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Re: Writing up the release process

2016-10-13 Thread Keith N. McKenna

Pedro wrote:
> One last step needed: update the version number somewhere so that
> current OpenOffice users are warned that a new version is available.
> Currently version 4.1.2 still reports that it "is up to date"
> 
> Thank you all for keeping the project alive.

I have added the your comment to the cwiki document. The change to the
update script is usually done several days after the formal Release
announcement so as to minimize the load on the mirrors.

regards
Keith
> 

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Re: Bugzilla needs version 4.1.3 added

2016-10-13 Thread Keith N. McKenna

Marcus wrote:
> Am 10/13/2016 09:34 PM, schrieb Keith N. McKenna:
>> Marcus wrote:
>>> Am 10/13/2016 08:18 PM, schrieb Keith N. McKenna:
 With the announcement of the Release of version 4.1.3 that revision
 should be added to Bugzilla so that bugs can be reported against it.
 Currently only 4.1.3-dev is active and for latest confirmation on the
 latest available is 4.1.2
>>>
>>> right, I'll do this as next task. However, this needs definetely added
>>> as important task to the cookbook. Will you do this?
>>>
>> Done
> 
> and BZ is also updated. :-)
> 

The version drop down list for the Latest Confirmation In field also
needs to be updated with 4.1.3.

Keith

> Marcus
> 
> 
> 
>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/How+to+Cook+a+Release
>>>
>>>
>>> You just need to add some text. Don't care about formatting or order. We
>>> will do this later when everything (hopefully ;-) ) is there.
>>>
>>> Hey, it's a great idea when you would coordinate the creation of this
>>> cookbook. Then you learn more about the whole process, can add opinions
>>> from your point of view, etc.
>>>
>>> What do you think?




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Re: Writing up the release process

2016-10-13 Thread Pedro

One last step needed: update the version number somewhere so that 
current OpenOffice users are warned that a new version is available. 
Currently version 4.1.2 still reports that it "is up to date"


Thank you all for keeping the project alive.

On 12/10/2016 22:49, Patricia Shanahan wrote:
First, congratulations to everyone on releasing 4.1.3. If this were a 
conventional, co-located project I'd like to take you all out for a 
drink after work.


Now back to work :-)

At this moment, I hope everyone remembers exactly what they did, what 
karma and tools they used, to make the release happen. I would like to 
get that written up now, before steps get forgotten. That way, future 
release managers will be not be as helpless and confused as I was.


I'm thinking of creating "How to cook a release" as a child page under 
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Releases, but 
given my inability to delete pages I would like to get opinions first.


My general idea is to keep it initially free-form. Just add what you 
did, and how you did it, before you forget anything. I can organize it 
later, or maybe a technical writer will organize it?


We can use the 4.1.4 release to verify and fix any omissions in the 
recipe.


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Re: Bugzilla needs version 4.1.3 added

2016-10-13 Thread Keith N. McKenna

Marcus wrote:
> Am 10/13/2016 09:34 PM, schrieb Keith N. McKenna:
>> Marcus wrote:
>>> Am 10/13/2016 08:18 PM, schrieb Keith N. McKenna:
 With the announcement of the Release of version 4.1.3 that revision
 should be added to Bugzilla so that bugs can be reported against it.
 Currently only 4.1.3-dev is active and for latest confirmation on the
 latest available is 4.1.2
>>>
>>> right, I'll do this as next task. However, this needs definetely added
>>> as important task to the cookbook. Will you do this?
>>>
>> Done
> 
> and BZ is also updated. :-)
> 
> Marcus
> 
> 
> 
>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/How+to+Cook+a+Release
>>>
>>>
>>> You just need to add some text. Don't care about formatting or order. We
>>> will do this later when everything (hopefully ;-) ) is there.
>>>
>>> Hey, it's a great idea when you would coordinate the creation of this
>>> cookbook. Then you learn more about the whole process, can add opinions
>>> from your point of view, etc.
>>>
>>> What do you think?
Great. Thanks Marcus.



