Re: Mac OSX/macOS builds of AOO 4.1.4

[Gavin McDonald]

> On 2 May 2017, at 4:38 am, Jim Jagielski  wrote:
> 
> The new, Sierra-buildbot build of AOO 4.1.4 is now available for
> test at:
> 
>   http://home.apache.org/~jim/AOO-builds/r1781484-Test/
> 
> Just one lang and package is available at present.
> 
> TIA for your testing!

Thanks Jim thats much better, open, new,close, database all work fine now.

Cant find anything else wrong at the moment with the suite from initial looking 
around. I’d need specific bugs to check for anything else.

Gav…


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Re: 4.1.4 blockers (Was: Re: Release 4.1.3 (4.1.4))

[Keith N. McKenna]

On 5/3/2017 2:36 PM, Marcus wrote:
> Am 03.05.2017 um 11:54 schrieb Matthias Seidel:
>> An installer for Windows (and macOS) with an outdated ASF logo is
>> "broken" (in my eyes) ;-)
>>
>> 80% of our downloads are for Windows, 15% for macOS. They should see the
>> new logo!
> 
> the logos are visible just at 2 places:
> - splash screen
> --> With the modern PC systems these days it's visible for only - hm,
> let's say - 1,5 sec.
> 
> - About dialog
> --> IMHO a dialog that is one of the most seldom opened dialogs in
> OpenOffice.
> 
> I don't want to sound too negative. I just doubt that the most users
> will notice this graphical change. ;-)
> 
> However, at the end it's the decision of the Release Manager if he is
> accepting this as a blocker.
> 
>> Apart from that, no code! Just some graphics...
> 
> Sure, but every change is a risk. And it should be prevented in general
> when it's not necessary. I don't make a difference between code and
> non-code.
> 
> Paranoia? Maybe.
> Experience? Yes.
> 
> Marcus
> 
I have to agree with Marcus on this one. Our Version Number Assignment
as defined at
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Releases is
... A release is defined as "only selected
bug fixes and most often only critical ones. This
includes any potential security issues."

To me updating a couple of graphics that most users are not going to
notice anyway does not rise to the threshold of a critical issue. Does
it need to be done; absolutely. However given the fragility of our build
system adding another potential failure point to a release that has
already taken far longer then predicted is a risk that does not need to
be taken.

Regards
Keith
> 
> 
>> Am 03.05.2017 um 00:11 schrieb Marcus:
>>> Am 02.05.2017 um 23:51 schrieb Matthias Seidel:
 Am 02.05.2017 um 13:42 schrieb Jim Jagielski:
>> On Mar 22, 2017, at 8:43 AM, Matthias Seidel
>>  wrote:
>>
 If we decide to get the new ASF logos for the installer, we should also
 update the setup icons for Windows/macOS and the Intro/About Dialog.
 But
 there has been a discussion with Andrea and Marcus whether to include
 such things or not...
>>>
>>> correct, new graphics cannot be a blocker for a release. Except the
>>> existing ones are broken. But this is not the case here.
>>>
>>> Sorry, but we should clearly think twice if a change is necessary for
>>> a bugfix release. Every change has its own risk.
>>>
>>> My 2 ct.
>>>
>>> Marcus




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Re: 4.1.4 blockers (Was: Re: Release 4.1.3 (4.1.4))

[Matthias Seidel]

Obviously nobody looks at the splash screen, since the wrong URL has
been there for about 4 years now... ;-)
(When the splash screen was redesigned, the same URL was put in it again)
So I think now it is time for a change and to close this bug.

The ASF logos are also visible during installation on Windows (I can't
verify for macOS, but those graphics have also been updated).
I (and hopefully others) tested the Windows build for several month now.
In fact I am using 4.1.4 on a daily base at work.
For testing the Intro/About I simply copied the new graphics over the
existing ones in OpenOffice/program folder.

So from my POV the risk is minimal to non-existent.

