Re: Download Stats

2015-06-28 Thread Simon Phipps
On Sun, Jun 28, 2015 at 9:33 AM, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org
wrote:


 Note: as discussed several times on this list, replacing this with a link
 to the SourceForge statistics is wrong, since the scripts do the right
 thing in terms of accounting for all downloads and reducing duplicates
 (SourceForge statistics are precise, but we don't want to consider, for
 example, a language pack as if it was a full download).


While it's great to have more accurate stats, if creating them requires
regular manual intervention there is a great risk of them getting out of
date as they are now; rule one of metrics is to ensure they are integrated
with the workflow and not a stand-alone task. Perhaps changing the page to
document the issues with the SourceForge stats before linking to them would
be a good replacement? Accurate stats that need interpretation are better
than inaccurate stats...

S.


Re: Windows 10 Compatible

2015-06-28 Thread Rory O'Farrell
On Sun, 28 Jun 2015 01:35:10 -0430
Alex Oliveira aqol...@gmail.com wrote:

 Dear Sir,
 
 Do you have plans to make OpenOffice compatible with Windows 10 ( 32/64 )
 ???
 
 Thank you very much,
 
 Alex Oliveira

Reports on the opeOffice en-Forum are that OpenOffice  runs on Windows 10 (in 
32 bit mode). See this thread:
https://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5t=77464

-- 
Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie

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Re: Download Stats

2015-06-28 Thread Andrea Pescetti

On 27/06/2015 Kay Schenk wrote:

http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/openoffice/devtools/aoo-stats/
using the csv file you see there ...
This was a nice feature but we need instructions.


They were sent by Rob to this list a few months ago, see

https://www.mail-archive.com/dev@openoffice.apache.org/msg22689.html

and they appear to work on the (Linux-based) system I'm using now, even 
though retrieving data takes a lot of time since the scripts send many 
queries to the SourceForge API.


I'll commit them as README.txt in 
https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openoffice/devtools/aoo-stats/ as soon 
as I can.


Note: as discussed several times on this list, replacing this with a 
link to the SourceForge statistics is wrong, since the scripts do the 
right thing in terms of accounting for all downloads and reducing 
duplicates (SourceForge statistics are precise, but we don't want to 
consider, for example, a language pack as if it was a full download).


Regards,
  Andrea.

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Windows 10 Compatible

2015-06-28 Thread Alex Oliveira
Dear Sir,

Do you have plans to make OpenOffice compatible with Windows 10 ( 32/64 )
???

Thank you very much,

Alex Oliveira


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Re: [site] Donate via Amazon - update required

2015-06-28 Thread Marcus

Am 06/27/2015 12:27 AM, schrieb Phil Steitz:

On 6/26/15 3:00 PM, Marcus wrote:

Thanks for your hint.

I've tried to update this on our webpage. However, it seems that
the ASP webpage uses some more code (CSS and/or JS) that is not
included in our page [1].

If you have a fast idea how to get this fixed, it would be greatly
appreciated. Othwerwise I will simple delete the Amazon part - or
the complete webpage, let's see. ;-)


Make sure to include this script reference at the top of the block:

script async 
src=https://static-na.payments-amazon.com/OffAmazonPayments/us/js/Widgets.jsview-source:https://static-na.payments-amazon.com/OffAmazonPayments/us/js/Widgets.js/script

If you just copy the lines starting there and ending with
data-ap-payment-action=AuthorizeAndCapture

/div

from the source in [1] it should work.


OK, it's working now but the UI part is shown double. Only the bottom 
one (the smaller one) is working. Any idea?


[1] http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/donations.html

Thanks

Marcus




Am 06/25/2015 08:38 PM, schrieb Phil Steitz:

Hello AOO ppl,

Amazon has phased out the old Amazon Simple Pay that we used
initially to enable donations to the ASF via Amazon.  The html
snippet included on the AOO donate page [1] needs to be updated to
match what is on the main ASF donations page [2].  It looks like the
site is generated by the CMS.  I can try to update it if you all
don't mind that (and the CMS lets me do it); or someone else can do
it.  The new widget takes a little more space and is a little
goofy-looking, so it would probably be best for someone with more UI
skills than me to at least verify it.

The donations using the old code will start failing soon so we need
to get on this fairly quickly (as in the next couple of weeks).
Sorry I did not give heads up sooner.  I did not realize that you
were maintaining a separate donations page.

