Re: Compiling solver in cygwin references missing include folder

2014-01-21 Thread Oliver-Rainer Wittmann

Hi,

On 21.01.2014 01:28, Greg Bullock wrote:

I'm trying to set up my Windows 7 + cygwin + VSPro2008 system to build
the aoo trunk, with the hope of making some modest contributions to the
project.



Since Herbert rework on our STL usage we need SP1 of the Microsoft 
Visual Studio 2008 C++ compiler.
As you are using Visual Studio 2008 Professional, can you please check, 
if you have the SP1 of it installed.


On my system (Windows 7 + cygwin + Microsoft Windows SDK for Windows 7 
and .NET Framework 3.5 SP1) the version information of the Microsoft C++ 
compiler is (output of command 'cl' in cygwin shell with configured AOO 
build environment):
Microsoft (R) 32-bit C/C++ Optimizing Compiler Version 15.00.30729.01 
for 80x86


[Version information of the Microsoft Linker is:
Microsoft (R) Incremental Linker Version 9.00.30729.01]

If you have already the SP1 version of the needed compiler we need to 
go into deeper details to find out what is not working on your system.


Hope this helps.

Best regards, Oliver.


The build -all stage gets some ways into the task then gives the
following error message (quoted with some preceding lines for context):


Entering /cygdrive/h/aoo-trunk/main/sal/systools/win32/onlineupdate

Making:all_onlinecheck.dpslo
Compiling: sal/wntmsci12.pro/misc/onlinecheck_version.c
Compiling: sal/systools/win32/onlineupdate/onlinecheck.cxx
Making:module definition file onlinecheck.def
Making:onlinecheck.dll
Microsoft (R) Windows (R) Resource Compiler Version 6.1.7600.16385
Copyright (C) Microsoft Corporation.  All rights reserved.

Microsoft (R) Incremental Linker Version 9.00.21022.08
Copyright (C) Microsoft Corporation.  All rights reserved.

/MAP /OPT:NOREF -safeseh -nxcompat -dynamicbase -NODEFAULTLIB -RELEASE
-DEBUG -INCREMENTAL:NO /SUBSYSTEM:CONSOLE /DLL
-out:../../../wntmsci12.pro/bin/onlinecheck.dll
-map:../../../wntmsci12.pro/misc/onlinecheck.map
-def:../../../wntmsci12.pro/misc/onlinecheck.def
-implib:../../../wntmsci12.pro/lib/onlinecheck.lib
../../../wntmsci12.pro/slo/onlinecheck_version.obj
../../../wntmsci12.pro/slo/onlinecheck.obj kernel32.lib msvcrt.lib
msvcprt.lib wininet.lib msvcrt.lib msvcprt.lib uwinapi.lib kernel32.lib
user32.lib oldnames.lib ../../../wntmsci12.pro/misc/onlinecheck.res
Creating library ../../../wntmsci12.pro/lib/onlinecheck.lib and
object ../../../wntmsci12.pro/lib/onlinecheck.exp
linking ../../../wntmsci12.pro/bin/onlinecheck.dll.manifest ...
Making:all_onlinecheck.dpslo

Entering /cygdrive/h/aoo-trunk/main/sal/rtl/source

Making:all_cpprtl.dpslo
Making:all_cpprtl.dpobj
--- ALWAYSDBGFILES ---
Compiling: sal/rtl/source/debugprint.cxx
--- ALWAYSDBGFILES OVER ---
Compiling: sal/rtl/source/memory.c
Compiling: sal/rtl/source/cipher.c
Compiling: sal/rtl/source/crc.c
Compiling: sal/rtl/source/digest.c
Compiling: sal/rtl/source/random.c
Compiling: sal/rtl/source/locale.c
Compiling: sal/rtl/source/strimp.c
Compiling: sal/rtl/source/hash.cxx
H:/aoo-trunk/main/solver/410/wntmsci12.pro/inc/stl\hash_set(31) : fatal
error C1083: Cannot open include file: '../../VC/include/unordered_set':
No such file or directory
dmake:  Error code 2, while making '../../wntmsci12.pro/obj/hash.obj'

1 module(s):
 sal
need(s) to be rebuilt

Reason(s):

ERROR: error 65280 occurred while making
/cygdrive/h/aoo-trunk/main/sal/rtl/source

When you have fixed the errors in that module you can resume the build
by running:

 build --all:sal


I confirm that the hash_set file indeed has an include line referencing
the folder ../../VC/include/, which does not exist on my system:


/// (line 25):/
#ifdef HAVE_STL_INCLUDE_PATH
 // TODO: use computed include file name
 #include_next unordered_set
#elif defined(__cplusplus)  (__cplusplus = 201103L)
 #include unordered_set
#elif defined(_MSC_VER)
 #include ../../VC/include/unordered_set
 #define STLP4_EMUBASE_NS ::std::tr1
#else // fall back to boost/tr1
 #include boost/tr1/tr1/unordered_set
 #define STLP4_EMUBASE_NS ::boost
#endif


Can someone advise how to work around this?  Do I need to somehow
specify an STL path in the configure ... step?  Or do I need to give a
path to the boost library?  Or did I miss a warning somewhere?

My compiler resides at /cygdrive/c/Program Files (x86)/Microsoft Visual
Studio 9.0/VC/bin, and the folder
/cygdrive/c/Program Files (x86)/Microsoft Visual Studio 9.0/VC/include
has its own hash_set file, but no unordered_set file.

Happy to supply any additional information that may help.

Regards.
Greg




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Re: Precompiled headers

2014-01-21 Thread Oliver-Rainer Wittmann

Hi,

On 21.01.2014 08:57, Andre Fischer wrote:

Yesterday I was asked whether the use of precompiled headers had any
benefit on the compilation speed.  I thought the answer would be yes but
I was not sure.  So I did some tests.  And the difference is huge.  I
compiled sw/ with

 make -sr -j8

on a i7 s2720 (2.2GHz), 8GB Ram laptop.
Without precompiled headers that takes a little over 19 minutes. With
precompiled headers that drops down to a little over 10 minutes.  That
is a reduction of almost 50%.



