Re: Pending release tasks

2015-10-29 Thread Andrea Pescetti
Marcus wrote: Gavin will have a look for the problem. We will go on tomorrow. The site builds correctly now: https://ci.apache.org/builders/ooo-site-site-staging but I haven't checked if all your commits were properly applied (the ones to the Italian pages were not applied until I made

Re: Is AOO 4.1.2 notably faster?

2015-10-29 Thread Pedro Giffuni
Thanks for the feedback Francis, I looked a bit into the MSVC documentation and it appears their calloc() uses malloc() internally. It is likely that there are subtle compatibility reasons for them to avoid some tweaks that linux and other systems do. Maybe using calloc has secondary long-term

Re: Thinking of joining OpenOffice as a developer

2015-10-29 Thread Patricia Shanahan
On 10/29/2015 8:06 AM, Pedro Giffuni wrote: Hello; First of all, a warm welcome to Patricia. Java developers are particularly welcome at this stage! Just IMHO, the C++ side of AOO is either under-control or too-ugly-to care-about, so we would do good focus more on the Java parts, which are

Re: Thinking of joining OpenOffice as a developer

2015-10-29 Thread Pedro Giffuni
Hello; First of all, a warm welcome to Patricia. Java developers are particularly welcome at this stage! Just IMHO, the C++ side of AOO is either under-control or too-ugly-to care-about, so we would do good focus more on the Java parts, which are also somewhat ugly but still promising. Once you

Re: Remembering Ian Lynch in 4.1.2 announcement

2015-10-29 Thread Roberto Galoppini
Absolutely. +1 2015-10-29 15:01 GMT+01:00 Jürgen Lange : > +1 to this idea > > Jürgen Lange > > > Am 27.10.2015 um 23:52 schrieb Andrea Pescetti: > >> I was wondering whether we should remember Ian Lynch at the end of the >> 4.1.2 Release announcement, with a sentence like

Remove outdated Copyright-Approved Persons and Companies list

2015-10-29 Thread Tae Wong
The page is located at http://www.openoffice.org/copyright/copyrightapproved.html It won't be updated anymore after 2008/06/03. I've attached a large text file containing the names of the individuals and companies that are not present in credits-ooo33.html. R. Hariram Aatreya Peter Arnold Jimi

RE: Thinking of joining OpenOffice as a developer

2015-10-29 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
Thanks, Patricia, > -Original Message- > From: Patricia Shanahan [mailto:p...@acm.org] > Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2015 10:32 > To: dev@openoffice.apache.org > Subject: Re: Thinking of joining OpenOffice as a developer > [ ... ] > What is the best guide to building AOO on Windows 8? >

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2015-10-29 Thread joergenhonore
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Re: Thinking of joining OpenOffice as a developer

2015-10-29 Thread Damjan Jovanovic
On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 7:32 PM, Patricia Shanahan wrote: > On 10/29/2015 9:12 AM, Patricia Shanahan wrote: > >> On 10/29/2015 8:06 AM, Pedro Giffuni wrote: >> >>> Hello; >>> >>> First of all, a warm welcome to Patricia. Java developers are >>> particularly welcome at this stage!

Re: Reporting broken download link

2015-10-29 Thread Kay Schenk
Hi-- Please use our official download page -- http://www.openoffice.org/download/ for all platform binaries. The Russian version is now currently available from our partner, SourceForge. On 10/29/2015 02:17 AM, Rory O'Farrell wrote: > On Thu, 29 Oct 2015 04:08:11 +0300 Виктор

Re: Thinking of joining OpenOffice as a developer

2015-10-29 Thread Patricia Shanahan
On 10/29/2015 9:12 AM, Patricia Shanahan wrote: On 10/29/2015 8:06 AM, Pedro Giffuni wrote: Hello; First of all, a warm welcome to Patricia. Java developers are particularly welcome at this stage! Just IMHO, the C++ side of AOO is either under-control or too-ugly-to care-about, so we would do

Re: University student looking for experience in contributing to Open Office.

