Re: Openssl, serf and curl
Dear Arrigo Thank you for your effort! Please don't take lack of feedback for lack of interest! I volunteer to test any binaries on Windows 7, 10 or Linux if needed I can compile on Linux but not on Windows Regards, Pedro > On 11/26/2021 7:26 PM Arrigo Marchiori wrote: > > > Dear All, > > On Sun, Nov 21, 2021 at 09:29:18PM +0100, Arrigo Marchiori wrote: > > > Hello All, > > > > just a little update. > > > > On Sat, Nov 20, 2021 at 01:44:43PM +0100, Arrigo Marchiori wrote: > > > > > Hello Matthias, All, > > > > > > On Fri, Nov 19, 2021 at 12:26:37AM +0100, Matthias Seidel wrote: > > > > > > > Hi Arrigo, > > > > > > > > Am 17.11.21 um 08:16 schrieb Arrigo Marchiori: > > > > > Dear All, > > > > > > > > > > I pushed a new branch "serf", that contains the OpenSSL upgrade > > > > > commits (I reverted the reverts ;-) plus a tentative upgrade of the > > > > > serf library to 1.3.9. > > > > > > > > > > A small patch is included to allow building with Python3-based SCons. > > > > > > > > > > The oox module also needed minor patching because it uses some OpenSSL > > > > > functions that were refactored since OpenSSL 1.1.0. > > > > > > > > > > I tested it under Linux with Peter's Docker image (adding SCons). It > > > > > builds and runs, but I am not sure how to verify if the SSL related > > > > > problems are solved. > > > > > > > > > > I could not yet test if it builds under Windows and Mac. Any help > > > > > would be appreciated. Please note that the "serf" branch derives from > > > > > trunk. > > > > > > > > I cannot get it to build on Windows. > > > > > > > > The build just stops at a certain point. No error messages. > > > > > > I had not tested it under Windows, when I commited it. Sorry. > > > > > > The build stops because the existing patch to OpenSSL does not apply. > > > > > > If we disable it, we face another challenge: OpenSSL does not build > > > with Cygwin's Perl! > > > https://github.com/openssl/openssl/issues/9048 > > > > > > I will investigate if we need Strawberry Perl as suggested in the > > > above link. It's sure this is getting more complex than expected. > > > > I could patch the configure scripts to use Windows and Cygwin paths as > > necessary. Now the compilation is failing because of missing symbols, > > at link time. > > > > As soon as I have something almost usable, I will commit it. > > I think I fixed the OpenSSL module and the depending Python. > > Serf is now posing another challenge. > > Apparently, SCons needs to access the Windows registry in order to > detect the presence of Visual Studio. This is reasonable: also our > "oowintool" script does so. > > Python scripts can access the Windows registry using the "winreg" > module. The problem is that such module _is not included_ in Cygwin's > Python distribution! > > There is a "cygwinreg" module available, but it does not seem to work. > > So instead of using an ``external'' Perl, we will need to use an > ``external'' Python. > > I will try to follow this path. > > Questions and comments are welcome as usual. > > Best regards, > -- > Arrigo > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Openssl, serf and curl
Dear All, On Sun, Nov 21, 2021 at 09:29:18PM +0100, Arrigo Marchiori wrote: > Hello All, > > just a little update. > > On Sat, Nov 20, 2021 at 01:44:43PM +0100, Arrigo Marchiori wrote: > > > Hello Matthias, All, > > > > On Fri, Nov 19, 2021 at 12:26:37AM +0100, Matthias Seidel wrote: > > > > > Hi Arrigo, > > > > > > Am 17.11.21 um 08:16 schrieb Arrigo Marchiori: > > > > Dear All, > > > > > > > > I pushed a new branch "serf", that contains the OpenSSL upgrade > > > > commits (I reverted the reverts ;-) plus a tentative upgrade of the > > > > serf library to 1.3.9. > > > > > > > > A small patch is included to allow building with Python3-based SCons. > > > > > > > > The oox module also needed minor patching because it uses some OpenSSL > > > > functions that were refactored since OpenSSL 1.1.0. > > > > > > > > I tested it under Linux with Peter's Docker image (adding SCons). It > > > > builds and runs, but I am not sure how to verify if the SSL related > > > > problems are solved. > > > > > > > > I could not yet test if it builds under Windows and Mac. Any help > > > > would be appreciated. Please note that the "serf" branch derives from > > > > trunk. > > > > > > I cannot get it to build on Windows. > > > > > > The build just stops at a certain point. No error messages. > > > > I had not tested it under Windows, when I commited it. Sorry. > > > > The build stops because the existing patch to OpenSSL does not apply. > > > > If we disable it, we face another challenge: OpenSSL does not build > > with Cygwin's Perl! > > https://github.com/openssl/openssl/issues/9048 > > > > I will investigate if we need Strawberry Perl as suggested in the > > above link. It's sure this is getting more complex than expected. > > I could patch the configure scripts to use Windows and Cygwin paths as > necessary. Now the compilation is failing because of missing symbols, > at link time. > > As soon as I have something almost usable, I will commit it. I think I fixed the