A club membership database - Apache OpenOffice Wiki
Hi Drew Your tutorial at http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/A_club_membership_database is useful but seems incomplete. It only goes so far as 3 of the seven queries you recommend and no forms or reports based on them and there is no link to an actual example. Am I missing something? I figure your tutorial got me far enough to figure out the rest but if there is a complete version somewhere it would help me expedite this project. Please advise. cheers Greg - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: A club membership database - Apache OpenOffice Wiki
Hello Greg, Am 30.05.2013 06:18, schrieb Greg McNamara: Hi Drew Your tutorial at http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/A_club_membership_database is useful but seems incomplete. It only goes so far as 3 of the seven queries you recommend and no forms or reports based on them and there is no link to an actual example. Am I missing something? I figure your tutorial got me far enough to figure out the rest but if there is a complete version somewhere it would help me expedite this project. You can help us to complete the tutorial. Every section is welcome. Kind regard Mechtilde Please advise. cheers Greg - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Update of pages oo.o credits
On 29/05/2013 Kay Schenk wrote: To move this along, I took the liberty of: * copying the old credits.html to credits-ooo33.html * revising credits.html with the same info we have on http://openoffice.apache.org/people.html Thank you, looks good! Regards, Andrea. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Update of pages oo.o credits
2013/5/28 Kay Schenk kay.sch...@gmail.com: * copying the old credits.html to credits-ooo33.html * revising credits.html with the same info we have on http://openoffice.apache.org/people.html Thank you ! :-) Albino - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Please continue executing test cases in TestLink to achieve your assignment
Dear Volunteers, First, thank you all for your effort that we have now completed 713 test executions in TestLink, which cover Windows, Linux and Mac. Our target is to complete *1000 *test executions before *June 6*, please continue working on your assigned test executions and try to complete as much as possible. It is a great community here, if we do a little bit more then we will get an awesome achievement. Thanks!! Regards, Yu Zhen
OpenOffice Mirror in Bulgaria.
Dear all, We create a linux distro mirrors - CentOS , Debian, FreeBSD, Ubuntu and few other open source projects. We want to mirror OpenOffice Project. We use this documentation but we mirror only old version. New release are on sourceforge, not openoffice.org. Can you tell me how can We mirror OpenOffice Project? Thank you! Kinds regards, --- Find out about our new Cloud service - Cloudware.bg http://cloudware.bg/?utm_source=emailutm_medium=signatureutm_content=linkutm_campaign=newwebsite Access anywhere. Manage it yourself. Pay as you go. *Yovcho Yovchev* Senior System Administrator Neterra Ltd. Telephone: +359 2 975 16 16 Fax: +359 2 975 34 36 Mobile: +359 885 143 211 www.neterra.net http://www.neterra.net
Re: OpenOffice Mirror in Bulgaria.
On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 6:59 AM, Yovcho Yovchev yyovc...@neterra.net wrote: Dear all, We create a linux distro mirrors - CentOS , Debian, FreeBSD, Ubuntu and few other open source projects. We want to mirror OpenOffice Project. We use this documentation but we mirror only old version. New release are on sourceforge, not openoffice.org. Can you tell me how can We mirror OpenOffice Project? We also distribute OpenOffice source code and SDK distributions via the Apache mirror network. You can find information on becoming an Apache mirror site here: http://www.apache.org/info/how-to-mirror.html For SourceForge you would need to contact them directly. Regards, -Rob Thank you! Kinds regards, --- Find out about our new Cloud service - Cloudware.bg http://cloudware.bg/?utm_source=emailutm_medium=signatureutm_content=linkutm_campaign=newwebsite Access anywhere. Manage it yourself. Pay as you go. *Yovcho Yovchev* Senior System Administrator Neterra Ltd. Telephone: +359 2 975 16 16 Fax: +359 2 975 34 36 Mobile: +359 885 143 211 www.neterra.net http://www.neterra.net - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: [buildbot] investigate nightly windows build
Hi, On 29.05.2013 10:35, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann wrote: [snip] I have seen that #621 of aoo-win7 also had this error and that you had again cleaned up the hanging processes. In order to get some error output I will switch off the HTML output (no --html option) and the multiprocessor build (no -P2 -- -P2 options) before the weekly clean build of aoo-win7 and for the aoo-w7ia2 build which is always clean. Build #113 of aoo-w7ia2 went well. The failure occured just because I forgot to disable the collection of the HTML build logs. I'm confused - was there something wrong with the w7ia2 build. The previous two builds were clean: http://ci.apache.org/builders/aoo-w7ia2 Other than stumbling over hung processes, I don't think there is an issue with ia2. We had observed the problem of the hanging process. #105 had hanging process #106 went well after your process cleaning #107, #108, #109, #110 had