2015-10-29 Thread Damjan Jovanovic
On Wed, Oct 28, 2015 at 2:27 PM, #PATHANGI JANARDHANAN JATINSHRAVAN# < jatinshr...@e.ntu.edu.sg> wrote: > Hi, > As I have said previously, I am a 3rd year university student. I have more > than 2 years experience with Java, C and Python and brief experience with > C++ (although I believe I can

Re: [QUESTION] Usability of Non-Optional Java Dependencies

2015-10-29 Thread Rory O'Farrell
On Thu, 29 Oct 2015 10:44:52 -0700 "Dennis E. Hamilton" wrote: > The Java dependency problem keeps coming up buried in other threads. I am > redirecting the most recent case so we can put light on this situation. > > Before the dependencies on Java are increased/improved, I

RE: Remove outdated Copyright-Approved Persons and Companies list

2015-10-29 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
Thank you for bringing this to the attention of the Apache OpenOffice project. The list is from the site as it existed before Apache OpenOffice was established. It specifies facts that are not under the independent control of the

Wrong version number on the German download page

2015-10-29 Thread Jörg Schmidt
Hello, on the German download page (http://www.openoffice.org/de/downloads/index.html) is to display the version number (in the right list box) still 4.1.1. (only the display of the version number is defect, the download is correct 4.1.2) Can someone please correct? Greetings, Jörg .

Re: Pending release tasks

2015-10-29 Thread Marcus
Am 10/29/2015 01:42 PM, schrieb Andrea Pescetti: Marcus wrote: Gavin will have a look for the problem. We will go on tomorrow. The site builds correctly now: https://ci.apache.org/builders/ooo-site-site-staging but I haven't checked if all your commits were properly applied (the ones to the

Re: [QUESTION] Usability of Non-Optional Java Dependencies

2015-10-29 Thread Simon Phipps
One more factor to consider is that the official Java installer promoted by Oracle tries really hard to trick the end-user into installing adware/spyware at the same time. We used to avoid this in the Sun installer by bundling Java, but having it as an external dependency for new AOO users means

Re: [QUESTION] Usability of Non-Optional Java Dependencies

2015-10-29 Thread Greg Bullock
Would you confirm that, about the adware/spyware tricks? If confirmed, that would definitely interest me. Perhaps it's just my obliviousness or rapidly fading memory, but I don't recall ever seeing a trap on Oracle's Java download trying to install adware/spyware.

Re: [QUESTION] Usability of Non-Optional Java Dependencies

2015-10-29 Thread Patricia Shanahan
In that case, the basic program should definitely be in Java, to avoid buffer overflows, undefined operations, and pointer arithmetic. The Java security issues are associated with attempts to run untrusted code in various controlled environments. That includes applets, as well as well as

Re: Wrong version number on the German download page

2015-10-29 Thread Marcus
Am 10/29/2015 07:49 PM, schrieb Jörg Schmidt: on the German download page (http://www.openoffice.org/de/downloads/index.html) is to display the version number (in the right list box) still 4.1.1. (only the display of the version number is defect, the download is correct 4.1.2) all is fine

review requested: [Issue 126612] Update notification for 4.1.2 : [Attachment 85086] Proposed /openoffice/updates-site/trunk/aoo411/check.Update

2015-10-29 Thread bugzilla
Kay has asked for review: Issue 126612: Update notification for 4.1.2 https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=126612 Attachment 85086: Proposed /openoffice/updates-site/trunk/aoo411/check.Update https://bz.apache.org/ooo/attachment.cgi?id=85086=edit

Re: [QUESTION] Usability of Non-Optional Java Dependencies

2015-10-29 Thread Patricia Shanahan
See, for example, http://superuser.com/questions/549028/how-can-i-prevent-ask-com-toolbar-from-being-installed-every-time-java-is-update I just did a simple default install of the current JRE, and it did not offer Ask.com, so maybe Oracle has seen the error of their ways. On 10/29/2015 11:57

