Roller account request

2012-11-06 Thread Andrea Pescetti
Of course it took me until I got to the ApacheCon to realize that the 
best way to share information with the community would be to blog about 
what's happening here...


Could anyone authorize my account pescetti to post articles to 
https://blogs.apache.org/OOo/ ? If any preliminary steps are to be 
taken, I can obviously do it, but so far I only bumped into seemingly 
outdated resources like 
https://cwiki.apache.org/INFRA/resource-request-faqs.html


Thank you,
  Andrea.


Re: How is the conference going in SinSheim?

2012-11-07 Thread Andrea Pescetti

Kay Schenk wrote:

When you get this ON the blog, let us know so we can highlight it in the
right hand panel.


Blog post now live. It is the report of Day 1. I hope reporting about 
Day 2 and Day 3 will work more smoothly, and since I now have a working 
Roller account (thanks Marcus) I'll take care of Day 2.


You can find Day 1 at
https://blogs.apache.org/OOo/entry/openoffice_track_at_apachecon_day

Regards,
  Andrea.


Re: ApacheCon Day 2 report

2012-11-08 Thread Andrea Pescetti

Andrea Pescetti wrote:

Here is the Day 2 draft:


Now live at
https://blogs.apache.org/OOo/entry/apache_openoffice_track_at_apachecon

You can share/promote the link as you wish.

Alexandro: we do have some pictures (a lot, actually; and better than 
the ones I had to use here), but the bandwith is not optimal and Roller 
does not support any forms of embedding anyway, as far as I can tell.


We got at least some basic coverage this time, but I agree that we can 
plan it better for the next event.


Regards,
  Andrea.


Re: ApacheCon Day 3 report

2012-11-11 Thread Andrea Pescetti

imacat wrote:

On 01.11.11 07:01pm, Andrea Pescetti said:

The public preview (the one you should check) is at
https://blogs.apache.org/preview/OOo/?previewEntry=apache_openoffice_track_at_apachecon1

+1.  This reads great!  Thanks!


Published at
https://blogs.apache.org/OOo/entry/apache_openoffice_track_at_apachecon1
or, equivalent shorter URL:
http://s.apache.org/openoffice-aceu2012-day-3

This is the link you can use for social media and other communication.

Regards,
  Andrea.


Re: Question ad FOSDEM 2013

2012-11-11 Thread Andrea Pescetti

Rony G. Flatscher (Apache) wrote:

So there is an AOO room on Saturday at FOSDEM 2013,https://fosdem.org.
Is there any need for talks/presentations?


Sure, and proposals from you and others will be most welcome. But we 
still have several weeks available, and we are trying to avoid overlap 
with the current track discussions for ApacheCon North America (talk 
submission due by today-tomorrow depending on timezone).


Next week FOSDEM will be back in the spotlight and we will discuss all 
available opportunities. Stay tuned on ooo-dev!


Regards,
  Andrea.


Re: Question ad FOSDEM 2013

2012-11-11 Thread Andrea Pescetti

On 11/11/2012 jan iversen wrote:

So you are saying hold your horses to me and others getting ready for
FOSDEM ??


I'm saying that we have a talk submission deadline for ApacheCon North 
America coming in less than 24 hours. Focus can then switch to FOSDEM, 
but talking about two big conferences at the same time can be confusing 
and misleading (have a look at the apechecon-discuss archives if you 
need examples). Nobody will suffer too much if we start focusing (again) 
on FOSDEM in 24 hours and give ApacheCon NA the spotlight in the meantime.



Can you please spend a few words on what the correct procedure is ?


I'll give all details in an appropriate thread, which I'll create in 24 
hours. We are going to have some nice and long discussions there, so I 
definitely prefer to get it right from the start. And we will have 
abundant time to discuss and plan, rest assured.


Regards,
  Andrea.


