Re: [PROPOSAL] Rejecting Quick Office Pro messages
Marcus wrote: In general +1. But I would like to see the complete text that should be used as general message when rejecting mails. @Andrea: Can you state this in a separate paragraph? Something like http://markmail.org/message/vsonyy6jhnrgn7uq (with the obvious minor adjustments): --- That app claims to come from OpenOffice, but this is not true. It is totally unrelated to the OpenOffice project http://openoffice.org ; please report the app to the App Store. And of course we can't help you since this mailing list is for volunteer support for OpenOffice users, sorry. --- And it shouldn't be limited to users@ but should be used for all - also for dev@. So far we've seen the problem on the users@ list only, but I agree to apply it to dev@ too (messages will be even more off-topic here). Other solutions, like the redirect based on the HTTP referrer, can proceed in parallel, and while they are probably overkill for this case they are a powerful tool which would be nice to have. Regards, Andrea. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
AW: Re: Reporting broken download link
Thanks very much. That was quick indeed. I'll try again tomorrow. All the best andrea Von meinem drahtlosen BlackBerry® Handheld gesendet
Re: HELP!!
Hi, nice to hear that we were of help to you. As I said, Rory and I seem to have different approaches to helping people and it's good to hear that we didn't confuse you too much. I wish you good luck and many good experiences with your further use of OpenOffice! btw. did anyone read my remark about too many auto things enabled by default? Max Am 01.12.2014 um 23:53 schrieb jsic...@windstream.net: Well actually I'm a she who spent more than a decade doing analyses of engineering proposals of companies like Duke power Co, and spelling out the assumptions and concepts in language that an interested but non-technical person could understand. That was my intro to computers, back in the days of lotus and less helpful auto editing. [In my school days, slide rules reigned.] I am focused on subject matter content, and would be happy to use the same program with no more auto help for the rest of my days -- I can show what I need to show, if I'm not sabotaged by too much helpful interference that moves my stuff around. And while I personally don't want to be bothered by all the new automated stuff, the fact is that automated systems have provided great improvements. For example, the load carrying capabilities of the existing conductors in the electric grid, because power can be shut off or or re-routed in nanoseconds to prevent ground fault overload. -- I just don't need the jolt of all that while I am trying to write a string of equalities to illustrate the commutative law for a grade 4 student. So carry on -- I just had a much better experience with the next worksheet. Thanks to you both. On Monday, December 1, 2014 12:39 PM, Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie wrote: On Mon, 01 Dec 2014 19:20:27 +0100 Max Merbald max.merb...@gmx.de wrote: Actually it's Format - AutoCorrect - AutoCorrect Options. Remove the checks from the little boxes next to Autonumbering and others which may have bothered you. It' not got anything to do with the help menu. Max Am 12/1/2014 um 7:08 PM schrieb Rory O'Farrell: On Mon, 1 Dec 2014 09:38:23 -0600 jsic...@windstream.net wrote: I need to avoid TMI that send my 72 year old brain into melt down!!! [My name is NOT Beatrice!!] I work with math students at elementary level -- grades 3 to pre-calculus, and often NEED to write up a custom work sheet. HOW DO I KILL AUTO NUMBERING and auto formatting? I am not doing 500 pages that need help with some esoteric insert or search. I just want numbers and paragraphs to stay WERE I PUT THEM and not mover to some spot where the notation does NOT belong!!! Would you believe that I can't see how to do this amongst all your info? How long would it take me to wade through volumes of stuff I do not want or need to get to this You yunguns drive us old folks to the DT's!! [Do you remember what that is?] In OpenOffice use /Help /OpenOffice Help, Index tab, Numbering. He claimed he couldn't find any help on the subject - I directed him to it, My practice is always to direct a querist to the source of relevant information, so that he can learn and sort the problem out for himself. He is, after all, a teacher, and should appreciate being directed to information. -- Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: [PROPOSAL] Rejecting Quick Office Pro messages
