Re: Suggestion
On 1/27/2019 3:25 PM, Andrea Pescetti wrote: ... In short, I think adding an e-mail client never made sense, and that this was irrelevant even when it was actually in the suite (not named OpenOffice yet), but it is even more irrelevant now. I used StarOffice when it had a mail client, never used its mail, and did not see any of my colleagues using it. There may be a case for an Outlook-replacement mail and scheduling client. If so, I think it would be better as an independent project, free to pick its programming language, libraries etc. --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Suggestion
Peter Kovacs wrote: I think the request for a OpenOffice Mail Client has been placed repeatedly over time. Yes, but it is due to a misleading analogy with what Microsoft does (or used to do) by incorporating a mail client into their Office suite. The main mission of OpenOffice focuses on office productivity, and I think we are still good at that. The code is very monolithic and an external solution (Thunderbird being a natural choice) is more or less the only option that makes sense. To be clear: This is a more year effort. E-mail has moved to the cloud much faster than office productivity. Honestly, if we ever were to announce that OpenOffice would start actions for including a mail client in the (not immediate) future, this would be irrelevant to most people even among our own users. In short, I think adding an e-mail client never made sense, and that this was irrelevant even when it was actually in the suite (not named OpenOffice yet), but it is even more irrelevant now. If someone is going to join to help with creating an e-mail module, it would be better to put those energies to better use. Regards, Andrea. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Successful 1st Build!
Yes, the first step on this is definitely a feasibility and performance study. I would start by making the existing AOO string class a wrapper around an STL string. That way, we could experiment with only local changes, not finding and changing every place that does string manipulation. On 1/27/2019 6:51 AM, Peter Kovacs wrote: I could not find a Issue for that. So I opened a bug[1]. But honestly I think this is might be quite a challenge. I am not sure if the UTF-implementation is affected by this task. According to FOSDEM talk from the last years it has some very suboptimal coding decisions. If that is affected, it might have some affect on our API. We should investigate this first and make a plan. all the best Peter [1] https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=128019 On 27.01.19 15:27, Patricia Shanahan wrote: Another project to consider after this is replacing AOO's own string implementation with the standard template library string. On 1/27/2019 4:32 AM, Peter Kovacs wrote: Awesome! Okay, next Step. Let me see if I have some Ideas. How about this one here: https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=118788 It is about tweaking a LibreOffice patch to our code. The patch is dual licensed so we can use this. Which is awesome. It may be a good low hanging fruit to grapple for you. Or a bad one, but then we know it hangs higher. :P All the best Peter On 26.01.19 23:28, Nikhil Gupta wrote: Hi everyone, I successfully build the open-office on my system.Now I am looking forward to where I can start contributing to the project. I have 2 year programming experience in c++ mainly functional programming. So if there any guide available there it would be appreciated. Thanks. Nikhil - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Successful 1st Build!
Hello we should also have a look against which version of OpenJDK we build. It works for me with Java 8 but NOT with Java 11. Kind regards Am 27.01.19 um 15:54 schrieb Peter Kovacs: > BTW, we had also the Idea to switch from C-Array to containers. This > also needs a code audit to identify the code incidents first. > > I currently have only noted a task for this. > > On 27.01.19 15:51, Peter Kovacs wrote: >> I could not find a Issue for that. So I opened a bug[1]. >> >> But honestly I think this is might be quite a challenge. I am not sure >> if the UTF-implementation is affected by this task. >> >> According to FOSDEM talk from the last years it has some very suboptimal >> coding decisions. If that is affected, it might have some affect on our API. >> >> We should investigate this first and make a plan. >> >> >> all the best >> >> Peter >> >> [1] https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=128019 >> >> >> On 27.01.19 15:27, Patricia Shanahan wrote: >>> Another project to consider after this is replacing AOO's own string >>> implementation with the standard template library string. >>> >>> On 1/27/2019 4:32 AM, Peter Kovacs wrote: Awesome! Okay, next Step. Let me see if I have some Ideas. How about this one here: https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=118788 It is about tweaking a LibreOffice patch to our code. The patch is dual licensed so we can use this. Which is awesome. It may be a good low hanging fruit to grapple for you. Or a bad one, but then we know it hangs higher. :P All the best Peter On 26.01.19 23:28, Nikhil Gupta wrote: > Hi everyone, > I successfully build the open-office on my system.Now I am looking > forward > to where I can start contributing to the project. I have 2 year > programming > experience in c++ mainly functional programming. > So if there any guide available there it would be appreciated. > > Thanks. > Nikhil > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org >>> --- >>> This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. >>> https://www.avg.com >>> >>> >>> - >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org >>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org >>> >> - >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org >> > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org > -- Mechtilde Stehmann ## Apache OpenOffice ## Freie Office Suite für Linux, MacOSX, Windows ## Debian Developer ## PGP encryption welcome ## F0E3 7F3D C87A 4998 2899 39E7 F287 7BBA 141A AD7F signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Successful 1st Build!