I can confirm Andre's findings.
That is the reason why I had the precompiled headers enabled in all of 
my AOO build environments which I use for development under Windows.



Maybe we should think to
a) make the --enable-pch configure switch the default and

+1


b) remove the word experimental from its description.

+10


Best regards, Oliver.



Regards,
Andre

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Re: Precompiled headers

2014-01-21 Thread Andre Fischer

On 21.01.2014 08:57, Andre Fischer wrote:
Yesterday I was asked whether the use of precompiled headers had any 
benefit on the compilation speed.  I thought the answer would be yes 
but I was not sure.  So I did some tests.  And the difference is huge. 
I compiled sw/ with


make -sr -j8

on a i7 s2720 (2.2GHz), 8GB Ram laptop.


One important addition: precompiled headers are only supported on 
Windows (my experiment took place on Windows7).  I guess the other 
systems are fast enough without precompiled headers.


Without precompiled headers that takes a little over 19 minutes. With 
precompiled headers that drops down to a little over 10 minutes. That 
is a reduction of almost 50%.


Maybe we should think to
a) make the --enable-pch configure switch the default and
b) remove the word experimental from its description.

Regards,
Andre



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Re: Precompiled headers

2014-01-21 Thread Issac Goldstand
On 21/01/2014 10:09, Andre Fischer wrote:
 On 21.01.2014 08:57, Andre Fischer wrote:
 Yesterday I was asked whether the use of precompiled headers had any
 benefit on the compilation speed.  I thought the answer would be yes
 but I was not sure.  So I did some tests.  And the difference is
 huge. I compiled sw/ with

 make -sr -j8

 on a i7 s2720 (2.2GHz), 8GB Ram laptop.

 One important addition: precompiled headers are only supported on
 Windows (my experiment took place on Windows7).  I guess the other
 systems are fast enough without precompiled headers.

Also, I'm not an expert, but I think that there's a difference for
release artifacts whether or not you compile with PCH.  I know that the
chromium project, for example, recommends PCH for debug builds, but for
final releases, removing PCH is a big part of the optimizations...

  Issac


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aoo 4.1 and regression issue 124008

2014-01-21 Thread Peter Eberlein

Hi,

I'd like to attract the attention of the calc and qa guys to 
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=124008, which makes calc 
unusable (at least for companies).


Regards

Peter

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review requested: [Bug 124065] [Performance] Low performance opening attached .ods : [Attachment 82330] Fix

2014-01-21 Thread bugzilla
wujinl...@gmail.com has asked  for review:
Bug 124065: [Performance] Low performance opening attached .ods
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=124065

Attachment 82330: Fix
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/attachment.cgi?id=82330action=edit

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Re: Precompiled headers

2014-01-21 Thread Andre Fischer

On 21.01.2014 09:25, Issac Goldstand wrote:

On 21/01/2014 10:09, Andre Fischer wrote:

On 21.01.2014 08:57, Andre Fischer wrote:

Yesterday I was asked whether the use of precompiled headers had any
benefit on the compilation speed.  I thought the answer would be yes
but I was not sure.  So I did some tests.  And the difference is
huge. I compiled sw/ with

 make -sr -j8

on a i7 s2720 (2.2GHz), 8GB Ram laptop.

One important addition: precompiled headers are only supported on
Windows (my experiment took place on Windows7).  I guess the other
systems are fast enough without precompiled headers.


Also, I'm not an expert, but I think that there's a difference for
release artifacts whether or not you compile with PCH.  I know that the
chromium project, for example, recommends PCH for debug builds, but for
final releases, removing PCH is a big part of the optimizations...


Good to know.  Do you have any pointers?
-Andre



   Issac


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Re: Compiling solver in cygwin references missing include folder

2014-01-21 Thread Herbert Duerr

On 21.01.2014 01:28, Greg Bullock wrote:

I'm trying to set up my Windows 7 + cygwin + VSPro2008 system to build
the aoo trunk, with the hope of making some modest contributions to the
project.

The build -all stage gets some ways into the task then gives the
following error message (quoted with some preceding lines for context):


It is build --all, but looking at your log you already ran the right 
command.



[...]
Can someone advise how to work around this?  Do I need to somehow
specify an STL path in the configure ... step?  Or do I need to give a
path to the boost library?  Or did I miss a warning somewhere?

My compiler resides at /cygdrive/c/Program Files (x86)/Microsoft Visual
Studio 9.0/VC/bin, and the folder
/cygdrive/c/Program Files (x86)/Microsoft Visual Studio 9.0/VC/include
has its own hash_set file, but no unordered_set file.


Does your MSVC2008 have the service pack [1]? If not then please get SP1 
from [2] and install it.
[1] 
http://blogs.msdn.com/b/vcblog/archive/2008/08/11/tr1-fixes-in-vc9-sp1.aspx

[2] http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=10986


Happy to supply any additional information that may help.


Hope that helps.

Herbert

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Re: EXTERNAL: Re: Building comphelper

2014-01-21 Thread Herbert Duerr

Hi David,


I just wanted to share the basics of what I have found so far. I still have no 
idea on how to solve the issue.  Any help would be great!

Observed Behaviour
1.  OpenOffice starts, the splash screen with logo appears and then closes 
replaced with the full application window and choices for specific OpenOffice 
projects.
2.  Selecting either the Word or Spreadsheet project causes a segmentation 
fault and closes the application.
3.  Following the start of the application with the debugger, we can see 
the SidebarController is created in a first pass without error (known because 
first time to this stop point does not error).
4.  As the process continues, the SidebarController constructor is called a 
second time (unknown why, but could be understood with more familiarity with 
the system).
5.  The failure doesn't appear in the constructor, but the trace follows down 
SidebarController constructor call of WeakReferenceSidebarController 
WeakController (this);
6.  This template definition for WeakController uses 
ReferenceTemplate::Refrence( interface_type *pInterface) as its definition in 
::com::sun::star::uno::Reference.hxx.
7.  The function will try to convert the pInterface parameter to a 
XInterface type called _pInterface.
8.  If it succeeds in converting the pInterface to _pInterface then the 
function will try to acquire a new reference.
9.  Assumption: Creating this new reference calls 
SidebarController::notifyContextChangeEvent with a corrupt or bad rEvent. This 
assumption is based on the stack where the immediate next routine after the Reference 
function call is the notifyContextChangeEvent, also while following along in the 
debugger, the rEvent parameter at this point is already corrupted with the value 
ERROR stored in the structure.
10. It is later after the notifyContextChangeEvent calls Context and then 
ustring that the segmentation fault occurs, but I believe the error located in 
rEvent is what causes this later problem.


