Re: Introduction

2013-08-09 Thread Alexandro Colorado
Hello Camelia best way to start is to create an account on our bugzilla and
read some bug reports and direct your questions to the QA list at
q...@openoffice.apache.org

Check the wiki for information on the QA project in general here:
http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/QA


On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 11:03 PM, Camelia Brown cambrown0...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hello Everyone,

 My name is Camelia (I usually just go by C.C. for short), and I am a recent
 graduate from California looking for work. Unfortunately, I ended up
 realizing what I wanted to do a little too late in the college game to
 actually have taken any classes involved with my new goals, but I found out
 about OpenOffice and realized that it could be a place where I  hopefully
 learn some of the basic skills of QA specifically as well as general
 knowledge I would need to become a QA Tester for a company. I hope to be of
 help on this project as best as I can.

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Re: Drop support for OSX 10.4 and 10.5 for AOO 4.1

2013-08-09 Thread Herbert Duerr

On 08.08.2013 16:22, O.Felka wrote:

Am 08.08.2013 10:08, schrieb Herbert Duerr:


This is very true also in other areas. I suggest we drop support for OSX
10.4 and 10.5 for Apache OpenOffice 4.1.

There are some good points for the proposal:
- the latest update of OSX 10.4 was in 2007 and Apple dropped support
for it in May 2011
- the latest update of OSX 10.5 was in 2009 and Apple dropped support
for it in July 2012
- Mozilla stopped releasing for them after FireFox 16
- Google stopped releasing for them after Chrome 22
- Microsoft stopped releasing for them after MSO 2011
- Adobe stopped releasing for them in 2012
- Oracle only provides Java for OSX 10.6 and up
- Adium stopped releasing for them after Adium 1.4.5
- etc.


It sounds reasonable to drop these OSXs for AOO 4.1 and I would second
the proposal.
But it's not a good style to drop an OS within a minor update.


- we dropped support for OSX PPC with AOO 3.4
- Apple routinely drops support for older platforms in minor version 
numbers of OSX
- Mozilla eliminated minor version numbers for functionality-changing 
releases

- Google Chrome never released minor versions

Of course we could do the Solaris trick (calling Solaris 2.6 as 
Solaris 6) or Java trick (calling JRE 1.7 as Java 7) and rename our 
AOO 4.1 as AOO 41. FWFIW JRE 1.7 is the first version that doesn't 
support OSX 10.4 or 10.5 either.


Regarding naming I'd prefer a naming scheme of AOO 2013 better anyway. 
This could also avoid version number races where coopetitors feel that 
they are forced to one-up major release numbers even if their 
functionality or UI changes are minor...



What are the big changes in AOO 4.1 compared to 4.0 that we can't
support these OSXs any longer?


Switching to an XCode4 development environment, switching to 64bit only 
builds, supporting JRE 1.7 and replacing plenty of APIs that are long 
deprecated with their modern counterparts makes development easier.



We should have done that for AOO 4.0.


We should have done much more for AOO 4.0: There are many untranslated 
languages, there are many important platforms and there are document 
formats that we don't support yet. There are many open bugs and a lot of 
enhancements and features are not implemented, some are not even ready 
to implement. But if we had waited until every one of these items was 
resolved to perfection we wouldn't have had a release this year (or 
next) though.


But with AOO 4.0 as it is even if we still have users of AOO 4.0 on OSX 
Tiger (OSX 10.4) or Leopard (OSX 10.4) they have now a modern office 
with the wonderful sidebar. They cannot get any Apple updates and they 
cannot get a recent Java, a recenct FireFox, a recent Chrome or a recent 
Opera. But we provided our latest and greatest offering with all its 
wonderful enhancements and fixes. I don't think there is much reason to 
complain.


Herbert

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BasicAddonBuilder - problem (addon.xcu?) in AOO 4.0

2013-08-09 Thread Jörg Schmidt
Hello,

The toolbar does not properly registered when installing the Basic Addon 
Builder (0.5.0)?

That is, it is not possible to display the toolbar of Basic Addon Builder after 
installation.

Is this already known?

My System:
AOO 4.0 and Windows7 (32Bit) 



Note:
Manual start is working on BasicAddonBuilder-Main-RunWizard (in the 
macro-dialog).



Greetings,
Jörg


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Forum vm reconfiguration.

2013-08-09 Thread janI
Hi.

As of the time of this mail, the forum vm has been reconfigured to cope
with a higher load.

This is just a very limited reconfiguration (max_connections=75), and I
will over the next days do the following:
- include all changes in backup (today phpBB changes are not in svn/backup)
- adjust httpd worker threads, and calculate the needed max_connections
- make a test setup of phpBB
- convert myIsam table to innodb
- maybe upgrade to mysql 5.6 (depends on input from arist)
- add office 4.0 signature (depends on input from andrea, or anybody with
phpBB knowledge)
- Run peak perfomance testing.

Please use this thread to report outages, sql errors and if its slower than
a snail (please compare to a danish snail, they are especially slow).

rgds
jan I.


Re: Solaris Build

2013-08-09 Thread Herbert Duerr

On 09.08.2013 01:22, Steele, Raymond wrote:

dmake is failing on the line 43 of startup.mk. Anyone know why dmake would fail 
on the following:


https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=101786 looks related. Does 
applying Kendy's patch to the dmake source help?


Herbert

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Re: Forum vm reconfiguration.

2013-08-09 Thread FR web forum
As of the time of this mail, the forum vm has been reconfigured to cope
with a higher load.
No change for french forum, we still have error 1040.

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Re: Pootle setup for 4.0.1 (Re: Proposal -- AOO 4.0.1 Release)

2013-08-09 Thread janI
On 9 August 2013 09:17, Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 8/8/13 4:33 PM, janI wrote:
  On 8 August 2013 15:28, Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  On 8/8/13 3:06 PM, Andrea Pescetti wrote:
  On 07/08/2013 janI wrote:
  On 7 August 2013 13:07, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
  We have to convert them all in po, merge
  against the latest templates from 4.0 and safe them in a secure
  place/project and use new languages on demand
  No problem, I would have preferred another way, but this is less work
  now.
 
  I'm renaming this subthread, since we all agree on the 4.0.1 proposal
 in
  itself and discussions are only on the Pootle update now.
 
  I see in Pootle that the project names, after the discussion here, now
  follow the same pattern of 4.0.0: aoo401 and aoo401help: perfect.
 
  The point where I and Juergen disagree is how many languages should be
  available in Pootle.
 
  My deepest concern is that we don't waste the translators' time and
 that
  we are prepared to receive help immediately. So, for me, now is the
 time
  for importing everything from SDF to Pootle: we still have at least
  three languages (sr, sh, bg) where volunteers have been waiting for
 more
  than one week for us to put 4.0.0 in Pootle.
 
  Juergen, how can we guarantee that this is not the bottleneck if we
  don't import everything now? As for creating Pootle accounts, I usually
  create them within 24 hours, which is fine. But creating a Pootle
  project (a new language) looks more complex and more critical.
 
  by simply having a few more people having the necessary rights to access
  the machine and doing the work directly.
 
 
  These people would also need to understand the pootle setup, since root
  access is needed. I will not recommend have extra root people on the vm,
  but if really needed we could change ownership of the po files so the
  vm-team can do the po commands.
 
 
  Having all languages there requires even more maintenance work over time
  that I am not willing to spend if there is no active community
 
 
  You see something that I overlook, please enlighten me.
 
  Apart from the initial work (which have to be done at some point
 anyhow), I
  see our running maintenance as:
  - Maintain mysql, httpd and pootle (that is done by me alone today, and I
  dont need extra help)
  - Restart pootle in case of problems (that is done by vm-team, in total 5
  people, that should be enough)
  - Run pootle refresh_stat regulary (done by me, and with my current
  experience I will put it in crontab)
  - Run  pootle sync to update the po files for backup (currently only
 done
  by you, but I will be happy to put that in crontab as well, and btw 1
 cmd,
  not 1 pr language).

 well I run it via script on a set of languages ;-)

 
  When we want to build for a release, there are a couple of extra issues:
  - Convert po files back to sdf (currently done by you, but that would
 only
  affect the languages we actually build, so no difference from today).

 that will go away in the future hopefully

 
  The only real extra work is when there are new strings:
  - Convert sdf files with templates to po files for each language.
 
  This is real extra work, but I have proposed to do it this time, and I
 hope
  to have genLang ready for 4.1, so we can skip the conversion.

 exactly and this is work that I don't want to do at the moment for
 inactive languages.

 But I am fine with adding all languages when the process uses po files
 directly and more things can be automated.


OK juergen I understand you now, and agree with your opion

lets close this thread.

summarize:

Apache 4.x is available (and now even faster) for continued  work by all
translators

If anybody want to work on a language we do not have on pootle but in sdf
it will be added (let try to be as fast as andrea) in 24 hours (send me a
private mail with the exact cmds you use, then we are 2 that can do the
job).

if anybody want to work on a language not available in pootle or sdf, it
must be discussed first on this list, since it involves more work.