Phil

[1] http://www.openoffice.org/donations.html
[2] http://www.apache.org/foundation/contributing.html


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Re: Windows 10 Compatible

2015-06-28 Thread Marcus

Am 06/28/2015 05:51 PM, schrieb Dennis E. Hamilton:

Although I can also confirm that AOO 4.1.1 appears to run fine on Windows 10, I would not 
put that in the system requirements until Windows 10 ships on July 29, even 
though the current Preview Build 10130 is likely very close.


I don't think there will be significat changes within a few weeks when 
we are already so close to the new major version.



There are two important confirmations:
  1. Preservation of an already-installed Apache OpenOffice when an older 
Windows version configuration is upgraded.
  2. Download and installation of a fresh copy of Apache OpenOffice on a 
(upgraded) Windows 10 configuration.


These are points that can lead *maybe* to a problem. However, I want to 
see them as real. So, when we have no negative things until now, then 
it's an absolut positive sign.



The interesting question for Apache OpenOffice 4.1.2 is to see if *signed* 
binaries will now install properly (and might be distributed via the Windows 
Store).  We should have time to confirm that when 4.1.2 is distributed post 
Windows 10.


Sure, but first we need a 4.1.2. ;-)

As always, my 2 ct.

Marcus




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Subject: Re: Windows 10 Compatible

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  Are there then any objections to add it to the sys req at
http://www.openoffice.org/dev_docs/source/sys_reqs_aoo41.html;?

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Re: Windows 10 Compatible

2015-06-28 Thread Marcus

Am 06/28/2015 04:31 PM, schrieb Dave Barton:

 Original Message  
From: Marcus
To: dev@openoffice.apache.org
Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2015 16:16:35 +0200


Am 06/28/2015 08:29 AM, schrieb Rory O'Farrell:

On Sun, 28 Jun 2015 01:35:10 -0430
Alex Oliveiraaqol...@gmail.com   wrote:


Dear Sir,

Do you have plans to make OpenOffice compatible with Windows 10 (
32/64 )
???

Thank you very much,

Alex Oliveira


Reports on the opeOffice en-Forum are that OpenOffice  runs on Windows
10 (in 32 bit mode). See this thread:
https://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5t=77464


that's great. Are there then any objections to add it to the sys req at
http://www.openoffice.org/dev_docs/source/sys_reqs_aoo41.html;?

Marcus


Go ahead. I have been testing 4.1.1 on Win 10 Preview (32  64) for a
few months and found no issues that are not already present when run on
Win 7, 8.0, 8.1. If anything it runs better on Win 10, but that's my
subjective view.


done :-)

Will be published as soon as the problem with the donations webpage is 
solved.


Marcus


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Re: Windows 10 Compatible

2015-06-28 Thread Dave Barton
 Original Message  
From: Marcus
To: dev@openoffice.apache.org
Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2015 16:16:35 +0200

 Am 06/28/2015 08:29 AM, schrieb Rory O'Farrell:
 On Sun, 28 Jun 2015 01:35:10 -0430
 Alex Oliveiraaqol...@gmail.com  wrote:

 Dear Sir,

 Do you have plans to make OpenOffice compatible with Windows 10 (
 32/64 )
 ???

 Thank you very much,

 Alex Oliveira

 Reports on the opeOffice en-Forum are that OpenOffice  runs on Windows
 10 (in 32 bit mode). See this thread:
 https://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5t=77464
 
 that's great. Are there then any objections to add it to the sys req at
 http://www.openoffice.org/dev_docs/source/sys_reqs_aoo41.html;?
 
 Marcus

Go ahead. I have been testing 4.1.1 on Win 10 Preview (32  64) for a
few months and found no issues that are not already present when run on
Win 7, 8.0, 8.1. If anything it runs better on Win 10, but that's my
subjective view.

Dave




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Re: Windows 10 Compatible

2015-06-28 Thread Marcus

Am 06/28/2015 08:29 AM, schrieb Rory O'Farrell:

On Sun, 28 Jun 2015 01:35:10 -0430
Alex Oliveiraaqol...@gmail.com  wrote:


Dear Sir,

Do you have plans to make OpenOffice compatible with Windows 10 ( 32/64 )
???

Thank you very much,

Alex Oliveira


Reports on the opeOffice en-Forum are that OpenOffice  runs on Windows 10 (in 
32 bit mode). See this thread:
https://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5t=77464


that's great. Are there then any objections to add it to the sys req at 
http://www.openoffice.org/dev_docs/source/sys_reqs_aoo41.html;?


