Re: [Discuss] Review and improve graphics memory handling
the link if you would like to try: www.udemy.com/courses Nancy Web Design Free 24 hour pass to lynda.com. Video courses on SEO, CMS, Design and Software Courses From: Nancy K nancythirt...@yahoo.com.INVALID To: dev@openoffice.apache.org dev@openoffice.apache.org Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2015 4:55 PM Subject: Re: [Discuss] Review and improve graphics memory handling I am not sure if this is the same problem, but it might be since it has to do with graphics. I tried to copy/paste (Ctrl V) the list of graphic images describing courses on this page onto a blank page in OpenOffice 4.1.1Writer :Best Online Courses | Udemy | | | | | | | | | Best Online Courses | UdemyUdemy is the world's largest destination for online courses. Browse the featured courses on Udemy and start learning a new skill today. | | | | View on www.udemy.com | Preview by Yahoo | | | | | My system: Running Win7 Professional 64 bit Operating SystemIntel Core i5-2400 CPU 3.1 ghz; 4 GB RAM installed memory Results after several attempts:1.Each attempt placed the outline boxes and links on the blank page in Writer. 2.Then as it tried to catch up placing the images into place AOO crashed. 3. Alert notice 'OpenOffice Document Recovery' pops up Due to an unexpected error, OpenOffice crashed. All the files you were working on will now be saved. The next time OpenOffice is launched, your files will be recovered automatically. The following files will be recovered: Untitled 14. Selecting OK gave me two scenarios a. Non responsive after progress bar halfway through b. Progress bar never started saving5. Closed and restarted Writer 6. Open Office Document Recovery failed7. Clicking 'NEXT' to get the Error Report Tool opened up a blank page in Writer Nancy Nancy Web Design Free 24 hour pass to lynda.com. Video courses on SEO, CMS, Design and Software Courses From: Kay Schenk kay.sch...@gmail.com To: dev@openoffice.apache.org Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2015 2:22 PM Subject: Re: [Discuss] Review and improve graphics memory handling On 05/26/2015 01:19 AM, armin.le.gr...@me.com wrote: Hi, it should be http://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=125519 which is fixed and in master, would be a candidate for AOO412, too. Sincerely, alg OK. Thanks. This didn't seem to directly relate to just graphic images (but overall size ) so I didn't find it. On 26.05.2015 00:28, Kay Schenk wrote: On 05/25/2015 11:03 AM, Rory O'Farrell wrote: There are constant reports of images going missing in OO Writer. The problem is not consistently reproducible, but is there nevertheless. A recent report suggests it might be memory related: https://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7t=41271p=353246#p353246 It is also informative to move back along that thread for other instances of the problem. I doubt that we can dismiss all occurrences of this problem as finger trouble (i.e., improper user usage). Might it be time to consider increasing the maximum memory allocation for graphics (currently 256 MB) and to review the memory management of the suggested compilers? Also, in case the problem arises from background processing which has not completed on shut down of OO, ought a please wait flag be displayed, a flag specifically keyed to any such background process? In these days of large memory 256MB is a very small allocation. Having observed OO's use of memory with large text (not graphics) files I note that its allocation and consumption of memory is increasingly slower as the amount of memory used by it increases. It is most certainly not linear - I have no accurate method of deciding if the increase in slowness is geometric or even exponential. I found John Ha's analyses and comments back from Apr, 2014 very informative. And, his final followup on Jun 7, 2014 certainly indicates the problem stems from exceeding the graphic memory limits. I couldn't find an actual issue that directly related to this so I will enter one, and reference this thread. Maybe that will help raise attention to it. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org -- MzK We can all sleep easy at night knowing that somewhere at any given time, the Foo Fighters are out there fighting Foo. -- David Letterman - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: [Discuss] Review and improve graphics memory handling
I am not sure if this is the same problem, but it might be since it has to do with graphics. I tried to copy/paste (Ctrl V) the list of graphic images describing courses on this page onto a blank page in OpenOffice 4.1.1Writer :Best Online Courses | Udemy | | | | | | | | | Best Online Courses | UdemyUdemy is the world's largest destination for online courses. Browse the featured courses on Udemy and start learning a new skill today. | | | | View on www.udemy.com | Preview by Yahoo | | | | | My system: Running Win7 Professional 64 bit Operating SystemIntel Core i5-2400 CPU 3.1 ghz; 4 GB RAM installed memory Results after several attempts:1.Each attempt placed the outline boxes and links on the blank page in Writer. 2.Then as it tried to catch up placing the images into place AOO crashed. 3. Alert notice 'OpenOffice Document Recovery' pops up Due to an unexpected error, OpenOffice crashed. All the files you were working on will now be saved. The next time OpenOffice is launched, your files will be recovered automatically. The following files will be recovered: Untitled 14. Selecting OK gave me two scenarios a. Non responsive after progress bar halfway through b. Progress bar never started saving5. Closed and restarted Writer 6. Open Office Document Recovery failed7. Clicking 'NEXT' to get the Error Report Tool opened up a blank page in Writer Nancy Nancy Web Design Free 24 hour pass to lynda.com. Video courses on SEO, CMS, Design and Software Courses From: Kay Schenk kay.sch...