Re: Bugzilla needs version 4.1.3 added

[Damjan Jovanovic]

Also what happened to 4.2.0-dev in the "Latest confirmation in:"  field?


On Thu, Oct 13, 2016 at 8:18 PM, Keith N. McKenna  wrote:

> With the announcement of the Release of version 4.1.3 that revision
> should be added to Bugzilla so that bugs can be reported against it.
> Currently only 4.1.3-dev is active and for latest confirmation on the
> latest available is 4.1.2
>
> Regards
> Keith
>
>

Re: [Issue58861] Bugzilla too intimidating ?

[Marcus]

Am 10/19/2016 10:23 PM, schrieb Peter Kovacs:


On 19.10.2016 12:06, Pedro wrote:

[...]


I wanted to know in case if there is a change to Jira planned if we want
this Issue to operate on.


no, there are no plans. And as you have seen it already correctly, it 
would be a hugh effort to do a successful migration of old BZ data into 
new Jira data.



In my opinion a Bug tracker is Dev Space not user space. And even if
when I try to give a user a satisfactory answer, I am fine if someone
else gives a non satisfactory answers.
And most Answers we currently close tickets with are none user friendly.

In my opinion it would need a Community team instead of a QA team to
translate User issues (from a Forum?) into Bug tracker Issues. But we
dont have that ressources I think. We can only work through the Mess we
have and see if we find stuff worth solving.


Unfortunately, ACK.


Sorry for the rather negative picture. But I checked and we have 3000+
unconfirmed Issues. I will try to help here as much as I can. But I also
want to develop something. And it is realy not easy if there is the


There is a webpage that tries to guide the user to file an issue via a 
simpler approach [1]. Maybe you find it worth to look at it and develop 
it further.



thing you want to do in one corner and the thing that makes sense in the
other corner. This is a bit frustrating Picture for me. :P


I fully understand you. Personally I also would like to do more in BZ 
but it's difficult to satisfy all (or most) user questions/requests.


[1] http://www.openoffice.org/qa/issue_handling/pre_submission.html

Marcus


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Re: [Issue58861] Bugzilla too intimidating ?

[Peter Kovacs]

On 19.10.2016 12:06, Pedro wrote:

Hi Peter, all

Bugzilla is a technical tool designed by developers for developers.
The simple fact that you need to subscribe to bugzilla is the first 
obstacle to reporting a bug.
As a long time bug reporter I consider that Bugzilla is NOT user 
friendly. It is possibly the most systematic tool available.


I am not aware of any bug tracker system that is user friendly... I 
think that it's not possible to be systematic, concise, accurate and 
friendly at the same time.
Haha, sorry. Thats not my opinion. I am quite content with Bugzilla as 
it is.


What argument would you use to close it? NOT_AN_ISSUE is not true. It 
is definitely not OBSOLETE...
Maybe WONT_FIX with the true argument that the community does not have 
the manpower to switch to another tool.
done. I did not waste a thought on this. For me Not An Issue is as true 
as wont fix. The result is the same. But I think it is also nit picking, 
and wont fix, might be more aceptable then not accepting the issue of 
someone else, i changed it.


I wanted to know in case if there is a change to Jira planned if we want 
this Issue to operate on.
In my opinion a Bug tracker is Dev Space not user space. And even if 
when I try to give a user a satisfactory answer, I am fine if someone 
else gives a non satisfactory answers.

And most Answers we currently close tickets with are none user friendly.

In my opinion it would need a Community team instead of a QA team to 
translate User issues (from a Forum?) into Bug tracker Issues. But we 
dont have that ressources I think. We can only work through the Mess we 
have and see if we find stuff worth solving.
Sorry for the rather negative picture. But I checked and we have 3000+ 
unconfirmed Issues. I will try to help here as much as I can. But I also 
want to develop something. And it is realy not easy if there is the 
thing you want to do in one corner and the thing that makes sense in the 
other corner. This is a bit frustrating Picture for me. :P


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Re: [Issue 127143] Startcenter crash on iMac with macOS Sierra

[Marcus]