Re: [QUESTION] Usability of Non-Optional Java Dependencies

2015-10-29 Thread Patricia Shanahan
For AOO to achieve its full potential it must be possible to use it while assuming "Java" refers to an island one of whose exports is coffee beans. However, in normal home and office environments, the people doing installation are often more technically knowledgeable, and more likely to RTFM

Re: [QUESTION] Usability of Non-Optional Java Dependencies

2015-10-29 Thread Damjan Jovanovic
On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 7:44 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: > The Java dependency problem keeps coming up buried in other threads. I am > redirecting the most recent case so we can put light on this situation. > > Before the dependencies on Java are increased/improved, I think

Re: Pending release tasks

2015-10-29 Thread Rory O'Farrell
On Thu, 29 Oct 2015 20:34:55 +0100 Marcus wrote: > Am 10/29/2015 12:41 AM, schrieb Marcus: > > Am 10/28/2015 11:12 PM, schrieb Marcus: > >> Am 10/28/2015 09:46 PM, schrieb Andrea Pescetti: > >>> On 28/10/2015 20:00, Marcus wrote: > http://www.openoffice.org/download/ >

Re: [QUESTION] Usability of Non-Optional Java Dependencies

2015-10-29 Thread Patricia Shanahan
On 10/29/2015 12:20 PM, Damjan Jovanovic wrote: On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 7:44 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: ... Three paths come to mind. A. Remove the Java dependencies. Impossible. JDBC drivers for example, are the lifeblood of Base. It depends on what you mean by

Re: [QUESTION] Usability of Non-Optional Java Dependencies

2015-10-29 Thread toki
On 10/29/2015 07:20 PM, Damjan Jovanovic wrote: >> Three paths come to mind. >> A. Remove the Java dependencies. > Impossible. JDBC drivers for example, are the lifeblood of Base. FWIW, the hardest, to the point of being impossible to replace, is the stuff that a11y tools rely on. jonathon

Re: Pending release tasks

2015-10-29 Thread Marcus
Am 10/29/2015 08:46 PM, schrieb Rory O'Farrell: On Thu, 29 Oct 2015 20:34:55 +0100 Marcus wrote: Am 10/29/2015 12:41 AM, schrieb Marcus: Am 10/28/2015 11:12 PM, schrieb Marcus: Am 10/28/2015 09:46 PM, schrieb Andrea Pescetti: On 28/10/2015 20:00, Marcus wrote:

Re: [QUESTION] Usability of Non-Optional Java Dependencies

2015-10-29 Thread Patricia Shanahan
I checked my Java Control Panel and I have "Suppress sponsor offers when installing or updating Java" checked, so my install experience is not useful information. I don't remember checking it, but it would be a no-brainer first time I saw it in the control panel, considering how I feel about

Re: [QUESTION] Usability of Non-Optional Java Dependencies

2015-10-29 Thread Greg Bullock
Thank you, to both of you, for the confirmation and the linked references. Greg On 10/29/2015 1:07 PM, Simon Phipps wrote: It's not just third-party reports like the one both you and I have cited. Oracle also documents its installation of adware/spyware with Java:

Re: Wrong version number on the German download page

2015-10-29 Thread Jörg Schmidt
> From: Marcus [mailto:marcus.m...@wtnet.de] > Am 10/29/2015 07:49 PM, schrieb Jörg Schmidt: > > on the German download page > (http://www.openoffice.org/de/downloads/index.html) is to > display the version number (in the right list box) still 4.1.1. > > > > (only the display of the version

Re: Thinking of joining OpenOffice as a developer

2015-10-29 Thread Andrea Pescetti
Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: From: Patricia Shanahan I started with https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/Building_Guide/Building_o n_Windows, but hit some issues and want to make sure I'm using the right guide. The first line of that page says "This page is archived for historical