On 3 Dec 2014, at 9:15 am, Louis Suárez-Potts lui...@gmail.com wrote: On 02 Dec2014, at 21:05, jonathon toki.kant...@gmail.com wrote: On 03/12/14 00:01, Louis Suárez-Potts wrote: The ® name for them is “Quickoffice®-Pro”. That is the name of the software. I've seen three or four different names for the vendor. Who then is getting this money? Scammers. Well, maybe. Recall that Google owns Quickoffice. They distribute their incorporated version as Google Docs, even for iOS. It is possible that the Lee Elman I’ve contacted via LinkedIn is a “scammer.” But also perhaps not. Apple’s iTunes Store is, as I noted, hardly the garden of sanity one might hope to find. I’m willing to bet a lot of money that this is a scammer. There are literally hundreds of rip-off apps on the app store re-using common names, some even being exact copies of other apps which are stripped of their DRM and re-signed using the scammer’s certificate. I myself have been burnt by this, both by people selling copies of UX Write under different names, and also using the UX Write name to sell a different app (which was a copy of Dataviz’s Documents to Go). Apple don’t care. You have to put in a *lot* of effort for them to take down or fix a case of infringement (in my case this meant personally meeting with app store representatives at WWDC). Usually they’ll just refer you to their legal department, who will then ask you to resolve the issue directly with the developer. And in this case it’s not even the OpenOffice trademark being violated - IANAL, but I would assume an incorrect link wouldn’t qualify. Probably the only viable way to get it changed is to submit a request to http://www.apple.com/legal/internet-services/itunes/appstorenotices/ http://www.apple.com/legal/internet-services/itunes/appstorenotices/ and with luck they will give you the email address of the person who uploaded it. Then that person can be contacted and asked to change the link (which shouldn’t make any difference to them as they can continue to make money off of the QuickOffice trademark). The actual trademark violation is a separate issue, and one for Google/Apple to deal with. -- Dr. Peter M. Kelly kelly...@gmail.com http://www.kellypmk.net/ PGP key: http://www.kellypmk.net/pgp-key http://www.kellypmk.net/pgp-key (fingerprint 5435 6718 59F0 DD1F BFA0 5E46 2523 BAA1 44AE 2966)
Re: [PROPOSAL] Rejecting Quick Office Pro messages
On Tue, Dec 2, 2014 at 11:23 PM, Kay Schenk kay.sch...@gmail.com wrote: I think we should be contacting Quick Office Pro about changing their support information if we haven't already. I just spoke with the owner of the Apple developer account for the app. He tells me it had been used by a subcontractor, that it was unrelated to his real business (online TV) and that he would immediately remove the app from the iTunes store now he's seen what they did. S.
Re: [PROPOSAL] Rejecting Quick Office Pro messages
+1 and +1 on Kay's idea. 2014-12-03 0:23 GMT+01:00 Kay Schenk kay.sch...@gmail.com: On 12/02/2014 02:29 PM, Andrea Pescetti wrote: There's an app for Apple devices called Quick Office Pro. It is totally unrelated to OpenOffice project and code. A link to it is https://itunes.apple.com/gb/app/quickoffice-pro/id889011512?mt=8 They link to http://openoffice.org for user support. This results in many off-topic requests to the users list and in damage for the OpenOffice reputation; also, the app is not free, so they ask for refund and confuse our users. (We are trying, by the way, to get that app removed from the store, but it's a parallel course of action). Moderators on the users list have been considering to reject messages related to Quick Office Pro and to accompany rejection with a message explaining that OpenOffice has nothing (at a project level or code level) to do with Quick Office Pro, that the Quick Office Pro developers are abusing our support channels and that users should report the app to the Store where they bought it. Since there are concerns that the power to decide what to reject can be too subjective, I'm asking that we (subject to lazy consensus) agree that Quick Office Pro posts can be rejected with the explanation note described above. This will get irrelevant messages out of the list and avoid dangerous misunderstandings: I've personally replied to several such posts and I've seen other users get confused and believe that the reports applied to OpenOffice instead of Quick Office Pro, thus leading to even more confusion. A well-written rejection notice can be much more effective. If you have very, very valid concerns against this please speak up; otherwise I recommend that you realize that we virtually anything else is more important than Quick Office Pro, so if you, unlike me, have a lot of free time, you can spend it in more productive ways! Regards, Andrea. +1 on this proposal. And... I think we should be contacting Quick Office Pro about changing their support information if we haven't already. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org -- - MzK One must still have chaos in oneself to be able to give birth to a dancing star. -- Friedrich Nietzsche - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
