Re: Need QA (test) volunteers on MacOS Mavericks
Raphael, Glad to know that, thanks very much for your testing and reporting! Regards, Yu Zhen On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 4:47 PM, Raphael Bircher r.birc...@gmx.ch wrote: Am 29.10.13 08:32, schrieb Yuzhen Fan: Hi, We're looking for people who can spend a few time over this and next week to run pre-defined checklist on their MacOS Mavericks operating system, and to enter Bugzilla issues for any failed test functions, as well as to highlighter the critical bugs in the test report. If you have interest on it, please let me know as soon as possible, I will send you the general testing list. Thanks! I have allready tested the critical Mac OS X stuff with Maverick Maverick has not changed that much, so it should not have a load of problem Tested: - Mac OS Internal Spellchecker (works) - Open/Save dialog (works) - Printing. First it doesn't recognise the printer, but arter restartin the Computer it works fine - Java 32 bit verion works fine - The known GateKeeper issue is also present in Maverick In the sumary, It works well, the issues I found are allready known, exept the one with the printer. +1 for me that we offizialy support Mac OS 10.9 maverick. Greetings Raphael --**--**- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@openoffice.**apache.orgdev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Autocomplete source code
Hi, On 15.10.2013 09:08, Jürgen Schmidt wrote: On 10/14/13 10:28 PM, Andrea Pescetti wrote: On 13/10/2013 Shemil Hashan wrote: Please give me a link to the source code of autocomplete feature. Or give me the folder in full source code I don't have the answer, but I'm trying to clarify (and summarize some old messages) so that experienced developers can answer. Shemil is interested in the Writer autocomplete feature (i.e., when you type inter Writer automatically suggest interesting if you used it in other places in the text) and would like to have pointers to the source code with the idea to improve the user interface for this functionality and make other possible choices (like interested in my example above) more visible. Can anyone tell Shemil where to look into? I don't know either but I would start building the office from scratch and then building the module sw with debug information, copy the related libraries in the office and start debugging. Use opengrok (path sw) to identify possible code places and set breakpoints ... Probably Oliver can give more concrete tips but he is on vacation this week. I am sorry - I did not had the time to provide the requested information since my return from vacation. I hope I will until the end of the week. Shemil Hashan, just ping me again, if I am running out of time and are not able to give the corresponding pointers to the code. Best regards, Oliver. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: The crux with 2 open standards for more or less the same thing
Hi, On 29.10.2013 20:05, Andrew Rist wrote: On 10/28/2013 12:38 PM, Jörg Schmidt wrote: Hello, From: Andrea Pescetti [mailto:pesce...@apache.org] That is the reason why we will start to investigate in a better OOXML support for AOO and you will probably notice some more activity in the future going in this direction. Excellent. A better Microsoft compatibility is what our users set as #1 priority in the user survey and improving OOXML import (and export!) is surely part of that. This is a pragmatic way, also a necessary way, but I fear it will be in the long run, even the death of the current ODF. No user of MS Office will move more of OOXML to ODF, if the compatibility of OOXML in AOO will be similar as well of *.doc. It is not wrong to improve compatibility with OOXML, but that will unfortunately be the side effect. I think that you should see clearly. We must also see that the need to improve the compatibility with OOXML, unfortunately, also an expression of the fact that market dominance continues to have MS Office . I look at what happens at the ISO, where they talked some time ago by the merging of the two standards ( ODF and OOXML), and take statements from experts seriously, it seems to me the path mapped out, there will be a new standard in the future, even if no one likes to hear. http://xkcd.com/927/ Nice. Unfortunately, I believe that this comic is not only fun, but also true. Best regards, Oliver. We should all prepare ourselves to it and work on it that it prevents the MS this standard does not dominate. That's what we should see as a long term goal. I am thinking there must be cooperation between _all_ the OSS projects will use the ODF. Greetings, Jörg - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Is it possible to be a distributor of open office software
Re: Is it possible to be a distributor of open office software
On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 7:58 AM, bean ernest e-b...@blueyonder.co.uk wrote: Hello Ernest, Apache OpenOffice is provided to the public under an open source licenses that permits redistribution. For more details see: http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/SellingOOo Regards, -Rob - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: [CWiki] Account Whitelisting
On 29/10/2013 Michael Humpherys wrote: I have signed up on CWiki under the username: mhumpher and real name: Michael Humpherys. Thanks! Done: Whitelisted ~mhumpher Michael Humpherys Regards, Andrea. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
linuxcopyrightfile / solariscopyrightfile
Hi, While cleaning up our installer scripts in insetoo_native/ and searching for places where to hook in the patch generation code I stumbled over some files in setup_native/source/packinfo. Most files seem to be just old and obsolete. But a few are a bit more strange. - There are three .pcp files (openoffice.pcp, openofficelanguagepack.pcp, ure.pcp). These are binary database files used for creating Windows patches, the precursor to what I am doing. Pcp files can be created from text files, so what are these doing in our repository? - The two files mentioned in the subject, linuxcopyrightfile and solariscopyrightfile, contain copyright notices for Oracle. They are even listed in main/rat-excludes. And to repeat myself, what are they still doing in our repository? Could there be any legal reason not to delete these files? If nobody objects, I will try to get rid of these and all other files in setup_native/source/packinfo. Regards, Andre - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: [Pootle] about translating AOOE site
