Re: [INFRA] can''t access our buildbot config file

2014-12-12 Thread Kay Schenk
On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 1:28 PM, Kay Schenk kay.sch...@gmail.com wrote:



 On 12/11/2014 11:59 AM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote:
  I was able to see it in my browser (IE11 on Windows 8.1) after logging
 in with my committer ID and password.  That got me read access. I didn't
 try checking it out in SVN.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Kay Schenk [mailto:kay.sch...@gmail.com]
  Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2014 11:11
  To: OOo Apache
  Subject: [INFRA] can''t access our buildbot config file
 
  All AOO committers should have access to our buildbot config file --
 
 
 https://svn.apache.org/repos/infra/infrastructure/buildbot/aegis/buildmaster/master1/projects/openofficeorg.conf
 
  and I did until the svn issues recently.
 
  Could someone else confirm this problem before I report it?
 
  Thanks.
 

 Thanks. I seem to have been disallowed even to connect for some reason.
 :(

 OK, I'll look further.


FYI on this...

all good as of this am. I suspect network gear issues, now resolved.



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Re: CentOS build box.

2014-12-12 Thread Kay Schenk


On 12/10/2014 03:35 PM, jan i wrote:
 On Wednesday, December 10, 2014, Kay Schenk kay.sch...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 On 12/09/2014 08:31 AM, jan i wrote:
 Hi

 FYI, in case you have not noticed. INFRA-8768 (centOS buildbot for AOO)
 took a huge jump today, and are very near completion. This was done by
 the
 infra Contractors.

 Time to find somebody, that will install the AOO specific buildbot parts.

 rgds
 jan i.


 Thanks for the update. Can we get a status update on the 32-bit CentOS 5
 VM?
 
 there are no open jira for AOO buildbots, so it is not being worked on. I
 believe That I said this earlier. I would strongly recommend to get the
 centos 64 and the mac installed before requesting additinal resources.
 
 as I wrote in an earlier mail we (AOO) had the chance to do all these
 special platforms as vm on tethys, but there was no interest at that time.
 
 rgds
 jan i
 

OK. I missed the implications of the previous post.

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Re: Java 32

2014-12-12 Thread Kay Schenk


On 12/11/2014 12:37 PM, Marcus wrote:
 Am 12/11/2014 04:58 PM, schrieb Dennis E. Hamilton:
 +1 to Andreas.  Sounds like a plan.

 There seems to be some disagreement on what (3), the dialog message,
 should be.  It is likely that should be agreed first, since (1) will
 depend on it.  That there are only possible mismatches on x64
 Windows/Mac operating systems (or any others that run both x86 and x64
 binaries) needs to be clear.  Not in the message.  I don't see making
 the message even more complicated about lore that will be even more
 confusing to casual users.

 For (1), the java.html page, I think we can address the concern by
 Andreas Säger by keeping the java.html page simple and providing
 progressive disclosure of specific details on supplementary pages if
 necessary.  That means more page-translation work, so I suggest that
 java.html be kept straightforward and as simple as possible (but no
 simpler, of course, and definitely accurate) first.
 
 OK, then first a developer has to sort this out before we can go on.
 For me it's fine.
 
 Marcus
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Andrea Pescetti [mailto:pesce...@apache.org]
 Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2014 00:49
 To: dev@openoffice.apache.org
 Subject: Re: Java 32

 [ ... ]

 My suggestion (can be executed as a team, not necessarily by one person):

 1. Find a proper wording for
 http://www.openoffice.org/download/common/java.html

The crux of this problem is that Windows AOO is 32 bit and therefore
requires a 32-bit jvm. I will change java.html to note this.


 2. Create a link www.openoffice.org/java pointing at it

 3. Find a short (short!) text for the dialog box, sending the people to
 www.openoffice.org/java for any details (including 32 and 64-bit
 systems); I don't know if links are supported, but the short URL at 2
 should take care of it

 4. Place #3 in form of a patch in Bugzilla and send the number here (and
 if the patch comes from someone who is not one of the usual code
 committers, even better)

 5. At that point it will be easy for people who have their own build
 tree to check the patch before we get it in, so don't worry about this.
 