I haven't fully caught up with everything, but if I had to debug this 
I'd watch out for exceptions thrown in step 5 and later. In gdb I'd use 
the command

catch throw
to find the throwing code. Is there a similar facility in Solaris Studio?

Herbert

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Re: Precompiled headers

2014-01-21 Thread Issac Goldstand
On 21/01/2014 13:56, Andre Fischer wrote:
 On 21.01.2014 09:25, Issac Goldstand wrote:
 On 21/01/2014 10:09, Andre Fischer wrote:
 On 21.01.2014 08:57, Andre Fischer wrote:
 Yesterday I was asked whether the use of precompiled headers had any
 benefit on the compilation speed.  I thought the answer would be yes
 but I was not sure.  So I did some tests.  And the difference is
 huge. I compiled sw/ with

  make -sr -j8

 on a i7 s2720 (2.2GHz), 8GB Ram laptop.
 One important addition: precompiled headers are only supported on
 Windows (my experiment took place on Windows7).  I guess the other
 systems are fast enough without precompiled headers.

 Also, I'm not an expert, but I think that there's a difference for
 release artifacts whether or not you compile with PCH.  I know that the
 chromium project, for example, recommends PCH for debug builds, but for
 final releases, removing PCH is a big part of the optimizations...

 Good to know.  Do you have any pointers?
 -Andre

I don't :(.  I only remember having heard about the performance hit
once, but lack of Googled information on the subjects suggests that I
may be wrong/outdated.

About the chromium project, see this link
https://code.google.com/p/chromium/wiki/WindowsPrecompiledHeaders which
mentions the bit of gospel I mentioned above (by default for
non-official builds) without really explaining why the release build
doesn't use it by default.

Sorry I can't be more helpful,
  Issac

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Re: Dictionary - en_GB - release it?

2014-01-21 Thread Rob Weir
On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 2:24 PM, Marco A.G.Pinto 
marcoagpi...@mail.telepac.pt wrote:

  Hello!

 One week has gone by and only one person replied to the testing e-mail,
 with a +1.



Hi Marco,

Are you maintaining the en-US dictionary as well?

I just received a bug report on Twitter.  I verified it with the en-US
dictionary.  It might happen with other English dictionaries as well.

We have autocorrect configured so it automatically replaces naive with
naïve.   But naïve is not in the spell checking dictionary.  So the
autocorrect leads to a word that is marked as a spelling error!

Regards,

-Rob



 Does this mean I can press the Publish button?

 Also, every month I update the dictionary with around 200-300 new unique
 words (we are only in half of January and the planned February release
 already has near 300 new unique words, which means that this month I worked
 harder).

 Should I update Apache's dictionary every month or only at a certain pace?
 I update Mozilla's version every month.

 Thanks!

 Kind regards,
Marco A.G.Pinto
  ---


  --



Re: Dictionary - en_GB - release it?

2014-01-21 Thread Marco A.G.Pinto

  
  
Hello Rob,
  
  I am maintaining the "English Dictionaries" which includes all of
  them, but I am only improving the en_GB so far.
  
  I was able to improve the en_GB because I grabbed it from Mozilla,
  and British English is my second tongue.
  
  I believe all the others that come in the AOO are obfuscated 
  
  Maybe someone could do the same for en_US? Grab from Mozilla?
  Can't the original en_US creator provide a clean text one?
  
  That way someone could improve it as well using my tool "Proofing
  Tool GUI" and then I could add it to the OXT.
  
  PS-I searched for "naïve" and it is in the en_GB dictionary.
  So, no problem for British English.
  
  Kind regards,
    Marco A.G.Pinto
      ---




  
On 21/01/2014 13:13, Rob Weir wrote:

  
Hi Marco, 
  
  Are you maintaining the en-US dictionary as well?
  

I just received a bug report on Twitter.  I verified it
  with the en-US dictionary.  It might happen with other
  English dictionaries as well.
  

We have autocorrect configured so it automatically
  replaces "naive" with "naïve".   But "naïve" is not in the
  spell checking dictionary.  So the autocorrect leads to a
  word that is marked as a spelling error!
  

Regards,
  

-Rob

  

  



-- 
  
  



Re: [DISCUSS] Certification with LayUp - Open Office

2014-01-21 Thread Rob Weir
On Tue, Jan 21, 2014 at 12:05 AM, Sheran Corera sherancor...@gmail.com wrote:
 Great! Thanks for the feedback.

 I had a discussion with our integration team, we would be happy to
 contribute the effort required to create a course and provide an instance of
 the platform - give it free of charge to users.

 However, we would like to brand this as Apache Open Office Training
 Academy or similar - can we do this (with explicit permission from AOO as
 per trademark policy) given that this is a community support effort, with
 material offered for free, and does not violate ALv2?


Hi Sheran,

You can read the official trademark policy for Apache here:

http://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/

Note that some things (nominative use) require no further
permission.  Beyond that you would need to request permission from the
PMC.  In general we avoid using trademarks as adjectives.  So
Training Academy for Apache OpenOffice might be OK, but not Apache
OpenOffice Training Academy.  The key is to make it clear what the
source of the service is.

Regards,

-Rob


 Regards,
 Sheran


 On Tue, Jan 21, 2014 at 2:25 AM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote:

 On Mon, Jan 20, 2014 at 2:59 PM, Sheran Corera sherancor...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  Rob / Jani and all,
 
  What we would like to do, is to take this forward in partnership with
  Open
  Office in an official manner and run some courses on a rev-share or
  similar
  so that we can put effort into doing this as well and sell training to
  users together with Open Office.
 