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Re: Writing up the release process

2016-10-13 Thread Keith N. McKenna

Andrea Pescetti wrote:
> Keith N. McKenna wrote:
>> Can you restore my space admin privileges on the Cwiki. I had removed
>> all but my basic privileges.
> 
> Sure! I've now given you all permissions I could assign. I hope this is
> enough; if not, we must contact Infra (but it seems that I could assign
> the space admin permissions so it should be OK now).
> 
> Regards,
>   Andrea.
They are all back Andrea. Thank you very much.




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Re: Eine offene Mail an die deutsche Community und die deutschen PMC-Vertreter

2016-10-13 Thread Jörg Schmidt

Hallo Michael, *, 

Sorry, aber ich muss etwas dazu sagen und deutlich werden, denn auch wenn Deine 
Antwort ja nicht falsch ist, ist sie doch so diplomatisch das sie den Kern der 
Probleme nur streift. 

> From: Dr. Michael Stehmann [mailto:anw...@rechtsanwalt-stehmann.de] 

> Ich sehe nicht, dass Mitglieder der deutschsprachigen Community an
> verschiedenen Strängen zögen. Ich finde, dass die deutschsprachige
> Community im Rahmen ihrer Möglichkeiten eine engagierte und
> fruchtbringende Arbeit leistet.

In lass mich gerne 'prügeln', aber mein Statement dazu ist: Nein, das ist nicht 
wirklich so, denn in Wahrheit steht hier ein halbes Dutzend Leute eher 
abwartend da, weil sie nicht konkret wissen was sie tun können und/oder mit den 
Rahmenbedingungen so unzufrieden sind das sie nur sporadisch etwas tun und 
zusätzlich schätze ich das nochmal ein Dutzend Leute diese Liste hier mitliest 
die wir zu Mitarbeit bewegen könnten wenn wir die Bedingungen verbessern.

Überwiegend sind das alles Leute denen das Verständnis für den quasi besonderen 
Stil der Community-Arbeitsweise fehlt und darin kann ich sie verdammt gut 
verstehen, denn mir ging das ursprünglich mal genauso und das ich noh hier bin 
ist nur dem Zufall geschuldet das ich quasi persönliche Mentoren hatte (z.B. 
Thomas K. und Andre Sch.)

> Ich sehe auch, dass das internationale Projekt bereit und willens ist,
> Fehler, die in diesem ersten Release-Prozess in "Community-Hand" fast
> notwendigerweise aufgetreten sind, festzustellen, um daraus für die
> Zukunft zu lernen.
> 
> Ich bin auch schon sehr gespannt auf die Dokumentation, die bereits in
> Arbeit ist. Dabei ist bemerkenswert, dass es dort nicht nur technische
> Fragen angesprochen werden.
> 
> Es ist jetzt die Zeit, den Schwung, der durch den Ruck in der 
> Community
> entstanden ist, auszunutzen. Wir haben nun etwas in der Hand, auf das
> wir, wenn man die Umstände sieht, unter denen es entstehen 
> musste, stolz
> sein können. Wenn es so weiterläuft, werden wir bald das 
> nächste Release
> haben, bei dem wir alles besser machen können.

Das sind alles Aussagen die für die internationale Liste passen, aber für hier 
zu ungenau sind.

Es tut mir wirklich leid, nur ohne jede weitere Umschweife: 
das Problem das wir (und potentiell alle lokalen AOO-Communities) haben ist die 
unzureichende Selbstständigkeit und die Tatsache das wir der internationalen 
Klärung dieser Frage seit Jahren ausweichen.
(und wie wenig ich hierbei eigentlich Apache an Schuld zuweise, hatte ich schon 
in meinem anderen Post thematisiert) 

Ich habe überhaupt nicht die Absicht hier und heute Streit zu beginnen, allein 
bitte ich in aller Ernsthaftigkeit dieses Problem doch endlich einmal ernsthaft 
wahrzunehmen. 
Wie weitgehend wir diesbezüglich etwas verbessern können wird sich zeigen, nur 
weiterhin so zu tun als gäbe es das Problem nicht, heisst nichts Anderes als 
das bei de-AOO alles weiterhin nur auf Sparflamme kochen wird wie bisher.

