Re: Inquiries

[Fernando Cassia]

[This somehow landed on the dev list]

On 8/28/16, John Yoko Ono Lennon  wrote:
> Does Apache have
> Old English font available?
> How stable is it?
> I have used WPS but it always collapses.
> Upgrade costs?

Apache Open Office uses whatever fonts you have installed on your system.
Once you have a new font installed on your system, AOO will show it,
and you will be able to use it in your documents.

This web site has 44 Old English fonts available for free download
http://www.1001fonts.com/old-english-fonts.html

I have downloaded e.g. Canterbury fonts from the above page, extracted
the .ttf to the fonts folder on my system (since I use LinuxMint, a
variant of Ubuntu Linux, I used as destination the fonts folder
/usr/share/fonts/truetype/openoffice - but if you use Windows it's
usually c:\windows\fonts, on Mac, check your OS documentation, I can't
help you with fruity OS), and lo and behold, I could use it on my AOO
text documents, just by selecting the font name from the drop-down
menu.

Here is a screenshot:
https://s12.postimg.org/ul6oec2ul/font.png

Hope this helps. Good luck!
FC
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Re: Fwd: Re: Questions about buildbot internals

[Gav]

On Mon, Aug 29, 2016 at 4:10 AM, Kay Schenk  wrote:

>
>
> On 08/28/2016 10:52 AM, Don Lewis wrote:
> > On 28 Aug, Kay Schenk wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> On 08/27/2016 06:22 PM, Gav wrote:
> >>> Hi.
> >>>
> >>> On Sun, Aug 28, 2016 at 11:01 AM, Don Lewis 
> wrote:
> >>>
>  On 28 Aug, Gav wrote:
> > On Sun, Aug 28, 2016 at 10:47 AM, Don Lewis 
> wrote:
> >
> >> On 28 Aug, Gav wrote:
> >>> Hi Don,
> >>>
> >>> On Sun, Aug 28, 2016 at 10:31 AM, Don Lewis 
>  wrote:
> >>>
>  On 28 Aug, Gav wrote:
> > junit 4.11 is installed on the new buildbots we are prepping for
>  use
> >> fwiw
> 
>  We'll also need hamcrest version 1.3.
> 
> >>>
> >>> Ubuntu 14.04 LTS python-hamcrest is version 1.8 , is that too new?
> >>> I'd like to try and stick to what the Ubuntu apt-get packages
> provide,
> >>> if not possible, alternate uris where we can get other versions
> from.
> >>
> >> We don't want python-hamcrest.  We just want the hamcrest1.3.jar
> file.
> >> I think this is it:
> >>  >> all/1.3/hamcrest-all-1.3.jar>
> >>
> >>
> > ok, in that case should we just not add it as a buildbot buildstep to
> > download it during a build ?
> 
>  That was something that Damjan suggested as a possibility, but the
>  question was whether ext_sources was an appropriate place to stash it
> as
>  it is a compiled artifact.
> 
>  Based on this old bug report:
>  , you
> might
>  want to investigate whether the junit package actually include
> hamcrest
>  as well.
> 
> 
> >>> I expanded the install /usr/share/java/junit4.jar and saw no evidence
> of
> >>> hamcrest - and
> >>> the bug you reference is still open, so not fixed I guess :/
> >>>
> >>> I found where it is being actively developed (junit4 and junit5) on
> GitHub.
> >>>
> >>> https://github.com/junit-team/junit4/blob/master/pom.xml
> >>>
> >>>  Shows that it pulls in hamcrest as a dependency - does that mean it
> makes
> >>> it available
> >>> for use ? I don't know.
> >>
> >> First of all, thank you for all this work, Gav!
> >>
> >> If you've got information on the complete pack for Junit4 (4.11), can
> >> you see if ANY hamcrest jar is included? I personally just manually
> >> downloaded hamcrest-core-1.3.jar, put into /usr/share/java and made a
> >> sym link called just  hamcrest.jar to it.
> >
> > I don't have a Ubuntu 14 VM handy, but I just got my Ubuntu 16 VM
> > working again.  Junit doesn't install hamcrest, and python-hamcrest
> > doesn't either.  The package that does install hamcrest-all.jar is
> > libhamcrest-java.
> >
>
> Thanks for checking on all this, Don, and you are absolutely correct!
> Gav, it seems what we should install  on the new 14.04 systems is this:
>
> http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/libhamcrest1.2-java


Great, that works.