Marcus

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Re: [site] Donate via Amazon - update required

2015-06-28 Thread Marcus

Am 06/28/2015 08:47 PM, schrieb Phil Steitz:

On 6/28/15 8:23 AM, Marcus wrote:

Am 06/27/2015 12:27 AM, schrieb Phil Steitz:

On 6/26/15 3:00 PM, Marcus wrote:

Thanks for your hint.

I've tried to update this on our webpage. However, it seems that
the ASP webpage uses some more code (CSS and/or JS) that is not
included in our page [1].

If you have a fast idea how to get this fixed, it would be greatly
appreciated. Othwerwise I will simple delete the Amazon part - or
the complete webpage, let's see. ;-)


Make sure to include this script reference at the top of the block:

script async
src=https://static-na.payments-amazon.com/OffAmazonPayments/us/js/Widgets.jsview-source:https://static-na.payments-amazon.com/OffAmazonPayments/us/js/Widgets.js/script

If you just copy the lines starting there and ending with
data-ap-payment-action=AuthorizeAndCapture
 
/div

from the source in [1] it should work.


OK, it's working now but the UI part is shown double. Only the
bottom one (the smaller one) is working. Any idea?

[1] http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/donations.html


I am no html or javascript expert, but it looks like you have
duplicated the code when I view source on the staged site.  The
first div section after the script reference looks like what is on
the main ASF donate page and works.  I am not sure what the
following div's are trying to do.  The entire code on the main ASF
donate page is just

script async 
src=https://static-na.payments-amazon.com/OffAmazonPayments/us/js/Widgets.jsview-source:https://static-na.payments-amazon.com/OffAmazonPayments/us/js/Widgets.js/script
div
 data-ap-widget-type=expressDonationWidget
 data-ap-widget-theme=ap-dark
 data-ap-widget-amount-presets=5,25,50,100
 data-ap-signature=JUgOpxW0Clcj26ViJ0YsVFbIRWnMEj2fRaimKGx77sY%3D
 data-ap-seller-id=A3AAQXMTGPL1GN
 data-ap-access-key=AKIAIOQ6IDLL52GFQ33A
 
data-ap-lwa-client-id=amzn1.application-oa2-client.a1c02356ef9245aa97cb16bbd6a94859
 data-ap-return-url=https://www.apache.org;
 data-ap-currency-code=USD
 data-ap-note=Thank you for your donation!
 data-ap-shipping-address-required=false
 data-ap-payment-action=AuthorizeAndCapture

/div


Then it is more strange because the duplicated code is not findable in 
the real source. But ...



You should be able to drop that in and it should work. There is no need for 
more code to generate the widget.


.. when deleting everything but keeping what you have listed above, then 
it's only one grey area. A bit too big but working. And this is important.


Thanks for you help. :-)

Marcus




Am 06/25/2015 08:38 PM, schrieb Phil Steitz:

Hello AOO ppl,

Amazon has phased out the old Amazon Simple Pay that we used
initially to enable donations to the ASF via Amazon.  The html
snippet included on the AOO donate page [1] needs to be updated to
match what is on the main ASF donations page [2].  It looks
like the
site is generated by the CMS.  I can try to update it if you all
don't mind that (and the CMS lets me do it); or someone else
can do
it.  The new widget takes a little more space and is a little
goofy-looking, so it would probably be best for someone with
more UI
skills than me to at least verify it.

The donations using the old code will start failing soon so we
need
to get on this fairly quickly (as in the next couple of weeks).
Sorry I did not give heads up sooner.  I did not realize that you
were maintaining a separate donations page.

Phil

[1] http://www.openoffice.org/donations.html
[2] http://www.apache.org/foundation/contributing.html


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Re: [site] Donate via Amazon - update required

2015-06-28 Thread Nancy K
I see that div class=ap-dw-main  is listed twice with two different 
ap-button-(numbers). If I remove the first listing entirely the second 
continues to work on my firefox browser. Removepath;html body div#content 
div.right center div.ap-dw-container.ap-dark div.ap-dw-main 
div#ap-button-795162511.ap-dw-button
  Code:div class=ap-dw-mainh3 class=ap-dw-main-headingDonate/h3div 
class=ap-dw-content-container ap-dw-cfspan class=ap-dw-error/spandiv 
id=ap-button-795162511 class=ap-dw-buttonimg 
id=OffAmazonPaymentsWidgets0 style=cursor:pointer; 
src=https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/G/01/EP/offAmazonPayments/us/live/prod/image/donation/gold/medium/LwA.png;/div
which leaves the second donation working and displayed larger:
h3 class=ap-dw-main-headingDonate/h3div class=ap-dw-content-container 
ap-dw-cfspan class=ap-dw-error/spandiv id=ap-button-84292232 
class=ap-dw-buttonimg id=OffAmazonPaymentsWidgets0 
src=https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/G/01/EP/offAmazonPayments/us/live/prod/image/donation/gold/medium/LwA.png;
 style=cursor:pointer;/div