  Since this would then be partly a commercial effort, does this require
  us
  to send a formal proposal to the pmc or go into a vote or is there a
  seperate process for this?
 

 It might be worth giving a high-level description of what you had in
 mind, without spending too much effort and asking for PMC feedback.
 But as Jan mentioned, the ASF is a US-based non-profit corporation.
 So there are restrictions on what kinds of commercial partnerships we
 can engage in.   In particular I don't think we could be involved in
 selling training.

 Would it be interesting to have a free OpenOffice course that also is
 effective as a showcase of the LayUp platform?  That would fit better
 with our status and mission.

 Regards,

 -Rob


  Please let me know.
 
  Thanks,
  Sheran
  On Jan 20, 2014 7:43 PM, Isuru Hewavitharana 
  isuru.hewavithar...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  Sheran / Rob,
 
  I have changed the logo and text as requested. Please do a cache
  refresh
  (CTRL + F5) and retry.
 
  Cheers!
  Isuru
 
 
  On Mon, Jan 20, 2014 at 7:35 PM, Sheran Corera sherancor...@gmail.com
  wrote:
 
   Thanks Rob,
  
   As per the system, you can configure what courses you want to keep
   open /
   closed / work according to the point system, so you can run say 3
  courses,
   for beginners, intermediate, advanced so each user can select which
   level
   to participate in.
  
   If it is felt that the users need validation (an assessment to gauge
  their
   skill level) prior to selecting which course they should take, that
   can
   integrated with ease as well from the back-end.
  
   A colleague, Isuru is on copy, he will change the logo asap in order
   to
  not
   violate any trademark policies.
  
   Regards,
   Sheran
  
  
   On Mon, Jan 20, 2014 at 7:12 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote:
  
On Mon, Jan 20, 2014 at 8:06 AM, Sheran Corera
sherancor...@gmail.com
  
wrote:
 Re-posting to dev-list from documentation.

 Hi All,

 Going through the Open Office documentation, I noticed the huge
  effort
 taken on content creation and maintenance in each of the
 different
 Wikishttp://www.openoffice.org/documentation/ and
 a separate effort to certify users via the certification
 projecthttp://www.openoffice.org/certification/ (which
 is really great!).

 At LayUp http://www.getlayup.com/?source=oa, we're working on
   building
 something similar (a gamified, retention oriented training and
 certification platform targeted entirely at software products)
 and we
would
 like to help take the online certification aspect to the next
 level
  and
 setup a live demo.

 I've setup an online demo of what such a system could look like
 for
   Open
 Office

 URL - *Open Office Demo - LayUP
 http://www.getlayup.com/layup/index.php?site=demo2*

 The login credentials for *user *and *admin *are as follows -

 *Username* - user
 *Password *- demo

 *Username *- admin
 *Password *- demo

 We've taken a lot of effort into setting this up, so instead of
 just
 spamming it, we would appreciate if someone can have a look and
 guide
   us
on
 how we can take this forward.

   
I took a quick look.  I like the platform, nice and clear, easy to
use.  I think new users would like this.
   
From a learning perspective it might be worth having an 

Re: Are there any legal repercussions for banning users from mailing lists?

2014-01-21 Thread Andrew Douglas Pitonyak

Items to ponder:

1. Anyone can sue anyone any time they desire for anything, but, a judge 
can throw it out and a lawyer will likely not take the case unless they 
believe that they will win money or the person must be willing to pay 
for the service.


2. Filing nuisance law suites is usually done by people who have a law 
background or have spent a lot of time learning the system because a 
lawyer will usually not take the case and they must have sufficient time 
to file a complaint that they are able to do without external help from 
a lawyer.


3. The problem is, if they do take you to court and it makes it to 
court, if no one shows up, then they win by default.


4. I am not a lawyer, but, I think that even if I have a disability, I 
will still be kicked out of an establishment if I cause trouble. I knew 
a guy who was very demanding because of his disability and I was with 
him when he was kicked out of a restaurant because he caused a huge 
scene. The other people applauded the manager. None of this was related 
to his disability, he was just rude, which did not prevent him from 
claiming otherwise.


I am not aware of a disability that causes people to post unrelated 
rude messages.


On 01/20/2014 11:27 AM, Rob Weir wrote:

We (Apache OpenOffice) recently had a user subscribe our users mailing
list (500+ subscribers), and cause general disruption:

1) Many posts (20+) in a short period of time

2) Posts were off topic

3) She attacked list moderators and other members of the list

4) She threatened that she would report anyone who flamed her to their
ISP or the Department of Justice for hate crimes.  I was cc'ed on one
email where she did exactly that to another subscriber of the mailing
list.


I would be inclined to contact her ISP and complain about harassment if 
she has this pattern.


Said person never asked a single question regarding the use of
OpenOffice, which is the purpose of the users mailing list.

We had several complaints from other users, and several unsubscribed
because they could not deal with the disruption.  As list moderator I
banned her.

Then she started flooding our private mailing list, claiming that we
were violating her civil rights, violating the Americans with
Disabilities Act, etc., because we banned her.  Reading between the
lines it sounds like she is claiming the mailing list is a place of
public accommodation and her disability (which seems to be form of
ADHD) prevents her from controlling her conduct on the mailing list.

We then banned her from mailing to the private list as well.  But now
she has started using a new email address, sending more complaints and
threatening to report us to the Justice Department in two weeks if we
don't allow her back on the users list.

PMC members are split on whether to ignore her, engage her, ban her, etc.

Note:  she has not requested any specific accommodation.


She causes others to leave. She creates new email addresses so that she 
can continue the abuse. Sounds like a stalker.




In my most-recent note to her I wrote:

If you do have a technical question about Apache OpenOffice, I want to
make sure you are aware that there are several other avenues for
support described here:

http://www.openoffice.org/support/

If you get stuck on any of those support options, feel free to send me
a note directly and I, acting as your personal support concierge, will
point you in the right direction and try to accommodate any special
needs.