2013/8/14 Roberto Galoppini roberto.galopp...@gmail.com 2013/8/13 janI j...@apache.org On 12 August 2013 23:47, Ricardo Berlasso rgb.m...@gmail.com wrote: 2013/8/12 janI j...@apache.org On 12 August 2013 11:11, janI j...@apache.org wrote: On 12 August 2013 11:01, Raphael Bircher r.birc...@gmx.ch wrote: Am 12.08.13 10:56, schrieb janI: On 12 August 2013 10:48, Roberto Galoppini roberto.galopp...@gmail.com **wrote: Could we create a pootle project on translate.apache.org to upload AOOE PO files and get them translated? I have the karma to do that, but sorry for my lack of knowledge, what is AOOE compared to AOO ? Apache OpenOffice Extension Website?! that was too simple, why did I not see that. Project is created, so as soon as I get the files I will put them on the vm. After the initial load anybody can download them, and users can upload changes. Great! Just a small comment: there is a typo on the project name: there is a missing i between the f and the c: it says Apache OpenOffce Extensions. corrected (not by me someone was faster). I am still waiting for the initial batch of po files, you cannot load the primary set yourself. Thanks Jan, We are now cleaning up PO files that actually contain thousands of Drupal strings, I'll be back to yo with an English, German and French versions in few days. If it works fine we'll be able to add the Polish version right away. Any news on this? The pootle project for the extension site is still empty (BTW, it still says Apache OpenOffce Extensions, with a missing i in Office). A Spanish translation will be great ;) Regards, Ricardo Roberto In general we need .pot (po template files for en-US), these act as template files for all languages. Furthermore an administrator (e.g. me) needs to activate new languages, currently no languages are active. rgds jan I. Regards Ricardo rgds jan I. thx. rgds jan I. If you make the po files available to me, I can do it relative fast. rgds jan I. Roberto --**--**- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@openoffice.**apache.org dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Is it possible to be a distributor of open office software
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[CWiki] Account Whitelisting
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Documention - sort of
Howdy folks, First I want to thank Jean Weber for making this email possible. Recently I had need to work on a document regarding AOO for a disk project I'm working on and I wanted to use an existing resource from the ODF Authors group, specifically the custom template used to generate the user guides the group produces. That template was (is) dual licensed GPL/CC-BY-SA 3.0. What I wanted however was the option to license the derived work under he Apache license - so using the original template as, ah a template, I proceeded to make some changes, but in the end the text which describes how to use it was predominantly from Jean. I just got the email from her giving me permission to re-license my updated file and I will make this new template available to the project dual licensed as Apache 2.0 and CC-By-SA, which will allow anyone basing a final work on the template to license as either or both. So, a few quick questions for the group here. Easy one first- the template includes a contact email for reporting any problems or suggestions, the original listed the ODF Authors discuss mailing list and I would assume for this new one he right answer is this list, yes? Location - since I'm still a bit out of the loop is there a spot on either wiki where folks would want this? Copyright - The original template is set to default to a copyright for ODF Authors, I assume (oh such a bad word) that here the copyright would be left to the author(s) and not the ASF or maybe so, or maybe so sometimes.. ?? So - the template is ready to go and I'll wait for response(s) to those easy questions and look to post it up when next I'm tethered to the global tracking system next ;) //drew
Draft blog post: 75 Million Downloads of Apache OpenOffice
As predicted we hit 75 million yesterday. I updated the various charts and added them to a new blog post: https://blogs.apache.org/preview/OOo/?previewEntry=75_million_downloads_of_apache Regards, -Rob - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: The crux with 2 open standards for more or less the same thing
On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 11:57 AM, Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, The OpenDocument format (ODF) which has it's roots in OpenOffice is a good thing and it helped a lot that office productivity becomes a little bit more transparent and a step forward to become vendor independent. Ideally one standard would have been used and would evolve over time to address new requirements, features etc. We all know that the reality is different and we have today 2 open standards for more or less the same thing, at least from my point of view. We have ODF which is an OASIS and ISO standard (ISO/IEC 26300:2006), see [1] and [2]. And we have OOXML which is an Ecma and ISO standard (ISO/IEC 29500-1:2008), see [3] and [4]. We can now argue why do we have 2 standards and can discuss the pros and cons. But does it help? I don't think so and I believe we have to live with the current situation. But this means that we have to take into account that OOXML is an important file format that becomes more and more important over time. And that we should think about a strategy to support this format better in AOO. We see growing demand for better interoperability with OOXML and I believe we can't ignore this anymore. We have OOXML import which have to be improved and we don't have an export yet. I think it was a strategic decision from Sun/Oracle to focus on an import only. I believe the goal was to push ODF and an ODF eco system which was not a bad idea. But again the reality seems to be different today and the demand for OOXML is growing. That is the reason why we will start to investigate in a better OOXML support for AOO and you will probably notice some more activity in the future going in this direction. We have already started to analyze what we have and how we can push things forward. One thing is of course the missing export and the other thing an improved import. For the import we are thinking about a bigger change to consolidate 3 different approaches in 3 applications that we have today and we plan to start a new framework. Something cleaner and better structured as what we have today and that will give us further opportunities to use it for analyzing of documents and used features, tracking of our