@gmail.com To: dev@openoffice.apache.org Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2015 2:22 PM Subject: Re: [Discuss] Review and improve graphics memory handling On 05/26/2015 01:19 AM, armin.le.gr...@me.com wrote: Hi, it should be http://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=125519 which is fixed and in master, would be a candidate for AOO412, too. Sincerely, alg OK. Thanks. This didn't seem to directly relate to just graphic images (but overall size ) so I didn't find it. On 26.05.2015 00:28, Kay Schenk wrote: On 05/25/2015 11:03 AM, Rory O'Farrell wrote: There are constant reports of images going missing in OO Writer. The problem is not consistently reproducible, but is there nevertheless. A recent report suggests it might be memory related: https://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7t=41271p=353246#p353246 It is also informative to move back along that thread for other instances of the problem. I doubt that we can dismiss all occurrences of this problem as finger trouble (i.e., improper user usage). Might it be time to consider increasing the maximum memory allocation for graphics (currently 256 MB) and to review the memory management of the suggested compilers? Also, in case the problem arises from background processing which has not completed on shut down of OO, ought a please wait flag be displayed, a flag specifically keyed to any such background process? In these days of large memory 256MB is a very small allocation. Having observed OO's use of memory with large text (not graphics) files I note that its allocation and consumption of memory is increasingly slower as the amount of memory used by it increases. It is most certainly not linear - I have no accurate method of deciding if the increase in slowness is geometric or even exponential. I found John Ha's analyses and comments back from Apr, 2014 very informative. And, his final followup on Jun 7, 2014 certainly indicates the problem stems from exceeding the graphic memory limits. I couldn't find an actual issue that directly related to this so I will enter one, and reference this thread. Maybe that will help raise attention to it. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org -- MzK We can all sleep easy at night knowing that somewhere at any given time, the Foo Fighters are out there fighting Foo. -- David Letterman - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: [Discuss] Review and improve graphics memory handling
On Tue, 26 May 2015 10:19:07 +0200 armin.le.gr...@me.com armin.le.gr...@me.com wrote: Hi, it should be http://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=125519 which is fixed and in master, would be a candidate for AOO412, too. Sincerely, alg Thank you for the link to Bugzilla, Armin. That bug might answer the crash problem which seems to be Windows related; as most of our Users are using Windows that is good. However this does not address the overall problem of the increasing slow memory management as memory allocated and used by OO increases when large files are processed, be they of graphics or just text file handling. It may be that the fundamental logic underlying the file structure and its processing will not permit of any improvement in this (I don't know - it is currently beyond my knowledge), but often a change in the algorithm used will allow an improvement in a program bottleneck. Has anyone any thoughts on that aspect? On 26.05.2015 00:28, Kay Schenk wrote: On 05/25/2015 11:03 AM, Rory O'Farrell wrote: There are constant reports of images going missing in OO Writer. The problem is not consistently reproducible, but is there nevertheless. A recent report suggests it might be memory related: https://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7t=41271p=353246#p353246 It is also informative to move back along that thread for other instances of the problem. I doubt that we can dismiss all occurrences of this problem as finger trouble (i.e., improper user usage). Might it be time to consider increasing the maximum memory allocation for graphics (currently 256 MB) and to review the memory management of the suggested compilers? Also, in case the problem arises from background processing which has not completed on shut down of OO, ought a please wait flag be displayed, a flag specifically keyed to any such background process? In these days of large memory 256MB is a very small allocation. Having observed OO's use of memory with large text (not graphics) files I note that its allocation and consumption of memory is increasingly slower as the amount of memory used by it increases. It is most certainly not linear - I have no accurate method of deciding if the increase in slowness is geometric or even exponential. I found John Ha's analyses and comments back from Apr, 2014 very informative. And, his final followup on Jun 7, 2014 certainly indicates the problem stems from exceeding the graphic memory limits. I couldn't find an actual issue that directly related to this so I will enter one, and reference this thread. Maybe that will help raise attention to it. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org -- Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: [Discuss] Review and improve graphics memory handling