Matthias


Am 03.05.2017 um 20:36 schrieb Marcus:
> Am 03.05.2017 um 11:54 schrieb Matthias Seidel:
>> An installer for Windows (and macOS) with an outdated ASF logo is
>> "broken" (in my eyes) ;-)
>>
>> 80% of our downloads are for Windows, 15% for macOS. They should see the
>> new logo!
>
> the logos are visible just at 2 places:
> - splash screen
> --> With the modern PC systems these days it's visible for only - hm,
> let's say - 1,5 sec.
>
> - About dialog
> --> IMHO a dialog that is one of the most seldom opened dialogs in
> OpenOffice.
>
> I don't want to sound too negative. I just doubt that the most users
> will notice this graphical change. ;-)
>
> However, at the end it's the decision of the Release Manager if he is
> accepting this as a blocker.
>
>> Apart from that, no code! Just some graphics...
>
> Sure, but every change is a risk. And it should be prevented in
> general when it's not necessary. I don't make a difference between
> code and non-code.
>
> Paranoia? Maybe.
> Experience? Yes.
>
> Marcus
>
>
>
>> Am 03.05.2017 um 00:11 schrieb Marcus:
>>> Am 02.05.2017 um 23:51 schrieb Matthias Seidel:
 Am 02.05.2017 um 13:42 schrieb Jim Jagielski:
>> On Mar 22, 2017, at 8:43 AM, Matthias Seidel
>>  wrote:
>>
 If we decide to get the new ASF logos for the installer, we should
 also
 update the setup icons for Windows/macOS and the Intro/About
 Dialog. But
 there has been a discussion with Andrea and Marcus whether to include
 such things or not...
>>>
>>> correct, new graphics cannot be a blocker for a release. Except the
>>> existing ones are broken. But this is not the case here.
>>>
>>> Sorry, but we should clearly think twice if a change is necessary for
>>> a bugfix release. Every change has its own risk.
>>>
>>> My 2 ct.
>>>
>>> Marcus
>
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Re: Download

[Marcus]

Am 03.05.2017 um 21:01 schrieb cdjageh...@aol.com:


Tried several times close together and hours apart.  But in  the same day.
I go to your site and it sends me to sourceforge then it  gives me 3
options to download and I choose open office.  The following is  what I get:

Load  Failed
Load  of URL
https://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/files/latest/download?source=top3_dlp_t5
  failed with error code -101.
Don't know what 101 is


thanks for the info.

With 3 options do you mean the drop-down-boxes for platform, language 
and version? Don't you get 2 download buttons for full installation and 
language pack? That would be strange.


The URL is not correct as it doesn't refer to a specific file but to a 
directory only - which is of course not downloadable.


I still want to know what the problem and cause is, so it would be great 
when you can post the content of the table on this webpage [1].


I don't know what you want to download but here is a link for Windows, 
English (US) [2]. Otherwise just give me your favorite platform + 
language and you will get another download link.


I hope this helps.

[1] https://www.openoffice.org/download/analyze.html
[2] 
https://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/files/4.1.3/binaries/en-US/Apache_OpenOffice_4.1.3_Win_x86_install_en-US.exe/download


Marcus




In a message dated 5/3/2017 1:36:29 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
marcus.m...@wtnet.de writes:

Am 03.05.2017 um 18:00 schriebcdjageh...@aol.com:

Trying to download

your open office but error   code appears each  time.

What is 101 and

how do I remedy  this   problem?

unfortunately, you have posted just a few
information.   Therefore I need
to ask a bit:

- Have you used  our
download   webpage?
Please make sure you download only  from the
original source:

https://www.openoffice.org/download/
(from here you willbe
redirected to SourceForge which is hosting our
installation
files)
Otherwise you don't get the originalsoftware.

- I
don't know what you mean with "101", can you give us   the exact

error message?

- Have you tried thedownload at different times (and not
only within a
fewminutes)? Maybe it's a temporary Inet problem
with thisserver.

