Re: Copyleft vs Permissive

2017-01-13 Thread Dr. Michael Stehmann
Am 14.01.2017 um 00:55 schrieb Peter Kovacs: > > You see that on the LO vs. OO discussion. Most of the LO argument are > market based one. If you think outside the market its all not an issue. > What Reamains is the strength of Open source as such. > In my eyes we are in a super strong position,

Community building: give our User a chance to contribute!

2017-01-13 Thread Raphael Bircher
Hi at all If we compare AOO to day with the good old OpenOffice.org Project in 2006, we have now a tiny community. Well, we will be able to maintain the project, make some bugfix and maybe some features too. But we will never track down the work who is in our issue tracker. But

Re: future of OpenOffice

2017-01-13 Thread Wolf Halton
Thanks for these reminders. I was watching odftoolkit a few years ago. Wolf Halton Mobile/Text 678-687-6104 -- Sent from my iPhone. Creative word completion courtesy of Apple, Inc. > On Jan 13, 2017, at 23:05, Dave Fisher wrote: > > Hi - > > If support for Microsoft

Re: future of OpenOffice

2017-01-13 Thread Dave Fisher
Writing a list of the top 100 defects that are easy and YOU would like fixed IS the Apache Way. You can suggest and help. What is not the Apache Way is to force others. All the best! Regards, Dave Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 13, 2017, at 7:09 PM, toki wrote: > >>

Re: future of OpenOffice

2017-01-13 Thread Dave Fisher
Hi - If support for Microsoft Office formats is desired and Java is not a problem then Apache has a 15 year old project called Apache POI. Also, Apache ODFToolkit is sitting in the Incubator for 5.5 years now with one developer - Svante. Conversion between ODF and OOXML is the only way to

Re: Copyleft vs Permissive

2017-01-13 Thread Dave Fisher
Hi - If Oracle or IBM thought they had any additional advantage with Apache OpenOffice development then the history of this project would differ. Regards, Dave Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 13, 2017, at 3:55 PM, Peter Kovacs wrote: > > > >> On 12.01.2017 11:00, Pedro

Re: future of OpenOffice

2017-01-13 Thread Peter Kovacs
+1 :-D I will pick maybe some of the stuff up. On 13.01.2017 21:38, Chuck Davis wrote: Toki, I'm very glad to hear SOMEBODY has imagination! :) It seems we've had quite a number of people coming here lately (like a professor someplace is sending them to get involved in open source) to state

Re: future of OpenOffice

2017-01-13 Thread Peter Kovacs
+1!! On 14.01.2017 00:11, Pedro wrote: Hi Damjan, all On 13/01/2017 17:15, Damjan Jovanovic wrote: On Fri, Jan 13, 2017 at 7:02 PM, Pedro wrote: There are in fact a few useful features in LO that AOO does not have: 1) Opening/saving remote files from several

Re: Copyleft vs Permissive

2017-01-13 Thread Peter Kovacs
On 12.01.2017 11:00, Pedro wrote: Hi Peter If your model works directly with the Product, the flexibility of the Permissive license can be the stronger choice. I do not believe that a lot of people understand this. Can you elaborate on this point? I don't really see how using a

Re: future of OpenOffice

2017-01-13 Thread Andrew Pitonyak
For the average user, the functional differences are irrelevant. More specifically, most people use only a fraction of the capabilities. LO offered DOCX support before AOO, and that was a difference noticeable to most users. For the hard core devoted follower, there are certainly

Re: future of OpenOffice

2017-01-13 Thread Pedro
Hi Damjan, all On 13/01/2017 17:15, Damjan Jovanovic wrote: On Fri, Jan 13, 2017 at 7:02 PM, Pedro wrote: There are in fact a few useful features in LO that AOO does not have: 1) Opening/saving remote files from several sources (OwnCloud, WebDAV, Google Drive,

Re: future of OpenOffice

2017-01-13 Thread Chuck Davis
Toki, I'm very glad to hear SOMEBODY has imagination! :) It seems we've had quite a number of people coming here lately (like a professor someplace is sending them to get involved in open source) to state they want to get involved. I hope they and their professors are taking notes from your

Re: future of OpenOffice

2017-01-13 Thread Damjan Jovanovic
On Fri, Jan 13, 2017 at 7:02 PM, Pedro wrote: > Hi Chuck > > I'm a simple user so the code base and license are completely irrelevant to >> me. What IS relevant is the way the software works. So, please, can you >> tell me half a dozen things that LO can do that OO

Re: future of OpenOffice

2017-01-13 Thread Chuck Davis
Thank you, Pedro, for some specific features you use. On Fri, Jan 13, 2017 at 9:02 AM, Pedro wrote: > Hi Chuck > > I'm a simple user so the code base and license are completely irrelevant to >> me. What IS relevant is the way the software works. So, please, can you

Re: future of OpenOffice

2017-01-13 Thread Pedro
Hi Chuck I'm a simple user so the code base and license are completely irrelevant to me. What IS relevant is the way the software works. So, please, can you tell me half a dozen things that LO can do that OO cannot do? There are in fact a few useful features in LO that AOO does not have:

Re: future of OpenOffice

2017-01-13 Thread Chuck Davis
Thank you, Jonathon, for giving us something specific. I get so weary of LO people (and most of the media world it seems) spouting how much better LO is but I fail to see it in my use cases. Most of what you have pointed out is not applicable to the vast majority of users I would guess. I keep

What is the oldest Linux that AOO can run on? Is there a policy wrt baseline libraries/distro release?

2017-01-13 Thread Fernando Cassia
I wonder what are the older Linux version that AOO-current (whatever is the latest version) will run on? I'm not concerned too much about kernel but glibc which is a common cause of hassles. And I'm trying to create a VM with the oldest possible, still supported Linux version, with AOO on it.

Reporting broken download link

2017-01-13 Thread Dewi Edwards (BCUHB - Pathology)
Hello, Hope it's not me doing anything daft but I have downloaded Open Office at home about 12 months ago for my daughter to try and I was trying to download a version to try out at work just now. Using the web page below (see first screen shot) I click on the Download Full Installation but I

Re: future of OpenOffice

2017-01-13 Thread RA Stehmann
Am 13.01.2017 um 11:39 schrieb RA Stehmann: > > I am looking for a Template for "Game of live". Sorry: "Game of life" Regards Michael signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: future of OpenOffice

2017-01-13 Thread RA Stehmann
Am 13.01.2017 um 10:43 schrieb toki: > ^1: All of the games (Flight Simulator, Space Invaders, Tick Tack Toe) > have been removed from LibO and AOo. However, templates for various > games are available. I am looking for a Template for "Game of live". Kind reagards Michael signature.asc

Re: future of OpenOffice

2017-01-13 Thread Peter Kovacs
Hello guys. It stays as it is. Currently a merge is not possible. I assume this request is not taken seriously on the LO side, since most information we had in this discussion is pointing out the differences of both sister projects and not advocate the things they share. If anyone really wants to