Hi, it should be http://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=125519 which is fixed and in master, would be a candidate for AOO412, too. Sincerely, alg On 26.05.2015 00:28, Kay Schenk wrote: On 05/25/2015 11:03 AM, Rory O'Farrell wrote: There are constant reports of images going missing in OO Writer. The problem is not consistently reproducible, but is there nevertheless. A recent report suggests it might be memory related: https://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7t=41271p=353246#p353246 It is also informative to move back along that thread for other instances of the problem. I doubt that we can dismiss all occurrences of this problem as finger trouble (i.e., improper user usage). Might it be time to consider increasing the maximum memory allocation for graphics (currently 256 MB) and to review the memory management of the suggested compilers? Also, in case the problem arises from background processing which has not completed on shut down of OO, ought a please wait flag be displayed, a flag specifically keyed to any such background process? In these days of large memory 256MB is a very small allocation. Having observed OO's use of memory with large text (not graphics) files I note that its allocation and consumption of memory is increasingly slower as the amount of memory used by it increases. It is most certainly not linear - I have no accurate method of deciding if the increase in slowness is geometric or even exponential. I found John Ha's analyses and comments back from Apr, 2014 very informative. And, his final followup on Jun 7, 2014 certainly indicates the problem stems from exceeding the graphic memory limits. I couldn't find an actual issue that directly related to this so I will enter one, and reference this thread. Maybe that will help raise attention to it. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Change color of menubar and docking area
Hi Xaver, X Roemer schrieb: Hi, I already asked this question in the forum but didn't receive any answer: https://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=20t=77257 Is is possible to change the color of the menubar and the docking area from an extension? This is what I tried: I can get the menubar via the layoutManager: menubar = layoutmgr.getElement(private:resource/menubar/menubar) but the menubar doesn't have a realInterface, which I guess I would need to change its style. I searched the configuration for a value holding the color but couldn't discover one. C:\Users\Homer\AppData\Roaming\OpenOffice\4\user\registrymodifications.xcu Is there maybe another file holding the configuration? The color values are in StyleSettings. But as far as I know, they are readonly and only reflect the settings of the operating system. You might want to look whether the Personalization feature of LibreOffice (Firefox Themes; Persona) gives you more options. Kind regards Regina - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Change color of menubar and docking area
Hi Regina, I'm able to change allmost all colors via Style Settings, except the ones from the menubar and the docking area below. When I compare my system colors to the colors of OO, they are slightly different, so I guess, they have to be set somewhere. (But I couldn't find the source, neither in the installation folder on my disk, nor in AOO's source code.) I also wrote some code to change Personas and wrote a mail to the LO Mailing List already. But it would be nice to find some code, which works on LO and on OO. Regards, Xaver Am 26.05.2015 um 11:11 schrieb Regina Henschel: Hi Xaver, X Roemer schrieb: Hi, I already asked this question in the forum but didn't receive any answer: https://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=20t=77257 Is is possible to change the color of the menubar and the docking area from an extension? This is what I tried: I can get the menubar via the layoutManager: menubar = layoutmgr.getElement(private:resource/menubar/menubar) but the menubar doesn't have a realInterface, which I guess I would need to change its style. I searched the configuration for a value holding the color but couldn't discover one. C:\Users\Homer\AppData\Roaming\OpenOffice\4\user\registrymodifications.xcu Is there maybe another file holding the configuration? The color values are in StyleSettings. But as far as I know, they are readonly and only reflect the settings of the operating system. You might want to look whether the Personalization feature of LibreOffice (Firefox Themes; Persona) gives you more options. Kind regards Regina - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Change color of menubar and docking area
is a bit Off-topic but I would love to see some of the toolbars gain better costumizability by dragging to other regions. A specific example is the color bar palette (View - Toolbars - Colors) and be able to have it on the lower bar of Draw for example. Is there different kind of toolbars that just made them as compatible with the workspace? On Tue, May 26, 2015 at 5:49 AM, X Roemer x-roe...@web.de wrote: Hi Regina, I'm able to change allmost all colors via Style Settings, except the ones from the menubar and the docking area below. When I compare my system colors to the colors of OO, they are slightly different, so I guess, they have to be set somewhere. (But I couldn't find the source, neither in the installation folder on my disk, nor in AOO's source code.) I also wrote some code to change Personas and wrote a mail to the LO Mailing List already. But it would be nice to find some code, which works on LO and on OO. Regards, Xaver Am 26.05.2015 um 11:11 schrieb Regina Henschel: Hi Xaver, X Roemer schrieb: Hi, I already asked this question in the forum but didn't receive any answer: https://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=20t=77257 Is is possible to change the color of the menubar and the docking area from an extension? This is what I tried: I can get the menubar via the layoutManager: menubar = layoutmgr.getElement(private:resource/menubar/menubar) but the menubar doesn't have a realInterface, which I guess I would need to change its style. I searched the configuration for a value holding the color but couldn't discover one. C:\Users\Homer\AppData\Roaming\OpenOffice\4\user\registrymodifications.xcu Is there maybe another file holding the configuration? The color values are in StyleSettings. But as far as I know, they are readonly and only reflect the settings of the operating system. You might want to look whether the Personalization feature of LibreOffice (Firefox Themes; Persona) gives you more options. Kind regards Regina - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org -- Alexandro Colorado Apache OpenOffice Contributor 882C 4389 3C27 E8DF 41B9 5C4C 1DB7 9D1C 7F4C 2614
