Re: OpenOffice and SourceForge: cruel wedding

2016-01-08 Thread Fernando Cassia 
On Fri, Jan 8, 2016 at 2:54 AM, Dave Fisher  wrote:

> Patience! Let's see what Roberto has to say


Something has been puzzling me lately. What if this is delliberate?. I
mean, people setting up these "fake AOO" sites and then joining the SF.net
advertisers network only to hurt AOO?.

Can an individual project hosted on SF.net, choose to only display adverts
from advertisers that have a long track record of "no problems/complaints"
(a "scoring" if you prefer)? That would be a good way to remove the people
who join the sf.net advertising network with the only purpose to do these
AOO scams and hurt AOO.

Besides the "removal" of offending advertisers, is there any other legal
action that could be taken by the ASF, SF.net, or both? Can we at least
know who they are and publicly shame them? (I suppose if the adverts
networks can pay revenue to them, that they already know who they are and
whom to send the checks to).

Just thinking aloud...
FC


-- 
During times of Universal Deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary
act
Durante épocas de Engaño Universal, decir la verdad se convierte en un Acto
Revolucionario
- George Orwell

Re: OpenOffice and SourceForge: cruel wedding

2016-01-08 Thread Roberto Galoppini 
Thanks for your patience, what follows it's the result of a joint meeting
with our AdOps team and  our Managing Director.

Ad Ops has paused the Google Ad Exchange ad serving on SourceForge.net's
Apache Open Office project pages. This will continue while the team
completes our review of the Ad Exchange blocking rules and controls with
the Google team.

Having said that, I wish to share with you all some background information
about the whole process to ban ads and advertisers that are not compliant
with our advertising policies.

Ad Exchange blocking rules are our first tool of control to block
advertising that is non-compliant with company policy. They are quite
effective, though not perfect solutions. Unfortunately when malicious
advertisers find a way to fool the system, they are eventually able to
inject ads that are confusing. Under the Clean Software Alliance umbrella
we're collaborating with them to prevent similar ads to get into the
marketplace, hopefully that would help them to refine their policies and
tools over time.

As a second layer of control, our ad operations department regularly
reviews the advertising from the Ad Exchange and manually removes
advertising and advertisers that bypass the technology controls. They are
at the domain and advertiser-level, and are permanent.

We also have had some success with the community feedback element to our ad
quality process that includes a community feedback form. This has been
helpful for us to improve the timeliness of removing ad violations, but it
needs end-users' input.

With regard to our direct sales and partner advertisers, they remain active
and in full compliance with SourceForge ad quality specifications and
policies, and we never had similar issues with them.

Stay tuned, I will circle back with you next week with more information on
progress with our review of policy and ad quality controls.

Thanks,

Roberto





2016-01-08 8:54 GMT+01:00 Dave Fisher :