So no one can accuse us of not making a good faith to accommodate her.
  But this has not helped.

Any thoughts on this?  Is there any risk to the ASF or our volunteers
in moderating mailing lists or banning disruptive users?

Regards,

-Rob

I certainly don't want to be bothered by her posts.

--
Andrew Pitonyak
My Macro Document: http://www.pitonyak.org/AndrewMacro.odt
Info:  http://www.pitonyak.org/oo.php


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Can't open Documents as saying

2014-01-21 Thread paulinemorphew

Hello

Please could you help?

I have rang talk talk and they have given me you email address.

I can't open any documents as it is saying


Open Office.org.3.4.1

Either another instance of Open Office.org is accessing your personal 
settings or your personal settings are locked. Simultaneous access can 
lead to inconsistencies in your personal settings. Before continuing 
you should ensure user close Open Office on host

Do you really want to continue. YES or NO

I can you the icon at the bottom of screen and when I right click a 
small window above states Close Window which I have done and then 
icon disappears yet I still get the above message.


I have deleted which I think was open but to no avail.


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Re: Reporting a problem with the OpenOffice website

2014-01-21 Thread Roberto Galoppini
2014/1/21 Matt mrsyt...@gmail.com

 Right Max.

 It did not come from openoffice or sourceforge.  It was from another
 site.  The download was called Install Converter.   A name that sound
 like it was ment to fool someone into thinking it was related to the
 download.  I didnt think to save the url or screen shot of it.   I just
 went back to the site again.   The ad was actually on sourceforge and
 not your site.  When you select the download link it sends you to
 sourceforge on a downloading page that says your download will start
 shortly and includes a large space for an ad.   Perhaps I should have
 sent the email to sourceforge.


Hi Matt,

 We are all ears when it comes to remove confusing or misleading ads,
please have a look at our blog post explaining how to notify us about them.
http://sourceforge.net/blog/sourceforge-blockthis-initiative-update/

 Feel free to use my direct contact or this list, if you prefer.

 Thanks,

 Roberto







 On 01/20/2014 03:59 PM, Max Merbald wrote:
 
  Am 20.01.2014 20:27, schrieb Rob Weir:
  On Mon, Jan 20, 2014 at 1:58 PM, Matt mrsyt...@gmail.com wrote:
  I was alarmed last week to find on your download page, a rather large
  advertisement consisting of a big green button labeled download now
  which led you too the installer of some malware from another site.  I
  came across this after my wife asked for help saying she installed
  openoffice from your site but it wasn't to be found on her computer.
  She had already fallen for the bait.  I almost did too as it was very
  hard to distinguish from actual site content the way it was displayed
  with out close examination.
 
  It amazed me that an organizations like yours would allow such
  unscrupulous advertisers to misuse your name like that.  Your own site
  warns of scams by repackagers and unaffiliated download sites but your
  dealings with shady advertising networks on your own site puts the
  users
  of open office in just as much danger.
 
  Hi Matt,
 
  I'm sorry your wife ran into problems when trying to download
  OpenOffice.
 
  The shady advertising network you ran into was Google's, and the
  website was SourceForge's.  Both are reputable companies, I can assure
  you.  But occasionally bad ads do make it in.  We have a way to
  request their removal on a case-by-case basis.
 
  You can read more here:
  https://sourceforge.net/blog/sourceforge-blockthis-initiative-update/
 
  If you have a screenshot and a URL I'd be happy to send that in for
  you.  But I tried right now on the website and I'm not seeing any ads
  which match your description.   Is it possible that your wife
  downloaded from a different website?  We've seen cases where 3rd
  parties have paid for advertisements in search results, and their ads
  appear before our website does.
 
  Regards,
 
  -Rob
 
  -Matt S
 
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  Rob,
 
  it doesn't sound like he got it from sourceforge via Google. He
  wouldn't have got a virus if it had gone that way. You couldn't know
  the actual source because Matt didn't name it.
 
  Actually, these problems about shady sources for OpenOffice combined
  with malware are brought forward to the list every day and I think we
  shouldn't take it too easy. I believe it would be necessary to do some
  research about those distributors so that they could be stopped
  exploiting users who just want to use OpenOffice. After all, those
  malware things could make a bad impression on prospective user who, in
  the end, decide not to use OpenOffice because they believe it
  generally comes with malware or adware.
 
  Don't you agree?
 
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Re: Presentation FOSDEM.

2014-01-21 Thread Oliver-Rainer Wittmann

Hi,

On 21.01.2014 16:03, jan i wrote:

Hi.

What is available for the presenters at FOSDEM ?

Is it enough if I bring the presentation on a USB stick.


Last year we found in the devrooms beamer equipment, but no machine to 
just put in an USB stick in.




I assume (given we are AOO) that I can use our fileformats.


I assume that the one or the other with a corresponding machine will be 
around to bring your presentation on the beamer.


Best regards, Oliver.



rgds
jan I.



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Re: Presentation FOSDEM.

2014-01-21 Thread Andrea Pescetti

jan i wrote:

What is available for the presenters at FOSDEM ?
Is it enough if I bring the presentation on a USB stick.


Sure. A standard projector (with the so-called VGA input) is 
available. You can bring your own laptop, or use mine, or we'll set on a 
common one.



I assume (given we are AOO) that I can use our fileformats.


Of course, ODF is fine, even though organizers will probably ask to make 
slides available in PDF format for archival: so you should avoid 
depending too much on ODF features (animations, ...) that are not 
exported to PDF if possible.


Regards,
  Andrea.

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Re: Presentation FOSDEM.

2014-01-21 Thread Raphael Bircher

Hallo zusammen

Am 21.01.14 18:02, schrieb Andrea Pescetti:

jan i wrote:

What is available for the presenters at FOSDEM ?
Is it enough if I bring the presentation on a USB stick.


Sure. A standard projector (with the so-called VGA input) is 
available. You can bring your own laptop, or use mine, or we'll set on 
a common one.



I assume (given we are AOO) that I can use our fileformats.


