Re: Forum vm reconfiguration.
On 11 August 2013 00:40, Larry Gusaas larry.gus...@gmail.com wrote: On 2013-08-10 3:17 PM janI wrote: On 10 August 2013 23:01, Alexandro Colorado j...@oooes.org wrote: I include one wit the Orb for the forum as well as the wiki: https://issues.apache.org/ooo/**show_bug.cgi?id=122998https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=122998I didn't want to go with a monochrome since I think it makes it too plain to the light blues that the forum had. Instead I did replace the eagles with the orb. As for the wiki, it should replace the file http://wiki.openoffice.org/w/**skins/aoo/header.pnghttp://wiki.openoffice.org/w/skins/aoo/header.png great job I like it. If we make more space on the top in forum (which is easy to do), we could use the wiki header for forum as well (of course with the text forum instead of wiki. Users of wiki and forum are highly identical so they should have identical experience. rgds jan I. Shouldn't you discuss this on the forum to see what the forum users want? Previous changes were discussed there, not imposed from outside the forum. I agree that is should be discussed on the forum, and now that is has been announced on the list I hope it will be discussed. But please remember all decisions are made on the mailling list in accordance with the apache way therefore we need to discuss it on the list as well. rgds jan I. -- __**___ Larry I. Gusaas Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan Canada Website: http://larry-gusaas.com An artist is never ahead of his time but most people are far behind theirs. - Edgard Varese --**--**- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@openoffice.**apache.orgdev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Forum vm reconfiguration.
On 2013-08-11 1:27 AM janI wrote: On 11 August 2013 00:40, Larry Gusaas larry.gus...@gmail.com wrote: Shouldn't you discuss this on the forum to see what the forum users want? Previous changes were discussed there, not imposed from outside the forum. I agree that is should be discussed on the forum, and now that is has been announced on the list I hope it will be discussed. I haven't seen anyone starting a thread on the forum asking for input about changes to the header. But please remember all decisions are made on the mailling list in accordance with the apache way therefore we need to discuss it on the list as well. Did I suggest otherwise? Where was the discussion about changing the header before designs were uploaded? Here was the original post on this subject: I wonder why the header is not the 'official' logo of AOO. I generated a couple of headers using the SVG logo typeset and colors, choose which one to use. Is that the Apache way? -- _ Larry I. Gusaas Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan Canada Website: http://larry-gusaas.com An artist is never ahead of his time but most people are far behind theirs. - Edgard Varese - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: FYI: Forum vm reconfiguration.
Forum now nice and stable for past 24 hours or so (only lightly loaded at present - 85 users on en-Forum). -- Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Forum vm reconfiguration.
On 11 August 2013 10:05, Larry Gusaas larry.gus...@gmail.com wrote: On 2013-08-11 1:27 AM janI wrote: On 11 August 2013 00:40, Larry Gusaas larry.gus...@gmail.com wrote: Shouldn't you discuss this on the forum to see what the forum users want? Previous changes were discussed there, not imposed from outside the forum. I agree that is should be discussed on the forum, and now that is has been announced on the list I hope it will be discussed. I haven't seen anyone starting a thread on the forum asking for input about changes to the header. Ok, but does it really matter if the discussion starts here or on the forum ? To me its important that we discuss it, reach consensus and move ahead. I am f.x. one that are not active on the forum, but still work to make sure all our services have a common look feel (and also maintain our servers to make sure all our users have a good experience). I feel its important that wiki, forum and www have similar look so users dont get confused, but it is just my opinion. But please remember all decisions are made on the mailling list in accordance with the apache way therefore we need to discuss it on the list as well. Did I suggest otherwise? Where was the discussion about changing the header before designs were uploaded? Here was the original post on this subject: I wonder why the header is not the 'official' logo of AOO. I generated a couple of headers using the SVG logo typeset and colors, choose which one to use. Is that the Apache way? First of all neither forum header nor wiki header have not been uploaded, it awaits lazy consensus on this thread. Uploading the headers without consensus would really not be the apache way. The current set of suggestions are quite different from the first set, and are of course open for discussion, but taking imitative and proposing a change, is in my opinion the apache way. To be fair the start of the discussion comes from the unstable forum which we try to stabilize, and while doing do so it is natural that people look to see what else could/should be changed. I expect other changes when we upgrade the different software packages (like phpBB itself). Take this as an opportunity, its the first time in several years, that the forum is being deeply maintained and undergo changes. Its quite possible that we cannot implement all ideas (after consensus), but having open BZ issues makes it possible to make the changes as resources become available. rgds jan I. -- _ Larry I. Gusaas Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan Canada Website: http://larry-gusaas.com An artist is never ahead of his time but most people are far behind theirs. - Edgard Varese - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Forum vm reconfiguration.
On 11 August 2013 10:49, Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie wrote: On Sun, 11 Aug 2013 10:41:47 +0200 janI j...@apache.org wrote: On 11 August 2013 10:05, Larry Gusaas larry.gus...@gmail.com wrote: On 2013-08-11 1:27 AM janI wrote: On 11 August 2013 00:40, Larry Gusaas larry.gus...@gmail.com wrote: Shouldn't you discuss this on the forum to see what the forum users want? Previous changes were discussed there, not imposed from outside the forum. I agree that is should be discussed on the forum, and now that is has been announced on the list I hope it will be discussed. I haven't seen anyone starting a thread on the forum asking for input about changes to the header. Ok, but does it really matter if the discussion starts here or on the forum ? To me its important that we discuss it, reach consensus and move ahead. I am f.x. one that are not active on the forum, but still work to make sure all our services have a common look feel (and also maintain our servers to make sure all our users have a good experience). I feel its important that wiki, forum and www have similar look so users dont get confused, but it is just my opinion. But please remember all decisions are made on the mailling list in accordance with the apache way therefore we need to discuss it on the list as well. Did I suggest otherwise? Where was the discussion about changing the header before designs were uploaded? Here was the original post on this subject: I wonder why the header is not the 'official' logo of AOO. I generated a couple of headers using the SVG logo typeset and colors, choose which one to use. Is that the Apache way? First of all neither forum header nor wiki header have not been uploaded, it awaits lazy consensus on this thread. Uploading the headers without consensus would really not be the apache way. The current set of suggestions are quite different from the first set, and are of course open for discussion, but taking imitative and proposing a change, is in my opinion the apache way. To be fair the start of the discussion comes from the unstable forum which we try to stabilize, and while doing do so it is natural that people look to see what else could/should be changed. I expect other changes when we upgrade the different software packages (like phpBB itself). Take this as an opportunity, its the first time in several years, that the forum is being deeply maintained and undergo changes. Its quite possible that we cannot implement all ideas (after consensus), but having open BZ issues makes it possible to make the changes as resources become available. rgds jan I. -- _ Larry I. Gusaas Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan Canada Website: http://larry-gusaas.com An artist is never ahead of his time but most people are far behind theirs. - Edgard Varese The application of consistent house styling ought not be a major concern, once the decision has been made to use such house styling for a project. More important is getting the Forum(s) stable before back to school/college demand ups the traffic to a peak. If janI is coming to grips with the software situation, the styling will be a relatively easy tweak at any time. [And many thanks, janI, keep up the good work!] It is quite possible that the intermittent Forum availability and the lack of AOO 4.0 in Forum signature has hindered takeup of AOO 4.0. thx for your kind words, arist did a good job on getting the cpu load down and I will continue with upgrades during the week. I have been looking for hint where the signature is being configured, but it seems I look in the wrong places or use wrong words. Do you have a clue where its configured ? rgds jan I. -- Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: mail templates.
On 10/08/2013 janI wrote: I agree to that, and I did not mean an automated mail, but just a template we can copy and modify to secure we all give the relevant information and more. If we find out that we tend to give similar answers, we should turn them into web pages. We have done so in a couple of occasions in the past, and this works because we don't forget information and everyone can locate it. So: nothing against having template answers, but gradually we should make them as short as possible and use web pages for the common content. Regards, Andrea. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Forum vm reconfiguration.
+1. We should focus first on the forum maintenance, this was the initial target of this thread. Decorum can wait. The header has never been changed after the move to ASF servers so it's not a priority. Hagar Le 11/08/2013 10:49, Rory O'Farrell a écrit : On Sun, 11 Aug 2013 10:41:47 +0200 janI j...@apache.org wrote: On 11 August 2013 10:05, Larry Gusaas larry.gus...@gmail.com wrote: On 2013-08-11 1:27 AM janI wrote: On 11 August 2013 00:40, Larry Gusaas larry.gus...@gmail.com wrote: Shouldn't you discuss this on the forum to see what the forum users want? Previous changes were discussed there, not imposed from outside the forum. I agree that is should be discussed on the forum, and now that is has been announced on the list I hope it will be discussed. I haven't seen anyone starting a thread on the forum asking for input about changes to the header. Ok, but does it really matter if the discussion starts here or on the forum ? To me its important that we discuss it, reach consensus and move ahead. I am f.x. one that are not active on the forum, but still work to make sure all our services have a common look feel (and also maintain our servers to make sure all our users have a good experience). I feel its important that wiki, forum and www have similar look so users dont get confused, but it is just my opinion. But please remember all decisions are made on the mailling list in accordance with the apache way therefore we need to discuss it on the list as well. Did I suggest otherwise? Where was the discussion about changing the header before designs were uploaded? Here was the original post on this subject: I wonder why the header is not the 'official' logo of AOO. I generated a couple of headers using the SVG logo typeset and colors, choose which one to use. Is that the Apache way? First of all neither forum header nor wiki header have not been uploaded, it awaits lazy consensus on this thread. Uploading the headers without consensus would really not be the apache way. The current set of suggestions are quite different from the first set, and are of course open for discussion, but taking imitative and proposing a change, is in my opinion the apache way. To be fair the start of the discussion comes from the unstable forum which we try to stabilize, and while doing do so it is natural that people look to see what else could/should be changed. I expect other changes when we upgrade the different software packages (like phpBB itself). Take this as an opportunity, its the first time in several years, that the forum is being deeply maintained and undergo changes. Its quite possible that we cannot implement all ideas (after consensus), but having open BZ issues makes it possible to make the changes as resources become available. rgds jan I. -- _ Larry I. Gusaas Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan Canada Website: http://larry-gusaas.com An artist is never ahead of his time but most people are far behind theirs. - Edgard Varese The application of consistent house styling ought not be a major concern, once the decision has been made to use such house styling for a project. More important is getting the Forum(s) stable before back to school/college demand ups the traffic to a peak. If janI is coming to grips with the software situation, the styling will be a relatively easy tweak at any time. [And many thanks, janI, keep up the good work!] It is quite possible that the intermittent Forum availability and the lack of AOO 4.0 in Forum signature has hindered takeup of AOO 4.0. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Forum vm reconfiguration.