I tried to figure out the line number using a validator online - this should be 
around line 303. I hope this helps!Nancy
    Nancy       Web Design        
Free 24 hour pass to lynda.com.
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 From: Marcus marcus.m...@wtnet.de
 To: dev@ dev@openoffice.apache.org 
Cc: Phil Steitz phil.ste...@gmail.com 
 Sent: Sunday, June 28, 2015 8:23 AM
 Subject: Re: [site] Donate via Amazon - update required
   
Am 06/27/2015 12:27 AM, schrieb Phil Steitz:
 On 6/26/15 3:00 PM, Marcus wrote:
 Thanks for your hint.

 I've tried to update this on our webpage. However, it seems that
 the ASP webpage uses some more code (CSS and/or JS) that is not
 included in our page [1].

 If you have a fast idea how to get this fixed, it would be greatly
 appreciated. Othwerwise I will simple delete the Amazon part - or
 the complete webpage, let's see. ;-)

 Make sure to include this script reference at the top of the block:

 script async 
 src=https://static-na.payments-amazon.com/OffAmazonPayments/us/js/Widgets.jsview-source:https://static-na.payments-amazon.com/OffAmazonPayments/us/js/Widgets.js/script

 If you just copy the lines starting there and ending with
 data-ap-payment-action=AuthorizeAndCapture
    
 /div

 from the source in [1] it should work.

OK, it's working now but the UI part is shown double. Only the bottom 
one (the smaller one) is working. Any idea?

[1] http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/donations.html

Thanks

Marcus



 Am 06/25/2015 08:38 PM, schrieb Phil Steitz:
 Hello AOO ppl,

 Amazon has phased out the old Amazon Simple Pay that we used
 initially to enable donations to the ASF via Amazon.  The html
 snippet included on the AOO donate page [1] needs to be updated to
 match what is on the main ASF donations page [2].  It looks like the
 site is generated by the CMS.  I can try to update it if you all
 don't mind that (and the CMS lets me do it); or someone else can do
 it.  The new widget takes a little more space and is a little
 goofy-looking, so it would probably be best for someone with more UI
 skills than me to at least verify it.

 The donations using the old code will start failing soon so we need
 to get on this fairly quickly (as in the next couple of weeks).
 Sorry I did not give heads up sooner.  I did not realize that you
 were maintaining a separate donations page.

 Phil

 [1] http://www.openoffice.org/donations.html
 [2] http://www.apache.org/foundation/contributing.html

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Re: [site] Donate via Amazon - update required

2015-06-28 Thread Marcus

Am 06/28/2015 09:59 PM, schrieb Nancy K:

I see thatdiv class=ap-dw-mainis listed twice with two different 
ap-button-(numbers). If I remove the first listing entirely the second continues to work on my 
firefox browser. Removepath;html body div#content div.right center div.ap-dw-container.ap-dark 
div.ap-dw-main div#ap-button-795162511.ap-dw-button
   Code:div class=ap-dw-mainh3 class=ap-dw-main-headingDonate/h3div class=ap-dw-content-container ap-dw-cfspan 
class=ap-dw-error/spandiv id=ap-button-795162511 class=ap-dw-buttonimg id=OffAmazonPaymentsWidgets0 style=cursor:pointer; 
src=https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/G/01/EP/offAmazonPayments/us/live/prod/image/donation/gold/medium/LwA.png;/div
which leaves the second donation working and displayed larger:
h3 class=ap-dw-main-headingDonate/h3div class=ap-dw-content-container ap-dw-cfspan class=ap-dw-error/spandiv 
id=ap-button-84292232 class=ap-dw-buttonimg id=OffAmazonPaymentsWidgets0 
src=https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/G/01/EP/offAmazonPayments/us/live/prod/image/donation/gold/medium/LwA.png; style=cursor:pointer;/div

I tried to figure out the line number using a validator online - this should be 
around line 303. I hope this helps!Nancy


it's OK. I've deleted some more code that Phil was talking about and now 
it's working fine.


So, thanks for helping out.

Marcus




  From: Marcusmarcus.m...@wtnet.de
  To: dev@dev@openoffice.apache.org
Cc: Phil Steitzphil.ste...@gmail.com
  Sent: Sunday, June 28, 2015 8:23 AM
  Subject: Re: [site] Donate via Amazon - update required

Am 06/27/2015 12:27 AM, schrieb Phil Steitz:

On 6/26/15 3:00 PM, Marcus wrote:

Thanks for your hint.