Deinen (Michael) persönlichen Einsatz für de-AOO kritisiere ich im Übrigen 
überhaupt nicht, aber ich bitte doch nun mal um Ernsthaftigkeit z.B. bei der 
Beurteilung das Deine und Mechthildes Messeauftritte (und gelegentliche 
Auftritte der ProOO-Box) nicht andeutungsweise das repräsenieren wozu früher, 
bei de-OOo, die Community ganz selbstverständlich in der Lage war.
Da hilft auch keine Entschuldigung das wir heute weniger Leute sind, denn das 
wir das überhaupt sind hat ja gerade mit nicht optimalen Bedingungen zu tun, 
Bedingungen die wir selbst gestalten, für die wir (moralisch) verantwortlich 
sind.



Gruß
Jörg


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Re: AOO 4.1.3 announce - pt-BR translation

2016-10-13 Thread Marcus


Am 10/13/2016 03:42 PM, schrieb Claudio Ferreia Filho:


I don't know how is your strategy to publish the translations, but IMHO
they can be added in the announce at Apache Blog.


as we'll have more translated text we've created a container page to 
collect all. See the link at top of the announcement [1].



Anyway, the pt-BR translation is published at cwiki[1],as a child page.
[1]https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=65875077


I've set a link to your translation on the Portuguese webpage [2]. The 
big blue link in the header.



Congratulations for all by more one step in AOO.


Thanks a lot. :-)

[1] https://s.apache.org/JiCT
[2] http://www.openoffice.org/pt/

Marcus


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Re: Writing up the release process

2016-10-13 Thread Andrea Pescetti


Keith N. McKenna wrote:

Can you restore my space admin privileges on the Cwiki. I had removed
all but my basic privileges.


Sure! I've now given you all permissions I could assign. I hope this is 
enough; if not, we must contact Infra (but it seems that I could assign 
the space admin permissions so it should be OK now).


Regards,
  Andrea.

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Re: AOO 4.1.3 announce - pt-BR translation

2016-10-13 Thread Sally Khudairi

Thanks, Andrea --DONE!
Warm regards,Sally
  From: Andrea Pescetti 
 To: dev@openoffice.apache.org; sally Khudairi  
 Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2016 4:57 PM
 Subject: Re: AOO 4.1.3 announce - pt-BR translation

Claudio Ferreia Filho wrote:
> I don't know how is your strategy to publish the translations, but IMHO
> they can be added in the announce at Apache Blog.

Sally, could you please add a "Translations" link at the beginning of 
your post 
https://blogs.apache.org/foundation/entry/the_apache_openoffice_project_announces

and let it point at 
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.1.3+Announcement 
where we are storing translations?

(see the dev list archives if you need more context, but this is all we 
need at the moment)

Thanks,
  Andrea.

Re: [CWiki] Account Whitelisting

2016-10-13 Thread Andrea Pescetti


Joerg Sievers wrote:

jogi
Joerg Sievers


Whitelisted.

Andrea

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Re: AOO 4.1.3 announce - pt-BR translation

2016-10-13 Thread Andrea Pescetti


Claudio Ferreia Filho wrote:

I don't know how is your strategy to publish the translations, but IMHO
they can be added in the announce at Apache Blog.


Sally, could you please add a "Translations" link at the beginning of 
your post 
https://blogs.apache.org/foundation/entry/the_apache_openoffice_project_announces 
and let it point at 
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.1.3+Announcement 
where we are storing translations?


(see the dev list archives if you need more context, but this is all we 
need at the moment)


Thanks,
  Andrea.

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Re: Bugzilla needs version 4.1.3 added

2016-10-13 Thread Marcus


Am 10/13/2016 09:34 PM, schrieb Keith N. McKenna:

Marcus wrote:

Am 10/13/2016 08:18 PM, schrieb Keith N. McKenna:

With the announcement of the Release of version 4.1.3 that revision
should be added to Bugzilla so that bugs can be reported against it.
Currently only 4.1.3-dev is active and for latest confirmation on the
latest available is 4.1.2


right, I'll do this as next task. However, this needs definetely added
as important task to the cookbook. Will you do this?