BTW, we had also the Idea to switch from C-Array to containers. This also needs a code audit to identify the code incidents first. I currently have only noted a task for this. On 27.01.19 15:51, Peter Kovacs wrote: > I could not find a Issue for that. So I opened a bug[1]. > > But honestly I think this is might be quite a challenge. I am not sure > if the UTF-implementation is affected by this task. > > According to FOSDEM talk from the last years it has some very suboptimal > coding decisions. If that is affected, it might have some affect on our API. > > We should investigate this first and make a plan. > > > all the best > > Peter > > [1] https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=128019 > > > On 27.01.19 15:27, Patricia Shanahan wrote: >> Another project to consider after this is replacing AOO's own string >> implementation with the standard template library string. >> >> On 1/27/2019 4:32 AM, Peter Kovacs wrote: >>> Awesome! >>> >>> Okay, next Step. Let me see if I have some Ideas. >>> >>> How about this one here: >>> >>> https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=118788 >>> >>> It is about tweaking a LibreOffice patch to our code. The patch is dual >>> licensed so we can use this. Which is awesome. >>> >>> It may be a good low hanging fruit to grapple for you. Or a bad one, but >>> then we know it hangs higher. :P >>> >>> >>> All the best >>> >>> Peter >>> >>> >>> On 26.01.19 23:28, Nikhil Gupta wrote: Hi everyone, I successfully build the open-office on my system.Now I am looking forward to where I can start contributing to the project. I have 2 year programming experience in c++ mainly functional programming. So if there any guide available there it would be appreciated. Thanks. Nikhil >>> >>> - >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org >>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org >>> >> --- >> This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. >> https://www.avg.com >> >> >> - >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org >> > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Successful 1st Build!
I could not find a Issue for that. So I opened a bug[1]. But honestly I think this is might be quite a challenge. I am not sure if the UTF-implementation is affected by this task. According to FOSDEM talk from the last years it has some very suboptimal coding decisions. If that is affected, it might have some affect on our API. We should investigate this first and make a plan. all the best Peter [1] https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=128019 On 27.01.19 15:27, Patricia Shanahan wrote: > Another project to consider after this is replacing AOO's own string > implementation with the standard template library string. > > On 1/27/2019 4:32 AM, Peter Kovacs wrote: >> Awesome! >> >> Okay, next Step. Let me see if I have some Ideas. >> >> How about this one here: >> >> https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=118788 >> >> It is about tweaking a LibreOffice patch to our code. The patch is dual >> licensed so we can use this. Which is awesome. >> >> It may be a good low hanging fruit to grapple for you. Or a bad one, but >> then we know it hangs higher. :P >> >> >> All the best >> >> Peter >> >> >> On 26.01.19 23:28, Nikhil Gupta wrote: >>> Hi everyone, >>> I successfully build the open-office on my system.Now I am looking >>> forward >>> to where I can start contributing to the project. I have 2 year >>> programming >>> experience in c++ mainly functional programming. >>> So if there any guide available there it would be appreciated. >>> >>> Thanks. >>> Nikhil >>> >> >> >> - >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org >> > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. > https://www.avg.com > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Successful 1st Build!