On Sun, 11 Aug 2013 10:53:56 +0200 janI j...@apache.org wrote: On 11 August 2013 10:49, Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie wrote: On Sun, 11 Aug 2013 10:41:47 +0200 janI j...@apache.org wrote: On 11 August 2013 10:05, Larry Gusaas larry.gus...@gmail.com wrote: On 2013-08-11 1:27 AM janI wrote: On 11 August 2013 00:40, Larry Gusaas larry.gus...@gmail.com wrote: Shouldn't you discuss this on the forum to see what the forum users want? Previous changes were discussed there, not imposed from outside the forum. I agree that is should be discussed on the forum, and now that is has been announced on the list I hope it will be discussed. I haven't seen anyone starting a thread on the forum asking for input about changes to the header. Ok, but does it really matter if the discussion starts here or on the forum ? To me its important that we discuss it, reach consensus and move ahead. I am f.x. one that are not active on the forum, but still work to make sure all our services have a common look feel (and also maintain our servers to make sure all our users have a good experience). I feel its important that wiki, forum and www have similar look so users dont get confused, but it is just my opinion. But please remember all decisions are made on the mailling list in accordance with the apache way therefore we need to discuss it on the list as well. Did I suggest otherwise? Where was the discussion about changing the header before designs were uploaded? Here was the original post on this subject: I wonder why the header is not the 'official' logo of AOO. I generated a couple of headers using the SVG logo typeset and colors, choose which one to use. Is that the Apache way? First of all neither forum header nor wiki header have not been uploaded, it awaits lazy consensus on this thread. Uploading the headers without consensus would really not be the apache way. The current set of suggestions are quite different from the first set, and are of course open for discussion, but taking imitative and proposing a change, is in my opinion the apache way. To be fair the start of the discussion comes from the unstable forum which we try to stabilize, and while doing do so it is natural that people look to see what else could/should be changed. I expect other changes when we upgrade the different software packages (like phpBB itself). Take this as an opportunity, its the first time in several years, that the forum is being deeply maintained and undergo changes. Its quite possible that we cannot implement all ideas (after consensus), but having open BZ issues makes it possible to make the changes as resources become available. rgds jan I. -- _ Larry I. Gusaas Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan Canada Website: http://larry-gusaas.com An artist is never ahead of his time but most people are far behind theirs. - Edgard Varese The application of consistent house styling ought not be a major concern, once the decision has been made to use such house styling for a project. More important is getting the Forum(s) stable before back to school/college demand ups the traffic to a peak. If janI is coming to grips with the software situation, the styling will be a relatively easy tweak at any time. [And many thanks, janI, keep up the good work!] It is quite possible that the intermittent Forum availability and the lack of AOO 4.0 in Forum signature has hindered takeup of AOO 4.0. thx for your kind words, arist did a good job on getting the cpu load down and I will continue with upgrades during the week. I have been looking for hint where the signature is being configured, but it seems I look in the wrong places or use wrong words. Do you have a clue where its configured ? rgds jan I. It is so long since I registered on the Forum that I can't remember with any certainty. It must be in the initial registration module. I suggest you try a search for NeoOffice in that module, as there is a default signature line incorporating that word which ought not return too many hits. Hagar may know more. -- Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Forum vm reconfiguration.
On Sun, Aug 11, 2013 at 4:05 AM, Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie wrote: On Sun, 11 Aug 2013 10:53:56 +0200 janI j...@apache.org wrote: On 11 August 2013 10:49, Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie wrote: On Sun, 11 Aug 2013 10:41:47 +0200 janI j...@apache.org wrote: On 11 August 2013 10:05, Larry Gusaas larry.gus...@gmail.com wrote: On 2013-08-11 1:27 AM janI wrote: On 11 August 2013 00:40, Larry Gusaas larry.gus...@gmail.com wrote: Shouldn't you discuss this on the forum to see what the forum users want? Previous changes were discussed there, not imposed from outside the forum. I agree that is should be discussed on the forum, and now that is has been announced on the list I hope it will be discussed. I haven't seen anyone starting a thread on the forum asking for input about changes to the header. Ok, but does it really matter if the discussion starts here or on the forum ? To me its important that we discuss it, reach consensus and move ahead. I am f.x. one that are not active on the forum, but still work to make sure all our services have a common look feel (and also maintain our servers to make sure all our users have a good experience). I feel its important that wiki, forum and www have similar look so users dont get confused, but it is just my opinion. But please remember all decisions are made on the mailling list in accordance with the apache way therefore we need to discuss it on the list as well. Did I suggest otherwise? Where was the discussion about changing the header before designs were uploaded? Here was the original post on this subject: I wonder why the header is not the 'official' logo of AOO. I generated a couple of headers using the SVG logo typeset and colors, choose which one to use. Is that the Apache way? First of all neither forum header nor wiki header have not been uploaded, it awaits lazy consensus on this thread. Uploading the headers without consensus would really not be the apache way. The current set of suggestions are quite different from the first set, and are of course open for discussion, but taking imitative and proposing a change, is in my opinion the apache way. To be fair the start of the discussion comes from the unstable forum which we try to stabilize, and while doing do so it is natural that people look to see what else could/should be changed. I expect other changes when we upgrade the different software packages (like phpBB itself). Take this as an opportunity, its the first time in several years, that the forum is being deeply maintained and undergo changes. Its quite possible that we cannot implement all ideas (after consensus), but having open BZ issues makes it possible to make the changes as resources become available. rgds jan I. -- _ Larry I. Gusaas Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan Canada Website: http://larry-gusaas.com An artist is never ahead of his time but most people are far behind theirs. - Edgard Varese The application of consistent house styling ought not be a major concern, once the decision has been made to use such house styling for a project. More important is getting the Forum(s) stable before back to school/college demand ups the traffic to a peak. If janI is coming to grips with the software situation, the styling will be a relatively easy tweak at any time. [And many thanks, janI, keep up the good work!] It is quite possible that the intermittent Forum availability and the lack of AOO 4.0 in Forum signature has hindered takeup of AOO 4.0. thx for your kind words, arist did a good job on getting the cpu load down and I will continue with upgrades during the week. I have been looking for hint where the signature is being configured, but it seems I look in the wrong places or use wrong words. Do you have a clue where its configured ? rgds jan I. It is so long since I registered on the Forum that I can't remember with any certainty. It must be in the initial registration module. I suggest you try a search for NeoOffice in that module, as there is a default signature line incorporating that word which ought not return too many hits. Right now everything should be updated, the new logo and branding guidelines were already discussed and agreed upon. This not only means forum, but wiki, extensions, blogs, www, openoffice.apache and other minor oo sites (i.e. forum index page). Most of them are already updated. Some are still lagging. Not sure which is the hold up regarding not conforming with the branding guidelines. Hagar may know more. -- Rory O'Farrell
Re: Forum vm reconfiguration.
Hagar Delest wrote: We should focus first on the forum maintenance, this was the initial target of this thread. Decorum can wait. The header has never been changed after the move to ASF servers so it's not a priority. It is still a change that should be done sooner or later, and the people involved are different from those involved with the system maintenance. So, while I agree that this is not the thread for it, I recommend that a discussion is started on the forum to get some feedback on the proposals we have: https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=122998 Remember, a consistent branding is a big strength for this project. There are countless scam or dubious sites around, and using the right branding on our sites can help users in recognizing the official sites, even though active community members do not need it. Regards, Andrea. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Voluntário do Projeto
Dear Prof. Sena, your message below was sent to an English-only mailing list. We welcome new volunteers all the time, thank you for contacting us. You can find information in English at http://openoffice.apache.org/orientation/ or you may want to subscribe the PT-BR mailing list for discussion with other volunteers in Brazilian Portuguese: http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/openoffice-geral-ptbr/ Regards, Andrea. On 02/08/2013 Eduardo Lucas Sena wrote: Prezados, boa noite! Meu nome é Eduardo Lucas Sena, sou professor de tecnologia para faculdades de pequeno, medio e grande porte localizas no Norte do Estado do Espirito Santo, Leste de Minas, Sul e Extremos Sul da Bahia, tecnico, graduado, Pós Latus Senso e Stritus Senso com titulação final de Mestre e aluno especial do curso de Doutorado em Engenharia de Computação pela Universidade Federal do Espirito Santo. Pretendo contribuir com o projeto, na divulgação, suporte técnico e teste de versões a fim de dirimir melhorias para o mesmo. O meu curriculo completo na base Lattes do MEC esta no Link abaixo como também o endereço da minha wiki no Projeto fedora o qual sou embaixador aqui no Norte do Estado do ES. Atualmente trabalho como professor das disciplinas de Engenharia de Software, Sistemas de Informação e Rede de Computadores da Faculdade vale do Cricaré a qual estou mediando uma parceria com a Red Hat. Atenciosamente. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Release 4.0.0 binaries storage and SF
On 02/08/2013 Fernando Cassia wrote: care to explain why AOO is not mirrored? Because the Apache mirrors were not ready yet. Infra, namely Henk, now managed to remove the old versions and squeeze some additional space on the servers to make OpenOffice 4.0 available on the Apache mirrors too, much like it worked for 3.4. So now all default options are obviously unchanged, and we still download from the SF mirrors, but at the bottom of http://www.openoffice.org/download/other.html you find a link to the Apache mirrors that carry OpenOffice. Regards, Andrea. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Unnecesary filestructure on images
On Sat, Aug 10, 2013 at 10:35 PM, Alexandro Colorado j...@oooes.org wrote: I think the image structure on the website is a bit messy, there has been some cleanup done by kschenk but I think there is still a lot of clean up work to be done. For example, the new logo, was simply draged and drop to the AOOLogos folder with a huge name. I understand the name was needed to identify it between the rest of the competitive logos. But now that is selected, the current name is unecessary long. Apache_OpenOffice_Logo_ChrisR_selected_2013-06_optim_300w.png http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/openoffice/ooo-site/trunk/content/images/AOO_logos/Apache_OpenOffice_Logo_ChrisR_selected_2013-06_optim_300w.png?view=log At the same time we have old logos which had been untouch. I think the webdevs have small understanding of a svn is builted so that the files are updated without having different versions laying arround. Over this example, ooo-logo.png and AOO4_website_logo.png http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/openoffice/ooo-site/trunk/content/images/AOO_logos/AOO4_website_logo.png?view=log exist. All these proliferation of logos, usually will built up to become incredibly messy to work. I suggest to put the information such as author, version, status, etc. on the comments of the commit and not on the filename. Likewise to take the time to look for the source of the image, since there is an SVG/ folder to link the source of them, and finally if there are different images (sizes) to have a common convention. If you want to review the images please go here: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/openoffice/ooo-site/trunk/content/images/AOO_logos/ -- Alexandro Colorado Apache OpenOffice Contributor http://www.openoffice.org You are correct that more work on moving/organizing the logos needs to be done. The new branding branch is really for storing sources of them (svg files) only. Right now it only contains 4.0 items. I don't see the long file names as an issue, but maybe others have an opinion about this. The images/AOO_logos area was created/added to when we brought the website up under Apache so we could locate the website logo easier, but really, this is not needed as a separate area. Basically, it would be nice if we could get ALL real svg files for the logos, old and new, in the new branding area (some items with an .svg extension are not really svg source), and ALL renderings in another area. -- - MzK Success is falling nine times and getting up ten. -- Jon Bon Jovi
Re: Unnecesary filestructure on images