coverage and in the end to become more efficient. An idea: Maybe we can start collecting links and resources related to OOXML support in AOO on this wiki page: http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Xml ??? -Rob Of course this does not mean that we support ODF any less. We remain strong supporters of ODF and aim to be the reference implementation for the standard. AOO committers like Regina, Oliver and Rob work directly on the ODF standard in OASIS. And it is not really about choosing one standard over another. The point is to preserve the MS interop capabilities that OOo always had, and update it to work with the latest formats used by MSO. Anyway this will be a major task but I believe a necessary and important one for AOO to continue to be the best free open source office suite. Juergen [1] https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/tc_home.php?wg_abbrev=office [2] http://www.iso.org/iso/iso_catalogue/catalogue_tc/catalogue_detail.htm?csnumber=43485 [3] http://www.ecma-international.org/publications/standards/Ecma-376.htm [4] http://www.iso.org/iso/catalogue_detail?csnumber=51463 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Open Office Volunteering
On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 12:27 AM, Vivek Rai vivek@gmail.com wrote: Sir, I think I can improve the AOO website's look - using CSS. Vivek -- There are others on dev and marketing who feel the same way. We can always use a fresh look! One of our volunteers started a strategic planning page for the website some time ago. We discuss the websites frequently, and changes are made as issues arise. A whole scale evaluation of the css we currently use has not been undertaken, though, and probably should. I would suggest you take a look at: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Website+Strategic+Plan and apply for a cwiki account if you'd like to participate in planning discussions in that form rather than the mailing list. Having a cwiki account will enable you to attach files to your suggestions -- css file changes, mockups -- as well. We are a community of volunteers. Please use the resources we have -- mailing list subscriptions, wiki accounts etc. -- to make your ideas known to the community as a whole. You've completed Levels 1 and 2 of the Orientation, and you sent an introductory e-mail to dev. That was great! Please continue your community involvement by subscribing to the dev list and sending your ideas to that list. Thanks again for your interest in Apache OpenOffice. On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 3:23 PM, Kay Schenk kay.sch...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 8:13 AM, Vivek Rai vivek@gmail.com wrote: I've completed Level 1 Level 2. Good going, Vivek! And thanks for letting me know. Please subscribe to dev@openoffice.apache.org http://openoffice.apache.org/mailing-lists.html#development-mailing-list-public so your progress can be shared with everyone. On Sun, Oct 20, 2013 at 3:32 PM, Kay Schenk kay.sch...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Oct 20, 2013 at 5:02 AM, Vivek Rai vivek@gmail.com wrote: Name : Vivek Rai Place : Kanpur, Uttar Pradesh, India Who I am : I'm a first year student of Information Communication Technology in Indian Institute of Information Technology Management Gwalior, India. Interested In : 1. Providing feedback about Open Office 2. Develop according to the feedback provided about Open Office by other volunteers. Skill Set : Programming experience in almost all languages especially in those which are part of Open Office - C++ Java. Thank You. Hello and thank you for volunteering. We have some orientation modules which should help you get started in learning how the project works, as well as providing some information on development: http://openoffice.apache.org/orientation/index.html We welcome your development efforts! -- - MzK There's so much boldness in living life this way ... we did it all, and no one can take it away from us. -- Diana Nyad -- - MzK “Unless someone like you cares a whole awful lot, Nothing is going to get better. It's not.” -- Dr. Seuss, The Lorax -- - MzK “Unless someone like you cares a whole awful lot, Nothing is going to get better. It's not.” -- Dr. Seuss, The Lorax
Re: Extensions
2013/10/30 Kay Schenk kay.sch...@gmail.com: On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 3:56 PM, Vladislav Stevanovic stevanovicvladis...@gmail.com wrote: @Kay: In my earlier mail of this discussion: Also, Filter option on site Extension need to has option for what version of AOO you want to find extension. I do not know how I droped this from my Proposals. Regards, Wlada Ok -- yeah I see that now in the thread but not in the proposals -- it was somehow missed and it really is the easiest solution to this dilemma. Well, at least with Roberto's help, we can move forward with this idea. As promised I've investigated further into this issue, here my findings. A) Despite we'd love to be able to distinguish between 'maintained' and 'umaintained' extensions there is no easy way to tell. In fact developers when they create an extension they can set a minimum and a maximum release version. Most of the times only a minimum release version is indicated. B) Extensions' authors can also use Extensions website to indicate release compatibility. Having said that if we want to figure out if a given extension is or is not AOO 4.0 compatible we need to test it ourselves. I believe the best way to go is to get a team of people committed to test few extensions and report findings. Based on those findings we could send a message to those extensions' authors to inform them about the compatibility check. We could add that we'll take care of updating the Extension website accordingly, so that end-users will know if a given extension works or not on AOO 4.x. I can take care of delivering the mass mailing as we did in the past, we probably need a bunch of volunteers to test those extensions so that we can target at least the top 100/200. Does it sound like a plan? Roberto 2013/10/29 Roberto Galoppini roberto.galopp...@gmail.com 2013/10/29 Kay Schenk kay.sch...@gmail.com: On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 1:16 PM, Vladislav Stevanovic stevanovicvladis...@gmail.com wrote: This is update of proposal: 1) Mark all unmaintained extensions on our site (With appropriate mark, and with button with link to the page where exist new, compatilble version of extension. Note: button will be added if exist new version. Marks and buttons will be on preview page, as result of search engeen) 2) Send mail to authors of extensions with request to make appropriate changes (in some short period) 3) If author does not answer on our mail, or does not update his extension, we will make this changes inside extension (if licence of extension permit) and make new web page on site Extensions for this new version. 