Translators should use expand details in main view, and check the alerts
pootle issues, it is quite good at catching translation mistakes.

aooGenLang is a project for test purpose, please do not use it.

I will (after 72 hours) remove the 3.4 projects from pootle (and po
directory).


rgds
jan I


 Juergen

 
  What extra work am I missing ?
 
 
 
 
  I stopped to add languages more or less when we started the 4.0.1
  discussion ...
 
  You will notice that initial 4.x projects use of course 4.x and not 4.0.
  My understanding is that only the sdf files in svn count and Pootle is
  just a tool. And in future the po files in svn counts instead of. I
  don't think they have to be in sync. But anyway if people want to have
  the overhead I am fine as long as I don't have to do the work.
 
  I agree that svn is the source, and pootle is only a tool, but in the
  future the po directory will be 

Re: Forum vm reconfiguration.

2013-08-09 Thread janI
On 9 August 2013 11:05, FR web forum ooofo...@free.fr wrote:

 As of the time of this mail, the forum vm has been reconfigured to cope
 with a higher load.
 No change for french forum, we still have error 1040.


Apologies for my joke about snails, the vm is slower than a sleeping snail.

All forums are handled identically, we dont have a phpBB running pr forum,
so every forum must be experiencing this. It seems at the moment the vm is
swapping itself to a slow death.

I will be on it, in max 30 minutes.

thx for the report.
rgds
jan I.

rgds
jan


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Re: Forum vm reconfiguration.

2013-08-09 Thread janI
On 9 August 2013 11:16, janI j...@apache.org wrote:




 On 9 August 2013 11:05, FR web forum ooofo...@free.fr wrote:

 As of the time of this mail, the forum vm has been reconfigured to cope
 with a higher load.
 No change for french forum, we still have error 1040.


 Apologies for my joke about snails, the vm is slower than a sleeping snail.

 All forums are handled identically, we dont have a phpBB running pr forum,
 so every forum must be experiencing this. It seems at the moment the vm is
 swapping itself to a slow death.

 I will be on it, in max 30 minutes.


This should help a bit more (I hope).

At least I get no errors now.

rgds
jan I.



 thx for the report.
 rgds
 jan I.

 rgds
 jan


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Re: [IDEA] Back to School with AOO blog post

2013-08-09 Thread bugreporter99

On 06.08.2013 at 5:10 PM, sebb seb...@gmail.com wrote:On 6 August 2013 
15:56, Donald Whytock dwhyt...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Tue, Aug 6, 2013 at 10:50 AM, Ian Lynch ianrly...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 6 August 2013 15:40, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote:

  It is that time of year now:  back to school.
 
  I wonder if this could make a good blog post.   Of course, AOO being
  free is core part of the story.  But even better would be if we had a
  top 10 list of ways in which AOO is great for school.
 


 1. Use the same software at home and at school without worrying about
 licensing
 2. Participate in the AOO community and provide useful things for others
 while you learn
 3. Fix broken Word documents
 4. Provide choice and promote transferrable skills by using more than one
 type of tool
 5. Get a qualification referenced to the European Qualifications Framework


 6. Fits nicely in a small/low income community's school budget.

7. Work in multiple languages.

8. use it on your llinux/win/mac machine

9. having all you need for the school in one suit/program (cause other projects 
which has to make money trying to split up the programs like one program for 
writing onother for drawing to make more money)

10. possible to open other formats like .doc (maybe note that it does not work 
perfect because it's a propritary/closed format) but works mostly

maybe also note some features that are new to 4.0, like the optional side bar 
which makes the work easier and faster.

If you also want to mention that there are still some things missing, here are 
my most wanted/missing featured I still remember from shool:
(of course there are more things like  Inserting a bibliographic reference int 
a frame (e.g. image frame) (-will show up allways as [0]))

#create a 3d surface chart (surface plots)
#save the annotations in impress
(don*t know if these  are still missing)


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Re: Forum vm reconfiguration.

2013-08-09 Thread Rory O'Farrell
On Fri, 9 Aug 2013 11:16:15 +0200
janI j...@apache.org wrote:

 On 9 August 2013 11:05, FR web forum ooofo...@free.fr wrote:
 
  As of the time of this mail, the forum vm has been reconfigured to cope
  with a higher load.
  No change for french forum, we still have error 1040.
 
 
 Apologies for my joke about snails, the vm is slower than a sleeping snail.
 
 All forums are handled identically, we dont have a phpBB running pr forum,
 so every forum must be experiencing this. It seems at the moment the vm is
 swapping itself to a slow death.
 
 I will be on it, in max 30 minutes.
 

For information:
en-Forum still out at 12:35 UTC+1. 



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Re: BasicAddonBuilder - problem (addon.xcu?) in AOO 4.0

2013-08-09 Thread Jörg Schmidt
Hello Jürgen, *, 

 From: Jürgen Schmidt [mailto:jogischm...@gmail.com] 

 not known but is the incompatible change and it is up to the extension
 developer to change the addons.xcu (or corresponding config file)

Clear, but BasicAddonBuilder is a well-known extension (see: 
http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Extensions_Packager) and I hoped there would be 
someone here already noticed, because BasicAddonBuilder is indeed more for 
developers than for normal users.

Meanwhile, I have found similar problems with other extensions and would 
therefore like to ask:

What is the problem with the following addon.xcu? This functions in AOO 3.4.1 
(for example) but not in AOO 4.0.


?xml version='1.0' encoding='UTF-8'?
oor:component-data 
 xmlns:oor=http://openoffice.org/2001/registry;
 xmlns:xs=http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema;
 oor:name=Addons
 oor:package=org.openoffice.Office
node oor:name=AddonUI
node oor:name=OfficeToolBar
node oor:name=Color2Rows.OfficeToolBar 
oor:op=replace
node oor:name=m1 oor:op=replace
prop oor:name=Context 
oor:type=xs:string

valuecom.sun.star.sheet.SpreadsheetDocument/value
/prop
prop oor:name=URL 
oor:type=xs:string

valuevnd.sun.star.script:Color2Rows.Mod_C2R.StartUp_C2R?language=Basicamp;location=application/value
/prop
prop oor:name=ImageIdentifier 
oor:type=xs:string

value%origin%/icons/image1/value
/prop
prop oor:name=Title 
oor:type=xs:string
valueColor2Rows/value
/prop
prop oor:name=Target 
oor:type=xs:string
value_self/value
/prop
/node
/node
/node
/node
/oor:component-data



If the addon.xcu at all the cause, which is the toolbar is not visible?

As an example of such a non-visible toolbar (i mean: non-visible only in AOO 
4.0), see Color2Rows:
http://prooo-box.org/live/addons/Color2rows/Color2Rows-2.0.5.oxt



Greetings,
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Re: Forum vm reconfiguration.

2013-08-09 Thread Rory O'Farrell
On Fri, 9 Aug 2013 12:40:25 +0100
Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie wrote:

 On Fri, 9 Aug 2013 11:16:15 +0200
 janI j...@apache.org wrote:
 
  On 9 August 2013 11:05, FR web forum ooofo...@free.fr wrote:
  
   As of the time of this mail, the forum vm has been reconfigured to cope
   with a higher load.
   No change for french forum, we still have error 1040.
  
  
  Apologies for my joke about snails, the vm is slower than a sleeping snail.
  
  All forums are handled identically, we dont have a phpBB running pr forum,
  so every forum must be experiencing this. It seems at the moment the vm is
  swapping itself to a slow death.
  
  I will be on it, in max 30 minutes.
  
 
 For information:
 en-Forum still out at 12:35 UTC+1. 
 
 
 
 -- 
 Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie
 
 
It's back, but slooow! 

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Re: BasicAddonBuilder - problem (addon.xcu?) in AOO 4.0

2013-08-09 Thread Oliver Brinzing
Hi Jörg,
 What is the problem with the following addon.xcu? This functions in AOO 3.4.1 
 (for example) but
not in AOO 4.0.

aoo 4 requires a new element ToolBarItems, see below.

Regards
Oliver

 ?xml version='1.0' encoding='UTF-8'?
 oor:component-data 
  xmlns:oor=http://openoffice.org/2001/registry;
  xmlns:xs=http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema;
  oor:name=Addons
  oor:package=org.openoffice.Office
   node oor:name=AddonUI
   node oor:name=OfficeToolBar
   node oor:name=Color2Rows.OfficeToolBar 
 oor:op=replace
prop oor:name=Title
valueToolbar-Title/value
/prop
node oor:name=ToolBarItems
   node oor:name=m1 oor:op=replace
   prop oor:name=Context 
 oor:type=xs:string
   
 valuecom.sun.star.sheet.SpreadsheetDocument/value
   /prop
   prop oor:name=URL 
 oor:type=xs:string
   
 valuevnd.sun.star.script:Color2Rows.Mod_C2R.StartUp_C2R?language=Basicamp;location=application/value
   /prop
   prop oor:name=ImageIdentifier 
 oor:type=xs:string
   
 value%origin%/icons/image1/value
   /prop
   prop oor:name=Title 
 oor:type=xs:string
   valueColor2Rows/value
   /prop
   prop oor:name=Target 
 oor:type=xs:string
   value_self/value
   /prop
/node
   /node
   /node
   /node
   /node
 /oor:component-data

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Re: BasicAddonBuilder - problem (addon.xcu?) in AOO 4.0

2013-08-09 Thread Jörg Schmidt
Hello Oliver, *, 

 From: Oliver Brinzing [mailto:oliver.brinz...@gmx.de] 

 Hi Jörg,
  What is the problem with the following addon.xcu? This 
 functions in AOO 3.4.1 (for example) but
 not in AOO 4.0.
 
 aoo 4 requires a new element ToolBarItems, see below.