Re: Planned entry for Apache OOO Blog

2012-11-13 Thread Andrea Pescetti

On 13/11/2012 jan iversen wrote:

On 13 November 2012 14:50, Armin Le Grand wrote:

http://blogs.apache.org/preview/OOo/?previewEntry=good_news_libreoffice_is_integrating
Comments welcome!


Nice post! Happy to see developers blogging too...


is there a rule which
licenses are accepted as equal to ours (I think none) ?


Category A at http://www.apache.org/legal/3party.html

Regards,
  Andrea.


Re: Gmane

2012-11-13 Thread Andrea Pescetti

On 11/11/2012 Larry Gusaas wrote:

Gmane's FAQs are at http://gmane.org/faq.php
Contact info at http://gmane.org/contact.php
A simple solution would be to request a new newsgroup,
gmane.comp.apache.openoffice.devel, to carry the mailing list
dev@openoffice.apache.org. I could easily put in that request if you
would like me to.


Yes, please! And if you need to send them a reference about the mailing 
list migration, you can point them to

http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/openoffice-dev/201211.mbox/%3C50963FB0.1090008%40apache.org%3E

Thanks,
  Andrea.


Re: ApacheCon EU Survey

2012-11-14 Thread Andrea Pescetti

On 10/11/2012 jan iversen wrote:

has anyone thought about making events that did not cost
600,- EUR + travel/hotel etc. ??


Yes, free (or with a nominal fee, like 10 EUR) events used to be the norm.


maybe it is time, we made a
OpenOffice (I do not write AOO on purpose) gathering, where developers can
talk to developers without the overhead of a big conference  company !!
I used to do participate in such events, which were highly successful, so I
can only recommend it (and would be pleased to help establish such a
non-commercial event).


Good idea. Maybe something related to 4.0 next Spring... It will require 
that someone organizes it and that it has appeal for most developers to 
attend, but for the rest there's nothing against organizing one: on the 
contrary, it would be very good to setup some informal gathering again.


Regards,
  Andrea.


Re: Apache OO program crashes

2012-11-14 Thread Andrea Pescetti

On 13/11/2012 Painius wrote:

then I should notify all of you to see if someone
else has the problem and possibly a solution.  His tip did
not keep AOO from crashing, so here goes...


Frequent crashes are often due to the first of our Known Issues:
http://www.openoffice.org/development/releases/3.4.1.html#AOO3.4.1ReleaseNotes-KnownIssues

Apache OpenOffice 3.4.0 and 3.4.1 manage the user profile differently 
than previous versions. The old user profile is automatically converted 
so that users can keep their extensions and settings. In a minority of 
cases, especially with highly customized profiles (many extensions or 
customizations) the conversion doesn't succeed. Common symptoms are: 
frequent application crashes, problems with dictionaries or thesaurus, 
OpenOffice starting and crashing after a few seconds. To solve this, 
just reset/rename your user profile as explained in the official 
OpenOffice forum. 
http://user.services.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?t=12426


Regards,
  Andrea.


Re: Apache OpenOffice at FOSDEM 2013

2012-11-14 Thread Andrea Pescetti

Rob Weir wrote:

On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 4:29 PM, Andrea Pescetti wrote:

A draft of the Call for Papers/Talks (text only) is available at
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/FOSDEM+2013+CFP ...

It would be good to jazz this up a little.  Is there a FOSDEM logo
that we are permitted to use?  Does anyone have a good photo (or two)
from ApacheCon that we could use?


Sorry I wasn't clear. That page hosts the text only version: it will 
be copied and pasted into an e-mail, see other announcements at 
https://fosdem.org/2013/ So only the text should be improved there.


https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/FOSDEM+2013+CFP
is just for writing/reviewing this text. Link won't be published.

https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/FOSDEM+2013+Proposals
is the nicer version where we can add formatting, practical information 
and the actual talk submissions too. This is the link we will publish, 
so images can be added here, good suggestion. But we first need the 
other page ready (i.e., the final version of the CFP text).


Regards,
  Andrea.