4) If an end-user try to download an extension that has not been updated a pop-up might ask him/her if they're looking for an extension compatible with AOO 4.x or older version. If they ask for AOO 4.x they'll be redirected to the new extension page, otherwise they'll get the 3.x compatible extension. It is now this proposal good? Regards, Wlada Well...I apologize for not keeping up with this conversation earlier, by here's my take on some of this. * @Roberto -- it looks like MANY extensions (the ones I've checked anyway) have version compatibility information. Can this be set-up as a search filter like OS, etc.? And, perhpas make it the FIRST filter group? * If this could be done, we wouldn't need to do anything much with contacting authors, much less changing any code in the extensions. Users would be able to find extensions for the version they're using without much trouble. Again, I apologize for not partaking in this conversations sooner. I'm just thinking letting users find the appropriate extension themselves might be easier than taking a more aggressive approach with this. Great idea Kay! +1 I'll look into what it takes to make it in the very next days, stay tuned! 2013/10/29 Roberto Galoppini roberto.galopp...@gmail.com 2013/10/28 Vladislav Stevanovic stevanovicvladis...@gmail.com: Why should we mark them? If there is some warning mark, visually you will in easier way to know that this extension is not compatible with AOO4.0. We can even more. We can (near that mark) add button for link to the version which can run on AOO4.0. Where we can add this marks, buttons?Before you actual go inside some of extension's page, you have page where is some kind list of extensions, what serve as preview. I think that this page with list of extensions, given by search engine, is not page of authors of extensions, so I think that we can freely add this helpful marks, buttons etc. Purpose of this is to save time for end-user when he/she want to find appropriate extension. But, if somebody miss to see marks or he/she using direct link to the author's page of extension, your idea to having pop-ups
Re: [Pootle] about translating AOOE site
2013/10/30 Ricardo Berlasso rgb.m...@gmail.com: 2013/8/14 Roberto Galoppini roberto.galopp...@gmail.com 2013/8/13 janI j...@apache.org On 12 August 2013 23:47, Ricardo Berlasso rgb.m...@gmail.com wrote: 2013/8/12 janI j...@apache.org On 12 August 2013 11:11, janI j...@apache.org wrote: On 12 August 2013 11:01, Raphael Bircher r.birc...@gmx.ch wrote: Am 12.08.13 10:56, schrieb janI: On 12 August 2013 10:48, Roberto Galoppini roberto.galopp...@gmail.com **wrote: Could we create a pootle project on translate.apache.org to upload AOOE PO files and get them translated? I have the karma to do that, but sorry for my lack of knowledge, what is AOOE compared to AOO ? Apache OpenOffice Extension Website?! that was too simple, why did I not see that. Project is created, so as soon as I get the files I will put them on the vm. After the initial load anybody can download them, and users can upload changes. Great! Just a small comment: there is a typo on the project name: there is a missing i between the f and the c: it says Apache OpenOffce Extensions. corrected (not by me someone was faster). I am still waiting for the initial batch of po files, you cannot load the primary set yourself. Thanks Jan, We are now cleaning up PO files that actually contain thousands of Drupal strings, I'll be back to yo with an English, German and French versions in few days. If it works fine we'll be able to add the Polish version right away. Any news on this? The pootle project for the extension site is still empty (BTW, it still says Apache OpenOffce Extensions, with a missing i in Office). A Spanish translation will be great ;) Hi Ricardo, It has been queued up, it won't take long to get it done. For the missing 'i' guess someone can get it done. Roberto Regards, Ricardo Roberto In general we need .pot (po template files for en-US), these act as template files for all languages. Furthermore an administrator (e.g. me) needs to activate new languages, currently no languages are active. rgds jan I. Regards Ricardo rgds jan I. thx. rgds jan I. If you make the po files available to me, I can do it relative fast. rgds jan I. Roberto --**--**- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@openoffice.**apache.org dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Draft blog post: 75 Million Downloads of Apache OpenOffice
On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 1:10 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: As predicted we hit 75 million yesterday. I updated the various charts and added them to a new blog post: https://blogs.apache.org/preview/OOo/?previewEntry=75_million_downloads_of_apache the full table http://www.openoffice.org/stats/countries.html our the website - the full table http://www.openoffice.org/stats/countries.html on the website on the Y-axis). - on the Y-axis.) Windows 8, is in second place - (suggested) Windows 8 for second place Aside from that, is it more useful/intuitive to show the RPM/DEB ratio, as opposed to the multicolor fraction-of-volume you use for Windows? I realize it's only two values, but even for two values what's clearer for a user to read? Don
Re: Draft blog post: 75 Million Downloads of Apache OpenOffice
On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 1:44 PM, Donald Whytock dwhyt...@apache.org wrote: On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 1:10 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: As predicted we hit 75 million yesterday. I updated the various charts and added them to a new blog post: https://blogs.apache.org/preview/OOo/?previewEntry=75_million_downloads_of_apache the full table http://www.openoffice.org/stats/countries.html our the website - the full tablehttp://www.openoffice.org/stats/countries.html on the website on the Y-axis). - on the Y-axis.) Windows 8, is in second place - (suggested) Windows 8 for second place Aside from that, is it more useful/intuitive to show the RPM/DEB ratio, as opposed to the multicolor fraction-of-volume you use for Windows? I realize it's only two values, but even for two values what's clearer for a user to read? Don Oh, and trademark disclaimer.