Thank you. Works.

But only works in AOO 4.0, so a question:

it is possible to use a 'double' addon.xcu? The following works for me, *but is 
it allowed*?



?xml version='1.0' encoding='UTF-8'?
oor:component-data 
 xmlns:oor=http://openoffice.org/2001/registry;
 xmlns:xs=http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema;
 oor:name=Addons
 oor:package=org.openoffice.Office
node oor:name=AddonUI
node oor:name=OfficeToolBar
node oor:name=Color2Rows.OfficeToolBar 
oor:op=replace
prop oor:name=Title
valueToolbar-Title/value
/prop
node oor:name=ToolBarItems
node oor:name=m1 oor:op=replace
prop oor:name=Context 
oor:type=xs:string

valuecom.sun.star.sheet.SpreadsheetDocument/value
/prop
prop oor:name=URL 
oor:type=xs:string

valuevnd.sun.star.script:Color2Rows.Mod_C2R.StartUp_C2R?language=Basicamp;location=application/value
/prop
prop 
oor:name=ImageIdentifier oor:type=xs:string

value%origin%/icons/image1/value
/prop
prop oor:name=Title 
oor:type=xs:string

valueColor2Rows/value
/prop
prop oor:name=Target 
oor:type=xs:string
value_self/value
/prop
/node
/node
/node
/node
node oor:name=OfficeToolBar
node oor:name=Color2Rows.OfficeToolBar 
oor:op=replace
node oor:name=m1 oor:op=replace
prop oor:name=Context 
oor:type=xs:string

valuecom.sun.star.sheet.SpreadsheetDocument/value
/prop
prop oor:name=URL 
oor:type=xs:string

valuevnd.sun.star.script:Color2Rows.Mod_C2R.StartUp_C2R?language=Basicamp;location=application/value
/prop
prop oor:name=ImageIdentifier 
oor:type=xs:string

value%origin%/icons/image1/value
/prop
prop oor:name=Title 
oor:type=xs:string
valueColor2Rows/value
/prop
prop oor:name=Target 
oor:type=xs:string
value_self/value
/prop
/node
/node
/node
/node
/oor:component-data



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Re: Forum vm reconfiguration.

2013-08-09 Thread janI
On 9 August 2013 13:43, Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie wrote:

 On Fri, 9 Aug 2013 12:40:25 +0100
 Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie wrote:

  On Fri, 9 Aug 2013 11:16:15 +0200
  janI j...@apache.org wrote:
 
   On 9 August 2013 11:05, FR web forum ooofo...@free.fr wrote:
  
As of the time of this mail, the forum vm has been reconfigured to
 cope
with a higher load.
No change for french forum, we still have error 1040.
   
  
   Apologies for my joke about snails, the vm is slower than a sleeping
 snail.
  
   All forums are handled identically, we dont have a phpBB running pr
 forum,
   so every forum must be experiencing this. It seems at the moment the
 vm is
   swapping itself to a slow death.
  
   I will be on it, in max 30 minutes.
  
 
  For information:
  en-Forum still out at 12:35 UTC+1.
 
 
 
  --
  Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie
 
 
 It's back, but slooow!


yes very very slow.

thx to cyrel I have been able to trace mysql while we had the situation, a
reconfiguration is highly needed:

--- cut of the analysis result ---
MySQL Version 5.1.70-0ubuntu0.10.04.1 x86_64
   -- Should be at least 5.5 preferable 5.6

SLOW QUERIES
   The slow query log is NOT enabled.
   Current long_query_time = 10.00 sec.
   You have 9115 out of 103343 that take longer than 10.00 sec. to
complete
   -- not real bad, but also not super

WORKER THREADS
   Current thread_cache_size = 8
   Current threads_cached = 0
   Current threads_per_sec = 3
   Historic threads_per_sec = 0
   -- Threads created per/sec are overrunning threads cached, raise
thread_cache_size

MAX CONNECTIONS
   Current max_connections = 400
   Current threads_connected = 254
   Historic max_used_connections = 268
  -- can be lowered to 300

INNODB STATUS
   Current InnoDB index space = 0 bytes
   Current InnoDB data space = 0 bytes
   Current InnoDB buffer pool free = 96 %
   Current innodb_buffer_pool_size = 8 M

  -- this shows how little the better performing innodb is used

MEMORY USAGE
   Max Memory Ever Allocated : 19.02 G
   Configured Max Per-thread Buffers : 27.46 G
   Configured Max Global Buffers : 640 M
   Configured Max Memory Limit : 28.09 G
   Physical Memory : 1.96 G

  -- Max memory limit exceeds 90% of physical memory, increase phys mem.

QUERY CACHE
   Query cache is enabled
   Current query_cache_size = 256 M
   Current query_cache_used = 11 M
   Current query_cache_limit = 4 M
Current Query cache Memory fill ratio = 4.53 %
Current query_cache_min_res_unit = 4 K
  -- query_cache_size seems to be too high. MySQL won't cache query
results that are larger than query_cache_limit in size

TABLE CACHE
Current table_open_cache = 64 tables
Current table_definition_cache = 256 tables
   -- there are 676 tables (384 open tables)
   Current table_cache hit rate is 0%
  -- while 600% of table cache is in use, increase table_cache and
table_definition_cache value.

TABLE LOCKING
   Current Lock Wait ratio = 1 : 4
   -- selective use of InnoDB will be an advantage or at least setting
low_priority_updates=1 and concurrent_insert=2.

I will make the config changes later today, but not doubt about that we
need a mysql upgrade, and while doing that also a httpd upgrade. I also
noticed that ubuntu is not at 12.04, this is not a performance problem but
only a maintenance problem.

I hope we will slowly see a faster forum, but give me a bit of time to get
it done, and please keep reporting errors !

rgds
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Re: BasicAddonBuilder - problem (addon.xcu?) in AOO 4.0

2013-08-09 Thread Oliver Brinzing
Hi Jörg,

 it is possible to use a 'double' addon.xcu? The following works for me, *but 
 is it allowed*?

this change was intended, see

Allow setting toolbar name in Addons.xcu
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=121577

i don't think a double addon.xcu will work

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Re: Forum vm reconfiguration.

2013-08-09 Thread FR web forum
SLOW QUERIES
   The slow query log is NOT enabled.
   Current long_query_time = 10.00 sec.
   You have 9115 out of 103343 that take longer than 10.00 sec. to 
complete
   -- not real bad, but also not super
Did you see if tables are overhead
Maybe you must optimize with a defragmenting process

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Re: BasicAddonBuilder - problem (addon.xcu?) in AOO 4.0

2013-08-09 Thread Jörg Schmidt
Hello Oliver, *, 

 From: Oliver Brinzing [mailto:oliver.brinz...@gmx.de] 

  it is possible to use a 'double' addon.xcu? The following 
 works for me, *but is it allowed*?
 
 this change was intended, see

Ok, no problem.

 i don't think a double addon.xcu will work

I tested it before I wrote, and it works fine. (in OOo 3.3.0 and AOO 4.0) 

My question is rather whether it is permissible? Or is it a dirty workaround?



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FYI: Forum vm reconfiguration.

2013-08-09 Thread Rory O'Farrell
On Fri, 9 Aug 2013 14:53:00 +0200
janI j...@apache.org wrote:

 On 9 August 2013 13:43, Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie wrote:
 
  On Fri, 9 Aug 2013 12:40:25 +0100
  Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie wrote:
 
   On Fri, 9 Aug 2013 11:16:15 +0200
   janI j...@apache.org wrote:
  
On 9 August 2013 11:05, FR web forum ooofo...@free.fr wrote:
   
 As of the time of this mail, the forum vm has been reconfigured to
  cope
 with a higher load.
 No change for french forum, we still have error 1040.

   
Apologies for my joke about snails, the vm is slower than a sleeping
  snail.
   
All forums are handled identically, we dont have a phpBB running pr
  forum,
so every forum must be experiencing this. It seems at the moment the
  vm is
swapping itself to a slow death.
   
I will be on it, in max 30 minutes.
   
  
   For information:
   en-Forum still out at 12:35 UTC+1.
  