Re: Apache OO program crashes

2012-11-14 Thread Andrea Pescetti

Rob Weir wrote:

On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 3:08 AM, Andrea Pescetti wrote:

Frequent crashes are often due to the first of our Known Issues:
http://www.openoffice.org/development/releases/3.4.1.html#AOO3.4.1ReleaseNotes-KnownIssues

So if this is our #1 issue, is there anything we can do to improve it?
Deleting the profile is really a power-user remedy.


There is surely someone on this list who can hack together a few lines 
of Visual Basic (or whatever; even a .BAT file would work) and build a 
profile renaming tool we can point people to.



Has anyone tried to figure out exactly what is happening?  Is there
anyway we can finally fix this in AOO 4.0?


It's hard to reproduce since it depends on customizations. But I believe 
it will be fixed automatically in 4.0 since new major releases should 
start with a clean profile (they use a different folder name anyway, and 
I don't believe users will be upset if we don't migrate their 3.x 
customizations to 4.0).


Regards,
  Andrea.


Re: Missing option in right click under OO 3.4.1

2012-11-14 Thread Andrea Pescetti

On 29/10/2012 Andrea Pescetti wrote:

On 25/10/2012 Eric Byers wrote:

MS Office was installed first. Followed by OO 3.4.1 After the
installation of OO, the option under the right mouse click for a new MS
Word document was removed. Right click in a folder space, select New -
spreadsheets, text documents and others show as possible selections,
however the MS Word option no longer exists. I use it frequently. Please
direct me as to how to re-add this option to my right click menu.


It seems this is a common problem with Office 2010 rather than something
related to OpenOffice. For instance, there are several solutions
discussed at
http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_vista-files/right-click-menu-in-explorer-desktop-missing-new/f0244fe4-216b-459c-b48f-a3d0396b6b11


For the record, the user let me know that he solved the problem and he 
allowed me to share the solution here. Please find it below.

  ---
The link was to a Microsoft blog entry that walked through the 
modification of the registry.  The main difference is that I was not 
missing the OPenWithList key.  In my case the default had simply been 
overwritten.  While I did add the other keys as suggested within 
OpenWithList, I suspect the main fix was when I followed the last 
suggestion to rename the default since my default had been switched to 
OO.   Here is the relevant portion:


I opened the registry to – HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\.docx

Steps creating keys are done on the left window pane in the registry.

1) Below the .docx key I create the first key that was missing by 
right clicking on the “.docx” key then go down to New, then left click 
on Key and name it “OpenWithList” without the quotes.


Inside of that key is the automatically created String Value (default) 
REG_SZ   (value not set)


2) Inside of the “OpenWithList” create the second key. Right click 
on the “OpenWithList” key then go down to New, then left click on Key 
and name this new key “WordPad.exe” without the quotes.


Inside of that key is the automatically created String Value (default) 
REG_SZ   (value not set)




3) Right click on the “.docx” key then go down to New, then left 
click on Key to create the third key and name it “Word.Document.12” 
without the quotes.


Inside of that key is the automatically created String Value (default) 
REG_SZ   (value not set)


4) Right click on the “Word.Document.12” key then go down to New, 
then left click on Key to create the fourth key and name it “ShellNew” 
without the quotes.


Inside of that key is the automatically created String Value (default) 
REG_SZ   (value not set)




The next thing to do is to create a string value newly created 
“ShellNew” key but this is done in the window on the right side.


5) Left click on ShellNew in the left window to select the key. Now 
in the window on the right side; Right click in the empty space go to 
New then select String Value. Name the new string “NullFile” without the 
quotes, Type is REG_SZ Leave the data empty.


6) Lastly, in the left window left click on key .docx, In the right 
side window make sure that the data of the (Default) string is 
Word.Document.12 – To change it, doubleclick on the string named 
(Default) , a window will open up and you change the data value to 
Word.Document.12 (My data value was “docx_auto_file”)

  ---
Regards,
  Andrea.


Re: [DISCUSS] Do we want download links for Dev Builds on a usual webpage?