Re: [Discuss] Review and improve graphics memory handling
Hi Rory, On 26.05.2015 10:37, Rory O'Farrell wrote: On Tue, 26 May 2015 10:19:07 +0200 armin.le.gr...@me.com armin.le.gr...@me.com wrote: Hi, it should be http://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=125519 which is fixed and in master, would be a candidate for AOO412, too. Sincerely, alg Thank you for the link to Bugzilla, Armin. That bug might answer the crash problem which seems to be Windows related; as most of our Users are using Windows that is good. However this does not address the overall problem of the increasing slow memory management as memory allocated and used by OO increases when large files are processed, be they of graphics or just text file handling. It may be that the fundamental logic underlying the file structure and its processing will not permit of any improvement in this (I don't know - it is currently beyond my knowledge), but often a change in the algorithm used will allow an improvement in a program bottleneck. Has anyone any thoughts on that aspect? Yes, constantly. For 32bit AOO (Windows unfortunately) the 4GB mem quickly gets filled with modern bitmaps. The mentioned fix resolves that by limiting used mem for loaded pics - not much else to be done without bigger redesigns and on 32bit. Rewrites of this aspect are surely welcome! Sincerely, alg On 26.05.2015 00:28, Kay Schenk wrote: On 05/25/2015 11:03 AM, Rory O'Farrell wrote: There are constant reports of images going missing in OO Writer. The problem is not consistently reproducible, but is there nevertheless. A recent report suggests it might be memory related: https://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7t=41271p=353246#p353246 It is also informative to move back along that thread for other instances of the problem. I doubt that we can dismiss all occurrences of this problem as finger trouble (i.e., improper user usage). Might it be time to consider increasing the maximum memory allocation for graphics (currently 256 MB) and to review the memory management of the suggested compilers? Also, in case the problem arises from background processing which has not completed on shut down of OO, ought a please wait flag be displayed, a flag specifically keyed to any such background process? In these days of large memory 256MB is a very small allocation. Having observed OO's use of memory with large text (not graphics) files I note that its allocation and consumption of memory is increasingly slower as the amount of memory used by it increases. It is most certainly not linear - I have no accurate method of deciding if the increase in slowness is geometric or even exponential. I found John Ha's analyses and comments back from Apr, 2014 very informative. And, his final followup on Jun 7, 2014 certainly indicates the problem stems from exceeding the graphic memory limits. I couldn't find an actual issue that directly related to this so I will enter one, and reference this thread. Maybe that will help raise attention to it. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: [Discuss] Review and improve graphics memory handling
On 05/26/2015 01:19 AM, armin.le.gr...@me.com wrote: Hi, it should be http://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=125519 which is fixed and in master, would be a candidate for AOO412, too. Sincerely, alg OK. Thanks. This didn't seem to directly relate to just graphic images (but overall size ) so I didn't find it. On 26.05.2015 00:28, Kay Schenk wrote: On 05/25/2015 11:03 AM, Rory O'Farrell wrote: There are constant reports of images going missing in OO Writer. The problem is not consistently reproducible, but is there nevertheless. A recent report suggests it might be memory related: https://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7t=41271p=353246#p353246 It is also informative to move back along that thread for other instances of the problem. I doubt that we can dismiss all occurrences of this problem as finger trouble (i.e., improper user usage). Might it be time to consider increasing the maximum memory allocation for graphics (currently 256 MB) and to review the memory management of the suggested compilers? Also, in case the problem arises from background processing which has not completed on shut down of OO, ought a please wait flag be displayed, a flag specifically keyed to any such background process? In these days of large memory 256MB is a very small allocation. Having observed OO's use of memory with large text (not graphics) files I note that its allocation and consumption of memory is increasingly slower as the amount of memory used by it increases. It is most certainly not linear - I have no accurate method of deciding if the increase in slowness is geometric or even exponential. I found John Ha's analyses and comments back from Apr, 2014 very informative. And, his final followup on Jun 7, 2014 certainly indicates the problem stems from exceeding the graphic memory limits. I couldn't find an actual issue that directly related to this so I will enter one, and reference this thread. Maybe that will help raise attention to it. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org -- MzK We can all sleep easy at night knowing that somewhere at any given time, the Foo Fighters are out there fighting Foo. -- David Letterman - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org