again problems with hanging processes #111 went well after your process cleaning #112 the first successful build without your invention #113 went well with my first temporary investigation stuff - failure just because of error in copying non-existing HTML logs. #114 went well with my second investigation stuff I decided to do some investigation stuff as the problem showed up two times in the last days. Currently, we do not hit the problem. But when it occurs again, we will have some more information due to the different logging. The problem of the current HTML logging is that we do not have it, when the hanging process error occurs. As #114 went well I will now switch on the default multiprocesses builds - 2 modules built in parallel with each using 2 make/dmake processes. #115 build of aoo-w7ia2 having standard multiprocessor builds (options -P2 -- -P2) went well. I will leave the HTML output switched off until Monday. May be the problem with the hanging process occurs. Then we have some output when and where it occurs. #117 build of aoo-w7ia2 showed again the error. Thus, following #118 build fails - it could not remove /ext_libraries/apr/wntmcsi12/misc/apr-1.4.5/Makefile.win Andrew, can you please kill the hanging processes. Cleaned up - fingers crossed that this works. great work. Thanks for the cleaning - #120 build of aoo-w7ia2 went well I will switch on the HTML output for aoo-w7ia2 again. I will mark the log collection task to be always performed - may be this will give us HTML logs even when a failure occurs. The Bad: #121 build of aoo-w7ia2 failed again. The Good: The HTML log collection in case of such a failure works. The HTML logs of #121 (which will be overwritten by the next build) reveals that modules apr and sc were built successfully, but the 'deliver' steps were not performed. I assume this is again caused by one (or more) hanging process(es) @Andrew: When you have time, please have a look at the machine. If possible, please provide information about the hanging processes in case they are existing and causing again the failure. As nobody else showed up I am volunteering to take care for our Windows buildbots. Andrew, can you support me to get the corresponding karma to have direct access to the machine(s) hosting our Windows buildbots? Thanks in advance. Best regards, Oliver. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: MSWord documents
On 05/27/2013 11:13 PM, Bill Irving wrote: If I save the files as the word 97/2000/xp doc format will I lose anything?? The DOC format, although not perfectly supported, is supported pretty well in AOO. When given the choice, I usually choose DOC over DOCX because of this. LibreOffice supports DOCX at this time, but I still choose DOC over DOCX if I have a choice there. And, are there any plans on upgrading the saved file type to an 'X' format (docx xlsx). You should be able to read DOCX files in AOO now, and I do believe that DOCX support for writing is planned. I do not remember the planned release version, however. With my horrid memory, I do not remember if it was 4.0 or 4.1 as an expected release (but my memory may be faulty). -- Andrew Pitonyak My Macro Document: http://www.pitonyak.org/AndrewMacro.odt Info: http://www.pitonyak.org/oo.php - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: [RELEASE]: translation deadline June 18th latest
On 5/28/13 4:51 PM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote: Hi, on the dev list I have proposed our way towards the AOO 4.0 release and one important part is the translation. I proposed a deadline of June 14th but had to correct myself because I am not available form June 14-17 and it seems that I again will be the bottleneck. Anyway I will start to integrate the last translations on June 18th. Ideally the translations will be available as soon as possible that we can integrate them in time and can provide snapshot builds. I plan to integrate the first finished translations next week. Translations that will be finished later will be included in a potential language update release. Important is the finished UI translation. But a complete help translation is appreciated as well ;-) but no release stopper from my point of view because we had released languages where the help is still English only. Further discussion on the translation deadline and further proceeding on the l10n list. To highlight what this means. For AOO 3.4.1 we have released Arabic, Asturian, Czech, Danish, German, English (United Kingdom) (100%), Spanish (100%), Basque, Finnish, French (100%), Scottish Gaelic, Galician, Hungarian (100%), Italian, Japanese, Khmer, Korean, Norwegian Bokmal, Dutch (100%), Polish, Portugese Brazil (UI 100%), Russian (UI 100%), Slovak, Slovenian, Swedish, Chinese (China), Chinese (Taiwan) The percentage in the bracket shows the state for AOO 4.0! Some of them are already finished or have at least a complete UI. I am not 100% sure but I am currently planning to release only the languages where the UI is 100%. Arabic for example is critical because we have not seen an active translation community for 3.4.1 and still don't see anything here. I hope for all the other languages we will see some activities over the next 2 weeks. Otherwise they will be postponed to a potential language update release. I have many other things to do on the way to the release. Please join me by raising awareness for the outstanding translations or help find volunteers. Juergen - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