> The choice to go with sourceforge was not about stats. OpenOffice binaries
> are quite substantial. There was concern about if all the Apache mirrors
> could handle the load.
>
> Patience! Let's see what Roberto has to say. SourceForge has been generous.
>
> Regards,
> Dave
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Jan 7, 2016, at 11:36 PM, Jan Høydahl  wrote:
> >
> > Apache’s mirrors already have the binaries, and should handle the load.
> Are we afraid of losing DL stats, is that why we stick with SF?
> >
> > --
> > Jan Høydahl, search solution architect
> > Cominvent AS - www.cominvent.com
> >
> >> 8. jan. 2016 kl. 04.46 skrev Dave Fisher :
> >>
> >> Hi Roberto,
> >>
> >> Is it possible for SourceForge to implement an active blocking if any
> ad that has "Office" or "OpenOffice" anywhere in the content?
> >>
> >> I understand there are technical challenges. If that is difficult is it
> possible to simply block all ads?
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >> Dave
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >>
> >>> On Jan 7, 2016, at 9:19 AM, Roberto Galoppini <
> roberto.galopp...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Thanks for heads up, both the account and its creatives have been
> blocked.
> >>>
> >>> Roberto
> >>>
> >>> 2016-01-07 15:38 GMT+01:00 FR web forum :
> >>>
> 
>  Today, we have 2 users that have pay for a fake OpenOffice2015
> 
> 
> 
> https://googleads.g.doubleclick.net/aclk?sa=l=Cqhy-1neOVt6KL-WpiQackZzAAYfp7MoH34WD-LgC1MrWdxABIIyB2hdg-4GAgLAKoAGp7IrZA8gBAeACAKgDAcgDmwSqBPsBT9D93xyCmQFS_5cpebROSJIQQYhzPjW-d8gS6i5e9e6WcA9njfDOVKAw8-SrAE-m1FAWOPwK7I8kJLuzeW18mmM3gOHS1aSw4C6NYt0wS9AKBjIPEo_getXfGxWWSaHMgh8Xq80OerSeu1x7X9o0SkdbYCBdCkfTipVtmML8em6ClO-YlXOwZQCyaAfDexZH-XvEUA5LfIu3rNFvn2B7AgfcRm9BBQ9Y1Ws7O_TN38v09G1YWLj9LSzfKWZiCJ3xbHztJJPsC1xQfhsfp5Wfc_aSOAMj5hR1OzHdfsJ0L9mW4DQvcaunuhh53UgHQJwICQwS32fUA_Lo7SLgBAGAB7-T9SaoB6a-G9gHAQ=1=AOD64_0CRVAtU-eX-IKwATP1aS0yl-nOBg=ca-pub-4006818487458500=27=263=22=2=0=144=http://opf2.fisseef.com/fr%3Futm_campaign%3Dopenoffice2%26utm_source%3Dgoogle
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Updating the WHY section of www.openoffice.org

2016-01-08 Thread Jan Høydahl 
Hi

I filed bug https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=126777 about outdated WHY 
sub page "Office 2003 EOL”.
See issue for details. Dennis requested that the discussion continues in this 
mailing list.

My initial concern was that an outdated web page looks really bad, referring to 
2014 as a date yet to come signals that noone actively cares for the web page.

Then there is the policy issue of mocking competitors. You find several 
passages in the “WHY” section talking about Microsoft Office and cost. Perhaps 
someone should give the whole WHY section some love and care and make sure we 
are well within Apache policies.

Thanks.

--
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Cominvent AS - www.cominvent.com


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Re: OpenOffice and SourceForge: cruel wedding

2016-01-08 Thread toki 
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On 08/01/2016 20:54, Roberto Galoppini wrote:
> Thanks for your patience, what follows it's the result of a joint meet
ing
> with our AdOps team and  our Managing Director.

Is "our AdOps team" a SourceForge team, or an Apache Software Foundation
Team?

jonathon
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New Dev Volunteer

2016-01-08 Thread Mugdha Mohapatra 
Hello!
   I'm Mugdha. I'm from India, doing BE(Hons.) in Computer Science from
Birla Institute of Technology and Science, Pilani University. I really want
to contribute to this open source project. I know the basics in C and C++
language.  Any help would to get me started would be appreciated.

Thank you,
Regards
Mugdha Mohapatra.

Re: New Dev Volunteer

2016-01-08 Thread Damjan Jovanovic 
Hi Mugdha

Welcome to Apache OpenOffice! It's wonderful of you to want to contribute.
Your C and C++ skills would be valuable here.

If you wish to get started with development, you should probably first
check out the source code and get it to compile (what platform are you on?):
http://openoffice.apache.org/source.html
https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/Building_Guide_AOO

and here's some helpful development links:
http://openoffice.apache.org/orientation/intro-development.html.
https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/DevGuide
https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Hacking
https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Source_code_directories
https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Architecture/Process_Flow

Do you have any idea of what bugs you'd like to fix or features you'd like
to add?

All the best, and please feel free to contact me with any questions.

Regards
Damjan


On Fri, Jan 8, 2016 at 11:55 AM, Mugdha Mohapatra <
mohapatramugdh...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hello!
>I'm Mugdha. I'm from India, doing BE(Hons.) in Computer Science from
> Birla Institute of Technology and Science, Pilani University. I really want
> to contribute to this open source project. I know the basics in C and C++
> language.  Any help would to get me started would be appreciated.
>
> Thank you,
> Regards
> Mugdha Mohapatra.
>