Am 08/11/2013 05:56 PM, schrieb Kay Schenk: On Sat, Aug 10, 2013 at 10:35 PM, Alexandro Coloradoj...@oooes.org wrote: I think the image structure on the website is a bit messy, there has been some cleanup done by kschenk but I think there is still a lot of clean up work to be done. For example, the new logo, was simply draged and drop to the AOOLogos folder with a huge name. I understand the name was needed to identify it between the rest of the competitive logos. But now that is selected, the current name is unecessary long. Apache_OpenOffice_Logo_ChrisR_selected_2013-06_optim_300w.png http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/openoffice/ooo-site/trunk/content/images/AOO_logos/Apache_OpenOffice_Logo_ChrisR_selected_2013-06_optim_300w.png?view=log At the same time we have old logos which had been untouch. I think the webdevs have small understanding of a svn is builted so that the files are updated without having different versions laying arround. Over this example, ooo-logo.png and AOO4_website_logo.png http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/openoffice/ooo-site/trunk/content/images/AOO_logos/AOO4_website_logo.png?view=log exist. All these proliferation of logos, usually will built up to become incredibly messy to work. I suggest to put the information such as author, version, status, etc. on the comments of the commit and not on the filename. Likewise to take the time to look for the source of the image, since there is an SVG/ folder to link the source of them, and finally if there are different images (sizes) to have a common convention. If you want to review the images please go here: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/openoffice/ooo-site/trunk/content/images/AOO_logos/ -- Alexandro Colorado Apache OpenOffice Contributor http://www.openoffice.org You are correct that more work on moving/organizing the logos needs to be done. The new branding branch is really for storing sources of them (svg files) only. Right now it only contains 4.0 items. I don't see the long file names as an issue, but maybe others have an opinion about this. Instead of search somewhere in SVN log data I prefer a CHANGES.txt that explains, e.g., fileanmes. Marcus The images/AOO_logos area was created/added to when we brought the website up under Apache so we could locate the website logo easier, but really, this is not needed as a separate area. Basically, it would be nice if we could get ALL real svg files for the logos, old and new, in the new branding area (some items with an .svg extension are not really svg source), and ALL renderings in another area. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: [L10N Download Websites] Deleting old JavaScript files that are no longer necessary
done Am 08/04/2013 04:22 PM, schrieb Marcus (OOo): Hi webmasters, I'm planning to remove old JavaScript files that are remains from older times. Furthermore they are no longer working and necessary: .../download/download_bouncer.js .../download/download_improved.js .../download/download_mirrorbrain.js .../download/download_mirrorbrain_improved.js .../download/globalvars_improved.js .../download/languages_improved.js When your language has a specific download area (like it is with http://www.openoffice.org/download/;), then make sure you don't use these files anymore. When you still use them, then I guess that the script logic is not working already since a longer time and needs to be reviewed anyway. The first step would be to use the new files: .../download/download.js .../download/globalvars.js .../download/languages.js I would like to do the removal of the old files at the end of next week. Thank you very much for your attention. Marcus - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Unnecesary filestructure on images
Sent from my iPhone On Aug 11, 2013, at 1:35 AM, Alexandro Colorado j...@oooes.org wrote: I think the image structure on the website is a bit messy, there has been some cleanup done by kschenk but I think there is still a lot of clean up work to be done. For example, the new logo, was simply draged and drop to the AOOLogos folder with a huge name. I understand the name was needed to identify it between the rest of the competitive logos. But now that is selected, the current name is unecessary long. Apache_OpenOffice_Logo_ChrisR_selected_2013-06_optim_300w.pnghttp://svn.apache.org/viewvc/openoffice/ooo-site/trunk/content/images/AOO_logos/Apache_OpenOffice_Logo_ChrisR_selected_2013-06_optim_300w.png?view=log At the same time we have old logos which had been untouch. I think the webdevs have small understanding of a svn is builted so that the files are updated without having different versions laying arround. This is not so. I can assure you that I completely understand SVN and VCS. Choices were made to be non disruptive. Changing logos for the site is handled in exactly one spot. This means different names for different versions is entirely appropriate. Over this example, ooo-logo.png and AOO4_website_logo.pnghttp://svn.apache.org/viewvc/openoffice/ooo-site/trunk/content/images/AOO_logos/AOO4_website_logo.png?view=logexist. The logos differ. The names differ. If we are looking to provide a canonical path to a single current logo for third party use then that is a different question All these proliferation of logos, usually will built up to become incredibly messy to work. I suggest to put the information such as author, version, status, etc. on the comments of the commit and not on the filename. I agree that the name is long, changing it would be simple, but to what? Author is the committer and if they are representing others contribution then they can easily indicate that is so. If creating a PNG based on an SVG then include the SVG path in the comment. Likewise to take the time to look for the source of the image, since there is an SVG/ folder to link the source of them, and finally if there are different images (sizes) to have a common convention. If you would like to discuss common conventions and sizes then please create a cwiki page and start a new thread. If you want to review the images please go here: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/openoffice/ooo-site/trunk/content/images/AOO_logos/ Regards, Dave -- Alexandro Colorado Apache OpenOffice Contributor http://www.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: [L10N Download Websites] Deleting old JavaScript files that are no longer necessary
On Aug 11, 2013 6:20 PM, Marcus (OOo) marcus.m...@wtnet.de wrote: done Am 08/04/2013 04:22 PM, schrieb Marcus (OOo): Hi webmasters, I'm planning to remove old JavaScript files that are remains from older times. Furthermore they are no longer working and necessary: .../download/download_bouncer.js .../download/download_improved.js .../download/download_mirrorbrain.js .../download/download_mirrorbrain_improved.js .../download/globalvars_improved.js .../download/languages_improved.js When your language has a specific download area (like it is with http://www.openoffice.org/download/;), then make sure you don't use these files anymore. When you still use them, then I guess that the script logic is not working already since a longer time and needs to be reviewed anyway. The first step would be to use the new files: .../download/download.js .../download/globalvars.js .../download/languages.js I would like to do the removal of the old files at the end of next week. Thank you very much for your attention. +1 rgds jan i Marcus - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
[Bugzilla] Cannot set Flags
Hi all, I want to set a show-stopper flag to Bug 122997. But when I click on the link set flags the link disappears and nothing happens. I'm confused. Kind regards Regina - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Bug
On 07/08/2013 Aldo wrote: In Calc spreadsheet, on the Data menu with the standard filter the calculations give wrong results Hello Aldo, do you have or a step-by-step procedure that shows an error, or a minimal example that you can upload somewhere (this is a mailing list and no attachments are allowed)? Operations on filtered data look OK to me. Note: you are not subscribed to this mailing list and you may miss answers, follow the conversation on http://markmail.org/search/+list:org.apache.incubator.ooo-dev or subscribe as explained in http://openoffice.apache.org/mailing-lists.html#development-mailing-list-public Regards, Andrea. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Need help in translating MWiki page
Hi,
I want to translate http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Pootle_User_Guide.
But I need help to fit the translation into the overall structure.
On the left side is a category In anderen Sprachen (in other
languages). What do I have to add exactly?
There exist
Template:Lang
{{Lang|Localised Page Name}}
and
Template:OrigLang
OrigLang{{OrigLang|}}
How do I have to use them for German and where?
Kind regards
Regina
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Re: Unnecesary filestructure on images
On Sun, Aug 11, 2013 at 11:22 AM, Dave Fisher w...@apache.org wrote: Sent from my iPhone On Aug 11, 2013, at 1:35 AM, Alexandro Colorado j...@oooes.org wrote: I think the image structure on the website is a bit messy, there has been some cleanup done by kschenk but I think there is still a lot of clean up work to be done. For example, the new logo, was simply draged and drop to the AOOLogos folder with a huge name. I understand the name was needed to identify it between the rest of the competitive logos. But now that is selected, the current name is unecessary long. Apache_OpenOffice_Logo_ChrisR_selected_2013-06_optim_300w.png http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/openoffice/ooo-site/trunk/content/images/AOO_logos/Apache_OpenOffice_Logo_ChrisR_selected_2013-06_optim_300w.png?view=log At the same time we have old logos which had been untouch. I think the webdevs have small understanding of a svn is builted so that the files are updated without having different versions laying arround. This is not so. I can assure you that I completely understand SVN and VCS. Choices were made to be non disruptive. Changing logos for the site is handled in exactly one spot. This means different names for different versions is entirely appropriate. I can't imagine this 'non disruptive' happening in code as well and having different librarries with different classes and different names attached to the libraries. Like all of the sudden you have 5 ColumnControlWindow.cxx it would now be ColumnControlWindow_joes_selected_20130218.cxx attached to previous 5 different alternatives of the .cxx file. Over this example, ooo-logo.png and AOO4_website_logo.png http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/openoffice/ooo-site/trunk/content/images/AOO_logos/AOO4_website_logo.png?view=log exist. The logos differ. The names differ. The logos are outdated and obosolete, they should only exist in the revsion history, and maybe on a different archieved section with a more detailed metadata instead of cludgy filename. Something like: svn log: logo.png rev123222 AOO 4 for website selected from contest... rev123221 AOO logo 3.4.1 under apache brand rev123220 OOo Oracle branding for .. If we are looking to provide a canonical path to a single current logo for third party use then that is a different question All these proliferation of logos, usually will built up to become incredibly messy to work. I suggest to put the information such as author, version, status, etc. on the comments of the commit and not on the filename. I agree that the name is long, changing it would be simple, but to what? Is unnecesary long. K.I.S.S. PNG and SVG have metadata exactly for issues like this. Imagemagic can just do something like convert logo.png -set Title Apache OpenOffice 4 -set Author ChrisR logo.png identify -verbose logo.png |grep Title Title: Apache OpenOffice 4 http://blog.client9.com/2007/08/editing-png-metadata-from-command-line.html Author is the committer and if they are representing others contribution then they can easily indicate that is so. If creating a PNG based on an SVG then include the SVG path in the comment. Likewise to take the time to look for the source of the image, since there is an SVG/ folder to link the source of them, and finally if there are different images (sizes) to have a common convention. If you would like to discuss common conventions and sizes then please create a cwiki page and start a new thread. If you want to review the images please go here: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/openoffice/ooo-site/trunk/content/images/AOO_logos/ Regards, Dave -- Alexandro Colorado Apache OpenOffice Contributor http://www.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org -- Alexandro Colorado Apache OpenOffice Contributor http://www.openoffice.org
Re: Need help in translating MWiki page
On 11 August 2013 21:07, Regina Henschel rb.hensc...@t-online.de wrote:
Hi,
I want to translate
http://wiki.openoffice.org/**wiki/Pootle_User_Guidehttp://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Pootle_User_Guide.
But I need help to fit the translation into the overall structure.
On the left side is a category In anderen Sprachen (in other languages).
What do I have to add exactly?
There exist
Template:Lang
{{Lang|Localised Page Name}}
and
Template:OrigLang
OrigLang{{OrigLang|}}
How do I have to use them for German and where?
I cannot really answer your question, but please read the document before
you spent time translating it, I just scanned it and found errors in the
first 20 lines :-)
eg.
pls. use your OpenOffice.org account, SSO comes in the future!)
The default privileges you are granted after the account activation is for
suggestion, not submission
contact the d...@l10n.openoffice.org list
rgds
jan I.
Kind regards
Regina
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Re: Need help in translating MWiki page
Hi Jan,
janI schrieb:
On 11 August 2013 21:07, Regina Henschel rb.hensc...@t-online.de wrote:
Hi,
I want to translate
http://wiki.openoffice.org/**wiki/Pootle_User_Guidehttp://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Pootle_User_Guide.
But I need help to fit the translation into the overall structure.
On the left side is a category In anderen Sprachen (in other languages).
What do I have to add exactly?
There exist
Template:Lang
{{Lang|Localised Page Name}}
and
Template:OrigLang
OrigLang{{OrigLang|}}
How do I have to use them for German and where?
I cannot really answer your question, but please read the document before
you spent time translating it, I just scanned it and found errors in the
first 20 lines :-)
eg.
pls. use your OpenOffice.org account, SSO comes in the future!)
The default privileges you are granted after the account activation is for
suggestion, not submission
contact the d...@l10n.openoffice.org list
Yes I noticed too, that the content has to be corrected first. It seems
that only the link to Pootle has been adapted :(
We are planning a German HowTo page and therefore I thought, that it
would be best to start with an English page to make the tips available
for other languages too.
Kind regards
Regina
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Re: Need help in translating MWiki page
They are using templates, which means that the content is structured and
encapsulated into a menu of it's own. This makes it easy to sequencially go
through pages in a very unstructured wiki.
Learn more on the mediawiki documentation:
http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Templates
On Sun, Aug 11, 2013 at 2:07 PM, Regina Henschel rb.hensc...@t-online.dewrote:
Hi,
I want to translate
http://wiki.openoffice.org/**wiki/Pootle_User_Guidehttp://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Pootle_User_Guide.
But I need help to fit the translation into the overall structure.
On the left side is a category In anderen Sprachen (in other languages).
What do I have to add exactly?
There exist
Template:Lang
{{Lang|Localised Page Name}}
and
Template:OrigLang
OrigLang{{OrigLang|}}
How do I have to use them for German and where?