  
  
   --
   Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie
  
  
  It's back, but slooow!
 
 
 yes very very slow.
 
 thx to cyrel I have been able to trace mysql while we had the situation, a
 reconfiguration is highly needed:
 
 --- cut of the analysis result ---
 MySQL Version 5.1.70-0ubuntu0.10.04.1 x86_64
-- Should be at least 5.5 preferable 5.6
 
 SLOW QUERIES
    The slow query log is NOT enabled.
    Current long_query_time = 10.00 sec.
    You have 9115 out of 103343 that take longer than 10.00 sec. to
 complete
    -- not real bad, but also not super
 
 WORKER THREADS
    Current thread_cache_size = 8
    Current threads_cached = 0
    Current threads_per_sec = 3
    Historic threads_per_sec = 0
    -- Threads created per/sec are overrunning threads cached, raise
 thread_cache_size
 
 MAX CONNECTIONS
    Current max_connections = 400
    Current threads_connected = 254
    Historic max_used_connections = 268
   -- can be lowered to 300
 
 INNODB STATUS
    Current InnoDB index space = 0 bytes
Current InnoDB data space = 0 bytes
    Current InnoDB buffer pool free = 96 %
    Current innodb_buffer_pool_size = 8 M
 
   -- this shows how little the better performing innodb is used
 
 MEMORY USAGE
    Max Memory Ever Allocated : 19.02 G
    Configured Max Per-thread Buffers : 27.46 G
    Configured Max Global Buffers : 640 M
    Configured Max Memory Limit : 28.09 G
    Physical Memory : 1.96 G
 
   -- Max memory limit exceeds 90% of physical memory, increase phys mem.
 
 QUERY CACHE
    Query cache is enabled
    Current query_cache_size = 256 M
    Current query_cache_used = 11 M
    Current query_cache_limit = 4 M
 Current Query cache Memory fill ratio = 4.53 %
 Current query_cache_min_res_unit = 4 K
   -- query_cache_size seems to be too high. MySQL won't cache query
 results that are larger than query_cache_limit in size
 
 TABLE CACHE
 Current table_open_cache = 64 tables
 Current table_definition_cache = 256 tables
    -- there are 676 tables (384 open tables)
    Current table_cache hit rate is 0%
   -- while 600% of table cache is in use, increase table_cache and
 table_definition_cache value.
 
 TABLE LOCKING
    Current Lock Wait ratio = 1 : 4
    -- selective use of InnoDB will be an advantage or at least setting
 low_priority_updates=1 and concurrent_insert=2.
 
 I will make the config changes later today, but not doubt about that we
 need a mysql upgrade, and while doing that also a httpd upgrade. I also
 noticed that ubuntu is not at 12.04, this is not a performance problem but
 only a maintenance problem.
 
 I hope we will slowly see a faster forum, but give me a bit of time to get
 it done, and please keep reporting errors !
 
 rgds
 jan I
 
 
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  -

I wasn't complaining, just reporting the situation.

A new error! Makes a change from error 1040
 New error is:
SQL ERROR [ mysqli ]

Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket 
'/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2) [2002]


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Re: FYI: Forum vm reconfiguration.

2013-08-09 Thread janI
On 9 August 2013 15:26, Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie wrote:

 On Fri, 9 Aug 2013 14:53:00 +0200
 janI j...@apache.org wrote:

  On 9 August 2013 13:43, Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie wrote:
 
   On Fri, 9 Aug 2013 12:40:25 +0100
   Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie wrote:
  
On Fri, 9 Aug 2013 11:16:15 +0200
janI j...@apache.org wrote:
   
 On 9 August 2013 11:05, FR web forum ooofo...@free.fr wrote:

  As of the time of this mail, the forum vm has been reconfigured
 to
   cope
  with a higher load.
  No change for french forum, we still have error 1040.
 

 Apologies for my joke about snails, the vm is slower than a
 sleeping
   snail.

 All forums are handled identically, we dont have a phpBB running pr
   forum,
 so every forum must be experiencing this. It seems at the moment
 the
   vm is
 swapping itself to a slow death.

 I will be on it, in max 30 minutes.

   
For information:
en-Forum still out at 12:35 UTC+1.
   
   
   
--
Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie
   
   
   It's back, but slooow!
  
 
  yes very very slow.
 
  thx to cyrel I have been able to trace mysql while we had the situation,
 a
  reconfiguration is highly needed:
 
  --- cut of the analysis result ---
  MySQL Version 5.1.70-0ubuntu0.10.04.1 x86_64
 -- Should be at least 5.5 preferable 5.6
 
  SLOW QUERIES
  The slow query log is NOT enabled.
  Current long_query_time = 10.00 sec.
  You have 9115 out of 103343 that take longer than 10.00 sec. to
  complete
  -- not real bad, but also not super
 
  WORKER THREADS
  Current thread_cache_size = 8
  Current threads_cached = 0
  Current threads_per_sec = 3
  Historic threads_per_sec = 0
  -- Threads created per/sec are overrunning threads cached, raise
  thread_cache_size
 
  MAX CONNECTIONS
  Current max_connections = 400
  Current threads_connected = 254
  Historic max_used_connections = 268
 -- can be lowered to 300
 
  INNODB STATUS
  Current InnoDB index space = 0 bytes
 Current InnoDB data space = 0 bytes
  Current InnoDB buffer pool free = 96 %
  Current innodb_buffer_pool_size = 8 M
 
-- this shows how little the better performing innodb is used
 
  MEMORY USAGE
  Max Memory Ever Allocated : 19.02 G
  Configured Max Per-thread Buffers : 27.46 G
  Configured Max Global Buffers : 640 M
  Configured Max Memory Limit : 28.09 G
  Physical Memory : 1.96 G
 
-- Max memory limit exceeds 90% of physical memory, increase phys mem.
 
  QUERY CACHE
  Query cache is enabled
  Current query_cache_size = 256 M
  Current query_cache_used = 11 M
  Current query_cache_limit = 4 M
   Current Query cache Memory fill ratio = 4.53 %
   Current query_cache_min_res_unit = 4 K
 -- query_cache_size seems to be too high. MySQL won't cache query
  results that are larger than query_cache_limit in size
 
  TABLE CACHE
   Current table_open_cache = 64 tables
   Current table_definition_cache = 256 tables
  -- there are 676 tables (384  open tables)
  Current table_cache hit rate is  0%
 -- while  600%  of table cache is in use, increase table_cache and
  table_definition_cache value.
 
  TABLE LOCKING
  Current Lock Wait ratio = 1 : 4
  -- selective use of InnoDB will be an advantage or at least setting
  low_priority_updates=1 and concurrent_insert=2.
 
  I will make the config changes later today, but not doubt about that we
  need a mysql upgrade, and while doing that also a httpd upgrade. I also
  noticed that ubuntu is not at 12.04, this is not a performance problem
 but
  only a maintenance problem.
 
  I hope we will slowly see a faster forum, but give me a bit of time to
 get
  it done, and please keep reporting errors !
 
  rgds
  jan I
 
  
   --
   Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie
  
   -

 I wasn't complaining, just reporting the situation.


I took it as reporting, and please continue.



 A new error! Makes a change from error 1040
  New error is:
 SQL ERROR [ mysqli ]

 Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket
 '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2) [2002]


you caught me redhanded restarting mysql, try again, now it runs with a
bigger configuration, but we need more phys mem.

rgds
jan I.




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Re: Forum vm reconfiguration.

2013-08-09 Thread janI
On 9 August 2013 15:06, FR web forum ooofo...@free.fr wrote:

 SLOW QUERIES
The slow query log is NOT enabled.
Current long_query_time = 10.00 sec.
You have 9115 out of 103343 that take longer than 10.00 sec. to
 complete
-- not real bad, but also not super
 Did you see if tables are overhead


see my new thread, table_cache was a big problem.


 Maybe you must optimize with a defragmenting process


in mysql or file system ?

file system is on a raid, so not much to do there.

mysql, myisam I have to check that, I have never done regular dump/load
operations on tables.

rgds
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Re: BasicAddonBuilder - problem (addon.xcu?) in AOO 4.0

2013-08-09 Thread Jürgen Schmidt
On 8/9/13 3:22 PM, Jörg Schmidt wrote:
 Hello Oliver, *, 
 
 From: Oliver Brinzing [mailto:oliver.brinz...@gmx.de] 
 
 it is possible to use a 'double' addon.xcu? The following 
 works for me, *but is it allowed*?

 this change was intended, see
 
 Ok, no problem.
 
 i don't think a double addon.xcu will work
 
 I tested it before I wrote, and it works fine. (in OOo 3.3.0 and AOO 4.0) 
 
 My question is rather whether it is permissible? Or is it a dirty workaround?

it seems the code is tolerant to accept the invalid syntax. Did you try
it in an older version, 3.4.1?

It's probably not intended but if it works and don't crash. I haven
t checked the code. Ariel can tell us more

Juergen

 
 
 
 Greetings,
 Jörg
 
 
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Re: BasicAddonBuilder - problem (addon.xcu?) in AOO 4.0

2013-08-09 Thread Jörg Schmidt
 From: Jörg Schmidt [mailto:joe...@j-m-schmidt.de] 

  From: Oliver Brinzing [mailto:oliver.brinz...@gmx.de] 

  i don't think a double addon.xcu will work
 
 I tested it before I wrote, and it works fine. (in OOo 3.3.0 
 and AOO 4.0) 

Sorry, but my statement is not true. I have to correct myself and say: a double 
addon.xcu is _not_ working.