Done


and BZ is also updated. :-)

Marcus




https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/How+to+Cook+a+Release

You just need to add some text. Don't care about formatting or order. We
will do this later when everything (hopefully ;-) ) is there.

Hey, it's a great idea when you would coordinate the creation of this
cookbook. Then you learn more about the whole process, can add opinions
from your point of view, etc.

What do you think?


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Re: This can not be true

2016-10-13 Thread Marcus


Am 10/13/2016 09:12 AM, schrieb Andrea Pescetti:

Jörg Schmidt wrote:

no reasonable planning takes place.
How can it be that even though *there was a help offer for the
translation*, a press release is simply published in English without
coordinating internationally?


I agree with Joerg here. We did it for the release notes, and we can do
it for the announcements (Press releases) too.

Two thing must be said: there was no time for coordination since the
press release had been accidentally made available before the planned
date; and the press release is traditionally kept confidential before
issuing it (while the Release notes are not).

Still, I agree that translation volunteers must be given access to the
Press Release so that they can translate it and issue it soon after the
English one. We must make sure to do so starting with the next release.


I'm sorry when something was not understood. I got the request from 
Joerg (and Dick for Dutch) to translate it press release. However, there 
was not hint that we should wait until this is ready. I really didn't 
thought that this was important.


We will add this task to the cookbook and consider it for the next release.

Again, I'm sorry when the timing was not perfectly coordinated.


https://blogs.apache.org/foundation/entry/the_apache_openoffice_project_announces


Joerg, what if we create a copy of the Press Release on the CWiki and we
append each translation as child page? Would it work? I'm going to do
the same for Italian as soon as I have some time for it. And then we
will edit the English blog post to link to translations.


That's for sure a good idea. Then we can link to the translated text.

Marcus


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Re: Bugzilla needs version 4.1.3 added

2016-10-13 Thread Keith N. McKenna

Marcus wrote:
> Am 10/13/2016 08:18 PM, schrieb Keith N. McKenna:
>> With the announcement of the Release of version 4.1.3 that revision
>> should be added to Bugzilla so that bugs can be reported against it.
>> Currently only 4.1.3-dev is active and for latest confirmation on the
>> latest available is 4.1.2
> 
> right, I'll do this as next task. However, this needs definetely added
> as important task to the cookbook. Will you do this?
> 
Done

> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/How+to+Cook+a+Release
> 
> You just need to add some text. Don't care about formatting or order. We
> will do this later when everything (hopefully ;-) ) is there.
> 
> Hey, it's a great idea when you would coordinate the creation of this
> cookbook. Then you learn more about the whole process, can add opinions
> from your point of view, etc.
> 
> What do you think?
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Marcus




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Re: AOO 4.1.3 announced on en-Forum

2016-10-13 Thread Marcus


Am 10/13/2016 03:23 PM, schrieb FR web forum:

I've announced on fr-Forum and modified index.html on fr website.
Somebody can commit this page?
Thanks

- Mail original -
De: "Rory O'Farrell"
À: dev@openoffice.apache.org
Envoyé: Jeudi 13 Octobre 2016 10:49:56
Objet: AOO 4.1.3 announced on en-Forum

I have posted a sticky announcement of the availability of AOO 4.1.3 on the 
en-Forum, advising to use only the main download site and its redirection. Also 
in the posting is a link to the release announcement.


please have a look. I can see 4.1.3 on the "index.html" now.

Marcus


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RE: Eine offene Mail an die deutsche Community und die deutschen PMC-Vertreter

2016-10-13 Thread Jan-Christian Wienandt

Moin Claudia,

damit meine ich nicht Deine Frage.