Re: Draft blog post: 75 Million Downloads of Apache OpenOffice
On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 1:44 PM, Donald Whytock dwhyt...@apache.org wrote: On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 1:10 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: As predicted we hit 75 million yesterday. I updated the various charts and added them to a new blog post: https://blogs.apache.org/preview/OOo/?previewEntry=75_million_downloads_of_apache the full table http://www.openoffice.org/stats/countries.html our the website - the full table http://www.openoffice.org/stats/countries.html on the website on the Y-axis). - on the Y-axis.) Windows 8, is in second place - (suggested) Windows 8 for second place Thanks, I made those corrections. Aside from that, is it more useful/intuitive to show the RPM/DEB ratio, as opposed to the multicolor fraction-of-volume you use for Windows? I realize it's only two values, but even for two values what's clearer for a user to read? I did try it with the RPM and DEB series each plotted, rather than a ratio. But the values are so close that the points piles on each other most of the time. I don't think it worked as well. Regards, -Rob Don - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Draft blog post: 75 Million Downloads of Apache OpenOffice
Hi Rob, Rob Weir schrieb: As predicted we hit 75 million yesterday. I updated the various charts and added them to a new blog post: https://blogs.apache.org/preview/OOo/?previewEntry=75_million_downloads_of_apache that looks good and the wording is easy to understand. Please look at sentence We show the full table our the website, of all 238 countries, territories, etc., but here are the top 10. Seems a word is missing there. Kind regards Regina - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Draft blog post: 75 Million Downloads of Apache OpenOffice
Am 10/30/2013 07:04 PM, schrieb Rob Weir: On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 1:44 PM, Donald Whytockdwhyt...@apache.org wrote: On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 1:10 PM, Rob Weirrobw...@apache.org wrote: As predicted we hit 75 million yesterday. I updated the various charts and added them to a new blog post: https://blogs.apache.org/preview/OOo/?previewEntry=75_million_downloads_of_apache the full tablehttp://www.openoffice.org/stats/countries.html our the website - the full tablehttp://www.openoffice.org/stats/countries.html on the website on the Y-axis). - on the Y-axis.) Windows 8, is in second place - (suggested) Windows 8 for second place Thanks, I made those corrections. Thanks for collecting and visualizing those numbers. It's always again very interesting to see the interests of our users and trends into the future. Aside from that, is it more useful/intuitive to show the RPM/DEB ratio, as opposed to the multicolor fraction-of-volume you use for Windows? I realize it's only two values, but even for two values what's clearer for a user to read? I did try it with the RPM and DEB series each plotted, rather than a ratio. But the values are so close that the points piles on each other most of the time. I don't think it worked as well. When you have already seen 2 nearly identical lines for RPM and DEB then I would state this in the text - to make it clear that we don't see a preference in one of the both package systems. Please let me allow some further comments. Maybe you can add this or of course with different wordings: You can clearly see the increase in interest since the release of Apache OpenOffice 4.0. The difference comes due to more work that was put into press/news announcements as it was our first major release with new features - to make the difference to 3.4.0 and 3.4.1 more clear. Trend in OS Even when we know that the very most Linux users use the office suite that comes pre-installed with their Linux distro, IMHO it is really impressive that we still have ~2,000 to ~4,000 downloads - and that per day. Marcus - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Draft blog post: 75 Million Downloads of Apache OpenOffice
Rob, very nice. Can you in chart Downloads by Language put numbers of download? There is pretty much of empty space...and everything will be much clearly. Regards, Wlada 2013/10/30 Marcus (OOo) marcus.m...@wtnet.de Am 10/30/2013 07:04 PM, schrieb Rob Weir: On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 1:44 PM, Donald Whytockdwhyt...@apache.org wrote: On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 1:10 PM, Rob Weirrobw...@apache.org wrote: As predicted we hit 75 million yesterday. I updated the various charts and added them to a new blog post: https://blogs.apache.org/**preview/OOo/?previewEntry=75_** million_downloads_of_apachehttps://blogs.apache.org/preview/OOo/?previewEntry=75_million_downloads_of_apache the full tablehttp://www.openoffice.**org/stats/countries.htmlhttp://www.openoffice.org/stats/countries.html our the website - the full tablehttp://www.openoffice.** org/stats/countries.htmlhttp://www.openoffice.org/stats/countries.html on the website on the Y-axis). - on the Y-axis.) Windows 8, is in second place - (suggested) Windows 8 for second place Thanks, I made those corrections. Thanks for collecting and visualizing those numbers. It's always again very interesting to see the interests of our users and trends into the future. Aside from that, is it more useful/intuitive to show the RPM/DEB ratio, as opposed to the multicolor fraction-of-volume you use for Windows? I realize it's only two values, but even for two values what's clearer for a user to read? I did try it with the RPM and DEB series each plotted, rather than a ratio. But the values are so close that the points piles on each other most of the time. I don't think it worked as well. When you have already seen 2 nearly identical lines for RPM and DEB then I would state this in the text - to make it clear that we don't see a preference in one of the both package systems. Please let me allow some further comments. Maybe you can add this or of course with different wordings: You can clearly see the increase in interest since the release of Apache OpenOffice 4.0. The difference comes due to more work that was put into press/news announcements as it was our first major release with new features - to make the difference to 3.4.0 and 3.4.1 more clear. Trend in OS Even when we know that the very most Linux users use the office suite that comes pre-installed with their Linux distro, IMHO it is really impressive that we still have ~2,000 to ~4,000 downloads - and that per day. Marcus --**--**- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@openoffice.**apache.orgdev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