(My mistake was to install two *.xcu files simultaneously and it looked like 
this as if it would work.)


Greetings,
Jörg



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Re: BasicAddonBuilder - problem (addon.xcu?) in AOO 4.0

2013-08-09 Thread Tsutomu Uchino
Hi,
2013/8/9, Oliver Brinzing oliver.brinz...@gmx.de:
 Hi Jörg,

 it is possible to use a 'double' addon.xcu? The following works for me,
 *but is it allowed*?

 this change was intended, see

 Allow setting toolbar name in Addons.xcu
 https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=121577

 i don't think a double addon.xcu will work
I wrote a bit about that here[1]
[1] 
http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Talk:Extensions/Extensions_and_Apache_OpenOffice_4.0

Regards

 Regards

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Re: Forum vm reconfiguration.

2013-08-09 Thread Alexandro Colorado
On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 3:47 AM, janI j...@apache.org wrote:

 Hi.

 As of the time of this mail, the forum vm has been reconfigured to cope
 with a higher load.

 This is just a very limited reconfiguration (max_connections=75), and I
 will over the next days do the following:
 - include all changes in backup (today phpBB changes are not in svn/backup)
 - adjust httpd worker threads, and calculate the needed max_connections
 - make a test setup of phpBB
 - convert myIsam table to innodb
 - maybe upgrade to mysql 5.6 (depends on input from arist)
 - add office 4.0 signature (depends on input from andrea, or anybody with
 phpBB knowledge)


​I wonder why the header is not the 'official' logo of AOO. I generated a
couple of headers using the SVG logo typeset and colors, choose which one
to use.
http://imagebin.org/267011
http://imagebin.org/267012​

SVG source is here: http://imagebin.org/267014



 - Run peak perfomance testing.

 Please use this thread to report outages, sql errors and if its slower than
 a snail (please compare to a danish snail, they are especially slow).

 rgds
 jan I.




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OS/2: landscape printing broken

2013-08-09 Thread Yuri Dario
Hi,

Printing of documents in landscape mode worked correctly until version
3.2

Now something changed and AOO defaults to print in portrait mode 
unless I manually change printer properties to landscape. This problem
was already present in my 3.4 dev builds.

I see that when OS2SalInfoPrinter::SetData() is called, the 
orientation is always portrait (0). Even the print preview is always 
portrait (until printer properties are changed).

I think I miss some code added to change printer properties on the fly
using document settings.

Ideas?

thanks for help,

-- 
Bye,

Yuri Dario

/*
 * OS/2 open source software
 * http://web.os2power.com/yuri
 * http://www.netlabs.org
*/



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call for forum admins.

2013-08-09 Thread janI
Hi.

Since I am now helping out with mysql and a few other things, could it be
considered that I get admin status (or whatever it is called).

I dont want to moderate entries, but e.g. help with the signature.

my userID in forum/en is jani.

thanks in advance
rgds
jan I.


Re: call for forum admins.

2013-08-09 Thread Rory O'Farrell
On Fri, 9 Aug 2013 19:35:47 +0200
janI j...@apache.org wrote:

 Hi.
 
 Since I am now helping out with mysql and a few other things, could it be
 considered that I get admin status (or whatever it is called).
 
 I dont want to moderate entries, but e.g. help with the signature.
 
 my userID in forum/en is jani.
 
 thanks in advance
 rgds
 jan I.

+1

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Re: call for forum admins.

2013-08-09 Thread Rob Weir
On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 1:35 PM, janI j...@apache.org wrote:
 Hi.

 Since I am now helping out with mysql and a few other things, could it be
 considered that I get admin status (or whatever it is called).


+1


 I dont want to moderate entries, but e.g. help with the signature.

 my userID in forum/en is jani.

 thanks in advance
 rgds
 jan I.

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RE: Solaris Build

2013-08-09 Thread Steele, Raymond
Anyone?

From: Steele, Raymond
Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2013 4:20 PM
To: dev@openoffice.apache.org; a...@openoffice.apache.org
Subject: RE: Solaris Build

dmake is failing on the line 43 of startup.mk. Anyone know why dmake would fail 
on the following:

.IMPORT .IGNORE : .EVERYTHING

From: Steele, Raymond
Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2013 9:42 AM
To: dev@openoffice.apache.orgmailto:dev@openoffice.apache.org; 
a...@openoffice.apache.orgmailto:a...@openoffice.apache.org
Subject: Solaris Build

I am trying to build  OpenOffice 4.0 for Solaris x86. I finally go through 
installing all the pre-requisites, configure and bootstrap, but now I am having 
trouble with the build --all.  I am receiving the following error on execution:

Entering ../main/solenv
dmake: ../solenv/inc/startup.mk: line 43: Error: -- Expecting macro or rule 
defn, found neither

1 module(s):
solenv
need(s) to be rebuilt

Reason(s):

Error: error 65280 occurred while making ../main/solenv


I have seen that people recommended changing make='make' in the Config.pm file 
for perl to make='dmake'. I've tried, but that does not make a difference. Any 
help would be appreciated.


Raymond



Re: Drop support for OSX 10.4 and 10.5 for AOO 4.1

2013-08-09 Thread Marcus (OOo)

Am 08/09/2013 10:18 AM, schrieb Herbert Duerr:

On 08.08.2013 16:22, O.Felka wrote:

Am 08.08.2013 10:08, schrieb Herbert Duerr:


This is very true also in other areas. I suggest we drop support for OSX
10.4 and 10.5 for Apache OpenOffice 4.1.

There are some good points for the proposal:
- the latest update of OSX 10.4 was in 2007 and Apple dropped support
for it in May 2011
- the latest update of OSX 10.5 was in 2009 and Apple dropped support
for it in July 2012
- Mozilla stopped releasing for them after FireFox 16
- Google stopped releasing for them after Chrome 22
- Microsoft stopped releasing for them after MSO 2011
- Adobe stopped releasing for them in 2012
- Oracle only provides Java for OSX 10.6 and up
- Adium stopped releasing for them after Adium 1.4.5
- etc.


It sounds reasonable to drop these OSXs for AOO 4.1 and I would second
the proposal.
But it's not a good style to drop an OS within a minor update.


- we dropped support for OSX PPC with AOO 3.4
- Apple routinely drops support for older platforms in minor version
numbers of OSX
- Mozilla eliminated minor version numbers for functionality-changing
releases
- Google Chrome never released minor versions

Of course we could do the Solaris trick (calling Solaris 2.6 as
Solaris 6) or Java trick (calling JRE 1.7 as Java 7) and rename our
AOO 4.1 as AOO 41. FWFIW JRE 1.7 is the first version that doesn't
support OSX 10.4 or 10.5 either.

Regarding naming I'd prefer a naming scheme of AOO 2013 better anyway.
This could also avoid version number races where coopetitors feel that
they are forced to one-up major release numbers even if their
functionality or UI changes are minor...


What are the big changes in AOO 4.1 compared to 4.0 that we can't
support these OSXs any longer?


Switching to an XCode4 development environment, switching to 64bit only
builds, supporting JRE 1.7 and replacing plenty of APIs that are long
deprecated with their modern counterparts makes development easier.


We should have done that for AOO 4.0.


We should have done much more for AOO 4.0: There are many untranslated
languages, there are many important platforms and there are document
formats that we don't support yet. There are many open bugs and a lot of
enhancements and features are not implemented, some are not even ready
to implement. But if we had waited until every one of these items was
resolved to perfection we wouldn't have had a release this year (or
next) though.

But with AOO 4.0 as it is even if we still have users of AOO 4.0 on OSX
Tiger (OSX 10.4) or Leopard (OSX 10.4) they have now a modern office
with the wonderful sidebar. They cannot get any Apple updates and they
cannot get a recent Java, a recenct FireFox, a recent Chrome or a recent
Opera. But we provided our latest and greatest offering with all its
wonderful enhancements and fixes. I don't think there is much reason to
complain.

Herbert


Thanks Herbert for your explainations, I think it's reasonable to drop 
it with OO 4.1.


Marcus

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Re: Pootle setup for 4.0.1 (Re: Proposal -- AOO 4.0.1 Release)

2013-08-09 Thread Andrea Pescetti

janI wrote:

Apache 4.x is available (and now even faster) for continued  work by all
translators


Perfect. So we settled on Apache OpenOffice 4.x as descriptive name, 
with aoo40 as machine name. This is actually very good, so links will 
be preserved.



If anybody want to work on a language we do not have on pootle but in sdf
it will be added (let try to be as fast as andrea) in 24 hours


Great, of course this is not a hard requirement but let's do our best to 
be responsive when new volunteers show up.



if anybody want to work on a language not available in pootle or sdf, it
must be discussed first on this list, since it involves more work.


