Re: Apache OpenOffice NG

[Dave Fisher]

Hi - continuing the top posting.

I think what Raphael is referring to is if the project should follow a pattern 
similar to Apache Subversion where only source code and no binary packages are 
provided.

If you look at https://subversion.apache.org/packages.html you will see what is 
meant. I am not sure how that would work for us. We already have a few 
“packagers”, but then also subversion is very simple compared to OpenOffice. 
The governance on deciding what is allowed on a packagers page might exceed the 
effort in maintaining viable Windows, Mac and Ubuntu/Linux builds. This is 
really the crux of “ease building”. (1)

Alternatively finding a way for a hypothetical organization to develop the 
application including security issues. The question would be who is that 
organization and would they be doing Apache OpenOffice or ${OfficeSuite} 
powered by Apache OpenOffice?

Regards,
Dave

> On May 1, 2017, at 1:44 PM, Peter Kovacs  wrote:
> 
> I am sorry not writing aß of Late. I lack time even to follow the list
> regularly atm. :(
> 
> For good code you need to compile, build the product I mean. There is no
> point in outsourcing this.
> 
> I think we are alone as long as we do not manage some fundamental reforms.
> 
> I think of:
> 1) ease building
> 2) strong generic library architecture
> 3) work tools to help in their projects
> 4) rally the Open office community behind an organization that develops the
> application
> 
> I know this is very complex because this strategy heads in different
> directions and differs a lot from current thinking. Also it is imho
> difficult to achieve since our resources are limited. In skill and in
> number.
> 
> I hope to have some more time again for open office in near future. Then I
> will let you know.
> 
> All the best
> Peter
> 
> Jörg Schmidt  schrieb am So., 23. Apr. 2017, 11:14:
> 
>>> From: Dr. Michael Stehmann [mailto:anw...@rechtsanwalt-stehmann.de]
>> 
>>> P.S.: Why should I install Apache OpenOffice on a server
>>> under wine? ;-)
>> 
>> Sorry, but my technical knowledge is far better than my English and I
>> hoped that a
>> concrete example would create more clarity than a linguistically imprecise
>> statement.
>> 
>> 
>> Jörg
>> 
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Re: [CWiki] Account Whitelisting

[Keith N. McKenna]

On 5/1/2017 3:52 PM, Jim Jagielski wrote:
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Re: Apache OpenOffice NG

[Peter Kovacs]

I am sorry not writing aß of Late. I lack time even to follow the list
regularly atm. :(

For good code you need to compile, build the product I mean. There is no
point in outsourcing this.

I think we are alone as long as we do not manage some fundamental reforms.

I think of:
1) ease building
2) strong generic library architecture
3) work tools to help in their projects
4) rally the Open office community behind an organization that develops the
application

I know this is very complex because this strategy heads in different
directions and differs a lot from current thinking. Also it is imho
difficult to achieve since our resources are limited. In skill and in
number.

I hope to have some more time again for open office in near future. Then I
will let you know.

All the best
Peter

Jörg Schmidt  schrieb am So., 23. Apr. 2017, 11:14:

> > From: Dr. Michael Stehmann [mailto:anw...@rechtsanwalt-stehmann.de]
>
> > P.S.: Why should I install Apache OpenOffice on a server
> > under wine? ;-)
>
> Sorry, but my technical knowledge is far better than my English and I
> hoped that a
> concrete example would create more clarity than a linguistically imprecise
> statement.
>
>
> Jörg
>
>
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[CWiki] Account Whitelisting

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Re: Mac OSX/macOS builds of AOO 4.1.4

[Larry Gusaas]

On 2017-05-01, 12:38 PM Jim Jagielski wrote:


The new, Sierra-buildbot build of AOO 4.1.4 is now available for
test at:

http://home.apache.org/~jim/AOO-builds/r1781484-Test/

Just one lang and package is available at present.

TIA for your testing!


Database functions that require Java work. Thanks


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Re: Mac OSX/macOS builds of AOO 4.1.4

[Jim Jagielski]

The new, Sierra-buildbot build of AOO 4.1.4 is now available for
test at:

http://home.apache.org/~jim/AOO-builds/r1781484-Test/

Just one lang and package is available at present.