Kind regards
Regina
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Possibility of integration in Debian
Hello, I've had feedback from Debian. It seems he could choose Apache OpenOffice, but under certain conditions. Do you have contacts? How to help this? In advance, thank you for your reply Sylvain DENIS (Be) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Unnecesary filestructure on images
Sent from my iPhone On Aug 11, 2013, at 2:26 PM, Alexandro Colorado j...@oooes.org wrote: On Sun, Aug 11, 2013 at 11:22 AM, Dave Fisher w...@apache.org wrote: Sent from my iPhone On Aug 11, 2013, at 1:35 AM, Alexandro Colorado j...@oooes.org wrote: I think the image structure on the website is a bit messy, there has been some cleanup done by kschenk but I think there is still a lot of clean up work to be done. For example, the new logo, was simply draged and drop to the AOOLogos folder with a huge name. I understand the name was needed to identify it between the rest of the competitive logos. But now that is selected, the current name is unecessary long. Apache_OpenOffice_Logo_ChrisR_selected_2013-06_optim_300w.png http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/openoffice/ooo-site/trunk/content/images/AOO_logos/Apache_OpenOffice_Logo_ChrisR_selected_2013-06_optim_300w.png?view=log At the same time we have old logos which had been untouch. I think the webdevs have small understanding of a svn is builted so that the files are updated without having different versions laying arround. This is not so. I can assure you that I completely understand SVN and VCS. Choices were made to be non disruptive. Changing logos for the site is handled in exactly one spot. This means different names for different versions is entirely appropriate. I can't imagine this 'non disruptive' happening in code as well and having different librarries with different classes and different names attached to the libraries. Like all of the sudden you have 5 ColumnControlWindow.cxx it would now be ColumnControlWindow_joes_selected_20130218.cxx attached to previous 5 different alternatives of the .cxx file. We are discussing the website and the work that Kay and I did during the move to Apache. Remember you referred to webdevs not understanding svn. Over this example, ooo-logo.png and AOO4_website_logo.png http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/openoffice/ooo-site/trunk/content/images/AOO_logos/AOO4_website_logo.png?view=log exist. The logos differ. The names differ. The logos are outdated and obosolete, they should only exist in the revsion history, and maybe on a different archieved section with a more detailed metadata instead of cludgy filename. Something like: svn log: logo.png rev123222 AOO 4 for website selected from contest... rev123221 AOO logo 3.4.1 under apache brand rev123220 OOo Oracle branding for .. Kay has proposed and created a canonical location for logos and original art. You suggested that some standards for sizes and names be applied, we await a concrete proposal. If we are looking to provide a canonical path to a single current logo for third party use then that is a different question All these proliferation of logos, usually will built up to become incredibly messy to work. I suggest to put the information such as author, version, status, etc. on the comments of the commit and not on the filename. I agree that the name is long, changing it would be simple, but to what? Is unnecesary long. K.I.S.S. PNG and SVG have metadata exactly for issues like this. Imagemagic can just do something like convert logo.png -set Title Apache OpenOffice 4 -set Author ChrisR logo.png identify -verbose logo.png |grep Title Title: Apache OpenOffice 4 http://blog.client9.com/2007/08/editing-png-metadata-from-command-line.html Add it to a list of proposed actions to be discussed. The cwiki is provided for this purpose. I don't disagree, but it is absolutely necessary to proceed in an open manner. Regards, Dave Author is the committer and if they are representing others contribution then they can easily indicate that is so. If creating a PNG based on an SVG then include the SVG path in the comment. Likewise to take the time to look for the source of the image, since there is an SVG/ folder to link the source of them, and finally if there are different images (sizes) to have a common convention. If you would like to discuss common conventions and sizes then please create a cwiki page and start a new thread. If you want to review the images please go here: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/openoffice/ooo-site/trunk/content/images/AOO_logos/ Regards, Dave -- Alexandro Colorado Apache OpenOffice Contributor http://www.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org -- Alexandro Colorado Apache OpenOffice Contributor http://www.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Websites headers (forum, wiki, main site, ...)
There is also other sites like extensions, www and openoffice.apache.org, blog, templates. We have a new logo, which means the sites need to be updated. Since AOO hasn't really mature to the old OOo days where there was a dedicated webdev project to handle all sites, is clear there needs to be some initiative from somewhere to perform this mantainance. So the status is: blog, www, extensions and o...@apache.org have the new logo templates, forum, wiki, forum index still on the old logo or don't have the previous logo at all. I develop an incremental adaptation of the logo to perform a similar font to the new logo which uses Sans Pro. But kept the 3 gulls artwork. Andrea recomended to replace the 3 gulls with the orb. An issue has been put in place on bugzilla #122998 with all the samples and sources. On Sun, Aug 11, 2013 at 2:52 PM, Hagar Delest hagar.del...@laposte.netwrote: The question was raised in another thread but better have a dedicated one. What is the status with the headers exactly? A user will certainly visit 3 areas first: the main site, then the wiki and the forum. Today they have 3 different headers. As pointed out by Andrea, we need a consistent branding to give users a kind of security feeling. I've made a dedicated topic in the forum showing the 3 current headers and a proposal I've made very quickly: http://forum.openoffice.org/** en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=50t=**63523http://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=50t=63523 No need to register to see it so have a look. The point is: we should have the same branding (icon + text) at least for every areas, at the same location. Hagar --**--**- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@openoffice.**apache.orgdev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org -- Alexandro Colorado Apache OpenOffice Contributor http://www.openoffice.org
Re: [Website]
Hi, you wrote to a public mailing list that is used in English language. Unfortunately, I don't understand any French. If you need help with OpenOffice please refer to our user forums here: http://forum.openoffice.org/ Thanks for your understanding. Marcus Am 08/09/2013 10:52 PM, schrieb ferragne ghislaine: BOnjour Je viens de mettre à jour open office 4 par contre depuis, je n 'arrive pas à faire des comptes, pourtant tout le reste fonctionne à merveille J 'y arrivais très bien avec la version précédente et ce, depuis de nombreuses années et avec plusieurs logiciels differents. Merci de bien vouloir me dire si j 'ai mal fait la mise à jour, Merci par avance G. Ferragne - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: [Website]
Hi, you wrote to a public mailing list that is used in English language. Unfortunately, I don't understand any French. If you need help with OpenOffice please refer to our user forums here: http://forum.openoffice.org/ Thanks for your understanding. Marcus Am 08/09/2013 11:43 PM, schrieb ferragne ghislaine: Bonsoir merci de bien vouloir m ' expliquer pourquoi le total ne s 'affiche pas dans ma celllule comme indiqué dans le PDF Cordialement G. Ferragne - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Unnecesary filestructure on images
On Sun, Aug 11, 2013 at 2:58 PM, Dave Fisher w...@apache.org wrote: Sent from my iPhone On Aug 11, 2013, at 2:26 PM, Alexandro Colorado j...@oooes.org wrote: On Sun, Aug 11, 2013 at 11:22 AM, Dave Fisher w...@apache.org wrote: Sent from my iPhone On Aug 11, 2013, at 1:35 AM, Alexandro Colorado j...@oooes.org wrote: I think the image structure on the website is a bit messy, there has been some cleanup done by kschenk but I think there is still a lot of clean up work to be done. For example, the new logo, was simply draged and drop to the AOOLogos folder with a huge name. I understand the name was needed to identify it between the rest of the competitive logos. But now that is selected, the current name is unecessary long. Apache_OpenOffice_Logo_ChrisR_selected_2013-06_optim_300w.png http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/openoffice/ooo-site/trunk/content/images/AOO_logos/Apache_OpenOffice_Logo_ChrisR_selected_2013-06_optim_300w.png?view=log At the same time we have old logos which had been untouch. I think the webdevs have small understanding of a svn is builted so that the files are updated without having different versions laying arround. This is not so. I can assure you that I completely understand SVN and VCS. Choices were made to be non disruptive. Changing logos for the site is handled in exactly one spot. This means different names for different versions is entirely appropriate. I can't imagine this 'non disruptive' happening in code as well and having different librarries with different classes and different names attached to the libraries. Like all of the sudden you have 5 ColumnControlWindow.cxx it would now be ColumnControlWindow_joes_selected_20130218.cxx attached to previous 5 different alternatives of the .cxx file. We are discussing the website and the work that Kay and I did during the move to Apache. Remember you referred to webdevs not understanding svn. Ok I understand how this came to be now, and I can see the point on legacy files. However this practice would eventually need some reorganization. Hopefully this reorganization is today. Over this example, ooo-logo.png and AOO4_website_logo.png http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/openoffice/ooo-site/trunk/content/images/AOO_logos/AOO4_website_logo.png?view=log exist. The logos differ. The names differ. The logos are outdated and obosolete, they should only exist in the revsion history, and maybe on a different archieved section with a more detailed metadata instead of cludgy filename. Something like: svn log: logo.png rev123222 AOO 4 for website selected from contest... rev123221 AOO logo 3.4.1 under apache brand rev123220 OOo Oracle branding for .. Kay has proposed and created a canonical location for logos and original art. You suggested that some standards for sizes and names be applied, we await a concrete proposal. There are two different locations for the logos at the moment afaik, $root/images/ and $root/marketing/art/galleries/logos/aoo-working/ The second one is for art-related activities, and I can see how handling multiple work would make use of a large file name. For the first one, which are webdev related, I don't see the benefit of holding such filenames or even multiple filenames. So yes, a cannonical location and standarized convention for the different rasterize images as well as a clear distinction to the source file. for unknown reasons, I am unable to access cwiki, getting a permission error to even see my own profile in confluence. I dont see a component for infra on bugzilla, should it go on Jira? If we are looking to provide a canonical path to a single current logo for third party use then that is a different question All these proliferation of logos, usually will built up to become incredibly messy to work. I suggest to put the information such as author, version, status, etc. on the comments of the commit and not on the filename. I agree that the name is long, changing it would be simple, but to what? Is unnecesary long. K.I.S.S. PNG and SVG have metadata exactly for issues like this. Imagemagic can just do something like convert logo.png -set Title Apache OpenOffice 4 -set Author ChrisR logo.png identify -verbose logo.png |grep Title Title: Apache OpenOffice 4 http://blog.client9.com/2007/08/editing-png-metadata-from-command-line.html Add it to a list of proposed actions to be discussed. The cwiki is provided for this purpose. I don't disagree, but it is absolutely necessary to proceed in an open manner. Regards, Dave Author is the committer and if they are representing others contribution then they can easily indicate that is so. If creating a PNG based on an SVG then include the SVG path in the comment. Likewise to take the time to look for the
Re: Need help in translating MWiki page
Regina Henschel wrote: We are planning a German HowTo page and therefore I thought, that it would be best to start with an English page to make the tips available for other languages too. Sure, this would be best. Source that can be consolidated there (and then redirected/removed) are: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/I%27m+a+new+Volunteer%2C+I+want+to+help! http://openoffice.apache.org/translate.html (tips for translators) http://markmail.org/message/wmgezxw6trotrksy (mandatory mnemonics) http://markmail.org/message/rk3brsoesvnolfwl (example of a typical answer; a couple of links must be fixed/adapted). Regards, Andrea. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Need help in translating MWiki page
For a Mediawiki installation I'd suggest the Translate Extension to
handle multilingual contents:
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Translate
It's really convenient for us, translators, and really easy to use for
not-so-technical people; but, in exchange, it needs some tweaking in
original pages.
Regards
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On Sun, Aug 11, 2013 at 10:08 PM, janI j...@apache.org wrote:
On 11 August 2013 21:52, Regina Henschel rb.hensc...@t-online.de wrote:
Hi Jan,
janI schrieb:
On 11 August 2013 21:07, Regina Henschel rb.hensc...@t-online.de wrote:
Hi,
I want to translate http://wiki.openoffice.org/
wiki/Pootle_User_Guidehttp://wiki.openoffice.org/**wiki/Pootle_User_Guide
http://**wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/**Pootle_User_Guidehttp://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Pootle_User_Guide
.
But I need help to fit the translation into the overall structure.
On the left side is a category In anderen Sprachen (in other
languages).
What do I have to add exactly?
There exist
Template:Lang
{{Lang|Localised Page Name}}
and
Template:OrigLang
OrigLang{{OrigLang|}}
How do I have to use them for German and where?
I cannot really answer your question, but please read the document before
you spent time translating it, I just scanned it and found errors in the
first 20 lines :-)
eg.
pls. use your OpenOffice.org account, SSO comes in the future!)