>
> This should work with the default junit 4.11. We do not want or need the
> hamcrest-python.
>
> Unless something's changed significantly in the junit tests (and I have
> not researched this), this should work for us. We used junit 4.11 for
> testing on AOO 4.1.1.
>

ack, default junit4 on 14.04 LTS Ubuntu is 4.11 so all good there.

Thanks.

-- 
Gav...

RE: Java 32 Redux

[Dennis E. Hamilton]

There's also a proposal to rework the error messages.  I started over a year 
ago, and was flummoxes on not wanting there to be multiple warnings in the same 
message (having to do with how exception messages are combined).  It would be 
worth getting back to for 4.2.

 - Dennis

> -Original Message-
> From: Kay Schenk [mailto:ksch...@apache.org]
> Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2016 16:07
> To: dev@openoffice.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Java 32 Redux
> 
> 
> 
> On 01/08/2015 03:36 PM, V Stuart Foote wrote:
> >> I've added a background color and icon. The text was also
> >
> > It certainly won't be missed now...
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> 
> No, it won't. It seems using a 32-bit Java on a 64-bit Windows
> environment continues to be a source of frustration for end users.
> 
> We'll be changing System Requirements generally for 4.2. But, meanwhile,
> could this lovely message box be added as a second paragraph to the
> current System Requirements page?
> 
> http://www.openoffice.org/dev_docs/source/sys_reqs_aoo41.html
> 
> On another related thread, Juergen had suggested an added parameter of
> -d32 to run the 64 bit Java in 32 bit mode. Unfortunately this only
> applies to *nix variants and maybe(?) MacOSX. Windows doesn't have it.
> it's too bad, because it certainly would be an easy fix.
> 
> 
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> 
> 
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> 
> Kay Schenk
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> 
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Re: Java 32 Redux

[Kay Schenk]

On 01/08/2015 03:36 PM, V Stuart Foote wrote:
>> I've added a background color and icon. The text was also
> 
> It certainly won't be missed now...
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 

No, it won't. It seems using a 32-bit Java on a 64-bit Windows
environment continues to be a source of frustration for end users.

We'll be changing System Requirements generally for 4.2. But, meanwhile,
could this lovely message box be added as a second paragraph to the
current System Requirements page?

http://www.openoffice.org/dev_docs/source/sys_reqs_aoo41.html

On another related thread, Juergen had suggested an added parameter of
-d32 to run the 64 bit Java in 32 bit mode. Unfortunately this only
applies to *nix variants and maybe(?) MacOSX. Windows doesn't have it.
it's too bad, because it certainly would be an easy fix.


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Kay Schenk
Apache OpenOffice

"Things work out best for those who make
 the best of the way things work out."
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Re: Fwd: Re: Questions about buildbot internals

[Kay Schenk]

On 08/28/2016 10:52 AM, Don Lewis wrote:
> On 28 Aug, Kay Schenk wrote:
>>
>>
>> On 08/27/2016 06:22 PM, Gav wrote:
>>> Hi.
>>>
>>> On Sun, Aug 28, 2016 at 11:01 AM, Don Lewis  wrote:
>>>
 On 28 Aug, Gav wrote:
> On Sun, Aug 28, 2016 at 10:47 AM, Don Lewis  wrote:
>
>> On 28 Aug, Gav wrote:
>>> Hi Don,
>>>
>>> On Sun, Aug 28, 2016 at 10:31 AM, Don Lewis 
 wrote:
>>>
 On 28 Aug, Gav wrote:
> junit 4.11 is installed on the new buildbots we are prepping for
 use
>> fwiw

 We'll also need hamcrest version 1.3.

>>>
>>> Ubuntu 14.04 LTS python-hamcrest is version 1.8 , is that too new?
>>> I'd like to try and stick to what the Ubuntu apt-get packages provide,
>>> if not possible, alternate uris where we can get other versions from.
>>
>> We don't want python-hamcrest.  We just want the hamcrest1.3.jar file.
>> I think this is it:
>> > all/1.3/hamcrest-all-1.3.jar>
>>
>>
> ok, in that case should we just not add it as a buildbot buildstep to
> download it during a build ?

 That was something that Damjan suggested as a possibility, but the
 question was whether ext_sources was an appropriate place to stash it as
 it is a compiled artifact.