New contributor
Hello all. I'm interested in contributing in technical writing, editing and documentation. I have a BSCS, CCNA and some comptia certs. Looking forward to working with you all. -Marty
Build problem on epm in the rejuvenate01 branche
Hi at all Mac OS X 10.7 with XCode 4.3 My build stops at the epm modul. I know there is a workflow to find more details about the breaker, but I fergot it :-( Can sameone help me? Thanks and greetings Raphael - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: [OT] New in the developers community
Hi Daniel, Daniel Suarez schrieb: Thank you for the advices. I am searching what to do. I wanna be in the Openoffice Base, but I don't know what choice here. You can use our Bugzilla to get an idea. https://issues.apache.org/ooo/ For example try to fix a bug. There are about 200 unconfirmed and about 120 confirmed bugs since BugID 10. Use the advanced search. Search for product Base and Resolution -- and constrain the search via Custom Search or Change History. Come back here, if you need help using Bugzilla. Or you take one of the feature requests from there. There exist some old but still topical issues, for example https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=42464 [RFE] allow to link tables from dfferent sources into one database file or this one https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=8949 [RFE] query on several tables of a DBase/Calc database The experienced developers are currently very busy with the upcoming AOO4.0 release. Therefore, please be not disappointed if you get not much and not quick response at the moment. Nevertheless don't hesitate to ask, if you need a pointer. Kind regards Regina 2013/5/29 Regina Henschel rb.hensc...@t-online.de Hi Daniel, Daniel Suarez schrieb: Hello, community: My name is Daniel Suarez, with nickname delta0, I want to become an Apache openoffice developer. That's great. You are welcome. I am reading the builder and developer guide. I am compiling the last SVN repo and also I am in the IRC oooes and dev.openoffice.com. That sounds very promising. What do you recommend me? It is such a large code, that nobody can be expert in all areas. So before someone can propose a task, you should tell, if you have any special interests. For example, improving a database connection or implementing a new kind of shape or cleaning up the ToolsOptions are very different. And possible tasks exist a lot, not to count all the needed bug fixes. Kind regards Regina --**--**- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@openoffice.**apache.orgdev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Next steps for AOO 4.0 Logo Selection
Le 28/05/2013 00:55, Dennis E. Hamilton a écrit : PS: Interesting that we've come around to a close variant of the current logo. Well, rather disappointing I would say. So much energy lost for just so few changes... Perhaps it tells that there was no need to change the logo at all. Le 28/05/2013 20:39, Donald Whytock a écrit : So the flat orb is likely to be the new standard? Will the round orb then be deliberately retired? Are we sure about this? If there is a last round, will the round orb be part of the candidates? My feeling is that there are some improvements (dark gray color instead of black). But switching to a flat logo would be quite a step backward. The orb is the only modern aspect in the whole AOO visual identity. Hagar - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Next steps for AOO 4.0 Logo Selection
On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 3:59 PM, Hagar Delest hagar.del...@laposte.net wrote: Le 28/05/2013 00:55, Dennis E. Hamilton a écrit : PS: Interesting that we've come around to a close variant of the current logo. Well, rather disappointing I would say. So much energy lost for just so few changes... I don't think it was wasted effort if we gained knowledge. Perhaps it tells that there was no need to change the logo at all. Le 28/05/2013 20:39, Donald Whytock a écrit : So the flat orb is likely to be the new standard? Will the round orb then be deliberately retired? Are we sure about this? If there is a last round, will the round orb be part of the candidates? My feeling is that there are some improvements (dark gray color instead of black). But switching to a flat logo would be quite a step backward. The orb is the only modern aspect in the whole AOO visual identity. Reading the comments from the survey I get exactly the opposite impression, that the flat logo is seen as more modern, clean and attractive than the 3D ray-traced style. I mean comments like these for logo #34 (Chris's one): Very calm and cool logo, without any overwhelming design. Perfect for the target market. Simple and clean Simple but attractive. Clean and modern. Still fits well, like a leather jacket. Good follow on to the present Nice! simple and printable Excellent !! Simple. Colors are muted. Natural evolution from current 3.0 logo, and improves on 3.0 logo. Simple but strong good combo of previous tries. Typeface is good, birds simple but strong Simple graphic with continuity in design, text attractive and easily readable. Nice, light, open feel. Simplicity is good. Great font and colour scheme, simple but very effective Classic This is a perfect logo; it's clean and modern. It can also be good for a Windows 8 app. simple, feels good, memorable Sometimes, the simplest solution is the best one. Simple, straightforward, all in the continuity (which may refer to the absolute compatibility of OO files overtime). Of course, some thought it was bland and boring. I think the important thing is to realize that long-standing OpenOffice users, like you and me, have strong opinions and perceptions on this that are not necessarily reflective of the views of the broader user base. We're too close and too familiar with the old logo. So I discount your views on this just as I discount my own. I look more toward the survey for an unbiased view. Regards, -Rob Hagar - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Insert new page into the wiki