link
Hello, My name is Kasey and I was wondering if I may possibly link to the OpenOffice website from mine, my site is www.stormythoughts.com (a family owned imaging website) and if I may link to your site may I use OpenOffice.org is open-source office software suite for word processing, spreadsheets, presentations, graphics, databases and more. write-up to describe it best? Thank you. Kasey http://www.stormythoughts.com ad...@stormythoughts.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Extensions
On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 10:28 AM, Roberto Galoppini roberto.galopp...@gmail.com wrote: 2013/10/30 Kay Schenk kay.sch...@gmail.com: On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 3:56 PM, Vladislav Stevanovic stevanovicvladis...@gmail.com wrote: @Kay: In my earlier mail of this discussion: Also, Filter option on site Extension need to has option for what version of AOO you want to find extension. I do not know how I droped this from my Proposals. Regards, Wlada Ok -- yeah I see that now in the thread but not in the proposals -- it was somehow missed and it really is the easiest solution to this dilemma. Well, at least with Roberto's help, we can move forward with this idea. As promised I've investigated further into this issue, here my findings. A) Despite we'd love to be able to distinguish between 'maintained' and 'umaintained' extensions there is no easy way to tell. In fact developers when they create an extension they can set a minimum and a maximum release version. Most of the times only a minimum release version is indicated. B) Extensions' authors can also use Extensions website to indicate release compatibility. ok, this B) is what I was referring to (and probably Wlada as well). I don't know how easy it would be for SF to get at this information, at least, and use it in a filter. If it could be done, we could at least start there. Having said that if we want to figure out if a given extension is or is not AOO 4.0 compatible we need to test it ourselves. I believe the best way to go is to get a team of people committed to test few extensions and report findings. Based on those findings we could send a message to those extensions' authors to inform them about the compatibility check. We could add that we'll take care of updating the Extension website accordingly, so that end-users will know if a given extension works or not on AOO 4.x. This is a good way to get going on this for sure! I can take care of delivering the mass mailing as we did in the past, we probably need a bunch of volunteers to test those extensions so that we can target at least the top 100/200. Does it sound like a plan? yes, and a good one. Roberto 2013/10/29 Roberto Galoppini roberto.galopp...@gmail.com 2013/10/29 Kay Schenk kay.sch...@gmail.com: On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 1:16 PM, Vladislav Stevanovic stevanovicvladis...@gmail.com wrote: This is update of proposal: 1) Mark all unmaintained extensions on our site (With appropriate mark, and with button with link to the page where exist new, compatilble version of extension. Note: button will be added if exist new version. Marks and buttons will be on preview page, as result of search engeen) 2) Send mail to authors of extensions with request to make appropriate changes (in some short period) 3) If author does not answer on our mail, or does not update his extension, we will make this changes inside extension (if licence of extension permit) and make new web page on site Extensions for this new version. 4) If an end-user try to download an extension that has not been updated a pop-up might ask him/her if they're looking for an extension compatible with AOO 4.x or older version. If they ask for AOO 4.x they'll be redirected to the new extension page, otherwise they'll get the 3.x compatible extension. It is now this proposal good? Regards, Wlada Well...I apologize for not keeping up with this conversation earlier, by here's my take on some of this. * @Roberto -- it looks like MANY extensions (the ones I've checked anyway) have version compatibility information. Can this be set-up as a search filter like OS, etc.? And, perhpas make it the FIRST filter group? * If this could be done, we wouldn't need to do anything much with contacting authors, much less changing any code in the extensions. Users would be able to find extensions for the version they're using without much trouble. Again, I apologize for not partaking in this conversations sooner. I'm just thinking letting users find the appropriate extension themselves might be easier than taking a more aggressive approach with this. Great idea Kay! +1 I'll look into what it takes to make it in the very next days, stay tuned! 2013/10/29 Roberto Galoppini roberto.galopp...@gmail.com 2013/10/28 Vladislav Stevanovic stevanovicvladis...@gmail.com: Why should we mark them? If there is some warning mark, visually you will in easier way to know that this extension is not compatible with AOO4.0. We can even more. We can (near that mark) add button for link to the version which can run on AOO4.0. Where we can add this marks, buttons?Before you actual go inside some of