Of course, ODF is fine, even though organizers will probably ask to 
make slides available in PDF format for archival: so you should avoid 
depending too much on ODF features (animations, ...) that are not 
exported to PDF if possible.

Do we have a UPDATED Template?

Greetings Raphael


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Re: Compiling solver in cygwin references missing include folder

2014-01-21 Thread Greg Bullock
Thank you, Herbert and Oliver.  Indeed that looks like it will resolve 
the problem.


The About box in Visual Studio 2008 indicated that SP1 was installed for 
.NET Framework 3.5 (and, I assumed, also for Visual Studio 2008), but 
comparing the cl  link version strings with Oliver's showed that mine 
was nonetheless an older version.


I've now installed SP1 from Herbert's link [2], and I confirm that the 
folder /cygdrive/c/Program Files (x86)/Microsoft Visual Studio 
9.0/VC/include now indeed has the file unordered_set.


I'm currently rerunning the build --all.  Will write again if any 
further problems arise.


Regards.
Greg




On 1/21/2014 4:01 AM, Herbert Duerr wrote:

On 21.01.2014 01:28, Greg Bullock wrote:

I'm trying to set up my Windows 7 + cygwin + VSPro2008 system to build
the aoo trunk, with the hope of making some modest contributions to the
project.

The build -all stage gets some ways into the task then gives the
following error message (quoted with some preceding lines for context):


It is build --all, but looking at your log you already ran the right 
command.



[...]
Can someone advise how to work around this?  Do I need to somehow
specify an STL path in the configure ... step?  Or do I need to give a
path to the boost library?  Or did I miss a warning somewhere?

My compiler resides at /cygdrive/c/Program Files (x86)/Microsoft Visual
Studio 9.0/VC/bin, and the folder
/cygdrive/c/Program Files (x86)/Microsoft Visual Studio 9.0/VC/include
has its own hash_set file, but no unordered_set file.


Does your MSVC2008 have the service pack [1]? If not then please get 
SP1 from [2] and install it.
[1] 
http://blogs.msdn.com/b/vcblog/archive/2008/08/11/tr1-fixes-in-vc9-sp1.aspx

[2] http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=10986


Happy to supply any additional information that may help.


Hope that helps.

Herbert

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Re: First look at www.openoffice.org accesibility

2014-01-21 Thread Marcus (OOo)

Am 01/19/2014 01:43 AM, schrieb Marcus (OOo):

Am 01/16/2014 12:17 AM, schrieb Dave Fisher:


On Jan 14, 2014, at 3:03 PM, Marcus (OOo) wrote:


Am 01/14/2014 06:53 PM, schrieb Rob Weir:

On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 4:09 PM, Marcus (OOo)marcus.m...@wtnet.de
wrote:

Am 01/13/2014 07:52 PM, schrieb Rob Weir:


I've been scanning pages on our website to see what kinds of A11Y
issues we should take care off. I'm concentrated initially on issues
on our most popular pages as well as issues on the template, since
the
template generates the repeated headers/footers nad navigation on
every page. We'll get more 'bang for the buck' if we can get the
template perfect.

Some of the kinds of issues I'm seeing:

1) The site-search button and input field in the upper right of the
template. These were not coordinated in the best way. Since there is
no associated label for the input field, I added a title attribute,
so what we have now looks like this:

div class=topsrchbox
input name=resultsPerPage value=40 type=hidden/
input name=q id=query type=text title=search query/
input name=Button value=search type=submit
class=topsrchbutton/
/div



That means now the screen reader reads the title and converts it as
voice
output, right?



Yes, that's my understanding. When we view the page this is clear
from the visual context: a text input next to a button labeled
search is for the search query. But the context is not always clear
with a screen reader so we need to make it explicit.




2) The home page usesh2 headers to mark the main options on the
page, e.g., I want to download OpenOffice. But there is noh1.
The doc I read said this inconsistency can confuse navigation via a
screen reader. One option might be to make these all beh1 and then
adjust the CSS accordingly. Or maybe they should be anul list?
I have no made any fix here yet.



Simply insert a h1 headline, like:

h1How can OpenOffice help you?/h1

However, if there is no need for one, then a hidden h1 could help
to solve
the confusion but also keep the current webpage conent and style.

The hidden attribute seems to look like the best option but maybe
not as
it seems not to work in MS IE. Could someone test this?

h1 hiddenHow can OpenOffice help you/h1



Theh1 would be the parent of all theh2's, including Recent blog
posts. So not just the left column. A hiddenh1 might stop the
warning message, but I'm to sure it really fixes the problem. But
this might be the lesser of the problems. At least we're not
inconsistent in our headers, e.g., having anh2 under anh3 or
something like that.



Or maybe just an empty h1 if this doesn't destroy the layout, like:

h1/h1


A h1 tag would create a headline with CSS blue box styling - like you
can see here:
http://www.openoffice.org/download/checksums.html

Even with an empty h1 tag the blue box would be visible. So, if we
decide to insert a h1 tag, then with text.


You could turn off style with a tag in the h1.


Sure, of course. I just hadn't the mood and time to dig into the code
what it is.

I've added a h1 tag with no text and disabled styles


3) For each of the choices we seem to have two hyperlinks going to
the
same place:

div class=action-help
div class=action-text action-link
h2a href=/support/I need help with my OpenOffice/a/h2
pa href=/support/Help is at hand whenever you need
it./a/p
/div
/div

This repetition makes navigation via screen readers unnecessarily
chatty. Is there some way we can eliminate the redundant links?



I don't think so. Otherwise we would give up the link in the
headline or the
text. And the headline and text should have different text formatting,
right?

Could this help to get enough differentiation?


h2a href=/support/I need help with my OpenOffice/a/h2
pa href=support/index.htmlHelp is at hand whenever you need
it./a/p



That might silence the warning message, but the problem is still
there. The issue is someone navigating by keyboard will see every
link twice in a row. So it is a matter of excess noise on the page.

I wonder if it would be better to have the image and theh2 be the
live links, and not link the smaller long description? Then we might
be able to put the image and the text all in onea?