> -Original Message-
> From: C. Wiebe [mailto:clad...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2016 9:23 PM
> To: dev-de@openoffice.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Eine offene Mail an die deutsche Community und die deutschen
> PMC-Vertreter
> 
> Meinst Du mich wg. meiner Frage oder die Apachis Claudia Wiebe
> clad...@gmail.com Am 13.10.2016 um 21:06 schrieb Jan-Christian Wienandt:
> > Moin Jörg,
> >
> >
> > … denn sie wissen nicht, was sie tun
> >
> > Gruß
> > Jan
> >
> >
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Re: Eine offene Mail an die deutsche Community und die deutschen PMC-Vertreter

2016-10-13 Thread C. Wiebe


Meinst Du mich wg. meiner Frage oder die Apachis
Claudia Wiebe clad...@gmail.com
Am 13.10.2016 um 21:06 schrieb Jan-Christian Wienandt:

Moin Jörg,


… denn sie wissen nicht, was sie tun

Gruß
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RE: Eine offene Mail an die deutsche Community und die deutschen PMC-Vertreter

2016-10-13 Thread Jan-Christian Wienandt

Moin Jörg,


… denn sie wissen nicht, was sie tun

Gruß
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Re: Bugzilla needs version 4.1.3 added

2016-10-13 Thread Keith N. McKenna

Marcus wrote:
> Am 10/13/2016 08:18 PM, schrieb Keith N. McKenna:
>> With the announcement of the Release of version 4.1.3 that revision
>> should be added to Bugzilla so that bugs can be reported against it.
>> Currently only 4.1.3-dev is active and for latest confirmation on the
>> latest available is 4.1.2
> 
> right, I'll do this as next task. However, this needs definetely added
> as important task to the cookbook. Will you do this?
> 
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/How+to+Cook+a+Release
> 
> You just need to add some text. Don't care about formatting or order. We
> will do this later when everything (hopefully ;-) ) is there.
> 
> Hey, it's a great idea when you would coordinate the creation of this
> cookbook. Then you learn more about the whole process, can add opinions
> from your point of view, etc.
> 
> What do you think?
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Marcus
Can do for both.

Keith



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Re: Release Archives

2016-10-13 Thread Marcus


Am 10/13/2016 08:38 PM, schrieb Matthias Seidel:

Small glitch:

http://openoffice.apache.org/downloads.html

"Release Archives" the "Current Version 4.1.2" should be renamed to
"Apache OpenOffice 4.1.2"


thanks for the hint. It'll be fixed together with more 4.1.3 changes 
this evening.


Marcus


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Re: Bugzilla needs version 4.1.3 added

2016-10-13 Thread Marcus


Am 10/13/2016 08:18 PM, schrieb Keith N. McKenna:

With the announcement of the Release of version 4.1.3 that revision
should be added to Bugzilla so that bugs can be reported against it.
Currently only 4.1.3-dev is active and for latest confirmation on the
latest available is 4.1.2


right, I'll do this as next task. However, this needs definetely added 
as important task to the cookbook. Will you do this?


https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/How+to+Cook+a+Release

You just need to add some text. Don't care about formatting or order. We 
will do this later when everything (hopefully ;-) ) is there.


Hey, it's a great idea when you would coordinate the creation of this 
cookbook. Then you learn more about the whole process, can add opinions 
from your point of view, etc.


What do you think?

Thanks

Marcus


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Release Archives

2016-10-13 Thread Matthias Seidel

Small glitch:

http://openoffice.apache.org/downloads.html

"Release Archives" the "Current Version 4.1.2" should be renamed to
"Apache OpenOffice 4.1.2"

regards

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Re: Writing up the release process

2016-10-13 Thread Keith N. McKenna

Andrea Pescetti wrote:
> Patricia Shanahan wrote:
 I'm thinking of creating "How to cook a release" as a child page under
 https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Releases, but
 given
 my inability to delete pages I would like to get opinions first.
> 
> You can now delete pages. and in general, if people do not have enough
> permissions to do their tasks, this must be fixed the obvious way, i.e.,
> by granting those permissions.
> 
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/How+to+Cook+a+Release
>>
>> If anyone has material but cannot edit the page, just e-mail me your
>> notes and I'll add it.
> 
> ...or, again, just ask for permissions to edit pages here and they will
> be granted. You need an account first.
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Wiki+Home explains
> what you need to do.
> 
> Regards,
>   Andrea.
Can you restore my space admin privileges on the Cwiki. I had removed
all but my basic privileges. User name is keith.mcke...@comcast.net

Thanks
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Bugzilla needs version 4.1.3 added

2016-10-13 Thread Keith N. McKenna

With the announcement of the Release of version 4.1.3 that revision
should be added to Bugzilla so that bugs can be reported against it.
Currently only 4.1.3-dev is active and for latest confirmation on the
latest available is 4.1.2

Regards
Keith



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Re: "Latest version" on Sourceforge

2016-10-13 Thread Marcus


Am 10/13/2016 07:20 PM, schrieb Matthias Seidel:

Thanks!