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Re: Mac OSX/macOS builds of AOO 4.1.4

[Jim Jagielski]

> On May 1, 2017, at 7:53 AM, Larry Gusaas  wrote:
> 
> On 2017-05-01, 3:08 AM Andrea Pescetti wrote:
> 
>> On 27/04/2017 Jim Jagielski wrote:
>>> A sampling has been uploaded to:
>>> http://home.apache.org/~jim/AOO-builds/
>> 
>> Thanks! For Mac users testing those builds: please make sure there is no 
>> regression with respect to https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=126622 
>> (an issue with 4.1.2 that was determined to be related to build details, see 
>> Ariel's last comment there for more).
> 
> I tried using the one database I have. Any functions that require Java do not 
> work. Same as problem with 4.1.2
> 

Thanks. Yes, with these 2 reports and DMs on Twitter, it looks like
I need to upgrade my builder machine to Xcode8 which implies an
upgrade to Sierra.

Doing so as we speak.


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Re: Mac OSX/macOS builds of AOO 4.1.4

[Larry Gusaas]

On 2017-05-01, 3:08 AM Andrea Pescetti wrote:


On 27/04/2017 Jim Jagielski wrote:

A sampling has been uploaded to:
 http://home.apache.org/~jim/AOO-builds/


Thanks! For Mac users testing those builds: please make sure there is no regression with 
respect to https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=126622 (an issue with 4.1.2 that was 
determined to be related to build details, see Ariel's last comment there for more).


I tried using the one database I have. Any functions that require Java do not work. Same as 
problem with 4.1.2


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Strange error while building OO for windows

[Pavel Belski]

Hi all,

currently i'm trying to build Open Office from svn sources, closely
following the guide in
https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/Building_Guide_AOO/Step_by_step#Windows_7.2C_Windows_8.1.2C_Windows_10.
The trunk revision i currently have is

Pavel@Pavel-PC /cygdrive/c/oosources/aoo-trunk
$ svn info
Pfad: .
Wurzelpfad der Arbeitskopie: /cygdrive/c/oosources/aoo-trunk
URL: https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openoffice/trunk
Relative URL: ^/openoffice/trunk
Basis des Projektarchivs: https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf
UUID des Projektarchivs: 13f79535-47bb-0310-9956-ffa450edef68
Revision: 1793265
Knotentyp: Verzeichnis
Plan: normal
Letzter Autor: mseidel
Letzte geänderte Rev: 1793216
Letztes Änderungsdatum: 2017-04-29 18:32:21 +0200 (Sa, 29. Apr 2017)

Steps that are marked as "optional" on the Wiki page i skipped except for
usage of dbghelp.dll(i configured with --enable-dbgutil). While trying to
build with "build --all" everything goes fine until this:

=
Building module gtest
=

Entering /cygdrive/c/oosources/aoo-trunk/ext_libraries/gtest

mkdir: cannot create directory './wntmsci12/misc/build/gtest-1.7.0/': File
exists
C:/oosources/aoo-trunk/main/solenv/gbuild/Package.mk:28: ***
gb_Deliver_deliver: file does not exist in solver, and cannot b.  Stop.red:
/cygdrive/c/oosources/aoo-trunk/main/solver/420/wntmsci12/inc/gtest/gtest.h
dmake:  Error code 2, while making
'./wntmsci12/misc/build/so_built_oo_gtest'

1 module(s):
gtest
need(s) to be rebuilt

Reason(s):

ERROR: error 65280 occurred while making
/cygdrive/c/oosources/aoo-trunk/ext_libraries/gtest

When you have fixed the errors in that module you can resume the build by
running:

build --all:gtest

As i understand it couldn't build some module and so doesn't find it on the
"deliver" step. The thing is, i don't see any compiler/linker error
messages and so have no idea what's up with this and where do i even start
trying to figure it out i also have no clue. Is this even something wrong
on my end or perhaps the svn trunk i have is unbuildable. What is OO dev
policy on acceptable build status of svn trunk revisions?

Any ideas on what i should do next?

Re: Mac OSX/macOS builds of AOO 4.1.4

[Jim Jagielski]

Ugg... Since I cannot downgrade to Mt Lion, and since XCode8 on
El Capitan is full o' issues, it looks like I'll be needed to update
builder to macOS... I will wait for a few more tests but this seems
the prudent course of action.