Understandable, no problems with additional delays in this case (and 
note that it involves also a lot of work outside Pootle in the worst 
case, i.e., when the language is not one of those listed for example in 
Format - Character).



I will (after 72 hours) remove the 3.4 projects from pootle (and po
directory).


+1 from me, with the provision that the work being done, for example, in 
https://translate.apache.org/th/OOo_34/ is kept in 
https://translate.apache.org/th/aoo40/ (but it seems this has already 
been done, and I don't see any 3.4 projects with a lot of recent work).


Regards,
  Andrea.

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Re: Introduction Query on getting started with accessibility coding work in Open Office

2013-08-09 Thread Glen Nicci Johnson
Thanks so much for the pointers Rob. I'll get in touch with Steve Yin about
the accessibility stuff.

Yes, I have indeed contributed to Open Source projects before - one of them
being Alfresco, ... I used to work for them a while back.

I look forwarding to getting to know some other folk on the OO dev list
soon.

All the best

Glen

Glen Johnson
Java Software Engineer
LinkedIn: http://uk.linkedin.com/in/glenjohnsonsofteng


On Wednesday, 7 August 2013, Rob Weir wrote:

 On Tue, Aug 6, 2013 at 3:47 PM, Glen  Nicci Johnson
 niccig...@gmail.com javascript:; wrote:
  Hi all,
 
  I had a discussion recently with Steve Lee (of Open Directive), about
  my desire to get involved in software development on the accessibility
  side of notable open source projects. He suggested I maybe have a look
  at the work that's going on in Apache Open Office regarding the
  merging in of the IAccessible2 code from IBM's Lotus Symphony. I've
  been using Open Office very happily for many years, so I thought it
  sounded like a great idea.
 

 Hi Glen,

 I'm not directly involved in this area but I can give you some
 pointers.  Steve Yin, in Beijing, is the programmer working on this.

  - Is there any Java coding involved in this? I'm asking this as Java
  is one of my main coding skills
  - Would any of you perhaps be able to point me in the right direction
  regarding this work?
  - Is there any documentation on the WIKI (or elsewhere) outlining this
  work and giving a background on the tasks that need to be done?
  - Who do I speak to about the work going on in OO regarding
  IAccessible2 and any other accessiblity work?
 

 The information on the wiki is here:
 https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+IAccessible2

 If this is the first time working on an open source project you might
 find some useful background information on the project here:

 http://openoffice.apache.org/orientation/

 To contribute to the development side of the project a first step is
 downloading the code and getting it to build.   Most of the program is
 C++, so you'll need to get a C++ Windows dev environment set up .  Our
 Building Guide is the starting point for that, but expect that you'll
 get stuck and need to ask questions on the list a few times before you
 successfully build.  Consider it a way of meeting more people on the
 project ;-)

 The Building Guide is here:
 http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/Building_Guide_AOO

 Regards,

 -Rob

  Thanks in advance
 
  Since I'm new here, I thought I'd give a brief background on myself
 below:
 
  Having worked as a Software Engineer in many different industries for
  over 15 years, I'm interested in getting involved in accessibility and
  assistive software development - preferably Open Source.
 
  I am passionate about developing accessibility / assistive software
  which empowers disabled people to overcome the barriers imposed by the
  difficulties and impairments they experience. In so doing, I want to
  help them lead fuller lives and have a chance to reach their full
  potential.
 
  I have a good general knowledge covering a number of disabilities -
  specific learning disabilities, and vision impairments e.g. Visual
  Stress / Irlen Syndrome
 
 
  Please let me know how and where I can contribute to the development
  of accessibility in Open Office. Thank you.
 
  Kind regards
 
  Glen Johnson
  Java Software Engineer
  LinkedIn: http://uk.linkedin.com/in/glenjohnsonsofteng
 
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Re: BasicAddonBuilder - problem (addon.xcu?) in AOO 4.0

2013-08-09 Thread Andrea Pescetti

Tsutomu Uchino wrote:

2013/8/9, Oliver Brinzing:

Hi Jörg,

it is possible to use a 'double' addon.xcu? The following works for me,
*but is it allowed*?

this change was intended, see
Allow setting toolbar name in Addons.xcu
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=121577
i don't think a double addon.xcu will work

I wrote a bit about that here[1]
[1] 
http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Talk:Extensions/Extensions_and_Apache_OpenOffice_4.0


Thanks, integrated into
http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Extensions/Extensions_and_Apache_OpenOffice_4.0
(but feel free to edit the page directly!)

I'm also putting Paolo in BCC, in case he finds some time to update his 
BasicAddonBuilder so that it is compatible with OpenOffice 4...


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Re: Forum vm reconfiguration.

2013-08-09 Thread Juergen Schmidt
Am Freitag, 9. August 2013 um 16:56 schrieb Alexandro Colorado:
 On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 3:47 AM, janI j...@apache.org wrote:
  
  Hi.
   
  As of the time of this mail, the forum vm has been reconfigured to cope
  with a higher load.
   
  This is just a very limited reconfiguration (max_connections=75), and I
  will over the next days do the following:
  - include all changes in backup (today phpBB changes are not in svn/backup)
  - adjust httpd worker threads, and calculate the needed max_connections
  - make a test setup of phpBB
  - convert myIsam table to innodb
  - maybe upgrade to mysql 5.6 (depends on input from arist)
  - add office 4.0 signature (depends on input from andrea, or anybody with
  phpBB knowledge)
   
  
  
 ​I wonder why the header is not the 'official' logo of AOO. I generated a
 couple of headers using the SVG logo typeset and colors, choose which one
 to use.
 http://imagebin.org/267011
 http://imagebin.org/267012​
  
 SVG source is here: http://imagebin.org/267014
  
  
Is it possible that you work on your own and don't communicate with others here 
on the list?  
This images are not known, not discussed, not approved not anything... Why 
should they be used at all?

If you want to join any effort and collaboration on further new images using 
the new logo, you are invited to do do via the list and with others. If you 
don't want this it' fine as well but don't check in or overwrite any existing 
logo of images without discussion ...

Juergen  
  
  - Run peak perfomance testing.
   
  Please use this thread to report outages, sql errors and if its slower than
  a snail (please compare to a danish snail, they are especially slow).
   
  rgds
  jan I.
   
  
  
  
  
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Re: call for forum admins.

2013-08-09 Thread Juergen Schmidt
Am Freitag, 9. August 2013 um 19:35 schrieb janI:
 Hi.
 
 Since I am now helping out with mysql and a few other things, could it be
 considered that I get admin status (or whatever it is called).
 
 I dont want to moderate entries, but e.g. help with the signature.
 
 my userID in forum/en is jani.
 
+1

Juergen 
 
 thanks in advance
 rgds
 jan I.
 
 




Re: Forum vm reconfiguration.

2013-08-09 Thread Alexandro Colorado
On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 3:03 PM, Juergen Schmidt jogischm...@gmail.comwrote:

 Am Freitag, 9. August 2013 um 16:56 schrieb Alexandro Colorado:
  On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 3:47 AM, janI j...@apache.org wrote:
 
   Hi.
  
   As of the time of this mail, the forum vm has been reconfigured to cope
   with a higher load.
  
   This is just a very limited reconfiguration (max_connections=75), and I
   will over the next days do the following:
   - include all changes in backup (today phpBB changes are not in
 svn/backup)
   - adjust httpd worker threads, and calculate the needed max_connections
   - make a test setup of phpBB
   - convert myIsam table to innodb
   - maybe upgrade to mysql 5.6 (depends on input from arist)
   - add office 4.0 signature (depends on input from andrea, or anybody
 with
   phpBB knowledge)
  
 
 
  ​I wonder why the header is not the 'official' logo of AOO. I generated a
  couple of headers using the SVG logo typeset and colors, choose which one
  to use.
  http://imagebin.org/267011
  http://imagebin.org/267012​
 
  SVG source is here: http://imagebin.org/267014
 
 
 Is it possible that you work on your own and don't communicate with others
 here on the list?
 This images are not known, not discussed, not approved not anything... Why
 should they be used at all?


Not sure what are you talking about. AFAIK the current images from the
forum header are pretty different from the logo. I talked about this with
imacat a while ago, but nothing really was done at the time.




 If you want to join any effort and collaboration on further new images
 using the new logo, you are invited to do do via the list and with others.
 If you don't want this it' fine as well but don't check in or overwrite any
 existing logo of images without discussion ...

 Juergen
 
   - Run peak perfomance testing.
  
   Please use this thread to report outages, sql errors and if its slower
 than
   a snail (please compare to a danish snail, they are especially slow).
  
   rgds
   jan I.
  