The default privileges you are granted after the account activation is
for
suggestion, not submission
contact the d...@l10n.openoffice.org list
Yes I noticed too, that the content has to be corrected first. It seems
that only the link to Pootle has been adapted :(
We are planning a German HowTo page and therefore I thought, that it would
be best to start with an English page to make the tips available for other
languages too.
It would be nice to have an updated English HowTo, that can then be
translated to our other languages. But of course if the german one becomes
available first it can be translated to English.
If you want, I can offer to review the HowTo from a technical pootle
standpoint.
rgds
jan I.
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Regina
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Re: Need help in translating MWiki page
On 11 August 2013 22:55, Xuacu xuacu...@gmail.com wrote:
For a Mediawiki installation I'd suggest the Translate Extension to
handle multilingual contents:
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Translate
It's really convenient for us, translators, and really easy to use for
not-so-technical people; but, in exchange, it needs some tweaking in
original pages.
please make a BZ issue, and assign it to me. I am busy with forum right
now, but I will have a look when I get some spare time, hence the BZ.
rgds
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On Sun, Aug 11, 2013 at 10:08 PM, janI j...@apache.org wrote:
On 11 August 2013 21:52, Regina Henschel rb.hensc...@t-online.de
wrote:
Hi Jan,
janI schrieb:
On 11 August 2013 21:07, Regina Henschel rb.hensc...@t-online.de
wrote:
Hi,
I want to translate http://wiki.openoffice.org/
wiki/Pootle_User_Guide
http://wiki.openoffice.org/**wiki/Pootle_User_Guide
http://**wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/**Pootle_User_Guide
http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Pootle_User_Guide
.
But I need help to fit the translation into the overall structure.
On the left side is a category In anderen Sprachen (in other
languages).
What do I have to add exactly?
There exist
Template:Lang
{{Lang|Localised Page Name}}
and
Template:OrigLang
OrigLang{{OrigLang|}}
How do I have to use them for German and where?
I cannot really answer your question, but please read the document
before
you spent time translating it, I just scanned it and found errors in
the
first 20 lines :-)
eg.
pls. use your OpenOffice.org account, SSO comes in the future!)
The default privileges you are granted after the account activation is
for
suggestion, not submission
contact the d...@l10n.openoffice.org list
Yes I noticed too, that the content has to be corrected first. It seems
that only the link to Pootle has been adapted :(
We are planning a German HowTo page and therefore I thought, that it
would
be best to start with an English page to make the tips available for
other
languages too.
It would be nice to have an updated English HowTo, that can then be
translated to our other languages. But of course if the german one
becomes
available first it can be translated to English.
If you want, I can offer to review the HowTo from a technical pootle
standpoint.
rgds
jan I.
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Re: Websites headers (forum, wiki, main site, ...)
Sent from my iPhone On Aug 11, 2013, at 3:54 PM, Alexandro Colorado j...@oooes.org wrote: On Sun, Aug 11, 2013 at 3:16 PM, Dave Fisher w...@apache.org wrote: Sent from my iPhone On Aug 11, 2013, at 3:04 PM, Alexandro Colorado j...@oooes.org wrote: There is also other sites like extensions, www and openoffice.apache.org , blog, templates. We have a new logo, which means the sites need to be updated. Since AOO hasn't really mature to the old OOo days where there was a dedicated webdev project to handle all sites, is clear there needs to be some initiative from somewhere to perform this mantainance. So the status is: blog, www, extensions and o...@apache.org have the new logo templates, forum, wiki, forum index still on the old logo or don't have the previous logo at all. I develop an incremental adaptation of the logo to perform a similar font to the new logo which uses Sans Pro. But kept the 3 gulls artwork. Andrea recomended to replace the 3 gulls with the orb. Why would you change the font? And what did you change it too? https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=122998#c0 The bugzilla does not answer my question. You used two fonts what are they and what is the license? IIRC open sans is Apache licensed. Why change? An issue has been put in place on bugzilla #122998 with all the samples and sources. On Sun, Aug 11, 2013 at 2:52 PM, Hagar Delest hagar.del...@laposte.net wrote: The question was raised in another thread but better have a dedicated one. What is the status with the headers exactly? A user will certainly visit 3 areas first: the main site, then the wiki and the forum. Today they have 3 different headers. As pointed out by Andrea, we need a consistent branding to give users a kind of security feeling. I've made a dedicated topic in the forum showing the 3 current headers and a proposal I've made very quickly: http://forum.openoffice.org/** en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=50t=**63523 http://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=50t=63523 No need to register to see it so have a look. The point is: we should have the same branding (icon + text) at least for every areas, at the same location. Hagar --**--**- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@openoffice.**apache.org dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org -- Alexandro Colorado Apache OpenOffice Contributor http://www.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org -- Alexandro Colorado Apache OpenOffice Contributor http://www.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Unnecesary filestructure on images
Sent from my iPhone On Aug 11, 2013, at 3:52 PM, Alexandro Colorado j...@oooes.org wrote: On Sun, Aug 11, 2013 at 2:58 PM, Dave Fisher w...@apache.org wrote: Sent from my iPhone On Aug 11, 2013, at 2:26 PM, Alexandro Colorado j...@oooes.org wrote: On Sun, Aug 11, 2013 at 11:22 AM, Dave Fisher w...@apache.org wrote: Sent from my iPhone On Aug 11, 2013, at 1:35 AM, Alexandro Colorado j...@oooes.org wrote: I think the image structure on the website is a bit messy, there has been some cleanup done by kschenk but I think there is still a lot of clean up work to be done. For example, the new logo, was simply draged and drop to the AOOLogos folder with a huge name. I understand the name was needed to identify it between the rest of the competitive logos. But now that is selected, the current name is unecessary long. Apache_OpenOffice_Logo_ChrisR_selected_2013-06_optim_300w.png http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/openoffice/ooo-site/trunk/content/images/AOO_logos/Apache_OpenOffice_Logo_ChrisR_selected_2013-06_optim_300w.png?view=log At the same time we have old logos which had been untouch. I think the webdevs have small understanding of a svn is builted so that the files are updated without having different versions laying arround. This is not so. I can assure you that I completely understand SVN and VCS. Choices were made to be non disruptive. Changing logos for the site is handled in exactly one spot. This means different names for different versions is entirely appropriate. I can't imagine this 'non disruptive' happening in code as well and having different librarries with different classes and different names attached to the libraries. Like all of the sudden you have 5 ColumnControlWindow.cxx it would now be ColumnControlWindow_joes_selected_20130218.cxx attached to previous 5 different alternatives of the .cxx file. We are discussing the website and the work that Kay and I did during the move to Apache. Remember you referred to webdevs not understanding svn. Ok I understand how this came to be now, and I can see the point on legacy files. However this practice would eventually need some reorganization. Hopefully this reorganization is today. Over this example, ooo-logo.png and AOO4_website_logo.png http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/openoffice/ooo-site/trunk/content/images/AOO_logos/AOO4_website_logo.png?view=log exist. The logos differ. The names differ. The logos are outdated and obosolete, they should only exist in the revsion history, and maybe on a different archieved section with a more detailed metadata instead of cludgy filename. Something like: svn log: logo.png rev123222 AOO 4 for website selected from contest... rev123221 AOO logo 3.4.1 under apache brand rev123220 OOo Oracle branding for .. Kay has proposed and created a canonical location for logos and original art. You suggested that some standards for sizes and names be applied, we await a concrete proposal. There are two different locations for the logos at the moment afaik, $root/images/ and $root/marketing/art/galleries/logos/aoo-working/ The second one is for art-related activities, and I can see how handling multiple work would make use of a large file name. For the first one, which are webdev related, I don't see the benefit of holding such filenames or even multiple filenames. So yes, a cannonical location and standarized convention for the different rasterize images as well as a clear distinction to the source file. for unknown reasons, I am unable to access cwiki, getting a permission error to even see my own profile in confluence. I dont see a component for infra on bugzilla, should it go on Jira? There may be a Apache infra wiki upgrade in progress. I'm traveling and will check later. Or you can on irc. Regards, Dave If we are looking to provide a canonical path to a single current logo for third party use then that is a different question All these proliferation of logos, usually will built up to become incredibly messy to work. I suggest to put the information such as author, version, status, etc. on the comments of the commit and not on the filename. I agree that the name is long, changing it would be simple, but to what? Is unnecesary long. K.I.S.S. PNG and SVG have metadata exactly for issues like this. Imagemagic can just do something like convert logo.png -set Title Apache OpenOffice 4 -set Author ChrisR logo.png identify -verbose logo.png |grep Title Title: Apache OpenOffice 4 http://blog.client9.com/2007/08/editing-png-metadata-from-command-line.html Add it to a list of proposed actions to be discussed. The cwiki is provided for this purpose. I don't disagree, but it is absolutely necessary to proceed in an open manner. Regards, Dave Author is the committer and if they are representing
Re: Websites headers (forum, wiki, main site, ...)
2013/8/11 Alexandro Colorado j...@oooes.org On Sun, Aug 11, 2013 at 4:22 PM, Dave Fisher w...@apache.org wrote: Sent from my iPhone On Aug 11, 2013, at 3:54 PM, Alexandro Colorado j...@oooes.org wrote: On Sun, Aug 11, 2013 at 3:16 PM, Dave Fisher w...@apache.org wrote: Sent from my iPhone On Aug 11, 2013, at 3:04 PM, Alexandro Colorado j...@oooes.org wrote: There is also other sites like extensions, www and openoffice.apache.org , blog, templates. We have a new logo, which means the sites need to be updated. Since AOO hasn't really mature to the old OOo days where there was a dedicated webdev project to handle all sites, is clear there needs to be some initiative from somewhere to perform this mantainance. So the status is: blog, www, extensions and o...@apache.org have the new logo templates, forum, wiki, forum index still on the old logo or don't have the previous logo at all. I develop an incremental adaptation of the logo to perform a similar font to the new logo which uses Sans Pro. But kept the 3 gulls artwork. Andrea recomended to replace the 3 gulls with the orb. Why would you change the font? And what did you change it too? https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=122998#c0 The bugzilla does not answer my question. You used two fonts what are they and what is the license? IIRC open sans is Apache licensed. Why change? I think you missread, they were change into Sans Pro. Please look at the source SVG for 1 to 1 comparison from legacy to new one based on the current AOO Logo. Adobe's Source Sans Pro font is OLF licensed while, as Dave said, open sans is Apache Licensed. IMO, if you changed from open sans to source sans pro then Dave's question is perfectly valid. Regard Ricardo An issue has been put in place on bugzilla #122998 with all the samples and sources. On Sun, Aug 11, 2013 at 2:52 PM, Hagar Delest hagar.del...@laposte.net wrote: The question was raised in another thread but better have a dedicated one. What is the status with the headers exactly? A user will certainly visit 3 areas first: the main site, then the wiki and the forum. Today they have 3 different headers. As pointed out by Andrea, we need a consistent branding to give users a kind of security feeling. I've made a dedicated topic in the forum showing the 3 current headers and a proposal I've made very quickly: http://forum.openoffice.org/** en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=50t=**63523 http://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=50t=63523 No need to register to see it so have a look. The point is: we should have the same branding (icon + text) at least for every areas, at the same location. Hagar --**--**- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@openoffice.**apache.org dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org -- Alexandro Colorado Apache OpenOffice Contributor http://www.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org -- Alexandro Colorado Apache OpenOffice Contributor http://www.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org -- Alexandro Colorado Apache OpenOffice Contributor http://www.openoffice.org
Re: Websites headers (forum, wiki, main site, ...)