This seems to help and also produces no HTML error (verified via W3C
HTML validator):

div class=action-info
div class=action-text action-link
a href=/why/h2I want to learn more about OpenOffice/h2
pWhat is Apache OpenOffice? And why should I use it?/p/a
/div
/div

However, the text is now displayed in light-grey and doesn't change
anymore when moving the mouse over it (compare with the other texts).
So, some further CSS hacks are necessary. Up to now I haven't found
the root cause.


css needs to follow order so h2.a and p.a styles need to be copied
into a.h2 and a.p styles - this may be tedious. That depends on the
cascade.


The order is important? Really? Didn't know this.

OK, fixed now:

http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/index.html


In the meantime it's already online on www.oo.o. 

Re: First look at www.openoffice.org accesibility

2014-01-21 Thread Rob Weir
On Tue, Jan 21, 2014 at 4:09 PM, Marcus (OOo) marcus.m...@wtnet.de wrote:



 In the meantime it's already online on www.oo.o. I've added a h1 tag and
 fixed the double-link problem.

 @Rob:
 Please can you test if this is now OK in the screen reader?

 Thanks



Here's the tool I used to check:

http://wave.webaim.org

The duplicate links problem is gone.  That's good news.

The error about the missing h1 is gone.  But now it gives an error
for the h1 with no content.

I wonder whether the real solution here is to make those main
options into h1's and update the CSS accordingly?  If we use a
specific class for those headers we won't conflict with the h1's on
other pages, which are styled differently.

The only other error we have on the home page (and the other templated
pages) is the lack of the language identifier, and it sounds like Dave
had a good solution there.

Regards,

-RobboR

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RE: EXTERNAL: Re: Building comphelper

2014-01-21 Thread Steele, Raymond
Thanks for the information Herbert. We continued looking at this today, but we 
still have not determined the reason it is crashing. The application crashes at 
SidebarController::notifyContextChangeEvent in SidebarController.cxx at 
maRequestedContext =Context {...}. Our debugger says that eEvent is of the 
value ERROR.

Raymond 

-Original Message-
From: Herbert Duerr [mailto:h...@apache.org] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2014 5:11 AM
To: dev@openoffice.apache.org
Cc: Meffe, David K; Steele, Raymond
Subject: Re: EXTERNAL: Re: Building comphelper

Hi David,

 I just wanted to share the basics of what I have found so far. I still have 
 no idea on how to solve the issue.  Any help would be great!

 Observed Behaviour
 1.OpenOffice starts, the splash screen with logo appears and then closes 
 replaced with the full application window and choices for specific OpenOffice 
 projects.
 2.Selecting either the Word or Spreadsheet project causes a segmentation 
 fault and closes the application.
 3.Following the start of the application with the debugger, we can see 
 the SidebarController is created in a first pass without error (known because 
 first time to this stop point does not error).
 4.As the process continues, the SidebarController constructor is called a 
 second time (unknown why, but could be understood with more familiarity with 
 the system).
 5.The failure doesn't appear in the constructor, but the trace follows 
 down SidebarController constructor call of WeakReferenceSidebarController 
 WeakController (this);
 6.This template definition for WeakController uses 
 ReferenceTemplate::Refrence( interface_type *pInterface) as its definition 
 in ::com::sun::star::uno::Reference.hxx.
 7.The function will try to convert the pInterface parameter to a 
 XInterface type called _pInterface.
 8.If it succeeds in converting the pInterface to _pInterface then the 
 function will try to acquire a new reference.
 9.Assumption: Creating this new reference calls 
 SidebarController::notifyContextChangeEvent with a corrupt or bad rEvent. 
 This assumption is based on the stack where the immediate next routine after 
 the Reference function call is the notifyContextChangeEvent, also while 
 following along in the debugger, the rEvent parameter at this point is 
 already corrupted with the value ERROR stored in the structure.
 10.   It is later after the notifyContextChangeEvent calls Context and then 
 ustring that the segmentation fault occurs, but I believe the error located 
 in rEvent is what causes this later problem.

I haven't fully caught up with everything, but if I had to debug this I'd watch 
out for exceptions thrown in step 5 and later. In gdb I'd use the command
catch throw
to find the throwing code. Is there a similar facility in Solaris Studio?

Herbert

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Building module bean: jawt.lib apparently not found

2014-01-21 Thread Greg Bullock
Plodding along  trying to set up my Windows 7 + cygwin + VSPro2008 
system to build the aoo trunk, the build --all stage gives an error in 
building the module bean (see log snippet below).


It seems the jawt.lib file is not found, leading to an unresolved external.

The call to configure included the option

--with-jdk-home=/cygdrive/c/Program Files/Java/jdk1.7.0_51

Apparently, that's insufficient, yes?  What else do I need to supply?

Regards.
Greg




=
Building module bean
=

Entering /cygdrive/h/openoffice/main/bean/native/win32

Making:officebean.dll
Microsoft (R) Windows (R) Resource Compiler Version 6.1.7600.16385
Copyright (C) Microsoft Corporation.  All rights reserved.

Microsoft (R) Incremental Linker Version 9.00.30729.01
Copyright (C) Microsoft Corporation.  All rights reserved.

/MAP /OPT:NOREF -safeseh -nxcompat -dynamicbase -NODEFAULTLIB -RELEASE 
-DEBUG -INCREMENTAL:NO /SUBSYSTEM:CONSOLE /DLL 
-out:../../wntmsci12.pro/bin/officebean.dll 
-map:../../wntmsci12.pro/misc/officebean.map 
-def:../../wntmsci12.pro/misc/officebean.def 
-implib:../../wntmsci12.pro/lib/iofficebean_t1.lib 
../../wntmsci12.pro/slo/officebean_version.obj 
../../wntmsci12.pro/slb/officebean.lib jawt.lib isal.lib msvcrt.lib 
msvcprt.lib uwinapi.lib kernel32.lib user32.lib oldnames.lib 
../../wntmsci12.pro/misc/officebean.res
   Creating library ../../wntmsci12.pro/lib/iofficebean_t1.lib and 
object ../../wntmsci12.pro/lib/iofficebean_t1.exp
officebean.lib(com_sun_star_comp_beans_LocalOfficeWindow.obj) : error 
LNK2019: unresolved external symbol __imp__JAWT_GetAWT@8 referenced in 
function _Java_com_sun_star_comp_beans_LocalOfficeWindow_getNativeWindow@8
../../wntmsci12.pro/bin/officebean.dll : fatal error LNK1120: 1 
unresolved externals

dmake:  Error code 96, while making '../../wntmsci12.pro/bin/officebean.dll'

1 module(s):
bean
need(s) to be rebuilt

Reason(s):

ERROR: error 65280 occurred while making 
/cygdrive/h/openoffice/main/bean/native/win32


When you have fixed the errors in that module you can resume the build 
by running:


build --all:bean



SOE (Arrow Styles) file submission mechanism

2014-01-21 Thread l
Hello...