2012-11-14 Thread Andrea Pescetti

On 11/11/2012 Kay Schenk wrote:

On 11/11/2012 04:22 AM, Andrea Pescetti wrote:

https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Development+Snapshot+Builds
(they are also called with/without system integration respectively).


OK, I see this note and I confess I don't pay much attention to it, and
typically install in parallel for these. But, I keep the same user
profile if you will, and this doesn't seem to cause problems for me.

Right now this note says:
This week's builds are built without system integration.
Is the the normal?


What is normal highly depends on the status of the builds we are 
providing. For ordinary snapshots, without system integration is 
normal because they will co-exist with a stable version and be updated 
frequently; this would be the case for a beta release too, but as we 
approach release we will want to test system integration too and the 
normal snapshot will have system integration enabled. This is agreed 
on a case-by-case basis when we start building.


Regards,
  Andrea.


Re: Draft Blog Post: You Can Help Us Improve OpenOffice by Helping Us Test

2012-11-15 Thread Andrea Pescetti

On 06/11/2012 Rob Weir wrote:

https://blogs.apache.org/preview/OOo/?previewEntry=you_can_help_us_improve


Thanks, the final version at
https://blogs.apache.org/OOo/entry/you_can_help_us_improve
is very good and useful to the project, like everything else you've 
published on the OpenOffice blog so far (I won't comment on what you 
write elsewhere, let's say it would be off-topic!).


So the result is, we did already recruit some new QA volunteers. And 
this is great. What is now the best way to keep them involved? In the 
medium-long term, they will probably become able to follow issue queues 
and triage bugs independently, but shall we schedule some introductory 
QA activities at some point in late November to give new volunteers 
something to work on?


Would it be easier to ask them to run manual tests on a build (if we 
have enough testcases, this is probably the best way to introduce them 
to QA) or to assign them random bugs from IssueZilla unconfirmed issues 
and have them verify them?


Regards,
  Andrea.


Re: Apache OpenOffice at FOSDEM 2013

2012-11-15 Thread Andrea Pescetti

On 14/11/2012 Andrea Pescetti wrote:

copied and pasted into an e-mail, see other announcements ...
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/FOSDEM+2013+CFP
is just for writing/reviewing this text. Link won't be published.


Reminder: in slightly more than 24 hours, that page will be copied and 
pasted into a text-only message to the FOSDEM mailing lists and (if 
nobody opposes) to ooo-dev and ooo-announce. So far, only Rob made a few 
minor edits. Feel free to improve the call for talks before it is sent.


Regards,
  Andrea.


Re: Best practices for contributing code to both Apache OpenOffice and LibreOffice

2012-11-15 Thread Andrea Pescetti

Rob Weir wrote:

The problem:  Many (most?) open source contributors are not opposed to
AOO or LO.  They are just interested in helping out.  If they produce
a patch, or documentation, fix a bug or add a translation, they want
to maximize the public good that comes from that work.


You are writing this from the point of view of an individual 
contributor, but, as Day 3 of the ApacheCon 
http://s.apache.org/openoffice-aceu2012-day-3 showed, a huge opportunity 
is sponsored development. In that case, contributions are often more 
significant and the sponsor gets to choose the contractual details. 
Whatever policy (or set of instructions) we establish, we must make sure 
this case is included too.



A contributor merely needs to state that they are making their patch
available to AOO under ALv2.  There are various ways to record this
fact publicly.  One is to make the statement in the source system (git
or BZ).  But that is extra work.  Another way might be submit an iCLA
to Apache.  Another way might be to publicly record an intention on
our dev@ list


An ICLA is likely the safest way for large contributions. But this 
merely shifts the problem to defining the meaning of large...


Regards,
  Andrea.


Re: bugzilla.

2012-11-15 Thread Andrea Pescetti

On 15/11/2012 jan iversen wrote:

I have a new mail account, which I have created in bugzilla.
Is there a way to move the bugs I have reported with my old e-mail to the
new e-mail (in bugzilla) ?