Thx for the feedback!!
> On May 1, 2017, at 7:09 AM, Gavin McDonald  wrote:
> 
> I am using OS Siera 10.12.4
> 
> I installed Jims version en-US
> 
> Creating new database instance fine.
> Saving it fine
> Closing down the database or closing down the database window or closing down 
> Openoffice does not work.
> Literally nothing happens.
> 
> I ended up force quitting the program.
> 
> No other tests done at this point, anything else needing to be tested?
> 
> Gav…
> 
> 
>> On 1 May 2017, at 8:43 pm, Jim Jagielski  wrote:
>> 
>> For the record, the build system IS running 10.11/El Capitan, but I
>> cannot recreate the bug here. However, I strongly urge people to test as
>> Andrea sez. Worse case scenario is that I need to update the build
>> system to Sierra, and if that is the case, I'd prefer to do it asap.
>> 
>> So please test soon!
>> 
>> PS: Will likely tweet this request to gain a wider audience!
>> 
>>> On May 1, 2017, at 5:08 AM, Andrea Pescetti  wrote:
>>> 
>>> On 27/04/2017 Jim Jagielski wrote:
 A sampling has been uploaded to:
   http://home.apache.org/~jim/AOO-builds/
>>> 
>>> Thanks! For Mac users testing those builds: please make sure there is no 
>>> regression with respect to https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=126622 
>>> (an issue with 4.1.2 that was determined to be related to build details, 
>>> see Ariel's last comment there for more).
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> Andrea.
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Re: Mac OSX/macOS builds of AOO 4.1.4

[Gavin McDonald]

I am using OS Siera 10.12.4

I installed Jims version en-US

Creating new database instance fine.
Saving it fine
Closing down the database or closing down the database window or closing down 
Openoffice does not work.
Literally nothing happens.

I ended up force quitting the program.

No other tests done at this point, anything else needing to be tested?

Gav…


> On 1 May 2017, at 8:43 pm, Jim Jagielski  wrote:
> 
> For the record, the build system IS running 10.11/El Capitan, but I
> cannot recreate the bug here. However, I strongly urge people to test as
> Andrea sez. Worse case scenario is that I need to update the build
> system to Sierra, and if that is the case, I'd prefer to do it asap.
> 
> So please test soon!
> 
> PS: Will likely tweet this request to gain a wider audience!
> 
>> On May 1, 2017, at 5:08 AM, Andrea Pescetti  wrote:
>> 
>> On 27/04/2017 Jim Jagielski wrote:
>>> A sampling has been uploaded to:
>>>http://home.apache.org/~jim/AOO-builds/
>> 
>> Thanks! For Mac users testing those builds: please make sure there is no 
>> regression with respect to https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=126622 
>> (an issue with 4.1.2 that was determined to be related to build details, see 
>> Ariel's last comment there for more).
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Andrea.
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Re: Mac OSX/macOS builds of AOO 4.1.4

[Jim Jagielski]

For the record, the build system IS running 10.11/El Capitan, but I
cannot recreate the bug here. However, I strongly urge people to test as
Andrea sez. Worse case scenario is that I need to update the build
system to Sierra, and if that is the case, I'd prefer to do it asap.

So please test soon!

PS: Will likely tweet this request to gain a wider audience!

> On May 1, 2017, at 5:08 AM, Andrea Pescetti  wrote:
> 
> On 27/04/2017 Jim Jagielski wrote:
>> A sampling has been uploaded to:
>> http://home.apache.org/~jim/AOO-builds/
> 
> Thanks! For Mac users testing those builds: please make sure there is no 
> regression with respect to https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=126622 
> (an issue with 4.1.2 that was determined to be related to build details, see 
> Ariel's last comment there for more).
> 
> Regards,
>  Andrea.
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Re: Mac OSX/macOS builds of AOO 4.1.4

[Andrea Pescetti]

On 27/04/2017 Jim Jagielski wrote:

A sampling has been uploaded to:
 http://home.apache.org/~jim/AOO-builds/


Thanks! For Mac users testing those builds: please make sure there is no 
regression with respect to 
https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=126622 (an issue with 4.1.2 
that was determined to be related to build details, see Ariel's last 
comment there for more).


Regards,
  Andrea.

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Re: Openoffice installation on Mac PC

[Andrea Pescetti]

On 26/04/2017 Jim Jagielski wrote:

BTW, if we do have some signing capability suitable for the App
Store, could someone share that info for me for my AOO 4.1.4 builds.


You will find several discussions about this in the list archive, but in 
short there is no process; the closest we ever got was (for Windows) 
when we had time to sit down with Infra at ApacheCon, so this would be 
the best occasion for you to actually get this done.


Also note: last time we discussed it on this list, it turned out there 
is a substantial difference between pleasing GateKeeper (which would be 
enough for us) and getting OpenOffice into the App Store, so pleasing 
GateKeeper would already be very good progress.


Regards,
  Andrea.

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