Am 10/19/2016 02:06 AM, schrieb Larry Gusaas:

On 2016-10-18, 3:22 PM Marcus wrote:


Am 10/17/2016 03:42 AM, schrieb bugzi...@apache.org:

https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=127143

Jochen Hager changed:

What |Removed |Added


Status|UNCONFIRMED |RESOLVED
Resolution|--- |FIXED

--- Comment #19 from Jochen Hager ---
Changing Color Profiles worked for me! Crash ist gone. There were two
modified
color profile in the selection box. I picked a generic iMAC profile
from the
selection of preset profile. Voila! Distortion gone and no more crashes.


is this an acceptable solution or just a workaround? I've no clue what
this means on Mac.

Thanks

Marcus


It is just a workaround. There have been several reports of this problem
on the current (late 2015) iMacs. Changing the colour profile for the
display to a non standard one seems to fix the problem. However this
could change the colour balance on the display. I don't have an iMac and
the problem doesn't occur on my 13" MacBook Pro. I haven't updated my
15" MacBook Pro to macOS Sierra yet. AOO 4.1 3 has no problems on OS X
ElCapitan.

The current 27" iMac has a 5K display. The 21" has a 4K display. I
wouldn't want to use a generic colour profile if I owned one.


thanks for this update.

Marcus


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Re: Failure to build on Windows 10

[Patricia Shanahan]

Thanks. I'll try that next.

On 10/18/2016 7:30 PM, John D'Orazio wrote:

Not sure if this will fix but I myself found that avoiding paths with
spaces can fix a number of errors. So I had the Windows SDK installed to a
custom path where I substituted spaces with underscores. Then in my
configure script I have:

SDK_PATH="D:\Microsoft_SDKs\Windows\v7.0"

As for the JDK home path, I was not able to customize the installation path
but you can get the short form of the path using the cygpath tool. For
example:

cygpath -m -s "C:\Program Files (x86)\Java\jdk1.8.0_73"

will give you "C:/PROGRA~2/Java/JDK18~1.0_7", so in my configure script I
use:

--with-jdk-home="C:/PROGRA~2/Java/JDK18~1.0_7"

Same with NSIS, I installed it to a custom path with no spaces and in my
configure script I have:

--with-nsis-path="D:/NSIS"

For dmake and epm I am using the sourceforge mirrors as suggested by Andrea
Pescetti:

--with-dmake-url="
http://sourceforge.net/projects/oooextras.mirror/files/dmake-4.12.tar.bz2;
--with-epm-url="
https://sourceforge.net/projects/oooextras.mirror/files/epm-3.7.tar.gz;

Maybe give this a try and see if it helps any?

John R. D'Orazio

On Mon, Oct 17, 2016 at 12:58 AM, Patricia Shanahan  wrote:


I tried to build AOO413 on Windows 10, and got a failure:

/MAP /OPT:NOREF -safeseh -nxcompat -dynamicbase -NODEFAULTLIB -RELEASE
-DEBUG -INCREMENTAL:NO /SUBSYSTEM:CONSOLE /BASE:0x1b00
-out:../../../../../../../wntmsci12.pro/bin/create_sRGB_profile.exe
-map:../../../../../../../wntmsci12.pro/misc/create_sRGB_profile.map
../../../../../../../wntmsci12.pro/obj/create_sRGB_profile.obj
../../../../../../../wntmsci12.pro/slb/proflib.lib ../../../../../../../
wntmsci12.pro/slb/icutil.lib msvcrt.lib msvcprt.lib kernel32.lib
user32.lib oldnames.lib
linking ../../../../../../../wntmsci12.pro/bin/create_sRGB_profile.e
xe.manifest ...
dmake:  Error code 31, while making '../../../../../../../wntmsci1
2.pro/bin/create_sRGB_profile.exe'
dmake:  '../../../../../../../wntmsci12.pro/bin/create_sRGB_profile.exe'
removed.
dmake:  Error code 255, while making 'Contrib/CmdLine/create_sRGB_p
rofile/create_sRGB_profile.exe'
dmake:  Error code 255, while making './wntmsci12.pro/misc/build/so
_built_icc'

1 module(s):
icc
need(s) to be rebuilt

Reason(s):

ERROR: error 65280 occurred while making /cygdrive/c/OpenOfficeDev/AOO4
13/main/icc


I've attached the complete log, zipped, and the script containing my
configure parameters.