This should definitely go into the release instructions...


actually it is, but it's not in the right order. Therefore I've 
overlooked it yesterday. This needs to be changed for the next release. 
I've now changed the default.


Thanks

Marcus




Am 13.10.2016 um 19:17 schrieb Dave Brondsema:

On 10/13/16 1:11 PM, Rory O'Farrell wrote:

On Thu, 13 Oct 2016 18:57:14 +0200
Matthias Seidel  wrote:


The "latest version" on
https://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/files/ is still
pointing to 4.1.2.

I think this had to be set manually on sourceforge...

regards

Matthias


Clear your browser cache and 4.1.3 will show up.


I took the liberty of changing this just a few minutes ago.

It would be good to include this in the release instructions.  After making the
folder unstaged, just go into the subdirs and click the "i" icon for the Mac
release, and mark it as default.  Repeat for Windows&  Linux.  Other types don't
really matter too much.


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Re: "Latest version" on Sourceforge

2016-10-13 Thread Dave Brondsema

On 10/13/16 1:11 PM, Rory O'Farrell wrote:
> On Thu, 13 Oct 2016 18:57:14 +0200
> Matthias Seidel  wrote:
> 
>> The "latest version" on
>> https://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/files/ is still
>> pointing to 4.1.2.
>>
>> I think this had to be set manually on sourceforge...
>>
>> regards
>>
>> Matthias
>>
> 
> Clear your browser cache and 4.1.3 will show up.
> 

I took the liberty of changing this just a few minutes ago.

It would be good to include this in the release instructions.  After making the
folder unstaged, just go into the subdirs and click the "i" icon for the Mac
release, and mark it as default.  Repeat for Windows & Linux.  Other types don't
really matter too much.

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Re: "Latest version" on Sourceforge

2016-10-13 Thread Matthias Seidel

Thanks!

This should definitely go into the release instructions...


Am 13.10.2016 um 19:17 schrieb Dave Brondsema:
> On 10/13/16 1:11 PM, Rory O'Farrell wrote:
>> On Thu, 13 Oct 2016 18:57:14 +0200
>> Matthias Seidel  wrote:
>>
>>> The "latest version" on
>>> https://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/files/ is still
>>> pointing to 4.1.2.
>>>
>>> I think this had to be set manually on sourceforge...
>>>
>>> regards
>>>
>>> Matthias
>>>
>> Clear your browser cache and 4.1.3 will show up.
>>
> I took the liberty of changing this just a few minutes ago.
>
> It would be good to include this in the release instructions.  After making 
> the
> folder unstaged, just go into the subdirs and click the "i" icon for the Mac
> release, and mark it as default.  Repeat for Windows & Linux.  Other types 
> don't
> really matter too much.
>
>




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Re: "Latest version" on Sourceforge

2016-10-13 Thread Matthias Seidel

That was not the point, the directory was visible...

But now the link is OK! ;-)


Am 13.10.2016 um 19:11 schrieb Rory O'Farrell:
> On Thu, 13 Oct 2016 18:57:14 +0200
> Matthias Seidel  wrote:
>
>> The "latest version" on
>> https://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/files/ is still
>> pointing to 4.1.2.
>>
>> I think this had to be set manually on sourceforge...
>>
>> regards
>>
>> Matthias
>>
> Clear your browser cache and 4.1.3 will show up.
>




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Re: "Latest version" on Sourceforge

2016-10-13 Thread Rory O'Farrell

On Thu, 13 Oct 2016 18:57:14 +0200
Matthias Seidel  wrote:

> The "latest version" on
> https://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/files/ is still
> pointing to 4.1.2.
> 
> I think this had to be set manually on sourceforge...
> 
> regards
> 
> Matthias
> 

Clear your browser cache and 4.1.3 will show up.

