Re: AOO Product page - ambiguous wording?
Regarding PDF's. >> PDF is not an editable format and it is not from any of the "major >> competitor" suites. In any case you can open PDF files in OpenOffice. Just >> install the PDF Import extension. >> > > Yes PDF is an editable format, you just need to have a PDF editor. The > fact is that user@ is full of people complaining that AOO will not open > there PDF files. >Yes, PDF can be edited. Open any PDF in OO Draw and it is clear they can be edited to a very high degree. So the above statement is very correct. As far as the various import extensions, they are sometimes far less successful at reading PDFs. As an aside, if whatever reads pdf for draw could be simply implemented in OOWriter this would be a nice feature. But as it stands PDF compatability with the suite is "okay enough". >Regards, >Dave > > Regards > Keith > >> Regards, >> Pedro >> > > > > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: AOO Product page - ambiguous wording?
Keith (comments in-line) > > PDF is not an editable format and it is not from any of the "major > > competitor" suites. In any case you can open PDF files in OpenOffice. Just > > install the PDF Import extension. > > > > Yes PDF is an editable format, you just need to have a PDF editor. The > fact is that user@ is full of people complaining that AOO will not open > there PDF files. PDF is designed for printing and page composition. It can be edited but that is not what it was designed for. That is why ODF is adopted as "an open document file format for saving and exchanging office documents that may be edited." Again: you can open and modify PDF files in Apache OpenOffice. Just install the PDF Import extension. > Whether they are a "major competitor" or not is irrelevant, there 2020 > office suite is a competitor and we do not open any of there file > formats for word processing, spreadsheet, or presentation. It is not irrelevant. My proposal (and the original sentence) mentioned support for "major competitors" not support for every file format under the sun. In any case I agree that WordPerfect should be supported (as well as Apple's iWork formats) but unless someone is willing to pay a developer to add those flters I don't see it happening Regards, Pedro - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: AOO Product page - ambiguous wording?
> On May 27, 2020, at 7:18 AM, Keith N. McKenna > wrote: > > Pedro; > Comments in-line > > On 5/26/2020 5:18 PM, Pedro Lino wrote: >> >>> Plus your your phrasing >>> leaves it wide open for people to complain about PDF files same as they >>> already do. >> >> PDF is not an editable format and it is not from any of the "major >> competitor" suites. In any case you can open PDF files in OpenOffice. Just >> install the PDF Import extension. >> > > Yes PDF is an editable format, you just need to have a PDF editor. The > fact is that user@ is full of people complaining that AOO will not open > there PDF files. Yes, PDF can be edited. > >>> As we no longer open Word Perfect files then Your >>> phraseology is no longer correct either. >> >> I'm almost sure WordPerfect is no longer a "major competitor"... >> Unfortunately I can't find any usage statistics for any office suite to >> check who are in fact the "major" and if they use any proprietary file types >> other than Microsoft's... >> > Whether they are a "major competitor" or not is irrelevant, there 2020 > office suite is a competitor and we do not open any of there file > formats for word processing, spreadsheet, or presentation. These “Why OpenOffice” sections were written in Sun and Oracle times and simply ported. Competitors is not the correct term for other myriad document formats. We don’t have a large company funding our efforts to “compete”. A more major effort to rewrite this part of the website makes sense to me. I don’t how much time I have for that effort, but … Regards, Dave > > Regards > Keith > >> Regards, >> Pedro >> > > > > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: AOO Product page - ambiguous wording?
Pedro; Comments in-line On 5/26/2020 5:18 PM, Pedro Lino wrote: > >> Plus your your phrasing >> leaves it wide open for people to complain about PDF files same as they >> already do. > > PDF is not an editable format and it is not from any of the "major > competitor" suites. In any case you can open PDF files in OpenOffice. Just > install the PDF Import extension. > Yes PDF is an editable format, you just need to have a PDF editor. The fact is that user@ is full of people complaining that AOO will not open there PDF files. >> As we no longer open Word Perfect files then Your >> phraseology is no longer correct either. > > I'm almost sure WordPerfect is no longer a "major competitor"... > Unfortunately I can't find any usage statistics for any office suite to check > who are in fact the "major" and if they use any proprietary file types other > than Microsoft's... > Whether they are a "major competitor" or not is irrelevant, there 2020 office suite is a competitor and we do not open any of there file formats for word processing, spreadsheet, or presentation. Regards Keith > Regards, > Pedro > signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: AOO Product page - ambiguous wording?
> On May 27, 2020 12:26 AM Larry Gusaas < larry.gus...@gmail.com > mailto:larry.gus...@gmail.com > wrote: > > Apache OpenOffice DOES NOT read Apple Pages, Keynote, or Numbers files. > Thank you for this piece of information. This certainly puts a nail on the all vs most debate. Thank you all for the feedback! Regards, Pedro
Re: AOO Product page - ambiguous wording?
On Tue, 26 May 2020 17:26:55 -0600 Larry Gusaas wrote: > On 2020-05-23 2:34 p.m., Czesław Wolański wrote: > > Hi, > > > > Apache OpenOffice Product Description, section "Why Apache OpenOffice?" > > > > https://www.openoffice.org/product/index.html#why-apache-openoffice > > > > Not being a native English speaker I have some doubts about one part (2nd > > bulleted list, 2nd item): > > > > "It's easy to change to Apache OpenOffice - the software reads all major > > competitors' files" > > > > From a purely linguistic perspective: is wording "reads all major > > competitors' files" to be understood as: > > > > - it reads all files of major competitors > >OR > > - it reads files of all major competitors > > > Apache OpenOffice DOES NOT read Apple Pages, Keynote, or Numbers files. > I think Larry has proved my point on why we need the softer wording. I have now said as much as is useful for me to say on this thread. Rory > _ > > Larry I. Gusaas > Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan Canada > Website: http://larry-gusaas.com > > "An artist is never ahead of his time but most people are far behind theirs." > - Edgard Varese > > > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org > -- Rory O'Farrell - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
