Hi-
> On 01 Oct 2015, at 14:43, Andrea Pescetti wrote:
>
> It seems that several of us are (or are going to be) at ApacheCon Europe
> today y and tomorrow, but it's difficult to find people in the huge crowd.
>
> Louis suggested that we organize a meeting tomorrow morning (do you have any
> more details about proposed time/place, Louis?).
>
> I expect that we manage to find each other at the reception tonight anyway.
We can try to meet up. I doubt we will have—nor should we—any conversation that
would not be had in pubic, as on this list. It’s more to talk as easily as
in-peson meetings can only make possible.
But I think the issues are those that we all here are aware of. They are also
public, or should be.
Briefly:
* We need developers. We need them to continue with the project, with what
we’ve been doing for almost exactly 15 years (13 October), and we need them to
address the needs that those who use OO (or LO) on a large scale really need.
— those needs are, interoperability with MS OOXML and probably also the binary
formats (.doc, etc.) and also collaboration—a vague term.
We also need core developers who can initiate and then help lead new and
interesting features that extend the reach of the ODF.
The other big issue that we all have discussed relates to working with those at
LibreOffice/TDF. I am aware of the issues and obstacles and also histories that
obstruct the flows of community work. But the current situation is not really
helping anyone and is confusing everyone. Even if issues like license, workflow
culture, notions of community, etc. prevent actual collaboration on any but the
most essential security issues, my guess is that we can probably help the
larger community of OO/LO users by clarifying what our identities and
differences are and what users can expect. We are both open source projects. We
ought therefore to be able to be as transparent in these matters as we are in
our code. And we owe it to the community of users who want to know what keeps
us apart and why we can’t just get along.
Of course, I hardly expect that we’ll have anything like an agreement on this
matter tonight, should we even discuss it! And of course, any real, substantive
discussion will necessarily include the community, else it won’t have happened.
>
> Regards,
> Andrea.
Best,
Louis
PS I had a rather interesting discussion with several people on the state of
the ODF today, at ApacheCon. Among them was Giovanni Grazia, who led the
migration from MSFT 2003 to AOO of the significant Italian polity of Regione
Emilia-Romagna. I’ll draft a short account of it as well as other elements that
speak to the state of ODF today.
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