Re: Thinking of joining OpenOffice as a developer

2015-10-29 Thread Patricia Shanahan
On 10/29/2015 3:08 PM, Andrea Pescetti wrote: Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: From: Patricia Shanahan I started with https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/Building_Guide/Building_o n_Windows, but hit some issues and want to make sure I'm using the right guide. The first line of that page

Re: Pending release tasks

2015-10-29 Thread Andrea Pescetti
Rory O'Farrell wrote: On Thu, 29 Oct 2015 20:34:55 +0100 Marcus wrote: And I think I know what went wrong: I've committed to fast, and not waited for finishing the staging build before committing the next change. Probably it was my fault then. I updated the Italian site while you were

Re: Thank you!

2015-10-29 Thread Andrea Pescetti
RA Stehmann wrote: Very special thanks go to Andrea. Thanks! But truth is, thanks must go me as much as to everybody else. Dozens, maybe even hundreds, of people spent days (and, more often, nights) working to make this release happen. A number of them are credited at

Re: Thinking of joining OpenOffice as a developer

2015-10-29 Thread Patricia Shanahan
On 10/29/2015 10:56 AM, Damjan Jovanovic wrote: On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 7:32 PM, Patricia Shanahan wrote: ... What is the best guide to building AOO on Windows 8? I started with https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/Building_Guide/Building_on_Windows, but hit some

[QUESTION] Usability of Non-Optional Java Dependencies

2015-10-29 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
The Java dependency problem keeps coming up buried in other threads. I am redirecting the most recent case so we can put light on this situation. Before the dependencies on Java are increased/improved, I think there is a crucial usability matter. 1. Currently users are trap-doored by

RE: Thinking of joining OpenOffice as a developer

2015-10-29 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
While that sentiment was expressed on a thread about another topic, it should be understood that the idea of *increasing* Java dependency does not reflect an agreed project direction. Before that could be considered, it seems to me that a number of issues around Java dependency need to be

Re: Pending release tasks

2015-10-29 Thread Marcus
Am 10/29/2015 11:50 PM, schrieb Andrea Pescetti: Rory O'Farrell wrote: On Thu, 29 Oct 2015 20:34:55 +0100 Marcus wrote: And I think I know what went wrong: I've committed to fast, and not waited for finishing the staging build before committing the next change. Probably it was my fault then.

Re: Bitte Hilfe bei Übersetzung Release-Notes

2015-10-29 Thread Jörg Schmidt
Hallo Marcus, > From: Marcus [mailto:marcus.m...@wtnet.de] > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?page > Id=61318804 > > ich weiß jetzt nicht, ob die Release Notes fertig sind. Falls > ja, dann > lösche bitte den roten Draft-Satz. Dann kann ich den AOO > 4.1.2 Download

Thank you!

2015-10-29 Thread RA Stehmann
Hello, heartfelt thanks go to all of you, who worked on 4.1.2. It is a precision landing for OpenRheinRuhr http://openrheinruhr.de and T-DOSE http://www.t-dose.org/ . Very special thanks go to Andrea. Kind regards Michael signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: Reporting broken download link

2015-10-29 Thread Rory O'Farrell
On Thu, 29 Oct 2015 04:08:11 +0300 Виктор wrote: > dont work > > > http://archive.apache.org/dist/openoffice/4.1.2/binaries/ru/ Apache_OpenOffice_4.1.2_Win_x86_install_ru.exe.md5 If having problems downloading Oo 4.1.2 you may need to force the page to refresh or else

Reporting broken download link

2015-10-29 Thread Виктор
dont work > http://archive.apache.org/dist/openoffice/4.1.2/binaries/ru/Apache_OpenOffice_4.1.2_Win_x86_install_ru.exe.md5 and > http://archive.apache.org/dist/openoffice/4.1.2/binaries/ru/Apache_OpenOffice_4.1.2_Win_x86_install_ru.exe.sha256 *Problem description* *Exchange this text to describe