Hello, Raphael had proposed to coordinate the work on the German website in the wiki, and we've discussed on the users...@openoffice.apache.org list. But where, in the hierarchy of the wiki (see left on the page https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Wiki+Home), I should to insert a page? Possibly: Project Planning-Native Language Projects-Website(de)? or: Project Planning-Site-Dev-Plan-Website(de)? or where else? Greetings, Jörg - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Calzada
Re: Next steps for AOO 4.0 Logo Selection
On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 6:27 PM, Hagar Delest hagar.del...@laposte.netwrote: Le 30/05/2013 22:53, Rob Weir a écrit : I think the important thing is to realize that long-standing OpenOffice users, like you and me, have strong opinions and perceptions on this that are not necessarily reflective of the views of the broader user base. We're too close and too familiar with the old logo. So I discount your views on this just as I discount my own. I look more toward the survey for an unbiased view. OK but we should allow the users to decide if they want to keep the current logo. If it's not among the other candidates, it denies this right to the users. I thought the current logo was among the surveyed logos...? Don
Re: Insert new page into the wiki
Hi Jörg, * Am 30.05.13 22:54, schrieb Jörg Schmidt: Hello, Raphael had proposed to coordinate the work on the German website in the wiki, and we've discussed on the users...@openoffice.apache.org list. But where, in the hierarchy of the wiki (see left on the page https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Wiki+Home), I should to insert a page? Possibly: Project Planning-Native Language Projects-Website(de)? or: Project Planning-Site-Dev-Plan-Website(de)? or where else? I'm not 100% sure here, where we should put the organization stuff for the de community. We have a old orga corner on the Mediawiki. But as I know we decided the following: Media Wiki: User content cwikiUSERS: for community coordination cwikiDEV: not realy used now So from this point of view, the right place would be the cwiki. BUT the cwiki has no language support. I personaly would prefer the cwiki over the MW for orga work. It's easyer to use, and so we stay consistent. Greetings Raphael - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Guillermo
Hi, good afternoon; my name is Guillermo Calzada, im From México, I´m studying Telemathics Engineer. I'm interested in sofware opensource and i want to participate in it. Alexandro is helping me to get started. If there´s anything i can do to help just let me know. Thanks for you time
Re: Next steps for AOO 4.0 Logo Selection
On May 30, 2013, at 6:30 PM, Donald Whytock dwhyt...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 6:27 PM, Hagar Delest hagar.del...@laposte.netwrote: Le 30/05/2013 22:53, Rob Weir a écrit : I think the important thing is to realize that long-standing OpenOffice users, like you and me, have strong opinions and perceptions on this that are not necessarily reflective of the views of the broader user base. We're too close and too familiar with the old logo. So I discount your views on this just as I discount my own. I look more toward the survey for an unbiased view. OK but we should allow the users to decide if they want to keep the current logo. If it's not among the other candidates, it denies this right to the users. I thought the current logo was among the surveyed logos...? The current logo is not really eligible since we have no vector source for it. It was a quick hack for AOO 3.4.0 using a composited bitmap. But it doesn't work with the full range of uses we need the logo for. Of course if anyone wants to make an vector version of the old logo, using a free font, etc., then we can certainly consider it. That was always a possibility, though it didn't seen to interest any designer. -Rob Don - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: [buildbot] investigate nightly windows build