Regina is right, the right way is: update your e-mail address in the old 
account. Creating a new one is problematic to handle. You can probably 
still solve this by pointing the new account to some unused e-mail 
address and then editing the old account. If this doesn't work, you'll 
have to subscribe (CC) all issues linked to the old account with the new 
one.


Note that using your (brand new!) @apache.org address in Bugzilla 
automatically gives you higher privileges.


Regards,
  Andrea.


Re: buildbot success in ASF Buildbot on aoo-w7snap

2012-11-15 Thread Andrea Pescetti

On 13/11/2012 Andrew Rist wrote:

That makes all flows 'green'.
Including this new build that builds from the SNAPSHOT tag.


Great news! Working buildbots are a prerequisite to proper QA.


What changes need to be made to these install bits usable as our dev
snapshot?


Localization on non-Windows platforms (at least at langpacks). Building 
with --enable-copyleft (it seems these builds do not include copyleft 
components we ship in the binary builds).


Regards,
  Andrea.


Re: FOSDEM 2013

2012-11-18 Thread Andrea Pescetti

On 17/11/2012 Dick Stomp wrote:

I'm going to visit FOSDEM 2013 in Brussels to LISTEN.


Great, see you there! So far only the Devroom (2 Feb) is confirmed, but 
we might also have, in addition, a stand available for the entire 
weekend, perfect for informal talks, user questions and demos.


Regards,
  Andrea.


Re: New committer: Jan Iversen

2012-11-18 Thread Andrea Pescetti

On 16/11/2012 Rob Weir wrote:

On Fri, Nov 16, 2012 at 5:05 AM, jan iversen wrote:

Any idea when SVN will be relocated ?

You can see the latest status on the JIRA issues here:
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-5407
It looks like we need careful coordination between the website
migration and the SVN migration since the website is built from SVN.


Since we don't have a timeline for the SVN migration yet, I've also 
added Jan to the old authorization groups. Jan, in 24 hours (not now!) 
you should be able to commit to the current SVN repositories, like:

- Sources: https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/ooo/trunk
- Site: https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/ooo/ooo-site/trunk
- Incubator site: https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/ooo/site/trunk

and (again, in 24 hours) you should see ooo and incubator next to 
your name at

http://people.apache.org/committer-index.html#J

Regards,
  Andrea.


Re: Calling all consultants, developers, trainers, etc., offering professional services related to OpenOffice

2012-11-19 Thread Andrea Pescetti

On 04/10/2012 Rob Weir wrote:

We're in the process of creating an updated OpenOffice professional
services directory, to replace the outdated one that we removed from
the website a few months ago.


I've been looking at doing the same for the /it website, with the aim 
to obtain a list of Italian consultants. As I see it, this would be a 
fork of the consultants database, since we would list there only the 
Italian consultants (as it used to be) and link to

http://www.openoffice.org/bizdev/consultants.html
for global information.

The problem is that in this case we will want the output page to appear 
under /it and take the branding normally applied to the /it directory.


What's the best way to do it? An svn copy of consultants from 
/bizdev to /it and subsequent customization? This is not so nice, 
but with version control it wouldn't be very painful to synchronize 
relevant changes. Or shall I need to just put in /bizdev/consultants a 
new file, say to-html_it.xsl, that takes a new database, say 
consultants_it.xml, and produces an HTML file in /it? The latter 
option reduces duplication but adds clutter to /bizdev/consultants.


Regards,
  Andrea.


Re: Draft blog post: Call for Marketing Volunteers

2012-11-21 Thread Andrea Pescetti

Rob Weir wrote:

https://blogs.apache.org/preview/OOo/?previewEntry=call_for_marketing_volunteers


Nice post, and I see it's now published at
https://blogs.apache.org/OOo/entry/call_for_marketing_volunteers

but I would suggest to consider a couple of items for community development:

1) The call for QA volunteers has now disappeared from the 
openoffice.org home page. We were getting several new volunteers per 
day. It would be nice to add a sentence to

https://blogs.apache.org/OOo/entry/call_for_marketing_volunteers
to say that we are still recruiting QA volunteers, and link to the QA post.