 Based on this old bug report:
 , you might
 want to investigate whether the junit package actually include hamcrest
 as well.


>>> I expanded the install /usr/share/java/junit4.jar and saw no evidence of
>>> hamcrest - and
>>> the bug you reference is still open, so not fixed I guess :/
>>>
>>> I found where it is being actively developed (junit4 and junit5) on GitHub.
>>>
>>> https://github.com/junit-team/junit4/blob/master/pom.xml
>>>
>>>  Shows that it pulls in hamcrest as a dependency - does that mean it makes
>>> it available
>>> for use ? I don't know.
>>
>> First of all, thank you for all this work, Gav!
>>
>> If you've got information on the complete pack for Junit4 (4.11), can
>> you see if ANY hamcrest jar is included? I personally just manually
>> downloaded hamcrest-core-1.3.jar, put into /usr/share/java and made a
>> sym link called just  hamcrest.jar to it.
> 
> I don't have a Ubuntu 14 VM handy, but I just got my Ubuntu 16 VM
> working again.  Junit doesn't install hamcrest, and python-hamcrest
> doesn't either.  The package that does install hamcrest-all.jar is
> libhamcrest-java.
> 

Thanks for checking on all this, Don, and you are absolutely correct!
Gav, it seems what we should install  on the new 14.04 systems is this:

http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/libhamcrest1.2-java

This should work with the default junit 4.11. We do not want or need the
hamcrest-python.

Unless something's changed significantly in the junit tests (and I have
not researched this), this should work for us. We used junit 4.11 for
testing on AOO 4.1.1.


-- 

Kay Schenk
Apache OpenOffice

"Things work out best for those who make
 the best of the way things work out."
 -- John Wooden

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Re: Fwd: Re: Questions about buildbot internals

[Don Lewis]

On 28 Aug, Kay Schenk wrote:
> 
> 
> On 08/27/2016 06:22 PM, Gav wrote:
>> Hi.
>> 
>> On Sun, Aug 28, 2016 at 11:01 AM, Don Lewis  wrote:
>> 
>>> On 28 Aug, Gav wrote:
 On Sun, Aug 28, 2016 at 10:47 AM, Don Lewis  wrote:

> On 28 Aug, Gav wrote:
>> Hi Don,
>>
>> On Sun, Aug 28, 2016 at 10:31 AM, Don Lewis 
>>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 28 Aug, Gav wrote:
 junit 4.11 is installed on the new buildbots we are prepping for
>>> use
> fwiw
>>>
>>> We'll also need hamcrest version 1.3.
>>>
>>
>> Ubuntu 14.04 LTS python-hamcrest is version 1.8 , is that too new?
>> I'd like to try and stick to what the Ubuntu apt-get packages provide,
>> if not possible, alternate uris where we can get other versions from.
>
> We don't want python-hamcrest.  We just want the hamcrest1.3.jar file.
> I think this is it:
>  all/1.3/hamcrest-all-1.3.jar>
>
>
 ok, in that case should we just not add it as a buildbot buildstep to
 download it during a build ?
>>>
>>> That was something that Damjan suggested as a possibility, but the
>>> question was whether ext_sources was an appropriate place to stash it as
>>> it is a compiled artifact.
>>>
>>> Based on this old bug report:
>>> , you might
>>> want to investigate whether the junit package actually include hamcrest
>>> as well.
>>>
>>>
>> I expanded the install /usr/share/java/junit4.jar and saw no evidence of
>> hamcrest - and
>> the bug you reference is still open, so not fixed I guess :/
>> 
>> I found where it is being actively developed (junit4 and junit5) on GitHub.
>> 
>> https://github.com/junit-team/junit4/blob/master/pom.xml
>> 
>>  Shows that it pulls in hamcrest as a dependency - does that mean it makes
>> it available
>> for use ? I don't know.
> 
> First of all, thank you for all this work, Gav!
> 
> If you've got information on the complete pack for Junit4 (4.11), can
> you see if ANY hamcrest jar is included? I personally just manually
> downloaded hamcrest-core-1.3.jar, put into /usr/share/java and made a
> sym link called just  hamcrest.jar to it.

I don't have a Ubuntu 14 VM handy, but I just got my Ubuntu 16 VM
working again.  Junit doesn't install hamcrest, and python-hamcrest
doesn't either.  The package that does install hamcrest-all.jar is
libhamcrest-java.