Another project to consider after this is replacing AOO's own string implementation with the standard template library string. On 1/27/2019 4:32 AM, Peter Kovacs wrote: Awesome! Okay, next Step. Let me see if I have some Ideas. How about this one here: https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=118788 It is about tweaking a LibreOffice patch to our code. The patch is dual licensed so we can use this. Which is awesome. It may be a good low hanging fruit to grapple for you. Or a bad one, but then we know it hangs higher. :P All the best Peter On 26.01.19 23:28, Nikhil Gupta wrote: Hi everyone, I successfully build the open-office on my system.Now I am looking forward to where I can start contributing to the project. I have 2 year programming experience in c++ mainly functional programming. So if there any guide available there it would be appreciated. Thanks. Nikhil - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Error:: While installing openoffice debian menus
Thanks for the suggestion. It worked as the way you said.Now I am able to successfully install openoffice on my computer. On Sun, Jan 27, 2019 at 9:46 AM F C. Costero wrote: > Hi Nikhil, > Try purging LibreOffice with > sudo apt-get purge LibreOffice* > I did this before installing OpenOffice on my Linux Mint system and it > installed with no error. I was then able to download LibreOffice from the > LibreOffice site and install that in parallel with OpenOffice. I believe > the error you are encountering is seen with any OpenOffice installation on > Ubuntu and is not a result of your build process. See > https://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=74=50119#p228095 > > Best regards, > Francis > > > > On Sat, Jan 26, 2019 at 5:22 PM Nikhil Gupta > wrote: > > > Hi > > I built openoffice on my Ubuntu(14.04) > > The build successfully run with no error message. > > But when i tried to install openoffice debian menus > > Following error shows: > > dpkg: error processing archive > /home/nikhil/help/aoo/main/instsetoo_native/ > > > > > unxlngx6.pro/Apache_OpenOffice/deb/install/en-US/DEBS/desktop-integration/openoffice4.2-debian-menus_4.5-9900_all.deb > > (--install > > < > http://unxlngx6.pro/Apache_OpenOffice/deb/install/en-US/DEBS/desktop-integration/openoffice4.2-debian-menus_4.5-9900_all.deb(--install > > > > ): > > trying to overwrite '/usr/bin/soffice', which is also in package > > libreoffice-common 1:4.2.8-0ubuntu5.3 > > /usr/bin/gtk-update-icon-cache > > > > Please help > > >
Using AOO 4.2-dev with Java 11
Hello, I tried to activate Java 11 with my AOO 4.2-dev build. this doesn't work. I get the message (translated back to English) The chosen directory dosn't contain a jre. Please choose another directory. I choose /usr/lib/jvm/java-11-openjdk-amd64/. In this directory ther eis no one named jre. It works with /usr/lib/jvm/java-8-openjdk-amd64/jre. so there is a need of some corrections for time there is no openjdk-8 anymore. Kind regards -- Mechtilde Stehmann ## Apache OpenOffice ## Freie Office Suite für Linux, MacOSX, Windows ## Debian Developer ## PGP encryption welcome ## F0E3 7F3D C87A 4998 2899 39E7 F287 7BBA 141A AD7F signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Successful 1st Build!
Awesome! Okay, next Step. Let me see if I have some Ideas. How about this one here: https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=118788 It is about tweaking a LibreOffice patch to our code. The patch is dual licensed so we can use this. Which is awesome. It may be a good low hanging fruit to grapple for you. Or a bad one, but then we know it hangs higher. :P All the best Peter On 26.01.19 23:28, Nikhil Gupta wrote: > Hi everyone, > I successfully build the open-office on my system.Now I am looking forward > to where I can start contributing to the project. I have 2 year programming > experience in c++ mainly functional programming. > So if there any guide available there it would be appreciated. > > Thanks. > Nikhil > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Suggestion
Hi John, I am open for an OpenOffice Email Client. As Markus writes OpenOffice Project would need to start from the scratch. Maybe reaching out to Thunderbird, Evolution or another email Project will provide faster results, and is the more efficient approach? (As Markus suggests) However if you are determined for an OpenOffice Email client I say you have to go into the lead. We should do things right and start writing up all features we need/want. I suggest we use the user story method. This is a successful design method and requires only user skill and in our case Wiki tool knowledge. I think the request for a OpenOffice Mail Client has been placed repeatedly over time. Maybe if someone starts making first steps in this direction others step up to support this. I do not think the work done is lost, even if it does not sky rocket right away. To be clear: This is a more year effort. It is nothing to be done just like that. Do you accept the Challenge and start writing user stories for an E-Mail Client in OpenOffice? I help you getting started. BTW I found this: https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Marketing-Material-ReplaceOutlook All the best Peter On 27.01.19 06:26, JD wrote: > Hi Marcus, > > One facet of all this has changed. In keeping with perpetual greed MS > has copied the cash cow concept adopted by adobe - you don't get the > program you rent it thus insuring they get your money. > > I loaded outlook and and because I think they are pushing the online > stuff suddenly my copy no