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Re: [Issue 127143] Startcenter crash on iMac with macOS Sierra

[Matthias Seidel]

Sounds to me like a work-around...

But maybe it should be mentioned in the release notes under "known
issues" until there is a fix?

regards, Matthias


Am 18.10.2016 um 23:22 schrieb Marcus:
> Am 10/17/2016 03:42 AM, schrieb bugzi...@apache.org:
>> https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=127143
>>
>> Jochen Hager  changed:
>>
>> What|Removed |Added
>> 
>>
>>   Status|UNCONFIRMED |RESOLVED
>>   Resolution|--- |FIXED
>>
>> --- Comment #19 from Jochen Hager  ---
>> Changing Color Profiles worked for me! Crash ist gone. There were two
>> modified
>> color profile in the selection box. I picked a generic iMAC profile
>> from the
>> selection of preset profile. Voila! Distortion gone and no more crashes.
>
> is this an acceptable solution or just a workaround? I've no clue what
> this means on Mac.
>
> Thanks
>
> Marcus
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Re: [Issue58861] Bugzilla too intimidating ?

[Pedro]

Hi Peter, all

On 18-10-2016 01:29, Peter Kovacs wrote:

There is this Bug where people request to make it simpler to file a
Problem...

I dont know. I find it intimidateing to file a bug at all.


Bugzilla is a technical tool designed by developers for developers.
The simple fact that you need to subscribe to bugzilla is the first 
obstacle to reporting a bug.
As a long time bug reporter I consider that Bugzilla is NOT user 
friendly. It is possibly the most systematic tool available.


I am not aware of any bug tracker system that is user friendly... I 
think that it's not possible to be systematic, concise, accurate and 
friendly at the same time.



Should we close this?

https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=58861


What argument would you use to close it? NOT_AN_ISSUE is not true. It is 
definitely not OBSOLETE...
Maybe WONT_FIX with the true argument that the community does not have 
the manpower to switch to another tool.



Or would we keep this as a link to maybe switch to Jira. (I personly
prefer Jira over Bugzilla. But I think it is a huge effort to switch
the tracker.)


Moving to a new tracker (even if it was more user friendly) only makes 
sense if there is a reasonable number of QA people triaging the reports 
and of developers actively fixing bugs.

Reporting a bug creates the obvious expectation that the bug will be fixed.
If the tool is friendlier/simpler it will get more bug reports but also 
more people with more expectations...


Just my 2 cents

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Re: Bugzilla scanned by robots for Spam adress

[Peter Kovacs]

Thanks, would have closed it sooner but I was awy from Private Computer 
acceess. :)




On 18.10.2016 19:17, Marcus wrote:

Am 10/18/2016 02:24 AM, schrieb Peter Kovacs:

see Bug: https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=62733

Is this still an issue?

i see it more as Infra Issue then as one for Open Office.


also this is an issue from old times. If there are still scans is hard 
to say but no unlikely. I would close it.


Marcus


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Re: [Issue58861] Bugzilla to intimidating ?

[Peter Kovacs]

cool. Thanks the Info. I have closed the ticket with an invite for 
discussion, if there is still need.




On 18.10.2016 19:19, Marcus wrote:

Am 10/18/2016 02:29 AM, schrieb Peter Kovacs:

There is this Bug where people request to make it simpler to file a
Problem...

I dont know. I find it intimidateing to file a bug at all.


Should we close this?

https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=58861


Or would we keep this as a link to maybe switch to Jira. (I personly
prefer Jira over Bugzilla. But I think it is a huge effort to switch the
tracker.)


if and when we are using Jira instead of BZ is totally unclear. So, 
not necessary to keep this issue for this case. As we cannot change 
the issue creation process in BZ we cannot do anything here. So, 
closing this old issue is what I would do.


Marcus


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