On 5/30/2013 6:04 AM, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann wrote: Hi, On 29.05.2013 10:35, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann wrote: [snip] I have seen that #621 of aoo-win7 also had this error and that you had again cleaned up the hanging processes. In order to get some error output I will switch off the HTML output (no --html option) and the multiprocessor build (no -P2 -- -P2 options) before the weekly clean build of aoo-win7 and for the aoo-w7ia2 build which is always clean. Build #113 of aoo-w7ia2 went well. The failure occured just because I forgot to disable the collection of the HTML build logs. I'm confused - was there something wrong with the w7ia2 build. The previous two builds were clean: http://ci.apache.org/builders/aoo-w7ia2 Other than stumbling over hung processes, I don't think there is an issue with ia2. We had observed the problem of the hanging process. #105 had hanging process #106 went well after your process cleaning #107, #108, #109, #110 had again problems with hanging processes #111 went well after your process cleaning #112 the first successful build without your invention #113 went well with my first temporary investigation stuff - failure just because of error in copying non-existing HTML logs. #114 went well with my second investigation stuff I decided to do some investigation stuff as the problem showed up two times in the last days. Currently, we do not hit the problem. But when it occurs again, we will have some more information due to the different logging. The problem of the current HTML logging is that we do not have it, when the hanging process error occurs. As #114 went well I will now switch on the default multiprocesses builds - 2 modules built in parallel with each using 2 make/dmake processes. #115 build of aoo-w7ia2 having standard multiprocessor builds (options -P2 -- -P2) went well. I will leave the HTML output switched off until Monday. May be the problem with the hanging process occurs. Then we have some output when and where it occurs. #117 build of aoo-w7ia2 showed again the error. Thus, following #118 build fails - it could not remove /ext_libraries/apr/wntmcsi12/misc/apr-1.4.5/Makefile.win Andrew, can you please kill the hanging processes. Cleaned up - fingers crossed that this works. great work. Thanks for the cleaning - #120 build of aoo-w7ia2 went well I will switch on the HTML output for aoo-w7ia2 again. I will mark the log collection task to be always performed - may be this will give us HTML logs even when a failure occurs. The Bad: #121 build of aoo-w7ia2 failed again. The Good: The HTML log collection in case of such a failure works. The HTML logs of #121 (which will be overwritten by the next build) reveals that modules apr and sc were built successfully, but the 'deliver' steps were not performed. I assume this is again caused by one (or more) hanging process(es) @Andrew: When you have time, please have a look at the machine. If possible, please provide information about the hanging processes in case they are existing and causing again the failure. hung process: cl /nologo /? with a parent process of: C:\cygwin\bin\sh.exe -c dmake -P2 verbose=true [long path]/apr.txt 21 with the parent process of: [long path]\build.pl --all --html -P -- -P (all I need to clean up is to kill the cl process, and the others eventually exit) (and it's cleaned up now) A. As nobody else showed up I am volunteering to take care for our Windows buildbots. Andrew, can you support me to get the corresponding karma to have direct access to the machine(s) hosting our Windows buildbots? I'll look for you coming online, and we can do that over IRC Thanks in advance. Best regards, Oliver. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Guillermo
2013/5/30 Guillermo Calzada calzadag...@gmail.com: Hi, good afternoon; my name is Guillermo Calzada, im From México, I´m studying Telemathics Engineer. Welcome ! I'm interested in sofware opensource and i want to participate in it. Alexandro is helping me to get started. I read here: https://openoffice.apache.org/get-involved.html Albino - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Insert new page into the wiki
On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 6:43 PM, Raphael Bircher r.birc...@gmx.ch wrote: Hi Jörg, * Am 30.05.13 22:54, schrieb Jörg Schmidt: Hello, Raphael had proposed to coordinate the work on the German website in the wiki, and we've discussed on the users...@openoffice.apache.org list. But where, in the hierarchy of the wiki (see left on the page https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Wiki+Home), I should to insert a page? Possibly: Project Planning-Native Language Projects-Website(de)? or: Project Planning-Site-Dev-Plan-Website(de)? or where else? I'm not 100% sure here, where we should put the organization stuff for the de community. We have a old orga corner on the Mediawiki. But as I know we decided the following: Media Wiki: User content cwikiUSERS: for community coordination cwikiDEV: not realy used now That is how we did it from the start of the podling, before the Mwiki was migrated. We didn't have a choice, really. But of course, under Sun/Oracle we used only MWiki. And now that Jan has stabilized MWiki we could return to doing everything there if we wanted. One factor might be this: there are probably links from 3rd party German websites and mailing list archives pointing to the Mwiki, so it might be good to start putting updated project content there, so new visitors will see the current activity. So from this point of view, the right place would be the cwiki. BUT the cwiki has no language support. I personaly would prefer the cwiki over the MW for orga work. It's easyer to use, and so we stay consistent. That would work as well, in which case we might want to add a link from the de MWiki page to the CWiki pages. -Rob Greetings Raphael - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org