On Sun, Aug 11, 2013 at 5:13 PM, Ricardo Berlasso rgb.m...@gmail.comwrote: 2013/8/11 Alexandro Colorado j...@oooes.org On Sun, Aug 11, 2013 at 4:22 PM, Dave Fisher w...@apache.org wrote: Sent from my iPhone On Aug 11, 2013, at 3:54 PM, Alexandro Colorado j...@oooes.org wrote: On Sun, Aug 11, 2013 at 3:16 PM, Dave Fisher w...@apache.org wrote: Sent from my iPhone On Aug 11, 2013, at 3:04 PM, Alexandro Colorado j...@oooes.org wrote: There is also other sites like extensions, www and openoffice.apache.org , blog, templates. We have a new logo, which means the sites need to be updated. Since AOO hasn't really mature to the old OOo days where there was a dedicated webdev project to handle all sites, is clear there needs to be some initiative from somewhere to perform this mantainance. So the status is: blog, www, extensions and o...@apache.org have the new logo templates, forum, wiki, forum index still on the old logo or don't have the previous logo at all. I develop an incremental adaptation of the logo to perform a similar font to the new logo which uses Sans Pro. But kept the 3 gulls artwork. Andrea recomended to replace the 3 gulls with the orb. Why would you change the font? And what did you change it too? https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=122998#c0 The bugzilla does not answer my question. You used two fonts what are they and what is the license? IIRC open sans is Apache licensed. Why change? I think you missread, they were change into Sans Pro. Please look at the source SVG for 1 to 1 comparison from legacy to new one based on the current AOO Logo. Adobe's Source Sans Pro font is OLF licensed while, as Dave said, open sans is Apache Licensed. IMO, if you changed from open sans to source sans pro then Dave's question is perfectly valid. The comment on the issue wasn't about the license status but compliancy with the new log between AOO sites. The new logo uses Source Sans Pro which is on www, blog, ooo.apache, and will soon be on the rest of the sites. Like I pointed on the bugzilla comment it was an incemental modification to get it closer to branding guidelines. Regard Ricardo An issue has been put in place on bugzilla #122998 with all the samples and sources. On Sun, Aug 11, 2013 at 2:52 PM, Hagar Delest hagar.del...@laposte.net wrote: The question was raised in another thread but better have a dedicated one. What is the status with the headers exactly? A user will certainly visit 3 areas first: the main site, then the wiki and the forum. Today they have 3 different headers. As pointed out by Andrea, we need a consistent branding to give users a kind of security feeling. I've made a dedicated topic in the forum showing the 3 current headers and a proposal I've made very quickly: http://forum.openoffice.org/** en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=50t=**63523 http://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=50t=63523 No need to register to see it so have a look. The point is: we should have the same branding (icon + text) at least for every areas, at the same location. Hagar --**--**- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@openoffice.**apache.org dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org -- Alexandro Colorado Apache OpenOffice Contributor http://www.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org -- Alexandro Colorado Apache OpenOffice Contributor http://www.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org -- Alexandro Colorado Apache OpenOffice Contributor http://www.openoffice.org -- Alexandro Colorado Apache OpenOffice Contributor http://www.openoffice.org
Weird para at Zotero site
*Though I am not personally all that active.. * I think AOO is extremely actively under development. * Apache OpenOffice 4 users:* Zotero does not currently support Apache OpenOffice 4. While a future release may include support for Apache OpenOffice 4, we encourage you to switch to LibreOfficehttp://www.libreoffice.org/download, which is based on the same codebase but is more actively developed. http://www.zotero.org/support/word_processor_plugin_installation Grrr! Wolf Halton -- This Apt Has Super Cow Powers - http://sourcefreedom.com Security in the Cloud - http://AtlantaCloudTech.comhttp://atlantaCloudTech.com Apache Developer wolfhal...@apache.org
Re: Weird para at Zotero site
This seems a bit full of memes. Which is also a big hurdle on our lack of marketing to bring users back into the active state of Apache OpenOffice. On Sun, Aug 11, 2013 at 5:37 PM, Wolf Halton wolf.hal...@gmail.com wrote: *Though I am not personally all that active.. * I think AOO is extremely actively under development. * Apache OpenOffice 4 users:* Zotero does not currently support Apache OpenOffice 4. While a future release may include support for Apache OpenOffice 4, we encourage you to switch to LibreOfficehttp://www.libreoffice.org/download, which is based on the same codebase but is more actively developed. http://www.zotero.org/support/word_processor_plugin_installation Grrr! Wolf Halton -- This Apt Has Super Cow Powers - http://sourcefreedom.com Security in the Cloud - http://AtlantaCloudTech.com http://atlantaCloudTech.com Apache Developer wolfhal...@apache.org -- Alexandro Colorado Apache OpenOffice Contributor http://www.openoffice.org
Re: Websites headers (forum, wiki, main site, ...)
On Sun, Aug 11, 2013 at 6:13 PM, Ricardo Berlasso rgb.m...@gmail.com wrote: 2013/8/11 Alexandro Colorado j...@oooes.org On Sun, Aug 11, 2013 at 4:22 PM, Dave Fisher w...@apache.org wrote: Sent from my iPhone On Aug 11, 2013, at 3:54 PM, Alexandro Colorado j...@oooes.org wrote: On Sun, Aug 11, 2013 at 3:16 PM, Dave Fisher w...@apache.org wrote: Sent from my iPhone On Aug 11, 2013, at 3:04 PM, Alexandro Colorado j...@oooes.org wrote: There is also other sites like extensions, www and openoffice.apache.org , blog, templates. We have a new logo, which means the sites need to be updated. Since AOO hasn't really mature to the old OOo days where there was a dedicated webdev project to handle all sites, is clear there needs to be some initiative from somewhere to perform this mantainance. So the status is: blog, www, extensions and o...@apache.org have the new logo templates, forum, wiki, forum index still on the old logo or don't have the previous logo at all. I develop an incremental adaptation of the logo to perform a similar font to the new logo which uses Sans Pro. But kept the 3 gulls artwork. Andrea recomended to replace the 3 gulls with the orb. Why would you change the font? And what did you change it too? https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=122998#c0 The bugzilla does not answer my question. You used two fonts what are they and what is the license? IIRC open sans is Apache licensed. Why change? I think you missread, they were change into Sans Pro. Please look at the source SVG for 1 to 1 comparison from legacy to new one based on the current AOO Logo. Adobe's Source Sans Pro font is OLF licensed while, as Dave said, open sans is Apache Licensed. IMO, if you changed from open sans to source sans pro then Dave's question is perfectly valid. So we're all on the same page: the AOO 4.0 Logo uses Source Sans Pro. This must not be changed without discussion and PMC approval. If the idea is to update the old forum/wiki headers to use Source Sans Pro and new logo elements, then this sounds like the right direction. -Rob Regard Ricardo An issue has been put in place on bugzilla #122998 with all the samples and sources. On Sun, Aug 11, 2013 at 2:52 PM, Hagar Delest hagar.del...@laposte.net wrote: The question was raised in another thread but better have a dedicated one. What is the status with the headers exactly? A user will certainly visit 3 areas first: the main site, then the wiki and the forum. Today they have 3 different headers. As pointed out by Andrea, we need a consistent branding to give users a kind of security feeling. I've made a dedicated topic in the forum showing the 3 current headers and a proposal I've made very quickly: http://forum.openoffice.org/** en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=50t=**63523 http://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=50t=63523 No need to register to see it so have a look. The point is: we should have the same branding (icon + text) at least for every areas, at the same location. Hagar --**--**- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@openoffice.**apache.org dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org -- Alexandro Colorado Apache OpenOffice Contributor http://www.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org -- Alexandro Colorado Apache OpenOffice Contributor http://www.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org -- Alexandro Colorado Apache OpenOffice Contributor http://www.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Weird para at Zotero site
On Sun, Aug 11, 2013 at 6:07 PM, Dan Stillman dstill...@zotero.org wrote: Nothing to do with memes or marketing. https://forums.zotero.org/discussion/30885/openoffice-400-no-zotero-toolbar/ So acording to this forum, is because of Apache OpenOffice active development as opposed to innactive development that Zotero plugin can't work. We have been documenting the changes and docs for extension mantainers http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Extensions/Extensions_and_Apache_OpenOffice_4.0 Why toolbar change? As you might know UX changes in AOO4 had an impact on the XML schema for our UI. Feel free to add support for 4.0 following these improvements. On 8/11/13 7:04 PM, Alexandro Colorado wrote: This seems a bit full of memes. Which is also a big hurdle on our lack of marketing to bring users back into the active state of Apache OpenOffice. On Sun, Aug 11, 2013 at 5:37 PM, Wolf Halton wolf.hal...@gmail.comwrote: *Though I am not personally all that active.. * I think AOO is extremely actively under development. * Apache OpenOffice 4 users:* Zotero does not currently support Apache OpenOffice 4. While a future release may include support for Apache OpenOffice 4, we encourage you to switch to LibreOfficehttp://www.libreoffice.org/download, which is based on the same codebase but is more actively developed. http://www.zotero.org/support/word_processor_plugin_installation Grrr! Wolf Halton -- This Apt Has Super Cow Powers - http://sourcefreedom.com Security in the Cloud - http://AtlantaCloudTech.com http://atlantaCloudTech.com Apache Developer wolfhal...@apache.org -- Alexandro Colorado Apache OpenOffice Contributor http://www.openoffice.org -- Alexandro Colorado Apache OpenOffice Contributor http://www.openoffice.org
Re: Unnecesary filestructure on images
On Sun, Aug 11, 2013 at 1:35 AM, Alexandro Colorado j...@oooes.org wrote: I think the image structure on the website is a bit messy, there has been some cleanup done by kschenk but I think there is still a lot of clean up work to be done. For example, the new logo, was simply draged and drop to the AOOLogos folder with a huge name. I understand the name was needed to identify it between the rest of the competitive logos. But now that is selected, the current name is unecessary long. Apache_OpenOffice_Logo_ChrisR_selected_2013-06_optim_300w.pnghttp://svn.apache.org/viewvc/openoffice/ooo-site/trunk/content/images/AOO_logos/Apache_OpenOffice_Logo_ChrisR_selected_2013-06_optim_300w.png?view=log Right. That work is incomplete. I checked it in originally, after the logo vote, so we could start working on the product integration immediately. But note that the above logo is not the one we actually used in AOO 4.0 !! The one we actually used is this one: https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openoffice/branding/Apache_OpenOffice_Logo_ChrisR_selected_2013-06_Inkscape_kg.svg This was Chris R's contest logo with some minor technical changes. Kevin G. used this and generated the PNG/JPG files for AOO 4.0, which I helped check in. My intent was to take that SVG and rename it to master-logo-40.svg or something clean like that. However, I have not had any luck getting this logo to load into Inkscape or Adobe Illustrator. I get errors. And I have not had any luck getting Kevin to send a version that will load. So we're stuck right now with a logo that does load into Inkscape, but is slightly different than the one we used in AOO 4.0. At the same time we have old logos which had been untouch. I think the webdevs have small understanding of a svn is builted so that the files are updated without having different versions laying arround. Over this example, ooo-logo.png and AOO4_website_logo.pnghttp://svn.apache.org/viewvc/openoffice/ooo-site/trunk/content/images/AOO_logos/AOO4_website_logo.png?view=logexist. All these proliferation of logos, usually will built up to become incredibly messy to work. I suggest to put the information such as author, version, status, etc. on the comments of the commit and not on the filename. Likewise to take the time to look for the source of the image, since there is an SVG/ folder to link the source of them, and finally if there are different images (sizes) to have a common convention. A more logical naming scheme would be good, I agree. But this has been waiting for resolution of which SVG we should actually be using. Regards, -Rob If you want to review the images please go here: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/openoffice/ooo-site/trunk/content/images/AOO_logos/ -- Alexandro Colorado Apache OpenOffice Contributor http://www.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Unnecesary filestructure on images