2) Welcoming Marketing volunteers has to be smoother than what happened 
with QA volunteers (most of them didn't subscribe to ooo-qa and we were 
constantly resending the same links to the list). It would be great if 
someone on ooo-marketing can commit to:
- Send a short welcome note to new volunteers (and complete it with 
suggestions on how they can help, if their introduction is interesting)
- Check that new volunteers are subscribed to the list and tell them how 
to do it if they aren't (check for the Delivered-To: moderator header; 
Rob included instructions in his post, so most volunteers should 
subscribe before posting)
- Engage new volunteers in some marketing-related discussion when 
several new people have joined, to win the initial shyness of new 
volunteers.


Regards,
  Andrea.



Re: Apache OpenOffice: Call for Marketing Volunteers

2012-11-21 Thread Andrea Pescetti

jan iversen wrote:

the l10n.openoffice.org, still has the old banner ?
Should I do something, I thought that when someone updated the master
template, it was all changed ??


If you use custom branding (and /l10n does, like /it does) you need to 
update the banner manually: see

http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?view=revisionrevision=1412312
(the same change, just made for /it) for more.

I personally do the change in an SVN checkout, then commit, then open 
the CMS, update and publish. But you can probably do everything within 
the CMS if you prefer to work online.


Regards,
  Andrea.


Re: [RELEASE] AOO.next = AOO 4.0

2012-11-22 Thread Andrea Pescetti

On 22/11/2012 Jürgen Schmidt wrote:

On 11/21/12 10:14 PM, Marcus (OOo) wrote:

Am 11/21/2012 09:41 PM, schrieb jan iversen:

On 21 November 2012 21:30, Andrea Pescetti wrote:

I would propose the following:
- We announce on ooo-l10n that 2 December is the first deadline for
integration of new languages in 3.4.1

December 2 is very close ...

indeed very close and I will be offline for some further days next week.
I count at least 3 languages Danish, Polish, Scots Gaelic.


I we have 3 languages ready I wouldn't wait much longer. I mean, if we 
reach the point where we can automate it enough (we have to, at least 
for the 3.4.x series), then we can respin 3.4.1 even on a monthly 
basis. If it is too much work then we have an infrastructural problem to 
solve.


Of course, since most of this work is on you, Ariel and mirrors I would 
perfectly accept to shift the date forward if you believe it's better; 
but communicating a clear deadline and releasing a few new languages 
soon would prove that we are ready to do these releases without too much 
overhead, and that volunteers can test their work without waiting for 
months.



Marcus (OOo) wrote:
When we release new languages I think it's worth enough to name it 3.4.2.


No, if we name it 3.4.2 we imply it has something new in the English, 
German, Italian, ... version and communicating it would be unnecessary 
complex. If it is 3.4.1, it must be distributed as 3.4.1.


Regards,
  Andrea.


Re: Wiki spamming is going to get worse if something isn't done soon...

2012-11-22 Thread Andrea Pescetti

On 22/11/2012 C wrote:

TJ pointed me at the Wiki Spam problem.  I can try to lend a hand.


Thanks Clayton, you probably know the inner details of our Mediawiki 
configuration better than most people here, so it is great that you are 
going to coordinate with Jan to neutralize this attack.


Regards,
  Andrea.


Re: Bad press

2012-11-22 Thread Andrea Pescetti

On 21/11/2012 Rob Weir wrote:

Google shows 337 stories for the Freiburg story.  But did you see a
mention of the Leipzig story?  I saw a few, but even though it was the
larger migration, I saw only brief mentions.


If we can manage to invite the Leipzig administrators to be interviewed, 
or write a guest blog post, on the official OpenOffice blog, this might 
be a good answer. I have no idea on how to contact them, but we have 
quite a few volunteers in Germany who could approach them if desirable.