 
 
 
 
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  Apache OpenOffice Contributor
  http://www.openoffice.org
 





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Re: [IDEA] Back to School with AOO blog post

2013-08-09 Thread fred juan diaz


En date de : Ven 9.8.13, Regina Henschel rb.hensc...@t-online.de a écrit :

 Objet: Re: [IDEA] Back to School with AOO blog post
 À: dev@openoffice.apache.org
 Date: Vendredi 9 août 2013, 13h33
 
 bugreporte...@hushmail.com
 schrieb:
 
  On 06.08.2013 at 5:10 PM, sebb seb...@gmail.com
 wrote:On 6 August 2013 15:56, Donald Whytock dwhyt...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  On Tue, Aug 6, 2013 at 10:50 AM, Ian Lynch
 ianrly...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
  On 6 August 2013 15:40, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org
 wrote:
 
  It is that time of year now:  back
 to school.
 
  I wonder if this could make a good blog
 post.   Of course, AOO being
  free is core part of the story. 
 But even better would be if we had a
  top 10 list of ways in which AOO is
 great for school.
 
 
 
  1. Use the same software at home and at
 school without worrying about
  licensing
  2. Participate in the AOO community and
 provide useful things for others
  while you learn
  3. Fix broken Word documents
  4. Provide choice and promote transferrable
 skills by using more than one
  type of tool
  5. Get a qualification referenced to the
 European Qualifications Framework
 
 
  6. Fits nicely in a small/low income
 community's school budget.
 
  7. Work in multiple languages.
 
  8. use it on your llinux/win/mac machine
 
  9. having all you need for the school in one
 suit/program (cause other projects which has to make money
 trying to split up the programs like one program for writing
 onother for drawing to make more money)
 
  10. possible to open other formats like .doc (maybe
 note that it does not work perfect because it's a
 propritary/closed format) but works mostly
 
  maybe also note some features that are new to 4.0, like
 the optional side bar which makes the work easier and
 faster.
 
  If you also want to mention that there are still some
 things missing, here are my most wanted/missing featured I
 still remember from shool:
  (of course there are more things like  Inserting a
 bibliographic reference int a frame (e.g. image frame)
 (-will show up allways as [0]))
 
  #create a 3d surface chart (surface plots)
  #save the annotations in impress
  (don*t know if these  are still missing)
 
 11. Use it from USB-stick and so work everywhere using your
 personal 
 settings, even if AOO is not yet installed on your friends
 PC. German: 
 digitale Schultasche
 
 Kind regards
 Regina
 
 12 analyse existing school programs in different levels and see if it's 
possible
 to produce some resources that would be directly usable
 by students or pupils according  to their programs.

for example here are some little resources produced by EducOOo
for our 14 - 19 y o pupils

 galleries and extensions
http://campuslibre.educoo.org/main/document/document.php?cidReq=OUTILSAUTOUROOO
AOODraw has enough features to allow simple electronic schematic design either 
using connectors or grid (the choice in these galleries, some of them taken 
from dsciences)

millimetered, semi-log and log-log generator
http://campuslibre.educoo.org/courses/BACPROM/document/24_Logarithmes_et_exponentielles/milifred4.otg
an english version exists but as there is few text it would  be  easy to 
translate it in any language.
This module is used by dmaths

Oscilloscope simulator without macros
http://campuslibre.educoo.org/courses/BACPROSCIENCESPHYSIQ/document/1_CME2_Alimentations_Installations_Protection/OOoscillo2.ods
 

rem : after 25y of teaching , it  appears to me that that pupils are mainly 
looking for short howtos
(one page, no more) about specific issues related to their program of study (ex 
: how to deal with complex numbers in calc, how to write a simple formula, how 
to  structure a homeworrk with AOO, where can i  find an AOO template for my 
report of internship etc...) 

Best regards
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Re: call for forum admins.

2013-08-09 Thread Ricardo Berlasso
2013/8/9 janI j...@apache.org

 Hi.

 Since I am now helping out with mysql and a few other things, could it be
 considered that I get admin status (or whatever it is called).

 I dont want to moderate entries, but e.g. help with the signature.

 my userID in forum/en is jani.

 thanks in advance
 rgds
 jan I.



+1. If you need access to ES forums too, just let me know!

Regards
Ricardo


[Website]

2013-08-09 Thread d_mcelfresh
I am trying to download the new version but it just goes in circles and doesn’t 
download. I am running Open Office version 3.4 and Windows 8



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Re: [IDEA] Back to School with AOO blog post

2013-08-09 Thread Alexandro Colorado
There was some educational componentes builted called calclets but there
still not fully developed.

http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/School_Activities_with_Calc



On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 3:12 PM, fred juan diaz diaz_frede...@yahoo.frwrote:


 
 En date de : Ven 9.8.13, Regina Henschel rb.hensc...@t-online.de a
 écrit :

  Objet: Re: [IDEA] Back to School with AOO blog post
  À: dev@openoffice.apache.org
  Date: Vendredi 9 août 2013, 13h33

  bugreporte...@hushmail.com
  schrieb:
  
   On 06.08.2013 at 5:10 PM, sebb seb...@gmail.com
  wrote:On 6 August 2013 15:56, Donald Whytock dwhyt...@gmail.com
  wrote:
   On Tue, Aug 6, 2013 at 10:50 AM, Ian Lynch
  ianrly...@gmail.com
  wrote:
  
   On 6 August 2013 15:40, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org
  wrote:
  
   It is that time of year now:  back
  to school.
  
   I wonder if this could make a good blog
  post.   Of course, AOO being
   free is core part of the story.
  But even better would be if we had a
   top 10 list of ways in which AOO is
  great for school.
  
  
  
   1. Use the same software at home and at
  school without worrying about
   licensing
   2. Participate in the AOO community and
  provide useful things for others
   while you learn
   3. Fix broken Word documents
   4. Provide choice and promote transferrable
  skills by using more than one
   type of tool
   5. Get a qualification referenced to the
  European Qualifications Framework
  
  
   6. Fits nicely in a small/low income
  community's school budget.
  
   7. Work in multiple languages.
  
   8. use it on your llinux/win/mac machine
  
   9. having all you need for the school in one
  suit/program (cause other projects which has to make money
  trying to split up the programs like one program for writing
  onother for drawing to make more money)
  
   10. possible to open other formats like .doc (maybe
  note that it does not work perfect because it's a
  propritary/closed format) but works mostly
  
   maybe also note some features that are new to 4.0, like
  the optional side bar which makes the work easier and
  faster.
  
   If you also want to mention that there are still some
  things missing, here are my most wanted/missing featured I
  still remember from shool:
   (of course there are more things like  Inserting a
  bibliographic reference int a frame (e.g. image frame)
  (-will show up allways as [0]))
  
   #create a 3d surface chart (surface plots)
   #save the annotations in impress
   (don*t know if these  are still missing)

  11. Use it from USB-stick and so work everywhere using your
  personal
  settings, even if AOO is not yet installed on your friends
  PC. German:
  digitale Schultasche

  Kind regards
  Regina

  12 analyse existing school programs in different levels and see if it's
 possible
  to produce some resources that would be directly usable
  by students or pupils according  to their programs.

 for example here are some little resources produced by EducOOo
 for our 14 - 19 y o pupils

  galleries and extensions

 http://campuslibre.educoo.org/main/document/document.php?cidReq=OUTILSAUTOUROOO
 AOODraw has enough features to allow simple electronic schematic design
 either using connectors or grid (the choice in these galleries, some of
 them taken from dsciences)

 millimetered, semi-log and log-log generator

 http://campuslibre.educoo.org/courses/BACPROM/document/24_Logarithmes_et_exponentielles/milifred4.otg
 an english version exists but as there is few text it would  be  easy to
 translate it in any language.
 This module is used by dmaths

 Oscilloscope simulator without macros

 http://campuslibre.educoo.org/courses/BACPROSCIENCESPHYSIQ/document/1_CME2_Alimentations_Installations_Protection/OOoscillo2.ods

 rem : after 25y of teaching , it  appears to me that that pupils are
 mainly looking for short howtos
 (one page, no more) about specific issues related to their program of
 study (ex : how to deal with complex numbers in calc, how to write a simple
 formula, how to  structure a homeworrk with AOO, where can i  find an AOO
 template for my report of internship etc...)

 Best regards
 Fred Juan DIAZ



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Re: FYI: Forum vm reconfiguration.

2013-08-09 Thread Rory O'Farrell
Gone again about 21:30 utc+1

Working good until then, about 3 sec response.

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Re: BasicAddonBuilder - problem (addon.xcu?) in AOO 4.0

2013-08-09 Thread Alexandro Colorado
On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 3:01 PM, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org wrote:

 Tsutomu Uchino wrote:

 2013/8/9, Oliver Brinzing:

  Hi Jörg,

 it is possible to use a 'double' addon.xcu? The following works for me,
 *but is it allowed*?

 this change was intended, see
 Allow setting toolbar name in Addons.xcu
 https://issues.apache.org/ooo/**show_bug.cgi?id=121577https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=121577
 i don't think a double addon.xcu will work

 I wrote a bit about that here[1]
 [1] http://wiki.openoffice.org/**wiki/Talk:Extensions/**
 Extensions_and_Apache_**OpenOffice_4.0http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Talk:Extensions/Extensions_and_Apache_OpenOffice_4.0


 Thanks, integrated into
 http://wiki.openoffice.org/**wiki/Extensions/Extensions_**
 and_Apache_OpenOffice_4.0http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Extensions/Extensions_and_Apache_OpenOffice_4.0
 (but feel free to edit the page directly!)