On Sun, Aug 11, 2013 at 6:33 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Sun, Aug 11, 2013 at 1:35 AM, Alexandro Colorado j...@oooes.org wrote: I think the image structure on the website is a bit messy, there has been some cleanup done by kschenk but I think there is still a lot of clean up work to be done. For example, the new logo, was simply draged and drop to the AOOLogos folder with a huge name. I understand the name was needed to identify it between the rest of the competitive logos. But now that is selected, the current name is unecessary long. Apache_OpenOffice_Logo_ChrisR_selected_2013-06_optim_300w.png http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/openoffice/ooo-site/trunk/content/images/AOO_logos/Apache_OpenOffice_Logo_ChrisR_selected_2013-06_optim_300w.png?view=log Right. That work is incomplete. I checked it in originally, after the logo vote, so we could start working on the product integration immediately. But note that the above logo is not the one we actually used in AOO 4.0 !! The one we actually used is this one: https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openoffice/branding/Apache_OpenOffice_Logo_ChrisR_selected_2013-06_Inkscape_kg.svg This was Chris R's contest logo with some minor technical changes. Kevin G. used this and generated the PNG/JPG files for AOO 4.0, which I helped check in. My intent was to take that SVG and rename it to master-logo-40.svg Again I think we do need a convention for a logo.svg as opposed to ending with a logo-30.svg logo-40.svg logo-50.svg. An just incrementally replace with the future logos as we update the SVG. or something clean like that. However, I have not had any luck getting this logo to load into Inkscape or Adobe Illustrator. I get errors. And I have not had any luck getting Kevin to send a version that will load. So we're stuck right now with a logo that does load into Inkscape, but is slightly different than the one we used in AOO 4.0. At the same time we have old logos which had been untouch. I think the webdevs have small understanding of a svn is builted so that the files are updated without having different versions laying arround. Over this example, ooo-logo.png and AOO4_website_logo.png http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/openoffice/ooo-site/trunk/content/images/AOO_logos/AOO4_website_logo.png?view=log exist. All these proliferation of logos, usually will built up to become incredibly messy to work. I suggest to put the information such as author, version, status, etc. on the comments of the commit and not on the filename. Likewise to take the time to look for the source of the image, since there is an SVG/ folder to link the source of them, and finally if there are different images (sizes) to have a common convention. A more logical naming scheme would be good, I agree. But this has been waiting for resolution of which SVG we should actually be using. Regards, -Rob If you want to review the images please go here: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/openoffice/ooo-site/trunk/content/images/AOO_logos/ -- Alexandro Colorado Apache OpenOffice Contributor http://www.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org -- Alexandro Colorado Apache OpenOffice Contributor http://www.openoffice.org
Re: Weird para at Zotero site
As I wrote in a previous post to openoffice-dev, this is not just about having to modify the extension, which I would be happy to do. It's also about having to modify the way we install the extension. But it's mostly that our extension will break on upgrade from AOO 3.4 to AOO 4 for 100% of our users no matter what, and the best we can do is to pop up a dialog telling the user to update or reinstall it. If we can get a promise that future updates to AOO will always allow a single extension to work with both previous and current AOO versions (even if updates to the extension are necessary to do so) then I'd feel better about supporting AOO 4. Simon On Aug 11, 2013, at 7:26 PM, Alexandro Colorado j...@oooes.org wrote: On Sun, Aug 11, 2013 at 6:07 PM, Dan Stillman dstill...@zotero.org wrote: Nothing to do with memes or marketing. https://forums.zotero.org/discussion/30885/openoffice-400-no-zotero-toolbar/ So acording to this forum, is because of Apache OpenOffice active development as opposed to innactive development that Zotero plugin can't work. We have been documenting the changes and docs for extension mantainers http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Extensions/Extensions_and_Apache_OpenOffice_4.0 Why toolbar change? As you might know UX changes in AOO4 had an impact on the XML schema for our UI. Feel free to add support for 4.0 following these improvements. On 8/11/13 7:04 PM, Alexandro Colorado wrote: This seems a bit full of memes. Which is also a big hurdle on our lack of marketing to bring users back into the active state of Apache OpenOffice. On Sun, Aug 11, 2013 at 5:37 PM, Wolf Halton wolf.hal...@gmail.com wrote: *Though I am not personally all that active.. * I think AOO is extremely actively under development. * Apache OpenOffice 4 users:* Zotero does not currently support Apache OpenOffice 4. While a future release may include support for Apache OpenOffice 4, we encourage you to switch to LibreOfficehttp://www.libreoffice.org/download, which is based on the same codebase but is more actively developed. http://www.zotero.org/support/word_processor_plugin_installation Grrr! Wolf Halton -- This Apt Has Super Cow Powers - http://sourcefreedom.com Security in the Cloud - http://AtlantaCloudTech.comhttp://atlantaCloudTech.com Apache Developer wolfhal...@apache.org -- Alexandro Colorado Apache OpenOffice Contributor http://www.openoffice.org -- Alexandro Colorado Apache OpenOffice Contributor http://www.openoffice.org
Re: Weird para at Zotero site
On Sun, Aug 11, 2013 at 7:48 PM, Simon Kornblith si...@simonster.com wrote: As I wrote in a previous post to openoffice-dev, this is not just about having to modify the extension, which I would be happy to do. It's also about having to modify the way we install the extension. But it's mostly that our extension will break on upgrade from AOO 3.4 to AOO 4 for 100% of our users no matter what, and the best we can do is to pop up a dialog telling the user to update or reinstall it. If we can get a promise that future updates to AOO will always allow a single extension to work with both previous and current AOO versions (even if updates to the extension are necessary to do so) then I'd feel better about supporting AOO 4. The goal now, as always, is to preserve compatibility within a major release series. So extensions for AOO 4.0 should be run fine on AOO 4.1, 4.2, 4.3, etc. However, at major version updates, e.g., AOO 5.0, then you can expect extensions will need to be updated. Such major version releases happen at long intervals, longer than (I assume) your regular maintenance updates in your extension itself. Regards, -Rob Simon On Aug 11, 2013, at 7:26 PM, Alexandro Colorado j...@oooes.org wrote: On Sun, Aug 11, 2013 at 6:07 PM, Dan Stillman dstill...@zotero.org wrote: Nothing to do with memes or marketing. https://forums.zotero.org/discussion/30885/openoffice-400-no-zotero-toolbar/ So acording to this forum, is because of Apache OpenOffice active development as opposed to innactive development that Zotero plugin can't work. We have been documenting the changes and docs for extension mantainers http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Extensions/Extensions_and_Apache_OpenOffice_4.0 Why toolbar change? As you might know UX changes in AOO4 had an impact on the XML schema for our UI. Feel free to add support for 4.0 following these improvements. On 8/11/13 7:04 PM, Alexandro Colorado wrote: This seems a bit full of memes. Which is also a big hurdle on our lack of marketing to bring users back into the active state of Apache OpenOffice. On Sun, Aug 11, 2013 at 5:37 PM, Wolf Halton wolf.hal...@gmail.com wrote: *Though I am not personally all that active.. * I think AOO is extremely actively under development. * Apache OpenOffice 4 users:* Zotero does not currently support Apache OpenOffice 4. While a future release may include support for Apache OpenOffice 4, we encourage you to switch to LibreOfficehttp://www.libreoffice.org/download, which is based on the same codebase but is more actively developed. http://www.zotero.org/support/word_processor_plugin_installation Grrr! Wolf Halton -- This Apt Has Super Cow Powers - http://sourcefreedom.com Security in the Cloud - http://AtlantaCloudTech.comhttp://atlantaCloudTech.com Apache Developer wolfhal...@apache.org -- Alexandro Colorado Apache OpenOffice Contributor http://www.openoffice.org -- Alexandro Colorado Apache OpenOffice Contributor http://www.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Weird para at Zotero site
On Aug 11, 2013, at 8:02 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Sun, Aug 11, 2013 at 7:48 PM, Simon Kornblith si...@simonster.com wrote: As I wrote in a previous post to openoffice-dev, this is not just about having to modify the extension, which I would be happy to do. It's also about having to modify the way we install the extension. But it's mostly that our extension will break on upgrade from AOO 3.4 to AOO 4 for 100% of our users no matter what, and the best we can do is to pop up a dialog telling the user to update or reinstall it. If we can get a promise that future updates to AOO will always allow a single extension to work with both previous and current AOO versions (even if updates to the extension are necessary to do so) then I'd feel better about supporting AOO 4. The goal now, as always, is to preserve compatibility within a major release series. So extensions for AOO 4.0 should be run fine on AOO 4.1, 4.2, 4.3, etc. However, at major version updates, e.g., AOO 5.0, then you can expect extensions will need to be updated. Such major version releases happen at long intervals, longer than (I assume) your regular maintenance updates in your extension itself. To be clear: we are happy to make changes to our extension to accommodate new AOO versions. We make frequent changes to our Firefox extension to keep up with Firefox releases, and we realize that API changes are sometimes necessary to build a stable and competitive product. What makes us unhappy is that it is impossible to build an extension that works with both AOO 3.4 and AOO 4, and there is no change that we can make to our extension that will prevent it from breaking when a user upgrades from AOO 3.4 to AOO 4. No matter what we do, our users need to install a different extension after upgrading to AOO 4 to make Zotero work again. From our standpoint, this not acceptable. It doesn't just take our time; it takes our users' and our community support's time as well, and it's unprecedented in 7 years' experience developing add-ons for Firefox, Word, and OpenOffice.org. Again, it would be fine if the extension needs changes to work with 5.0, as long as the same extension can still work with 4.x. There are a lot of ways to do this, the easiest of which is just to allow loading different versions of files for different AOO versions. Simon Regards, -Rob Simon On Aug 11, 2013, at 7:26 PM, Alexandro Colorado j...@oooes.org wrote: On Sun, Aug 11, 2013 at 6:07 PM, Dan Stillman dstill...@zotero.org wrote: Nothing to do with memes or marketing. https://forums.zotero.org/discussion/30885/openoffice-400-no-zotero-toolbar/ So acording to this forum, is because of Apache OpenOffice active development as opposed to innactive development that Zotero plugin can't work. We have been documenting the changes and docs for extension mantainers http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Extensions/Extensions_and_Apache_OpenOffice_4.0 Why toolbar change? As you might know UX changes in AOO4 had an impact on the XML schema for our UI. Feel free to add support for 4.0 following these improvements. On 8/11/13 7:04 PM, Alexandro Colorado wrote: This seems a bit full of memes. Which is also a big hurdle on our lack of marketing to bring users back into the active state of Apache OpenOffice. On Sun, Aug 11, 2013 at 5:37 PM, Wolf Halton wolf.hal...@gmail.com wrote: *Though I am not personally all that active.. * I think AOO is extremely actively under development. * Apache OpenOffice 4 users:* Zotero does not currently support Apache OpenOffice 4. While a future release may include support for Apache OpenOffice 4, we encourage you to switch to LibreOfficehttp://www.libreoffice.org/download, which is based on the same codebase but is more actively developed. http://www.zotero.org/support/word_processor_plugin_installation Grrr! Wolf Halton -- This Apt Has Super Cow Powers - http://sourcefreedom.com Security in the Cloud - http://AtlantaCloudTech.comhttp://atlantaCloudTech.com Apache Developer wolfhal...@apache.org -- Alexandro Colorado Apache OpenOffice Contributor http://www.openoffice.org -- Alexandro Colorado Apache OpenOffice Contributor http://www.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Weird para at Zotero site