Re: call for help to test AOO www and AOO wiki (certificates for *.o.o)
Hi Joe/JanIV/Mark, THANKS for getting the SSL certificate to work. We really, really needed this for the wiki and forums! Given the scope of the conversion of internal relative links. I think it is reasonable to expect that the project will not be in a hurry to start rushing in to convert 100,000 links without a plan. Hey AOO Devs: I have the experience of touching all of these html files when we ported them. I did do url rewrites and we have scripting to handle these cases! See ooo-site/trunk/tools/ - http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/openoffice/ooo-site/trunk/tools/ Specifically the files urlrewrite.sh and urlrewrite.sed Working locally on a full checkout of ooo-site: http://openoffice.apache.org/website-local.html#how-to-do-website-development-locally-for-technical-users (1) urlrewrite.sed needs the additional rules. (2) To convert: $ cd ooo-site/trunk/tools $ ./urlrewrite.sh . # there is a dot at the end - please use it. (3) Do a local build. (4) Commit the massive changes. Voila! If the project wants to define the additional url rewrites then I will find cycles this weekend, or I can guide someone else. Regards, Dave On Oct 26, 2013, at 6:51 PM, Joseph Schaefer wrote: I don't think there are any plans to change the dual http/https nature of the site, even in the worst case scenario of redirecting everything to https, the old links will still resolve. Sent from my iPhone On Oct 26, 2013, at 9:49 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Sat, Oct 26, 2013 at 9:34 PM, Joseph Schaefer joe_schae...@yahoo.com wrote: No. Ideally urls local to the site use relative addressing so it will work properly when viewed over http or https. The reason you don't want hard coded http urls on the site is because https browsers will warn the user about fetching insecure resources. OK. So long as external, incoming http:// URL's will still resolve. -Rob Sent from my iPhone On Oct 26, 2013, at 9:30 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Sat, Oct 26, 2013 at 5:05 PM, Ariel Constenla-Haile arie...@apache.org wrote: On Sat, Oct 26, 2013 at 10:54:59PM +0200, janI wrote: Hi. www.openoffice.org now accept both http: and https: as announced earlier. We have however seen that e.g. product.css contain image tag with http://xxx. All references must be relative (without http: and https:). I hope the web admins can do make the needed changes. There are 26,349 matches of http://www.openoffice.org/; in ooo-site. We *are not* going to change to a system that requires that links to www.openoffice.org are all https. I hope that is not what is being suggested. Remember, we have 10's of thousands of *external* links to our website that we do control and cannot change. Please someone, tell me that this is not what is being suggested here. -Rob Regards -- Ariel Constenla-Haile La Plata, Argentina - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
[ABCD/02][2013/10/30] Re: Extensions
On 10/30/2013 05:28 PM, Roberto Galoppini wrote: I can take care of delivering the mass mailing as we did in the past, we probably need a bunch of volunteers to test those extensions so that we can target at least the top 100/200. I don't if you mean: * Each individual is to test 100 - 200 extensions; * Only 100 - 200 extensions are to be tested; Regardless, each extension needs to be tested on each platform that AOO is available for. Ideally, BSD Linux testing would be for several different distros, and versions of those distros. If you want people to test more than five or six extensions, write a tool that will automatically install all of the extensions in a file directory. jonathon * English - detected * English * English javascript:void(0); - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Documention - sort of
On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 10:09 AM, Drew Jensen drewjensen.in...@gmail.comwrote: Howdy folks, First I want to thank Jean Weber for making this email possible. Recently I had need to work on a document regarding AOO for a disk project I'm working on and I wanted to use an existing resource from the ODF Authors group, specifically the custom template used to generate the user guides the group produces. That template was (is) dual licensed GPL/CC-BY-SA 3.0. What I wanted however was the option to license the derived work under he Apache license - so using the original template as, ah a template, I proceeded to make some changes, but in the end the text which describes how to use it was predominantly from Jean. I just got the email from her giving me permission to re-license my updated file and I will make this new template available to the project dual licensed as Apache 2.0 and CC-By-SA, which will allow anyone basing a final work on the template to license as either or both. So, a few quick questions for the group here. Easy one first- the template includes a contact email for reporting any problems or suggestions, the original listed the ODF Authors discuss mailing list and I would assume for this new one he right answer is this list, yes? Location - since I'm still a bit out of the loop is there a spot on either wiki where folks would want this? Copyright - The original template is set to default to a copyright for ODF Authors, I assume (oh such a bad word) that here the copyright would be left to the author(s) and not the ASF or maybe so, or maybe so sometimes.. ?? So - the template is ready to go and I'll wait for response(s) to those easy questions and look to post it up when next I'm tethered to the global tracking system next ;) //drew All of our basic documentation except for Release Notes is still using the original wiki -- wiki.openoffice.org so I would think that might be the best place. But, I think the folks on the documentation mailing list -- d...@openoffice.apache.org -- might offer specific suggestions as far as placement goes. Just my .02. -- - MzK “Unless someone like you cares a whole awful lot, Nothing is going to get better. It's not.” -- Dr. Seuss, The Lorax
