael Acevedo wrote: I've attached my candidates to this email. Let me know if you can see them. Thanks! Unfortunately, they didn't reach the list so nobody could see them. It's better to upload them to http://imagebin.org/ or somewhere. Logo #1 puts a santa hat on the orb and tweaks the colors of the word OpenOffice to the typical red and green of the season. Logo #2 makes the orb a decorated ball. The coloring of the word OpenOffice remains the same... Reading the descriptions, the solutions seem quite creative! But with the logo we must be careful, meaning: adding themed elements to the logo is OK, while replacing the orb or the colors should probably be avoided, to make sure visitors are not confused (this logo will be seen 800K times a day, and there are enough OpenOffice ripoff sites around for visitors to be quite paranoid). So I'd rather put online a version that adds elements instead of altering the current orb/colors... but out of personal curiosity I'd also be happy to see #1 and #2 above too! Regards, Andrea. -- Best, Michael -- Best, Michael -- Best, Michael
Re: [WEBSITE] Holiday logo version
Super...number 3 is choosen, and if nobody disagrees I will try to upload it tomorrow (it is quite late here in southern spain)...or maybe Rob or someone else can do it before that. Thanks for your design. have a nice day/night. Jan I. On 22 December 2012 01:13, Michael Acevedo vea1...@gmail.com wrote: Jahl, I've uploaded secondary versions of the holiday logo with the corrections that you requested on returning the colors of the word OpenOffice to its original one. https://picasaweb.google.com/102338277738893050711/AOOHolidayLogos?authkey=Gv1sRgCMnEnLzl7sKgOA All of them are at the highest resolution available. On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 5:47 PM, janI j...@apache.org wrote: The santa with the original log (I also think you removed the tm) would be just perfect for me...however that is just my opinion and I understood that rob could upload it fast...that would be real nice. Have a nice evening/day jan On 21 December 2012 23:44, Michael Acevedo vea1...@gmail.com wrote: Jahl, Would you like me to return the OpenOffice words to their original color then? It's a quick fix. On Friday, December 21, 2012, janI wrote: I really like the santa variant, but I totally agree with andrea that the logo as such should be our current logo. You really have a touch for design !! Jan I. On 21 December 2012 23:30, Michael Acevedo vea1...@gmail.com javascript:; wrote: Hello Andrea, I uploaded the logos to a Picasa Web album and should be accessible on the link below. I took a conservative approach and only change the coloring of the words Open and Office with the colors of the season. The change is nothing out of this world. You may see the two variants here: AOOHolidayLogos | 102338277738893050711 https://picasaweb.google.com/102338277738893050711/AOOHolidayLogos?authuser=0authkey=Gv1sRgCMnEnLzl7sKgOAfeat=directlink Hope you like them. On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 5:20 PM, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org javascript:; wrote: Michael Acevedo wrote: I've attached my candidates to this email. Let me know if you can see them. Thanks! Unfortunately, they didn't reach the list so nobody could see them. It's better to upload them to http://imagebin.org/ or somewhere. Logo #1 puts a santa hat on the orb and tweaks the colors of the word OpenOffice to the typical red and green of the season. Logo #2 makes the orb a decorated ball. The coloring of the word OpenOffice remains the same... Reading the descriptions, the solutions seem quite creative! But with the logo we must be careful, meaning: adding themed elements to the logo is OK, while replacing the orb or the colors should probably be avoided, to make sure visitors are not confused (this logo will be seen 800K times a day, and there are enough OpenOffice ripoff sites around for visitors to be quite paranoid). So I'd rather put online a version that adds elements instead of altering the current orb/colors... but out of personal curiosity I'd also be happy to see #1 and #2 above too! Regards, Andrea. -- Best, Michael -- Best, Michael -- Best, Michael
Re: [WEBSITE] Holiday logo version