OpenSSL module and the depending Python. Serf is now posing another challenge. Apparently, SCons needs to access the Windows registry in order to detect the presence of Visual Studio. This is reasonable: also our "oowintool" script does so. Python scripts can access the Windows registry using the "winreg" module. The problem is that such module _is not included_ in Cygwin's Python distribution! There is a "cygwinreg" module available, but it does not seem to work. So instead of using an ``external'' Perl, we will need to use an ``external'' Python. I will try to follow this path. Questions and comments are welcome as usual. Best regards, -- Arrigo - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Apache OpenOffice available in the Microsoft Store on Windows 10
Hi Pedro, Am 26.11.21 um 20:10 schrieb Pedro Lino: > Hi Matthias > >> On 11/26/2021 6:39 PM Matthias Seidel wrote: >> Another note: >> >> With the new store you need a Microsoft account even if you want to >> install a free app... >> >> BUT: This is not the case for classical programs like Apache OpenOffice! ;-) > That is actually good news for OpenOffice users! Will they be notified of new > versions through the MS Store? (it is not really relevant if the AOO update > check works) Unfortunately not. But maybe we should have a look if we can modify our update notification somehow. > > I really think that it should not be necessary to be a registered user to > install programs. But Microsoft is clearly following the Google's Android > model where everything is connected to the user account (which is positive in > some points, but it is not so good for privacy...) Yes, Windows 11 goes in that direction and the new store was backported to Window 10. BTW: Wait for the UI redesign of MS Office (2016 and 2019)! That will look a lot like Windows 11... Regards, Matthias > > It seems that if you don't want to be profiled, you really need to stick to > Linux/BSD > > Regards, > Pedro > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org > smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
Re: Apache OpenOffice available in the Microsoft Store on Windows 10
Hi Matthias > On 11/26/2021 6:39 PM Matthias Seidel wrote: > Another note: > > With the new store you need a Microsoft account even if you want to > install a free app... > > BUT: This is not the case for classical programs like Apache OpenOffice! ;-) That is actually good news for OpenOffice users! Will they be notified of new versions through the MS Store? (it is not really relevant if the AOO update check works) I really think that it should not be necessary to be a registered user to install programs. But Microsoft is clearly following the Google's Android model where everything is connected to the user account (which is positive in some points, but it is not so good for privacy...) It seems that if you don't want to be profiled, you really need to stick to Linux/BSD Regards, Pedro - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Apache OpenOffice available in the Microsoft Store on Windows 10
Hi Pedro, all, Am 25.11.21 um 12:23 schrieb Pedro Lino: > Hi Matthias > >> On 11/24/2021 11:50 PM Matthias Seidel wrote: >> Are they illegal? I am not a lawyer... They need to adjust some (a lot of) >> things, but that has to be worked on. > They are illegally using the OpenOffice name so they have to be removed. Of > course they can rebrand it and that would be legal but it would no longer > show on a search for OpenOffice! > >>> On a positive note, "our" Apache OpenOffice does show up on the Portuguese >>> Microsoft Store app (using Windows 10 Pro 21H2) as the first option! >>> https://i.imgur.com/rdqewTK.png >> That looks great! Did you try to install? > I did install it and it worked perfectly! In addition on another Windows 10 > Pro machine that already had AOO 4.1.10 installed in the traditional way when > I installed AOO 4.1.11 through the Store, it correctly updated AOO. > > This is excellent! Another note: With the new store you need a Microsoft account even if you want to install a free app... BUT: This is not the case for classical programs like Apache OpenOffice! ;-) Regards, Matthias > > Regards, > Pedro > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org > smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
Re: Apache OpenOffice available in the Microsoft Store on Windows 10
Hi Peter, We all know that every person that wants to see how the release process goes forward can do that *easily*: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.1.11 Some people are just not interested. And some even don't read the Release Notes... ;-) Regards, Matthias Am 26.11.21 um 17:26 schrieb Peter Kovacs: > > On 26.11.21 10:56, Jörg Schmidt wrote: >>> -Original Message- >>> From: David Robley [mailto:da...@robley.net.au] >>> Sent: Friday, November 26, 2021 10:33 AM >>> To: dev@openoffice.apache.org >>> Subject: Re: Apache OpenOffice available in the Microsoft >>> Store on Windows 10 >>> >>> Perhaps >>> https://blogs.apache.org/OOo/entry/announcing-apache-openoffic >>> e-4-17 ?? >> Thank you for this link. >> >> Nevertheless, I am a little surprised that something is happening >> here that I would count as part of the release process (which imho >> follows formal rules), which apparently(?) was never discussed >> _publicly_ in advance. > > What do you want to discuss? Please do so. Make your case. I do not > see it. > smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