Re: call for help to test AOO www and AOO wiki (certificates for *.o.o)
On Oct 30, 2013, at 4:51 PM, Dave Fisher wrote: Hi Joe/JanIV/Mark, THANKS for getting the SSL certificate to work. We really, really needed this for the wiki and forums! Given the scope of the conversion of internal relative links. I think it is reasonable to expect that the project will not be in a hurry to start rushing in to convert 100,000 links without a plan. Hey AOO Devs: I have the experience of touching all of these html files when we ported them. I did do url rewrites and we have scripting to handle these cases! See ooo-site/trunk/tools/ - http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/openoffice/ooo-site/trunk/tools/ Specifically the files urlrewrite.sh and urlrewrite.sed I have accumulated information about remaining links using the form http://*.openoffice.org/ and https://*.openoffice.org/ Look for more this week before a sledgehammer change over the weekend. This will be with a new subject. Regards, Dave Working locally on a full checkout of ooo-site: http://openoffice.apache.org/website-local.html#how-to-do-website-development-locally-for-technical-users (1) urlrewrite.sed needs the additional rules. (2) To convert: $ cd ooo-site/trunk/tools $ ./urlrewrite.sh . # there is a dot at the end - please use it. (3) Do a local build. (4) Commit the massive changes. Voila! If the project wants to define the additional url rewrites then I will find cycles this weekend, or I can guide someone else. Regards, Dave On Oct 26, 2013, at 6:51 PM, Joseph Schaefer wrote: I don't think there are any plans to change the dual http/https nature of the site, even in the worst case scenario of redirecting everything to https, the old links will still resolve. Sent from my iPhone On Oct 26, 2013, at 9:49 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Sat, Oct 26, 2013 at 9:34 PM, Joseph Schaefer joe_schae...@yahoo.com wrote: No. Ideally urls local to the site use relative addressing so it will work properly when viewed over http or https. The reason you don't want hard coded http urls on the site is because https browsers will warn the user about fetching insecure resources. OK. So long as external, incoming http:// URL's will still resolve. -Rob Sent from my iPhone On Oct 26, 2013, at 9:30 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Sat, Oct 26, 2013 at 5:05 PM, Ariel Constenla-Haile arie...@apache.org wrote: On Sat, Oct 26, 2013 at 10:54:59PM +0200, janI wrote: Hi. www.openoffice.org now accept both http: and https: as announced earlier. We have however seen that e.g. product.css contain image tag with http://xxx. All references must be relative (without http: and https:). I hope the web admins can do make the needed changes. There are 26,349 matches of http://www.openoffice.org/; in ooo-site. We *are not* going to change to a system that requires that links to www.openoffice.org are all https. I hope that is not what is being suggested. Remember, we have 10's of thousands of *external* links to our website that we do control and cannot change. Please someone, tell me that this is not what is being suggested here. -Rob Regards -- Ariel Constenla-Haile La Plata, Argentina - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Extensions
On 10/30/2013 05:28 PM, Roberto Galoppini wrote: A) Despite we'd love to be able to distinguish between 'maintained' and 'umaintained' extensions there is no easy way to tell. Let's take Extension 6318 as an example. http://extensions.openoffice.org/en/project/extension-6318 Μaintainer: Unmaintained Extension ID: com.readability.ReadabilityIndices Release Date: 07/04/2013 Compatiblity: 3.4 Questions: Where is that unmaintained datapoint coming from? Why are extensions that have a non-descriptive name, and no explanation of what they are supposed to do, publicly available? ### On the LibreOffice extension page, when one goes to download an extension that hasn't been updated in the last year, there is a great big warning notice that it might be unmaintained. Surely something along those lines could be added to the download page of the AOO extension. jonathon - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: link
On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 3:13 PM, Kasey ad...@stormythoughts.com wrote: Hello, My name is Kasey and I was wondering if I may possibly link to the OpenOffice website from mine, my site is www.stormythoughts.com (a family owned imaging website) and if I may link to your site may I use OpenOffice.org is open-source office software suite for word processing, spreadsheets, presentations, graphics, databases and more. write-up to describe it best? The correct name is Apache OpenOffice. The link should go to http://www.openoffice.org or directly to the download page at http://www.openoffice.org/download Your description, in your own words, is fine. Or, if you want something graphical, you can use our Get it here! logo: http://openoffice.apache.org/get-it-here.html Regards, -Rob Thank you. Kasey http://www.stormythoughts.com ad...@stormythoughts.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
New Dev Volunteer
Hi, I am Dhananjayan, from India, I completed my Bachelor's in Computer Science. I love data structures and problem solving. I'm good in C++. How can I start contributing? I'm new to open source contribution, so can anyone help me out?? Will anyone assign task for me?? Regards, Dhananjayan.