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"Latest version" on Sourceforge

2016-10-13 Thread Matthias Seidel

The "latest version" on
https://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/files/ is still
pointing to 4.1.2.

I think this had to be set manually on sourceforge...

regards

Matthias



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2016-10-13 Thread Joerg Sievers

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AOO 4.1.3 announce - pt-BR translation

2016-10-13 Thread Claudio Ferreia Filho

Hi

I don't know how is your strategy to publish the translations, but IMHO
they can be added in the announce at Apache Blog.

Anyway, the pt-BR translation is published at cwiki[1],as a child page.
[1]https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=65875077

Congratulations for all by more one step in AOO.

Regards,
Claudio Ferreira

Re: AOO 4.1.3 announced on en-Forum

2016-10-13 Thread FR web forum

I've announced on fr-Forum and modified index.html on fr website.
Somebody can commit this page?
Thanks

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I have posted a sticky announcement of the availability of AOO 4.1.3 on the 
en-Forum, advising to use only the main download site and its redirection. Also 
in the posting is a link to the release announcement.

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Re: Writing up the release process

2016-10-13 Thread Jim Jagielski


> On Oct 12, 2016, at 6:05 PM, Patricia Shanahan  wrote:
> 
> On 10/12/2016 2:55 PM, Marcus wrote:
>> Am 10/12/2016 11:49 PM, schrieb Patricia Shanahan:
>>> First, congratulations to everyone on releasing 4.1.3. If this were a
>>> conventional, co-located project I'd like to take you all out for a
>>> drink after work.
>>> 
>>> Now back to work :-)
>>> 
>>> At this moment, I hope everyone remembers exactly what they did, what
>>> karma and tools they used, to make the release happen. I would like to
>>> get that written up now, before steps get forgotten. That way, future
>>> release managers will be not be as helpless and confused as I was.
>>> 
>>> I'm thinking of creating "How to cook a release" as a child page under
>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Releases, but given
>>> my inability to delete pages I would like to get opinions first.
>> 
>> JFDI ;-)
> 
> Done. 
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/How+to+Cook+a+Release
> 
> If anyone has material but cannot edit the page, just e-mail me your notes 
> and I'll add it.

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Re: This can not be true

2016-10-13 Thread Andrea Pescetti


Jörg Schmidt wrote:

From: Andrea Pescetti
Joerg, what if we create a copy of the Press Release on the
CWiki and we
append each translation as child page? Would it work?

Yes, that would be a possibility.


Page created at 
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.1.3+Announcement 
; people interested in translating it can add a child page for their 
language.


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Re: Writing up the release process

2016-10-13 Thread Andrea Pescetti


Patricia Shanahan wrote:

I'm thinking of creating "How to cook a release" as a child page under
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Releases, but given
my inability to delete pages I would like to get opinions first.


You can now delete pages. and in general, if people do not have enough 
permissions to do their tasks, this must be fixed the obvious way, i.e., 
by granting those permissions.



https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/How+to+Cook+a+Release
If anyone has material but cannot edit the page, just e-mail me your
notes and I'll add it.


...or, again, just ask for permissions to edit pages here and they will 
be granted. You need an account first. 
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Wiki+Home explains 
what you need to do.


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Re: This can not be true

2016-10-13 Thread Peter Kovacs

+1

Andrea Pescetti  schrieb am Do., 13. Okt. 2016, 09:12:

> Jörg Schmidt wrote:
> > no reasonable planning takes place.
> > How can it be that even though *there was a help offer for the
> translation*, a press release is simply published in English without
> coordinating internationally?
>
> I agree with Joerg here. We did it for the release notes, and we can do
> it for the announcements (Press releases) too.
>
> Two thing must be said: there was no time for coordination since the
> press release had been accidentally made available before the planned
> date; and the press release is traditionally kept confidential before
> issuing it (while the Release notes are not).
>
> Still, I agree that translation volunteers must be given access to the
> Press Release so that they can translate it and issue it soon after the
> English one. We must make sure to do so starting with the next release.
>
> >
> https://blogs.apache.org/foundation/entry/the_apache_openoffice_project_announces
>
> Joerg, what if we create a copy of the Press Release on the CWiki and we
> append each translation as child page? Would it work? I'm going to do
> the same for Italian as soon as I have some time for it. And then we
> will edit the English blog post to link to translations.
>
> Regards,
>Andrea.
>
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AOO 4.1.3 announced on en-Forum