 I'm also putting Paolo in BCC, in case he finds some time to update his
 BasicAddonBuilder so that it is compatible with OpenOffice 4...


​I heard similar reports from the OpenERP's Report designer plugin at OE.
https://launchpad.net/aeroo
​




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Re: [Website]

2013-08-09 Thread Rory O'Farrell
On Fri, 9 Aug 2013 20:28:46 +
d_mcelfr...@yahoo.com wrote:

 I am trying to download the new version but it just goes in circles and 
 doesn’t download. I am running Open Office version 3.4 and Windows 8

Are  you using http://www.openoffice.org/download/
?

If that dies not identify the version you require use
http://www.openoffice.org/download/other.html
right click on the version needed and select to download.

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Re: BasicAddonBuilder - problem (addon.xcu?) in AOO 4.0

2013-08-09 Thread Jörg Schmidt
 From: Andrea Pescetti [mailto:pesce...@apache.org] 

 I'm also putting Paolo in BCC, in case he finds some time to 
 update his 
 BasicAddonBuilder so that it is compatible with OpenOffice 4...

I'm Paolo, this afternoon, sent an email and asked him to update the extension.

I hope that the correct address is p_ma...@libero.it?



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Re: BasicAddonBuilder - problem (addon.xcu?) in AOO 4.0

2013-08-09 Thread Andrew Douglas Pitonyak


On 08/09/2013 07:56 AM, Oliver Brinzing wrote:

Hi Jörg,

What is the problem with the following addon.xcu? This functions in AOO 3.4.1 
(for example) but

not in AOO 4.0.

aoo 4 requires a new element ToolBarItems, see below.

Regards
Oliver
I am guessing, then, that an add-on with toolbars will no longer be 
compatible between AOO and LO.


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Re: Forum vm reconfiguration.

2013-08-09 Thread janI
On 9 August 2013 22:07, Alexandro Colorado j...@oooes.org wrote:

 On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 3:03 PM, Juergen Schmidt jogischm...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  Am Freitag, 9. August 2013 um 16:56 schrieb Alexandro Colorado:
   On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 3:47 AM, janI j...@apache.org wrote:
  
Hi.
   
As of the time of this mail, the forum vm has been reconfigured to
 cope
with a higher load.
   
This is just a very limited reconfiguration (max_connections=75),
 and I
will over the next days do the following:
- include all changes in backup (today phpBB changes are not in
  svn/backup)
- adjust httpd worker threads, and calculate the needed
 max_connections
- make a test setup of phpBB
- convert myIsam table to innodb
- maybe upgrade to mysql 5.6 (depends on input from arist)
- add office 4.0 signature (depends on input from andrea, or anybody
  with
phpBB knowledge)
   
  
  
   I wonder why the header is not the 'official' logo of AOO. I
 generated a
   couple of headers using the SVG logo typeset and colors, choose which
 one
   to use.
   http://imagebin.org/267011
   http://imagebin.org/267012
  
   SVG source is here: http://imagebin.org/267014
  
  
  Is it possible that you work on your own and don't communicate with
 others
  here on the list?
  This images are not known, not discussed, not approved not anything...
 Why
  should they be used at all?
 

 Not sure what are you talking about. AFAIK the current images from the
 forum header are pretty different from the logo. I talked about this with
 imacat a while ago, but nothing really was done at the time.



 
  If you want to join any effort and collaboration on further new images
  using the new logo, you are invited to do do via the list and with
 others.
  If you don't want this it' fine as well but don't check in or overwrite
 any
  existing logo of images without discussion ...
 
  Juergen
  
- Run peak perfomance testing.
   
Please use this thread to report outages, sql errors and if its
 slower
  than
a snail (please compare to a danish snail, they are especially slow).
   
rgds
jan I.
   
  
  
  
  
   --
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   Apache OpenOffice Contributor
   http://www.openoffice.org
  
 
 
 

 thanks to a big helping hand from arist, the mysql tables are now
optimized, and cpu usage is nice low.

rgds
jan I.


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Re: call for forum admins.

2013-08-09 Thread janI
hi

Does phpBB allow a superAdmin or do I need admin rights in every forum ?

my work will be in parallel for all forums.

rgds
jan I.


On 10 August 2013 00:21, Hagar Delest hagar.del...@laposte.net wrote:

 +1 of course.
 Thanks!

 Hagar


 Le 09/08/2013 19:35, janI a écrit :


  Hi.

 Since I am now helping out with mysql and a few other things, could it be
 considered that I get admin status (or whatever it is called).

 I dont want to moderate entries, but e.g. help with the signature.

 my userID in forum/en is jani.

 thanks in advance
 rgds
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[discuss] Forum maintenance, scheduled downtime

2013-08-09 Thread janI
Hi.


We have now reconfigured mysql, and arist has optimized all myisam tables,
so now it actually runs pretty good.

BUT I would still loke to do updates, so the vm enters a maintainable
status, with good stable versions. In order to that I need to schedule
downtime.

We had a long discussion in infra, and it is not possible to do a parallel
vm, due to the size of this vm, so we have to do inline (of course with
backups etc).

Jira https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-6652 tracks this issue.

The downtime will be in 3 blocks:

1) Patch mysql 5.1 to highest 5.1 patch level
   This is needed to convert tables to innodb.
   Approx. downtime: 2-3 hours
   when: a.s.a.p.

2) update ubuntu 10.04 to 12.04 and add puppet with security measured
(standard infra)
Approx. downtime 1 day
When: next weekend

3) Update mysql to 5.6 and upgrade db.
Approx. downtime 1 day
When: next weekend.

Any thought about this ?


If anybody is strict against it, with a good reason, please give it a -1.

rgds
jan I.


Re: [discuss] Forum maintenance, scheduled downtime

2013-08-09 Thread Ricardo Berlasso
2013/8/10 janI j...@apache.org

 Hi.


 We have now reconfigured mysql, and arist has optimized all myisam tables,
 so now it actually runs pretty good.

 BUT I would still loke to do updates, so the vm enters a maintainable
 status, with good stable versions. In order to that I need to schedule
 downtime.

 We had a long discussion in infra, and it is not possible to do a parallel
 vm, due to the size of this vm, so we have to do inline (of course with
 backups etc).

 Jira https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-6652 tracks this issue.

 The downtime will be in 3 blocks:

 1) Patch mysql 5.1 to highest 5.1 patch level
This is needed to convert tables to innodb.
Approx. downtime: 2-3 hours
when: a.s.a.p.

 2) update ubuntu 10.04 to 12.04 and add puppet with security measured
 (standard infra)
 Approx. downtime 1 day
 When: next weekend

 3) Update mysql to 5.6 and upgrade db.
 Approx. downtime 1 day
 When: next weekend.

 Any thought about this ?


 If anybody is strict against it, with a good reason, please give it a -1.

 rgds
 jan I.



No problem from my part. Many thanks for your work!

Regards
Ricardo


Re: [discuss] Forum maintenance, scheduled downtime

2013-08-09 Thread Rory O'Farrell
On Sat, 10 Aug 2013 02:48:43 +0200
janI j...@apache.org wrote:

 Hi.
 
 
 We have now reconfigured mysql, and arist has optimized all myisam tables,
 so now it actually runs pretty good.
 
 BUT I would still loke to do updates, so the vm enters a maintainable
 status, with good stable versions. In order to that I need to schedule
 downtime.
 
 We had a long discussion in infra, and it is not possible to do a parallel
 vm, due to the size of this vm, so we have to do inline (of course with
 backups etc).
 
 Jira https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-6652 tracks this issue.
 
 The downtime will be in 3 blocks:
 
 1) Patch mysql 5.1 to highest 5.1 patch level
This is needed to convert tables to innodb.
Approx. downtime: 2-3 hours
when: a.s.a.p.
 
 2) update ubuntu 10.04 to 12.04 and add puppet with security measured
 (standard infra)
 Approx. downtime 1 day
 When: next weekend
 
 3) Update mysql to 5.6 and upgrade db.
 Approx. downtime 1 day
 When: next weekend.
 
 Any thought about this ?
 
 
 If anybody is strict against it, with a good reason, please give it a -1.
 


+1 - the sooner the better!  Can, without great work - a Downtime message 
display in place of a 404 or similar ambiguous message?

-- 
Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie

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Re: call for forum admins.

2013-08-09 Thread Andrea Pescetti

janI wrote:

Since I am now helping out with mysql and a few other things, could it be
considered that I get admin status (or whatever it is called).
I dont want to moderate entries, but e.g. help with the signature.


Sure, but let's take the occasion to understand if we need someone else 
with full privileges on the PHPBB application (i.e., no shell access but 
full administration of the forum).


If one of the regulars who post here about the forum is willing to 
take up this role (in addition to you), I'd be all for it, since they 
know and use the application better than, for example, you and me.


Regards,
  Andrea.

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