On Sun, Aug 11, 2013 at 8:40 PM, Simon Kornblith si...@simonster.com wrote: On Aug 11, 2013, at 8:02 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Sun, Aug 11, 2013 at 7:48 PM, Simon Kornblith si...@simonster.com wrote: As I wrote in a previous post to openoffice-dev, this is not just about having to modify the extension, which I would be happy to do. It's also about having to modify the way we install the extension. But it's mostly that our extension will break on upgrade from AOO 3.4 to AOO 4 for 100% of our users no matter what, and the best we can do is to pop up a dialog telling the user to update or reinstall it. If we can get a promise that future updates to AOO will always allow a single extension to work with both previous and current AOO versions (even if updates to the extension are necessary to do so) then I'd feel better about supporting AOO 4. The goal now, as always, is to preserve compatibility within a major release series. So extensions for AOO 4.0 should be run fine on AOO 4.1, 4.2, 4.3, etc. However, at major version updates, e.g., AOO 5.0, then you can expect extensions will need to be updated. Such major version releases happen at long intervals, longer than (I assume) your regular maintenance updates in your extension itself. To be clear: we are happy to make changes to our extension to accommodate new AOO versions. We make frequent changes to our Firefox extension to keep up with Firefox releases, and we realize that API changes are sometimes necessary to build a stable and competitive product. What makes us unhappy is that it is impossible to build an extension that works with both AOO 3.4 and AOO 4, and there is no change that we can make to our extension that will prevent it from breaking when a user upgrades from AOO 3.4 to AOO 4. No matter what we do, our users need to install a different extension after upgrading to AOO 4 to make Zotero work again. From our standpoint, this not acceptable. It doesn't just take our time; it takes our users' and our community support's time as well, and it's unprecedented in 7 years' experience developing add-ons for Firefox, Word, and OpenOffice.org. Again, it would be fine if the extension needs changes to work with 5.0, as long as the same extension can still work with 4.x. There are a lot of ways to do this, the easiest of which is just to allow loading different versions of files for different AOO versions. It is not my role to tell you what to do. Zotero is working under the sponsorship of a non-profit organization, like we are. We're all trying to do what is best for users. We'll all working hard at what we do, trying to bring value to users. I'm not going to argue what you should do, though I am happy to answer any questions you might have about how to update your extensions. But I will say that we have had over 60 million downloads of Apache OpenOffice, making us by far the most popular open source productivity suite in use today. So if Zotero is not able to work with Apache OpenOffice, many of our mutual users will be upset. So I hope you can find someway to adapt your code. Regards, -Rob Simon Regards, -Rob Simon On Aug 11, 2013, at 7:26 PM, Alexandro Colorado j...@oooes.org wrote: On Sun, Aug 11, 2013 at 6:07 PM, Dan Stillman dstill...@zotero.org wrote: Nothing to do with memes or marketing. https://forums.zotero.org/discussion/30885/openoffice-400-no-zotero-toolbar/ So acording to this forum, is because of Apache OpenOffice active development as opposed to innactive development that Zotero plugin can't work. We have been documenting the changes and docs for extension mantainers http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Extensions/Extensions_and_Apache_OpenOffice_4.0 Why toolbar change? As you might know UX changes in AOO4 had an impact on the XML schema for our UI. Feel free to add support for 4.0 following these improvements. On 8/11/13 7:04 PM, Alexandro Colorado wrote: This seems a bit full of memes. Which is also a big hurdle on our lack of marketing to bring users back into the active state of Apache OpenOffice. On Sun, Aug 11, 2013 at 5:37 PM, Wolf Halton wolf.hal...@gmail.com wrote: *Though I am not personally all that active.. * I think AOO is extremely actively under development. * Apache OpenOffice 4 users:* Zotero does not currently support Apache OpenOffice 4. While a future release may include support for Apache OpenOffice 4, we encourage you to switch to LibreOfficehttp://www.libreoffice.org/download, which is based on the same codebase but is more actively developed. http://www.zotero.org/support/word_processor_plugin_installation Grrr! Wolf Halton -- This Apt Has Super Cow Powers - http://sourcefreedom.com Security in the Cloud - http://AtlantaCloudTech.comhttp://atlantaCloudTech.com Apache Developer wolfhal...@apache.org -- Alexandro Colorado Apache OpenOffice Contributor
Re: Need help in translating MWiki page
Hi Jan
Done: https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=123016
On Sun, Aug 11, 2013 at 11:03 PM, janI j...@apache.org wrote:
On 11 August 2013 22:55, Xuacu xuacu...@gmail.com wrote:
For a Mediawiki installation I'd suggest the Translate Extension to
handle multilingual contents:
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Translate
It's really convenient for us, translators, and really easy to use for
not-so-technical people; but, in exchange, it needs some tweaking in
original pages.
please make a BZ issue, and assign it to me. I am busy with forum right
now, but I will have a look when I get some spare time, hence the BZ.
rgds
jan I.
Regards
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On Sun, Aug 11, 2013 at 10:08 PM, janI j...@apache.org wrote:
On 11 August 2013 21:52, Regina Henschel rb.hensc...@t-online.de
wrote:
Hi Jan,
janI schrieb:
On 11 August 2013 21:07, Regina Henschel rb.hensc...@t-online.de
wrote:
Hi,
I want to translate http://wiki.openoffice.org/
wiki/Pootle_User_Guide
http://wiki.openoffice.org/**wiki/Pootle_User_Guide
http://**wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/**Pootle_User_Guide
http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Pootle_User_Guide
.
But I need help to fit the translation into the overall structure.
On the left side is a category In anderen Sprachen (in other
languages).
What do I have to add exactly?
There exist
Template:Lang
{{Lang|Localised Page Name}}
and
Template:OrigLang
OrigLang{{OrigLang|}}
How do I have to use them for German and where?
I cannot really answer your question, but please read the document
before
you spent time translating it, I just scanned it and found errors in
the
first 20 lines :-)
eg.
pls. use your OpenOffice.org account, SSO comes in the future!)
The default privileges you are granted after the account activation is
for
suggestion, not submission
contact the d...@l10n.openoffice.org list
Yes I noticed too, that the content has to be corrected first. It seems
that only the link to Pootle has been adapted :(
We are planning a German HowTo page and therefore I thought, that it
would
be best to start with an English page to make the tips available for
other
languages too.
It would be nice to have an updated English HowTo, that can then be
translated to our other languages. But of course if the german one
becomes
available first it can be translated to English.
If you want, I can offer to review the HowTo from a technical pootle
standpoint.
rgds
jan I.
Kind regards
Regina
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Re: Weird para at Zotero site
On Aug 11, 2013, at 8:51 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Sun, Aug 11, 2013 at 8:40 PM, Simon Kornblith si...@simonster.com wrote: On Aug 11, 2013, at 8:02 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Sun, Aug 11, 2013 at 7:48 PM, Simon Kornblith si...@simonster.com wrote: As I wrote in a previous post to openoffice-dev, this is not just about having to modify the extension, which I would be happy to do. It's also about having to modify the way we install the extension. But it's mostly that our extension will break on upgrade from AOO 3.4 to AOO 4 for 100% of our users no matter what, and the best we can do is to pop up a dialog telling the user to update or reinstall it. If we can get a promise that future updates to AOO will always allow a single extension to work with both previous and current AOO versions (even if updates to the extension are necessary to do so) then I'd feel better about supporting AOO 4. The goal now, as always, is to preserve compatibility within a major release series. So extensions for AOO 4.0 should be run fine on AOO 4.1, 4.2, 4.3, etc. However, at major version updates, e.g., AOO 5.0, then you can expect extensions will need to be updated. Such major version releases happen at long intervals, longer than (I assume) your regular maintenance updates in your extension itself. To be clear: we are happy to make changes to our extension to accommodate new AOO versions. We make frequent changes to our Firefox extension to keep up with Firefox releases, and we realize that API changes are sometimes necessary to build a stable and competitive product. What makes us unhappy is that it is impossible to build an extension that works with both AOO 3.4 and AOO 4, and there is no change that we can make to our extension that will prevent it from breaking when a user upgrades from AOO 3.4 to AOO 4. No matter what we do, our users need to install a different extension after upgrading to AOO 4 to make Zotero work again. From our standpoint, this not acceptable. It doesn't just take our time; it takes our users' and our community support's time as well, and it's unprecedented in 7 years' experience developing add-ons for Firefox, Word, and OpenOffice.org. Again, it would be fine if the extension needs changes to work with 5.0, as long as the same extension can still work with 4.x. There are a lot of ways to do this, the easiest of which is just to allow loading different versions of files for different AOO versions. It is not my role to tell you what to do. Zotero is working under the sponsorship of a non-profit organization, like we are. We're all trying to do what is best for users. We'll all working hard at what we do, trying to bring value to users. I'm not going to argue what you should do, though I am happy to answer any questions you might have about how to update your extensions. Well, my basic question is: How can I build an extension that works after upgrading from AOO 3.4 to 4.0 without requiring intervention on the part of the user? I have the feeling that there must be a way to do this, either by creating a toolbar dynamically instead of using Addons.xcu or by making the extension modify itself after the upgrade is complete, but it's beyond my knowledge of the AOO API. Auto-update is not an option, since we need to ensure that the the extension installed in AOO matches the installed version of Zotero, and in any case most of our users won't notice the Updates for extensions are available bubble or understand its relationship to Zotero. It would also be useful to know the best practice for determining the version of AOO that is installed, assuming we know the path to the AOO directory. Simon
Re: Need help in translating MWiki page
thx will solve it later.
rgds
jan i
On Aug 12, 2013 3:20 AM, Xuacu xuacu...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Jan
Done: https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=123016
On Sun, Aug 11, 2013 at 11:03 PM, janI j...@apache.org wrote:
On 11 August 2013 22:55, Xuacu xuacu...@gmail.com wrote:
For a Mediawiki installation I'd suggest the Translate Extension to
handle multilingual contents:
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Translate
It's really convenient for us, translators, and really easy to use for
not-so-technical people; but, in exchange, it needs some tweaking in
original pages.
please make a BZ issue, and assign it to me. I am busy with forum right
now, but I will have a look when I get some spare time, hence the BZ.
rgds
jan I.
Regards
--
Xuacu
On Sun, Aug 11, 2013 at 10:08 PM, janI j...@apache.org wrote:
On 11 August 2013 21:52, Regina Henschel rb.hensc...@t-online.de
wrote:
Hi Jan,
janI schrieb:
On 11 August 2013 21:07, Regina Henschel rb.hensc...@t-online.de
wrote:
Hi,
I want to translate http://wiki.openoffice.org/
wiki/Pootle_User_Guide
http://wiki.openoffice.org/**wiki/Pootle_User_Guide
http://**wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/**Pootle_User_Guide
http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Pootle_User_Guide
.
But I need help to fit the translation into the overall structure.
On the left side is a category In anderen Sprachen (in other
languages).
What do I have to add exactly?
There exist
Template:Lang
{{Lang|Localised Page Name}}
and
Template:OrigLang
OrigLang{{OrigLang|}}
How do I have to use them for German and where?
I cannot really answer your question, but please read the document
before
you spent time translating it, I just scanned it and found errors in
the
first 20 lines :-)
eg.
pls. use your OpenOffice.org account, SSO comes in the future!)
The default privileges you are granted after the account
activation is
for
suggestion, not submission
contact the d...@l10n.openoffice.org list
Yes I noticed too, that the content has to be corrected first. It
seems
that only the link to Pootle has been adapted :(
We are planning a German HowTo page and therefore I thought, that it
would
be best to start with an English page to make the tips available for
other
languages too.
It would be nice to have an updated English HowTo, that can then be
translated to our other languages. But of course if the german one
becomes
available first it can be translated to English.
If you want, I can offer to review the HowTo from a technical pootle
standpoint.
rgds
jan I.
Kind regards
Regina
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Merci beaucoup problème résolu par un de vos technicien G. FERRAGNE ---Message original--- De : Marcus (OOo) Date : 11/08/2013 22:18:40 A : dev@openoffice.apache.org Cc : ferragne ghislaine Sujet : Re: [Website] Hi, you wrote to a public mailing list that is used in English language. Unfortunately, I don't understand any French. If you need help with OpenOffice please refer to our user forums here: http://forum.openoffice.org/ Thanks for your understanding. Marcus Am 08/09/2013 10:52 PM, schrieb ferragne ghislaine: BOnjour Je viens de mettre à jour open office 4 par contre depuis, je n 'arrive pas à faire des comptes, pourtant tout le reste fonctionne à merveille J 'y arrivais très bien avec la version précédente et ce, depuis de nombreuses années et avec plusieurs logiciels differents. Merci de bien vouloir me dire si j 'ai mal fait la mise à jour, Merci par avance G. Ferragne