RE: Apache OpenOffice available in the Microsoft Store on Windows 10
> -Original Message- > From: Peter Kovacs [mailto:pe...@apache.org] > Sent: Friday, November 26, 2021 5:27 PM > To: dev@openoffice.apache.org > Subject: Re: Apache OpenOffice available in the Microsoft > Store on Windows 10 > What do you want to discuss? Please do so. Make your case. I > do not see it. It is a pity that you now seem to want to portray the release process (which is actually well regulated) as something where everyone can do 'their thing' individually. I still clearly remember the criticism I met from you when I only announced that I wanted to change the release notes afterwards. What I have always seen is that even in a meritocratic project, every active project-member has a right to have a say in all centrally important things and it would somehow be appropriate for a free project if such things were discussed together in advance. Jörg - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Apache OpenOffice available in the Microsoft Store on Windows 10
Hi Peter, Am 26.11.21 um 17:27 schrieb Peter Kovacs: > French was requested on Facebook. I will ask if he sees it. Thanks! > > On 26.11.21 15:43, Matthias Seidel wrote: >> Hi Pedro, all, >> >> I almost forgot: >> >> French Store Listing is translated and online now (Thanks Bidouille!). >> I also have a volunteer for Spanish. >> >> With the wider availability of the "new" Microsoft Store on Windows 10 >> and positive feedback (slowly) coming in I think we should update the >> Release Notes. I will do that for en-US later, translators can then >> pick up. >> >> Regards, >> >> Matthias >> >> Am 19.11.21 um 18:14 schrieb Pedro Lino: On 11/19/2021 4:47 PM Bidouille wrote: A french version will be great. >>> Indeed! >>> And a Spanish version also... It is the 4th spoken language worlwide >>> and the 2nd by native speakers. Any Spanish volunteers? >>> >>> Regards, >>> Pedro >>> >>> - >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org >>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org >>> smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
Re: Apache OpenOffice available in the Microsoft Store on Windows 10
French was requested on Facebook. I will ask if he sees it. On 26.11.21 15:43, Matthias Seidel wrote: Hi Pedro, all, I almost forgot: French Store Listing is translated and online now (Thanks Bidouille!). I also have a volunteer for Spanish. With the wider availability of the "new" Microsoft Store on Windows 10 and positive feedback (slowly) coming in I think we should update the Release Notes. I will do that for en-US later, translators can then pick up. Regards, Matthias Am 19.11.21 um 18:14 schrieb Pedro Lino: On 11/19/2021 4:47 PM Bidouille wrote: A french version will be great. Indeed! And a Spanish version also... It is the 4th spoken language worlwide and the 2nd by native speakers. Any Spanish volunteers? Regards, Pedro - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org -- This is the Way! http://www.apache.org/theapacheway/index.html - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Apache OpenOffice available in the Microsoft Store on Windows 10
On 26.11.21 10:56, Jörg Schmidt wrote: -Original Message- From: David Robley [mailto:da...@robley.net.au] Sent: Friday, November 26, 2021 10:33 AM To: dev@openoffice.apache.org Subject: Re: Apache OpenOffice available in the Microsoft Store on Windows 10 Perhaps https://blogs.apache.org/OOo/entry/announcing-apache-openoffic e-4-17 ?? Thank you for this link. Nevertheless, I am a little surprised that something is happening here that I would count as part of the release process (which imho follows formal rules), which apparently(?) was never discussed _publicly_ in advance. What do you want to discuss? Please do so. Make your case. I do not see it. -- This is the Way! http://www.apache.org/theapacheway/index.html - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Apache OpenOffice available in the Microsoft Store on Windows 10
Hi Pedro, all, I almost forgot: French Store Listing is translated and online now (Thanks Bidouille!). I also have a volunteer for Spanish. With the wider availability of the "new" Microsoft Store on Windows 10 and positive feedback (slowly) coming in I think we should update the Release Notes. I will do that for en-US later, translators can then pick up. Regards, Matthias Am 19.11.21 um 18:14 schrieb Pedro Lino: >> On 11/19/2021 4:47 PM Bidouille wrote: >> A french version will be great. > Indeed! > And a Spanish version also... It is the 4th spoken language worlwide and the > 2nd by native speakers. Any Spanish volunteers? > > Regards, > Pedro > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org > smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
Re: Buildbot config - svn or git?