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Re: upgrading bundled openssl

[Andrea Pescetti]

On 22/08/2016 Don Lewis wrote:

On 21 Aug, Andrea Pescetti wrote:

https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=126312 is the reference issue
for the serf upgrade and I know there was more than what is written in
the issue, so you can ask for clarifications directly there in the comments.

I think I'm going to attempt to build with scons.  Windows is likely to
be the most problematic, but even there it it looks like it could be
feasible.


Plan looks good. It is mostly the approach from 
https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=126312#c1 "if there is 
availability of python natively, and the build is native, just install 
python (min vers is 2.7) and install SCons (min ver is 2.3.0)" but with 
the nice trick of using the Python we already build anyway.


The patch contributed by Giuseppe and left out of 4.1.2 worked on 
Windows (reportedly) but not on Mac.


Still, whichever alternate approach you choose, I feel that a brief 
preliminary description in the issue itself could be useful.


Regards,
  Andrea.

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Re: To Apache Open Office : Glitch on centering of page.

[Rory O'Farrell]

On Sun, 28 Aug 2016 02:36:57 + (UTC)
Robert Taylor  wrote:

> Hello:BTW, I am 70 and quite retired.  So, I really appreciate the price 
> compared to MS - Office.  Also, the interface seem quite intuitive and easier 
> to function rather than MS - Office.   So, you guys (and girls) get an A+ and 
> Micro Soft gets a C. 
> As i get older and develop more of a  tremor,  I really appreciate using the 
> addressing of the envelope function.  In a way, I really  wish the envelope 
> sizes were set up like the  Avery label function.     However, set up for 
> Hallmark, American Greetings and  whatever brands are out  there.
> Because what I now do is measure the envelope to the 1/100th of an inch and 
> then enter that size in manually to  a custom size.  Precise but slow.    
> 
> 
>  I have a  glitch in my Open Office Apache  Word/text Writer.  
> I have been working on this for several hours and I can't get the program to 
> straighten out.. 
> BTW, on this machine I am running Windows-7  Home Premium edition.    My 
> version of Open Office is  V: 4.1.2.   The Rev. is :  1709696                 
>      AOO412m3 Build 9782
> 
> The problem is this :  
> When I open up Open Office Writer,  the sheet is not centered so I can write 
> on the formatted page.
> instead the page appears  at the extreme right hand and I have to drag the 
> whole page into the center.   I never had to do that before.  It is 
> frustrating.   I have tried to center the page then turn off the computer in 
> the hopes that the program would remember the correct position and would auto 
> correct.  It does not happen.  
> If you would please tell me the steps so I can get the page to be centered.  
> I would be most grateful
> 
> Of course this had to happen on a weekend. So,  hopefully I will get a reply 
> on Monday.  
> Please contact me at :  Robert Taylor,      
> Thank You for your help,  
> Robet Taylor  

Bottom right of OO window there are three little icons.  Leftmost icon is a 
single page. The next icon to right is two pages side by side and the third is 
a left/right book opening. 

Click on the leftmost icon then click in the % box in the corner (or /View 
/Zoom) and adjust scaling to suit your need.

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Re: dmake

[Don Lewis]

On 27 Aug, Pedro Giffuni wrote:
>> On 28 Aug, Gav wrote:
>>> when did you try that last Don?
>>>
>>> That url comes up oops 404
>>
>> I last tried that in the last few weeks, but have been using a cached
>> copy since then.
>>
>> This page lists lots of mirrored copies:
>> 
>>
>> It looks like development has moved to GitHub:
>> 
> 
> and this is exactly what I was going to say ...
> 
> With the demise of Google code the project moved to github and is under 
> a new maintainer (FreeBSD uses the new github version).
> 
> Perhaps we should mirror dmake-4.12.2, which was the last version 
> released on apache-extras, on sourceforge and update the build link.

That seems like the easiest thing to do.  I tried downloading from
GitHub and ran into a complication.  The tarfile name downloaded from
github is DMAKE_4_12_2_2.tar.gz, but it unpacks into the directory
dmake-DMAKE_4_12_2_2 and bootstrap can't cope with that.  I could fix
bootstrap, but that only helps trunk.  Nothing could be done to fix
4.1.2 other than re-rolling the tarball.

At least for now, the new dmake download URL is:



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