On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 1:30 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 2:14 PM, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org wrote: Forwarding here a discussion from ooo-marketing. Alexandro said it would be nice to have a themed variant of the logo online for the next two weeks, as we have historically done over the years, and he provided a holiday version of the old logo temporarily available at http://imagebin.org/240155 Would it be possible to have a similarly tweaked version of http://www.openoffice.org/images/AOO_logos/OOo_Website_v2_copy.png to temporarily replace the one on the website? Technically this is easy. Check in the new logo, say into ooo-site/images/holidays/christmas-2012.png I couldnt find that folder, I would also suggest to be within the AOO_logos folder to keep it better organized and add the holiday to the name of the file. Then edit this file: https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openoffice/ooo-site/trunk/content/brand.mdtext And change the logo line to point to holidays/christmas-2012.png I can do that website integration task if someone can provide the new artwork. The starting point for the artwork is here: http://www.openoffice.org/images/AOO_logos/OOo_Website_v2_copy.png Regards, -Rob -Rob Regards, Andrea. -- Alexandro Colorado Apache OpenOffice Contributor http://es.openoffice.org
Re: [WEBSITE] Holiday logo version
On 22 December 2012 01:20, Alexandro Colorado j...@oooes.org wrote: On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 1:30 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 2:14 PM, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org wrote: Forwarding here a discussion from ooo-marketing. Alexandro said it would be nice to have a themed variant of the logo online for the next two weeks, as we have historically done over the years, and he provided a holiday version of the old logo temporarily available at http://imagebin.org/240155 Would it be possible to have a similarly tweaked version of http://www.openoffice.org/images/AOO_logos/OOo_Website_v2_copy.png to temporarily replace the one on the website? Technically this is easy. Check in the new logo, say into ooo-site/images/holidays/christmas-2012.png I couldnt find that folder, I would also suggest to be within the AOO_logos folder to keep it better organized and add the holiday to the name of the file. That is a good idea, then we have it in svn. Do we also need some other files to be able to recreate it (svg or so?). jan. Then edit this file: https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openoffice/ooo-site/trunk/content/brand.mdtext And change the logo line to point to holidays/christmas-2012.png I can do that website integration task if someone can provide the new artwork. The starting point for the artwork is here: http://www.openoffice.org/images/AOO_logos/OOo_Website_v2_copy.png Regards, -Rob -Rob Regards, Andrea. -- Alexandro Colorado Apache OpenOffice Contributor http://es.openoffice.org
Re: [WEBSITE] Holiday logo version
On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 6:13 PM, Michael Acevedo vea1...@gmail.com wrote: Jahl, I've uploaded secondary versions of the holiday logo with the corrections that you requested on returning the colors of the word OpenOffice to its original one. https://picasaweb.google.com/102338277738893050711/AOOHolidayLogos?authkey=Gv1sRgCMnEnLzl7sKgOA All of them are at the highest resolution available. It would be helpful if we have a source file. Can you provide the SVG and not a rasterize graphic? On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 5:47 PM, janI j...@apache.org wrote: The santa with the original log (I also think you removed the tm) would be just perfect for me...however that is just my opinion and I understood that rob could upload it fast...that would be real nice. Have a nice evening/day jan On 21 December 2012 23:44, Michael Acevedo vea1...@gmail.com wrote: Jahl, Would you like me to return the OpenOffice words to their original color then? It's a quick fix. On Friday, December 21, 2012, janI wrote: I really like the santa variant, but I totally agree with andrea that the logo as such should be our current logo. You really have a touch for design !! Jan I. On 21 December 2012 23:30, Michael Acevedo vea1...@gmail.com javascript:; wrote: Hello Andrea, I uploaded the logos to a Picasa Web album and should be accessible on the link below. I took a conservative approach and only change the coloring of the words Open and Office with the colors of the season. The change is nothing out of this world. You may see the two variants here: AOOHolidayLogos | 102338277738893050711 https://picasaweb.google.com/102338277738893050711/AOOHolidayLogos?authuser=0authkey=Gv1sRgCMnEnLzl7sKgOAfeat=directlink Hope you like them. On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 5:20 PM, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org javascript:; wrote: Michael Acevedo wrote: I've attached my candidates to this email. Let me know if you can