longer functions how about that? > > Thunderbird is pretty barren, and seems to frequently do stuff I don't > care for examples do not come to mind as this is written but the > $$ angle with MS is the dominant item. Customer needs to be milked. > > Can't express my loathing for that enough. > > Thanks for your comments. Perhaps as MS tightens the wire a new or > improved client may be in order. > > Kind regards, > > John Diehl > > On 1/26/2019 3:49 PM, Marcus wrote: >> Am 26.01.19 um 20:55 schrieb JD: >>> Appreciate your efforts greatly! It just keeps getting better all >>> the time. >>> >>> A fabulous addition to your programs would be a mail client. How I >>> would welcome that. One that has an auto correct built in. >> >> OpenOffice had already a mail client (OK; to be more correct, it was >> StarOffice many years ago). It had a news client, Internet browser >> and schedular on board. Even an own desktop was included. However, it >> wasn't successfull. The people have used other programs that were >> better suited for that and the desktop wasn't well understood. >> >> Today there are already good and well-established programs like >> Outlook and Thunderbird - just to name the most popular ones. >> >> Therefore I don't think it would make sense to spend a lot of time to >> invent all of this from scratch just to have an own mail program in >> OpenOffice. >> >> My 2ct. >> >> Marcus >> >> > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Suggestion
Hi Marcus, One facet of all this has changed. In keeping with perpetual greed MS has copied the cash cow concept adopted by adobe - you don't get the program you rent it thus insuring they get your money. I loaded outlook and and because I think they are pushing the online stuff suddenly my copy no longer functions how about that? Thunderbird is pretty barren, and seems to frequently do stuff I don't care for examples do not come to mind as this is written but the $$ angle with MS is the dominant item. Customer needs to be milked. Can't express my loathing for that enough. Thanks for your comments. Perhaps as MS tightens the wire a new or improved client may be in order. Kind regards, John Diehl On 1/26/2019 3:49 PM, Marcus wrote: Am 26.01.19 um 20:55 schrieb JD: Appreciate your efforts greatly! It just keeps getting better all the time. A fabulous addition to your programs would be a mail client. How I would welcome that. One that has an auto correct built in. OpenOffice had already a mail client (OK; to be more correct, it was StarOffice many years ago). It had a news client, Internet browser and schedular on board. Even an own desktop was included. However, it wasn't successfull. The people have used other programs that were better suited for that and the desktop wasn't well understood. Today there are already good and well-established programs like Outlook and Thunderbird - just to name the most popular ones. Therefore I don't think it would make sense to spend a lot of time to invent all of this from scratch just to have an own mail program in OpenOffice. My 2ct. Marcus - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Error:: While installing openoffice debian menus
Niltze [Hello]- On 2019-01-26 16:22, Nikhil Gupta wrote: Hi I built openoffice on my Ubuntu(14.04) The build successfully run with no error message. But when i tried to install openoffice debian menus Following error shows: dpkg: error processing archive /home/nikhil/help/aoo/main/instsetoo_native/ unxlngx6.pro/Apache_OpenOffice/deb/install/en-US/DEBS/desktop-integration/openoffice4.2-debian-menus_4.5-9900_all.deb (--install): trying to overwrite '/usr/bin/soffice', which is also in package libreoffice-common 1:4.2.8-0ubuntu5.3 /usr/bin/gtk-update-icon-cache Please help As root and/or with sudo privilege make a backup of /usr/bin/soffice and force the installation of the DEB package as: dpkg --force-all -i oo-package.deb After OO package successfully installs, analyze: ls -l /usr/bin/soffice You will find that it is a symbolic link to /opt/openoffice4/program/soffice Accordingly, you can make a proper sym link more relevant to OO, i.e., as root [or sudo]: cd /usr/bin ln -s /opt/openoffice4/program/soffice apacheoo *proceed* to make another relevant link: cd /opt/openoffice4/program/ ln -s soffice.bin apacheoo.bin That's it! Go back and delete (if necessary) and restore from backup the original /usr/bin/soffice. Now as a normal user, you can start OO from any shell by simply typing: apacheoo & at any command prompt. **For hard core Apache OO users** Now, assuming you are not using GNOME as your Desktop GUI, if I were you and LibreOffice had no *nasty* dependency on GNOME, I would just purge LibreOffice altogether ;-) apt-get purge $(dpkg-query -l "*libreoffice*" | grep ^ii | cut -d' ' -f3) < https://metztli.it/readOnlyEphemeral/libreoffice-gnome-dependency.png > which is what I do in every Metztli Reiser4 Debian -based installation for AMD64, since, if the user still decides to purge LibreOffice *but* keep GNOME, I do install my non-LibreOffice-dependency gnome Debian packages over originals *but* version(s) may be different in Ubuntu. gnome_3.22+3.1_amd64.deb gnome-core_3.22+3.1_amd64.deb < https://sourceforge.net/projects/metztli-reiser4/files/No-LibreOffice-dependency_GNOME/ > Good luck! -- Jose R R http://metztli.it - Download Metztli Reiser4: Debian Stretch w/ Linux 4.20 AMD64 - feats ZSTD compression https://sf.net/projects/metztli-reiser4/ --- Official current Reiser4 resources: https://reiser4.wiki.kernel.org/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