Thanks in  advance

Marcus



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Re: Download

[CDJAGehlin]

 
Tried several times close together and hours apart.  But in  the same day.  
I go to your site and it sends me to sourceforge then it  gives me 3 
options to download and I choose open office.  The following is  what I get:
 
Load  Failed
Load  of URL  
https://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/files/latest/download?source=top3_dlp_t5
  failed with error code -101.
Don't know what 101 is 
 
 

 
 
In a message dated 5/3/2017 1:36:29 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
marcus.m...@wtnet.de writes:

Am 03.05.2017 um 18:00 schriebcdjageh...@aol.com:
> Trying to download 
your open office but error   code appears each  time.
> What is 101 and 
how do I remedy  this   problem?

unfortunately, you have posted just a few  
information.   Therefore I need 
to ask a bit:

- Have you used  our 
download   webpage?
Please make sure you download only  from the
original source:

https://www.openoffice.org/download/
(from here you willbe 
redirected to SourceForge which is hosting our
installation 
files)
Otherwise you don't get the originalsoftware.

- I 
don't know what you mean with "101", can you give us   the exact

error message?

- Have you tried thedownload at different times (and not 
only within a
fewminutes)? Maybe it's a temporary Inet problem 
with thisserver.

Thanks in  advance

Marcus

Re: 4.1.4 blockers (Was: Re: Release 4.1.3 (4.1.4))

[Marcus]

Am 03.05.2017 um 13:45 schrieb Jim Jagielski:

I can't add a Target Milestone of 4.1.4 for BZ issue:

https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=127253


strange, it wasn't existing for the "Installation" product but for 
others. I've now added it. Please test if it works for you.


Marcus


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Re: Download

[Marcus]

Am 03.05.2017 um 18:00 schrieb cdjageh...@aol.com:

Trying to download your open office but error code appears each  time.
What is 101 and how do I remedy this problem?


unfortunately, you have posted just a few information. Therefore I need 
to ask a bit:


- Have you used our download webpage?
  Please make sure you download only from the original source:
  https://www.openoffice.org/download/
  (from here you will be redirected to SourceForge which is hosting our
  installation files)
  Otherwise you don't get the original software.

- I don't know what you mean with "101", can you give us the exact
  error message?

- Have you tried the download at different times (and not only within a
  few minutes)? Maybe it's a temporary Inet problem with this server.

Thanks in advance

Marcus


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Re: 4.1.4 blockers (Was: Re: Release 4.1.3 (4.1.4))

[Marcus]

Am 03.05.2017 um 11:54 schrieb Matthias Seidel:

An installer for Windows (and macOS) with an outdated ASF logo is
"broken" (in my eyes) ;-)

80% of our downloads are for Windows, 15% for macOS. They should see the
new logo!


the logos are visible just at 2 places:
- splash screen
--> With the modern PC systems these days it's visible for only - hm, 
let's say - 1,5 sec.


- About dialog
--> IMHO a dialog that is one of the most seldom opened dialogs in
OpenOffice.

I don't want to sound too negative. I just doubt that the most users 
will notice this graphical change. ;-)


However, at the end it's the decision of the Release Manager if he is 
accepting this as a blocker.



Apart from that, no code! Just some graphics...


Sure, but every change is a risk. And it should be prevented in general 
when it's not necessary. I don't make a difference between code and 
non-code.


Paranoia? Maybe.
Experience? Yes.

Marcus




Am 03.05.2017 um 00:11 schrieb Marcus:

Am 02.05.2017 um 23:51 schrieb Matthias Seidel:

Am 02.05.2017 um 13:42 schrieb Jim Jagielski:

On Mar 22, 2017, at 8:43 AM, Matthias Seidel
 wrote:


If we decide to get the new ASF logos for the installer, we should also
update the setup icons for Windows/macOS and the Intro/About Dialog. But
there has been a discussion with Andrea and Marcus whether to include
such things or not...


correct, new graphics cannot be a blocker for a release. Except the
existing ones are broken. But this is not the case here.

Sorry, but we should clearly think twice if a change is necessary for
a bugfix release. Every change has its own risk.