see them. Thanks! Unfortunately, they didn't reach the list so nobody could see them. It's better to upload them to http://imagebin.org/ or somewhere. Logo #1 puts a santa hat on the orb and tweaks the colors of the word OpenOffice to the typical red and green of the season. Logo #2 makes the orb a decorated ball. The coloring of the word OpenOffice remains the same... Reading the descriptions, the solutions seem quite creative! But with the logo we must be careful, meaning: adding themed elements to the logo is OK, while replacing the orb or the colors should probably be avoided, to make sure visitors are not confused (this logo will be seen 800K times a day, and there are enough OpenOffice ripoff sites around for visitors to be quite paranoid). So I'd rather put online a version that adds elements instead of altering the current orb/colors... but out of personal curiosity I'd also be happy to see #1 and #2 above too! Regards, Andrea. -- Best, Michael -- Best, Michael -- Best, Michael -- Alexandro Colorado Apache OpenOffice Contributor http://es.openoffice.org
Re: [WEBSITE] Holiday logo version
On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 7:19 PM, janI j...@apache.org wrote: Super...number 3 is choosen, and if nobody disagrees I will try to upload it tomorrow (it is quite late here in southern spain)...or maybe Rob or someone else can do it before that. Done. It looks nice, I think. Thanks for your design. +1. Thanks, Michael! Regards, -Rob have a nice day/night. Jan I. On 22 December 2012 01:13, Michael Acevedo vea1...@gmail.com wrote: Jahl, I've uploaded secondary versions of the holiday logo with the corrections that you requested on returning the colors of the word OpenOffice to its original one. https://picasaweb.google.com/102338277738893050711/AOOHolidayLogos?authkey=Gv1sRgCMnEnLzl7sKgOA All of them are at the highest resolution available. On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 5:47 PM, janI j...@apache.org wrote: The santa with the original log (I also think you removed the tm) would be just perfect for me...however that is just my opinion and I understood that rob could upload it fast...that would be real nice. Have a nice evening/day jan On 21 December 2012 23:44, Michael Acevedo vea1...@gmail.com wrote: Jahl, Would you like me to return the OpenOffice words to their original color then? It's a quick fix. On Friday, December 21, 2012, janI wrote: I really like the santa variant, but I totally agree with andrea that the logo as such should be our current logo. You really have a touch for design !! Jan I. On 21 December 2012 23:30, Michael Acevedo vea1...@gmail.com javascript:; wrote: Hello Andrea, I uploaded the logos to a Picasa Web album and should be accessible on the link below. I took a conservative approach and only change the coloring of the words Open and Office with the colors of the season. The change is nothing out of this world. You may see the two variants here: AOOHolidayLogos | 102338277738893050711 https://picasaweb.google.com/102338277738893050711/AOOHolidayLogos?authuser=0authkey=Gv1sRgCMnEnLzl7sKgOAfeat=directlink Hope you like them. On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 5:20 PM, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org javascript:; wrote: Michael Acevedo wrote: I've attached my candidates to this email. Let me know if you can see them. Thanks! Unfortunately, they didn't reach the list so nobody could see them. It's better to upload them to http://imagebin.org/ or somewhere. Logo #1 puts a santa hat on the orb and tweaks the colors of the word OpenOffice to the typical red and green of the season. Logo #2 makes the orb a decorated ball. The coloring of the word OpenOffice remains the same... Reading the descriptions, the solutions seem quite creative! But with the logo we must be careful, meaning: adding themed elements to the logo is OK, while replacing the orb or the colors should probably be avoided, to make sure visitors are not confused (this logo will be seen 800K times a day, and there are enough OpenOffice ripoff sites around for visitors to be quite paranoid). So I'd rather put online a version that adds elements instead of altering the current orb/colors... but out of personal curiosity I'd also be happy to see #1 and #2 above too! Regards, Andrea. -- Best, Michael -- Best, Michael -- Best, Michael
Re: [WEBSITE] Holiday logo version
Hi all, http://www.openoffice.org/ The seagull ball wearing a Santa Claus hat looks good. :) It's snowing in Ichinoseki, Iwate, Tohoku region of Japan, now. :) Merry Christmas! Thanks, khirano -- khir...@apache.org Apache OpenOffice http://openoffice.apache.org