Regards,
  Andrea.


Re: Apache OpenOffice at FOSDEM 2013

2012-11-22 Thread Andrea Pescetti

On 21/11/2012 Jürgen Schmidt wrote:

Always nice are cups, T-Shirts, stickers, flyers,... something like
that. Ideally not branded for FOSDEM but more neutral for AOO that it
can be used for other events as well.


Excellent idea. At least we should have some t-shirts for volunteers and 
a simple gadget to distribute (a notepad can be ok, a USB stick with 
OpenOffice and related content might be nice too, but it's probably more 
expensive).



We can also think about AOO branded note pads (~1500-2000) that we can
give the organizers to put it in the conference welcome packs.


I'm not sure FOSDEM has conference welcome packs. I don't recall being 
given one in recent years.



If we want to do something like this, we need ideas for an logo/image


Yes, and consider that, with the rebranding currently ongoing, it could 
happen that we have a new logo soon. So we shouldn't exaggerate with 
quantities.


Regards,
  Andrea.


Re: Apache OpenOffice at FOSDEM 2013

2012-11-23 Thread Andrea Pescetti

RA Stehmann wrote:

Am 23.11.2012 10:53, schrieb Sylvain DENIS:

as Guy, I can come to the stand one day or two. I live in Belgium ...

That's great, because we need some french speaking persons.


Nice to see we are building a FOSDEM team for the stand, thank you! If 
you like, you can edit

http://s.apache.org/fosdem-2013-proposals
and add somehwere a table with presence at the stand, and languages spoken.

Regards,
  Andrea.


Re: [RELEASE]: new languages for AOO 3.4.1

2012-11-26 Thread Andrea Pescetti

On 23/11/2012 Jürgen Schmidt wrote:

1. Only new languages, no bugfixes, no other code changes
We add the new languages on top of the existing AOO34 branch, build the
office with the new languages and release the new languages as
convenience binary packages. We also build a new src release package and
add the revision number ... aoo-3.4.1-rev1372282-src.tar.bz2


This is the best solution for me.


2. New languages + bug-fixes or security fixes
The micro number will be increased and we do a normal release cycle.
The src release will contain the revision number in future always.


This could still be a possibility, but only if we need to fix a critical 
security bug and 4.0 seems too far away. In that case, of course, we 
would need to release a 3.4.2 with only that security fix and doing so 
we would include all languages that are ready for 3.4.



1. set a deadline for new translations, for exmaple December 31, 2012
2. integrate the new languages and provide the builds until January 10, 2013
3. test and verify the new language builds asap
4. release the new languages at the end of January


All fine to me. I would honestly have started with what we already have 
and release it as soon as possible, and possibly with another release 
manager (so, Juergen focused on 4.x someone else works on the 
maintenance releases of 3.4.x), to test the process and avoid late 
surprises or policy questions. But if for the time being this is the 
best solution for release management, fine. Sure, in future we should 
definitely avoid that it takes this long to get a translation integrated 
and released. So I would try to use this occasion to learn how we can 
streamline the release process as much as possible. But let's start to 
communicate clear deadlines to volunteers,


Regards,
  Andrea.


Re: What can we do to make our header text rotate?

2012-11-27 Thread Andrea Pescetti

On 23/11/2012 Rob Weir wrote:

Or we can just do with Javascript.  It is easy enough to make the
experience for those without JS to be the same as what they see today,
a single hard-coded message.


Exactly. It is probably enough to extend brand.mdtext to generate three 
banners instead of one, and to use a simple JavaScript to show only one 
of the three banners (or place only one of the three texts inside a 
given div). Banner localization will still work.


Regards,
  Andrea.


Re: Wiki maintenance.

2012-11-27 Thread Andrea Pescetti

On 25/11/2012 jan iversen wrote:

a) In order to keep track of all php/apache/mysql changes to wiki, I will
make a directory wiki-maintenance in SVN on level with trunk.