Hi Pedro, all, I am working with Gavin on the Windows buildbot now. When configuration is finished, Gavin will move the file to Git. Regards, Matthias Am 22.11.21 um 23:04 schrieb Pedro Lino: > Hi Matthias > > I would say silence is agreement. > > I assumed AOO moved from SVN to GIT, so in my mind it is the only logical > option? > > If no one has opposed in 4 days (72 hours), I believe this should be a green > light for Gavin to move on? > > Regards, > Pedro > >> On 11/22/2021 8:53 PM Matthias Seidel wrote: >> >> >> Hi all, >> >> any other opinions? >> >> Regards, >> >> Matthias >> >> Am 18.11.21 um 13:38 schrieb Gavin McDonald: >>> Hi , >>> >>> On Wed, Nov 17, 2021 at 9:42 PM Matthias Seidel >>> wrote: >>> Hi Gavin Am 17.11.21 um 11:30 schrieb Gavin McDonald: > Hi All, > > With the new Buildbot 3.x we are using, we also added the ability to host > project config files from either an SVN [1] location or GIT [2] . So now > you have a choice. Currently your modified openoffice.py config lives in > SVN, but I can easily move it to GIT - the choice is yours! Personally, I would prefer git. Do we have write access? >>> Yep, all committers have access >>> >>> Regards, Matthias > HTH > > [1] - https://svn.apache.org/repos/infra/infrastructure/buildbot2/projects > [2] - https://github.com/apache/infrastructure-bb2 > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org > smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
RE: Apache OpenOffice available in the Microsoft Store on Windows 10
> -Original Message- > From: David Robley [mailto:da...@robley.net.au] > Sent: Friday, November 26, 2021 10:33 AM > To: dev@openoffice.apache.org > Subject: Re: Apache OpenOffice available in the Microsoft > Store on Windows 10 > > Perhaps > https://blogs.apache.org/OOo/entry/announcing-apache-openoffic > e-4-17 ?? Thank you for this link. Nevertheless, I am a little surprised that something is happening here that I would count as part of the release process (which imho follows formal rules), which apparently(?) was never discussed _publicly_ in advance. I think the whole thing is not insignificant and I think it would be appropriate if the PMC had informed about it. Jörg - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Apache OpenOffice available in the Microsoft Store on Windows 10
Perhaps https://blogs.apache.org/OOo/entry/announcing-apache-openoffice-4-17 ?? On 26/11/21 7:51 pm, Jörg Schmidt wrote: Why are such announcements made by an individual? Why is there no information from the PMC? Why no press release? Why was there no discussion in the community? Or, am I overlooking something? From: Matthias Seidel [mailto:matthias.sei...@hamburg.de] Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2021 9:51 PM To: dev@openoffice.apache.org; us...@openoffice.apache.org Subject: Apache OpenOffice available in the Microsoft Store on Windows 10 Hi all, Apache OpenOffice has already been available in the new Microsoft Store on Windows 11 since October. With the latest App update, the new store is also coming to Windows 10. Users can now install the latest OpenOffice version with a single click! The Store Listings are localized in English, German, Italian, Polish and Portuguese. Feel free to contact me if you want to add more languages or if you have any questions. Regards, Matthias - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org Cheers -- David Robley The days of the digital watch are numbered - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
RE: Apache OpenOffice available in the Microsoft Store on Windows 10
Why are such announcements made by an individual? Why is there no information from the PMC? Why no press release? Why was there no discussion in the community? Or, am I overlooking something? From: Matthias Seidel [mailto:matthias.sei...@hamburg.de] Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2021 9:51 PM To: dev@openoffice.apache.org; us...@openoffice.apache.org Subject: Apache OpenOffice available in the Microsoft Store on Windows 10 Hi all, Apache OpenOffice has already been available in the new Microsoft Store on Windows 11 since October. With the latest App update, the new store is also coming to Windows 10. Users can now install the latest OpenOffice version with a single click! The Store Listings are localized in English, German, Italian, Polish and Portuguese. Feel free to contact me if you want to add more languages or if you have any questions. Regards, Matthias - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