I've created numerous line ends (aka Arrow Styles) that I'd like to 
contribute.  However, there's no method on the website for submitting this file 
type (SOE).

I could submit as a template that downloaders could then save as a text file 
with the right filename extension, I suppose.  Seems unfortunately inelegant, 
though.

A Forum moderator asked about submitting as an extension.  But arrow styles 
aren't a programmatic feature, nor even a GUI enhancement like a gallery 
addition.  They're just a text file (XML, as you prob. know).  And the file 
doesn't go in one of the standard user directories anyway.

Any ideas for a solution (or remote possibility of expanding submission 
functionality)?


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Re: SOE (Arrow Styles) file submission mechanism

2014-01-21 Thread Rob Weir
On Tue, Jan 21, 2014 at 8:29 PM, l tmlin...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Hello...

 I've created numerous line ends (aka Arrow Styles) that I'd like to 
 contribute.  However, there's no method on the website for submitting this 
 file type (SOE).

 I could submit as a template that downloaders could then save as a text file 
 with the right filename extension, I suppose.  Seems unfortunately inelegant, 
 though.

 A Forum moderator asked about submitting as an extension.  But arrow styles 
 aren't a programmatic feature, nor even a GUI enhancement like a gallery 
 addition.  They're just a text file (XML, as you prob. know).  And the file 
 doesn't go in one of the standard user directories anyway.

 Any ideas for a solution (or remote possibility of expanding submission 
 functionality)?


You can create an issue in Bugzilla, attach the files there, and then
mark the issue type as a 'PATCH.  That will allow the developers to
review it.

Thanks!

-Rob



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Re: First look at www.openoffice.org accesibility

2014-01-21 Thread Nancy K
I don't know if any of these links will help - 

Invisible content just for screen reader users:
http://webaim.org/techniques/css/invisiblecontent/#techniques

Cynthia Says for Section 508/WCAG2.0 (A thru AAA) accessibility (enter the url 
online):
http://www.cynthiasays.com/?

Colorblind tests (enter url online):
http://colorfilter.wickline.org/

html5 validator: 
html5.validator.nu


Nancy

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 From: Rob Weir apa...@robweir.com
To: dev@openoffice.apache.org dev@openoffice.apache.org 
Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2014 1:39 PM
Subject: Re: First look at www.openoffice.org accesibility
 

On Tue, Jan 21, 2014 at 4:09 PM, Marcus (OOo) marcus.m...@wtnet.de wrote:



 In the meantime it's already online on www.oo.o. I've added a h1 tag and
 fixed the double-link problem.

 @Rob:
 Please can you test if this is now OK in the screen reader?

 Thanks



Here's the tool I used to check:

http://wave.webaim.org

The duplicate links problem is gone.  That's good news.

The error about the missing h1 is gone.  But now it gives an error
for the h1 with no content.

I wonder whether the real solution here is to make those main
options into h1's and update the CSS accordingly?  If we use a
specific class for those headers we won't conflict with the h1's on
other pages, which are styled differently.

The only other error we have on the home page (and the other templated
pages) is the lack of the language identifier, and it sounds like Dave
had a good solution there.

Regards,

-RobboR


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Re: First look at www.openoffice.org accesibility

2014-01-21 Thread Rob Weir
On Tue, Jan 21, 2014 at 9:50 PM, Nancy K nancythirt...@yahoo.com wrote:
 I don't know if any of these links will help -

 Invisible content just for screen reader users:
 http://webaim.org/techniques/css/invisiblecontent/#techniques


Hmmm that might be the way to do it.  Have the h1 as Marcus did
it, but give it text that a screen reader will see, like What do you
want to do today? or something that would make sense as the parent of
the home page options.  But then use CSS to hide the text from the
design.  That's probably better than having an empty h1.

Thanks!

-Rob

 Cynthia Says for Section 508/WCAG2.0 (A thru AAA) accessibility (enter the 
 url online):
 http://www.cynthiasays.com/?

 Colorblind tests (enter url online):
 http://colorfilter.wickline.org/

 html5 validator:
 html5.validator.nu


 Nancy

  Nancy  Web Design
 Free 24 hour pass to lynda.com.
 Video courses on SEO, CMS,
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  From: Rob Weir apa...@robweir.com
 To: dev@openoffice.apache.org dev@openoffice.apache.org
 Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2014 1:39 PM
 Subject: Re: First look at www.openoffice.org accesibility


 On Tue, Jan 21, 2014 at 4:09 PM, Marcus (OOo) marcus.m...@wtnet.de wrote:



 In the meantime it's already online on www.oo.o. I've added a h1 tag and
 fixed the double-link problem.

 @Rob:
 Please can you test if this is now OK in the screen reader?

 Thanks



 Here's the tool I used to check:

 http://wave.webaim.org

 The duplicate links problem is gone.  That's good news.

 The error about the missing h1 is gone.  But now it gives an error
 for the h1 with no content.

 I wonder whether the real solution here is to make those main
 options into h1's and update the CSS accordingly?  If we use a
 specific class for those headers we won't conflict with the h1's on
 other pages, which are styled differently.

 The only other error we have on the home page (and the other templated
 pages) is the lack of the language identifier, and it sounds like Dave
 had a good solution there.

 Regards,

 -RobboR


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