My 2 ct.

Marcus



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Re: Misc pre-test, test releases

[Jim Jagielski]

Just to see if my build-setup on CentOS5 worked... Not to take over
your builds at all. Seems prudent to ensure that we have at least >1
person able to do builds.

I don't have a Windows setup so I can't do any work there.

> On May 3, 2017, at 12:07 PM, Andrea Pescetti  wrote:
> 
> Jim Jagielski wrote:
>> In addition to my macOS builds (on Sierra), I've also completed
>> build on CentOS5.11, both 32 and 64 bit.
>> Just to ensure nothing is seriously broken on my build machines,
>> I've placed a handful of pre-test test distros on:
>> http://home.apache.org/~jim/AOO-builds/
> 
> Do you mean to provide Linux builds for 4.1.4?
> 
> In that case, we should of course align on one set, so I would stop providing 
> builds, I would delete the ones I already provided and all the testing would 
> happen on your builds.
> 
> Regards,
>  Andrea.
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Download

[CDJAGehlin]

Trying to download your open office but error code appears each  time.  
What is 101 and how do I remedy this problem?
 
Thank you
 
JA Gehlin

Re: Misc pre-test, test releases

[Andrea Pescetti]

Jim Jagielski wrote:

In addition to my macOS builds (on Sierra), I've also completed
build on CentOS5.11, both 32 and 64 bit.
Just to ensure nothing is seriously broken on my build machines,
I've placed a handful of pre-test test distros on:
 http://home.apache.org/~jim/AOO-builds/


Do you mean to provide Linux builds for 4.1.4?

In that case, we should of course align on one set, so I would stop 
providing builds, I would delete the ones I already provided and all the 
testing would happen on your builds.


Regards,
  Andrea.

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Re: Misc pre-test, test releases

[FR web forum]

>Testing and feedback welcomed.
Did we have a bug report list?
Bugzilla returns only 2 issues with target 4.1.4.



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Misc pre-test, test releases

[Jim Jagielski]

In addition to my macOS builds (on Sierra), I've also completed
build on CentOS5.11, both 32 and 64 bit.

Just to ensure nothing is seriously broken on my build machines,
I've placed a handful of pre-test test distros on:

http://home.apache.org/~jim/AOO-builds/

Testing and feedback welcomed.

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Re: 4.1.4 blockers (Was: Re: Release 4.1.3 (4.1.4))

[Jim Jagielski]

I can't add a Target Milestone of 4.1.4 for BZ issue:

https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=127253

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4.1.4_release_blocker requested: [Issue 127176] Java not recognized after update to AOO 4.1.3

[bugzilla]

Jim Jagielski  has asked  for 4.1.4_release_blocker:
Issue 127176: Java not recognized after update to AOO 4.1.3
https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=127176

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Re: 4.1.4 blockers (Was: Re: Release 4.1.3 (4.1.4))

[Matthias Seidel]

An installer for Windows (and macOS) with an outdated ASF logo is
"broken" (in my eyes) ;-)

80% of our downloads are for Windows, 15% for macOS. They should see the
new logo!

Apart from that, no code! Just some graphics...

Matthias

Am 03.05.2017 um 00:11 schrieb Marcus:
> Am 02.05.2017 um 23:51 schrieb Matthias Seidel:
>> Am 02.05.2017 um 13:42 schrieb Jim Jagielski:
 On Mar 22, 2017, at 8:43 AM, Matthias Seidel
  wrote:

>> If we decide to get the new ASF logos for the installer, we should also
>> update the setup icons for Windows/macOS and the Intro/About Dialog. But
>> there has been a discussion with Andrea and Marcus whether to include
>> such things or not...
>
> correct, new graphics cannot be a blocker for a release. Except the
> existing ones are broken. But this is not the case here.
>
> Sorry, but we should clearly think twice if a change is necessary for
> a bugfix release. Every change has its own risk.
>
> My 2 ct.
>
> Marcus
>
>
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