2016-10-13 Thread Rory O'Farrell

I have posted a sticky announcement of the availability of AOO 4.1.3 on the 
en-Forum, advising to use only the main download site and its redirection. Also 
in the posting is a link to the release announcement.

Rory

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Re: This can not be true

2016-10-13 Thread Patricia Shanahan


On 10/12/2016 11:55 PM, Jörg Schmidt wrote:

Hello Apache, Hello OpenOffice-PMC, Hello Community,

I am absolutely horrified that in a situation where we have to overcome 
problems together, no reasonable planning takes place.


I have started a Wiki page on "How to Cook a Release", 
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/How+to+Cook+a+Release, 
so that we will know everything that needs to be done and how to do it. 
That should reduce the risk of something important getting missed. I'm 
adding a section on Translations.


What documents, other than the release notes and the press release, 
should be translated?





How can it be that even though *there was a help offer for the translation*, a 
press release is simply published in English without coordinating 
internationally?

How could appear the following article (which is supposed to be a press 
release) without waiting for possible translations?

https://blogs.apache.org/foundation/entry/the_apache_openoffice_project_announces



I disagree with this approach.


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Re: This can not be true

2016-10-13 Thread Jörg Schmidt

Hello, 

> From: Andrea Pescetti [mailto:pesce...@apache.org] 

> Two thing must be said: there was no time for coordination since the 
> press release had been accidentally made available before the planned 
> date; and the press release is traditionally kept confidential before 
> issuing it (while the Release notes are not).
> 
> Still, I agree that translation volunteers must be given 
> access to the 
> Press Release so that they can translate it and issue it soon 
> after the 
> English one. 

Exactly, that is the problem.

I am ready to make a translation as quickly as possible, but I need practically 
at least 24-48 hours of time.


> Joerg, what if we create a copy of the Press Release on the 
> CWiki and we 
> append each translation as child page? Would it work? 

Yes, that would be a possibility.

I have little time, because of my professional activity, but I will try to make 
the translation as fast as possible. I think within 48 hours.


Greetings,
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Re: This can not be true

2016-10-13 Thread Andrea Pescetti


Jörg Schmidt wrote:

no reasonable planning takes place.
How can it be that even though *there was a help offer for the translation*, a 
press release is simply published in English without coordinating 
internationally?


I agree with Joerg here. We did it for the release notes, and we can do 
it for the announcements (Press releases) too.


Two thing must be said: there was no time for coordination since the 
press release had been accidentally made available before the planned 
date; and the press release is traditionally kept confidential before 
issuing it (while the Release notes are not).


Still, I agree that translation volunteers must be given access to the 
Press Release so that they can translate it and issue it soon after the 
English one. We must make sure to do so starting with the next release.



https://blogs.apache.org/foundation/entry/the_apache_openoffice_project_announces


Joerg, what if we create a copy of the Press Release on the CWiki and we 
append each translation as child page? Would it work? I'm going to do 
the same for Italian as soon as I have some time for it. And then we 
will edit the English blog post to link to translations.


Regards,
  Andrea.

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This can not be true

2016-10-13 Thread Jörg Schmidt

Hello Apache, Hello OpenOffice-PMC, Hello Community,

I am absolutely horrified that in a situation where we have to overcome 
problems together, no reasonable planning takes place.

How can it be that even though *there was a help offer for the translation*, a 
press release is simply published in English without coordinating 
internationally?

How could appear the following article (which is supposed to be a press 
release) without waiting for possible translations?

https://blogs.apache.org/foundation/entry/the_apache_openoffice_project_announces



I disagree with this approach.


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