I've tried to update this on our webpage. However, it seems that
the ASP webpage uses some more code (CSS and/or JS) that is not
included in our page [1].

If you have a fast idea how to get this fixed, it would be greatly
appreciated. Othwerwise I will simple delete the Amazon part - or
the complete webpage, let's see. ;-)


Make sure to include this script reference at the top of the block:

script async 
src=https://static-na.payments-amazon.com/OffAmazonPayments/us/js/Widgets.jsview-source:https://static-na.payments-amazon.com/OffAmazonPayments/us/js/Widgets.js/script

If you just copy the lines starting there and ending with
data-ap-payment-action=AuthorizeAndCapture
 
/div

from the source in [1] it should work.


OK, it's working now but the UI part is shown double. Only the bottom
one (the smaller one) is working. Any idea?

[1] http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/donations.html

Thanks

Marcus




Am 06/25/2015 08:38 PM, schrieb Phil Steitz:

Hello AOO ppl,

Amazon has phased out the old Amazon Simple Pay that we used
initially to enable donations to the ASF via Amazon.  The html
snippet included on the AOO donate page [1] needs to be updated to
match what is on the main ASF donations page [2].  It looks like the
site is generated by the CMS.  I can try to update it if you all
don't mind that (and the CMS lets me do it); or someone else can do
it.  The new widget takes a little more space and is a little
goofy-looking, so it would probably be best for someone with more UI
skills than me to at least verify it.

The donations using the old code will start failing soon so we need
to get on this fairly quickly (as in the next couple of weeks).
Sorry I did not give heads up sooner.  I did not realize that you
were maintaining a separate donations page.

Phil

[1] http://www.openoffice.org/donations.html
[2] http://www.apache.org/foundation/contributing.html


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Re: Background to Cooperation: ASF/AOO Principles, Policies, Practices

2015-06-28 Thread jan i
On 28 June 2015 at 19:49, Dennis E. Hamilton orc...@apache.org wrote:

 I want to be very clear about the narrowness of the exemplary Apache
 OpenOffice exception.  See the remark below.  And to see how one wends
 through the deliberations around obtaining an exception, 
 https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LEGAL-117 is exemplary.  A general
 exploration of https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LEGAL/ reveals
 more cases as well as how rare exceptions are.

  - Dennis

 -Original Message-
 From: Dennis E. Hamilton [mailto:orc...@apache.org]
 Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2015 16:56
 To: dev@openoffice.apache.org
 Subject: Background to Cooperation: ASF/AOO Principles, Policies, Practices

 [ ... ]

 PRACTICES AND EXCEPTIONS

 There are many practices that support how the ASF pursues its mission.
 The use of mailing lists is one example.  The use of services supported on
 Apache infrastructure is another.

 There can be exceptions to policy and deviations among practices.
 Exceptions tend to be very specific and not generalized.  (I suspect a
 generalization would be a change/amendment of policy and a serious review
 of any conflicts with established principles.)

 An example of an exception that is specific to the Apache OpenOffice
 project is the distribution of convenience binaries that have writing-aid
 plug-ins bundled with them that are not themselves under a license that is
 acceptable for source-code releases.  There are a number of specific,
 delimited provisions under which this action is found consistent with
 Apache principles although it is an exception to a general policy.  This
 practice was only introduced after obtaining review and eventual
 concurrence via the list on which legal and license questions are discussed.

 orcmid
 The narrowness of the exception for these plug-ins is that they
 contain no code, they deliver data in a general format that can
 be used in a well-defined technique, and that they are completely
 replaceable.  Users can also install additional ones of their
 choosing and remove/disable the ones that are provided in the
 binary distributions as a convenience.  It is also the case that,
 if one inspects the plug-in (using a form of Zip package), one
 would encounter all applicable license information and there would
 be no confusion over the license that is specific to them material
 conveyed by a given plug-in.
 /orcmid


I would be very careful about interpreting the above extract. The plugins
do contains quite a lot of code, and some of them like the dictionaries are
not really
optional. We actually deliver plugins as part of our own exe, so we do
distribute some of the plugins without a special license.

But legal has looked at what we deliver and accepted it, so no need to
detail that further.

You also use the word narrowness, as if these exceptions are written in
stone, that is not the case, we can always ask for other exceptions if
needed (whether
we get them is a different matter).

rgds
jan i.


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