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RE: Signing AOO 4.1.1 (was RE: Budapest and thereafter)

2014-12-12 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
It appears that running SignTool on an .exe is deceptively simple.

I have some other tasks to complete before I can install a Microsoft SDK that 
has the tool.  I will try SignTool over the weekend.

 - Dennis

-Original Message-
From: Rob Weir [mailto:r...@robweir.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 9, 2014 15:56
To: dev@openoffice.apache.org; Dennis Hamilton
Subject: Re: Signing AOO 4.1.1 (was RE: Budapest and thereafter)

On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 5:19 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton
dennis.hamil...@acm.org wrote:
[ ... ]
 I don't understand why full rebuilds are required.  The only crucial file 
 that needs signing is the .exe that is downloaded and extracts the actual 
 setup files.  All it does is extract a number of fixed files and then run the 
 extracted setup.exe.


[ ... ]

Of course, nothing requires that we go for certification.   I bet if
we just signed the outermost installer it would be satisfy earlier
versions of Windows, antivirus apps and browsers that are doing this
kind of check.So it might be worth doing just this minimum
initially.

Regards,

-Rob


 If a signed version of that .exe can be created, using the existing setups 
 delivered with the current 4.1.1 .exe files, there is nothing else to do.  It 
 has to be done once for each language, but that's it.  No full rebuilds, no 
 new dates on files.  The extracted setups would be binary identical to each 
 of the current ones for 4.1.1, so it is easy to verify that the signed .exe 
 does not deliver anything but the already reviewed installs.

 That might be unworkable, but it is definitely worth seeing if it is possible 
 rather than going through a full-up set of build processes.

[ ... ]


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Re: Java 32

2014-12-12 Thread Carl Marcum


On 12/12/2014 06:04 PM, Kay Schenk wrote:


On 12/11/2014 12:37 PM, Marcus wrote:

Am 12/11/2014 04:58 PM, schrieb Dennis E. Hamilton:

+1 to Andreas.  Sounds like a plan.

There seems to be some disagreement on what (3), the dialog message,
should be.  It is likely that should be agreed first, since (1) will
depend on it.  That there are only possible mismatches on x64
Windows/Mac operating systems (or any others that run both x86 and x64
binaries) needs to be clear.  Not in the message.  I don't see making
the message even more complicated about lore that will be even more
confusing to casual users.

For (1), the java.html page, I think we can address the concern by
Andreas Säger by keeping the java.html page simple and providing
progressive disclosure of specific details on supplementary pages if
necessary.  That means more page-translation work, so I suggest that
java.html be kept straightforward and as simple as possible (but no
simpler, of course, and definitely accurate) first.

OK, then first a developer has to sort this out before we can go on.
For me it's fine.

Marcus




-Original Message-
From: Andrea Pescetti [mailto:pesce...@apache.org]
Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2014 00:49
To: dev@openoffice.apache.org
Subject: Re: Java 32

[ ... ]

My suggestion (can be executed as a team, not necessarily by one person):

1. Find a proper wording for
http://www.openoffice.org/download/common/java.html

The crux of this problem is that Windows AOO is 32 bit and therefore
requires a 32-bit jvm. I will change java.html to note this.


2. Create a link www.openoffice.org/java pointing at it

3. Find a short (short!) text for the dialog box, sending the people to
www.openoffice.org/java for any details (including 32 and 64-bit
systems); I don't know if links are supported, but the short URL at 2
should take care of it

4. Place #3 in form of a patch in Bugzilla and send the number here (and
if the patch comes from someone who is not one of the usual code
committers, even better)

5. At that point it will be easy for people who have their own build
tree to check the patch before we get it in, so don't worry about this.

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Also,

When attempting to run an UNO client Java application on a system using 
Java 64 bit you receive an error:


Can't load IA 32-bit .dll on a AMD 64-bit platform

This message probably comes from Java but it may be useful to mention it 
because the end user may not be aware.


Unfortunately there is no way to get the user from that error to the 
java.html page.


Thanks,
Carl

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