Which SVN? I wouldn't put it in
https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openoffice/
since it's already dirty enough (mixing the classic trunk/tags/branches 
with site pages, symphony and other stuff) and because the files you 
might copy there are probably under different licenses than Apache 
License 2.


I agree we should have this stuff versioned (actually, all configuration 
files on the Apache infrastructure are versioned, but in distinct SVN 
repository). I'll check with Infra what's the best place for versioning 
configuration files and report back, provided I get an answer.



g) Make a test.wiki.openoffice.org. This can be done with a simple alias in
apache conf, but should be done with a JIRA ticket.


We will also need to have the DNS entry created in that case. Again, a 
JIRA ticket is needed. And the test installation should be configured 
to: not send e-mails; have a .htaccess password protection so that 
nobody opens it by mistake.


And thank you everybody for your work on the wiki so far!

Regards,
  Andrea.


Re: Installation of Open Office/Re-installation

2012-11-27 Thread Andrea Pescetti

Forwarding the answer to Ron (below). Ron, please follow the archives at
http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/openoffice-dev/ or subscribe to
the list (same link) if you don't want to miss answers. Andrea

On 27/11/2012 Rory O'Farrell wrote:

On Tue, 27 Nov 2012 09:38:22 -0500 Ron Napierronnapier...@gmail.com
wrote:


After several attempts to install I discovered news about the spam
attack. So sorry! I would like to re-install. Uninstalled because
it would not open. Please advise.


Normally, OpenOffice not opening on a computer on which it did open
earlier indicates that there has been a program or system crash, or
perhaps too speedy a close down of the computer (not enough time for
write buffers to flush); the normal cure is to start TaskManager,
then to kill any soffice processes shown running on TaskManager's
Processes tab.




Re: Apache OpenOffice at FOSDEM 2013

2012-11-28 Thread Andrea Pescetti

On 21/11/2012 Andrea Pescetti wrote:

On 12/11/2012 Andrea Pescetti wrote:

3) An Apache OpenOffice speaker in the main track ...
Timeline: proposals due by 1 Dec ...

This is still unaddressed. It's time to agree on a proposed talk here.
Ideas? In case it turns out to be too narrow in scope for the main
track, we will of course put it in our devroom track, so effort here is
not wasted.


Last call: if we want a talk from Apache OpenOffice to appear in the 
main track, it needs to be submitted (and ideally, agreed on this list) 
within 3 days. Otherwise we will still have our dedicated track 
(devroom), but a talk in the main track is an important occasion to be 
more visible.


Regards,
  Andrea.


Re: Wiki maintenance.

2012-11-28 Thread Andrea Pescetti

On 27/11/2012 23:23, janI wrote:

On 27 November 2012 22:53, Andrea Pescetti  wrote:

On 25/11/2012 jan iversen wrote:
I agree we should have this stuff versioned (actually, all configuration
files on the Apache infrastructure are versioned, but in distinct SVN
repository). I'll check with Infra what's the best place for versioning
configuration files and report back, provided I get an answer.

As far as I know, that is the only svn I have access to...and we do have
ooo-site in there, so it would be quite natural to have wiki as well.


Infra (Gavin) says that some files already are under version
control, and that the correct place to put config files is under:
/infrainfrastructure/trunk/machines/vms/ooo-wiki.apache.org/
[Note: I don't know if he really meant infrainfrastructure]
He says that some files under /etc/ are there.

Gavin asks that you catch him (or another infra member) on IRC #asfinfra 
to agree on the best way of doing this.



it is nice that all AOO stuff is in
one SVN, and that is nicely divided into distinct directories.


We can disagree about the nicely divided, but this is only aesthetic 
and not a blocker for this discussion!



they do have (of course) SVN for VM specific settings, but wiki php
files or mysql scripts, that is not part of their domain.


Apparently they prefer to version application-specific files in the same 
way, but just find out with them directly as explained above, it's easier.



g) Make a test.wiki.openoffice.org. ...
We will also need to have the DNS entry created in that case. Again, a
JIRA ticket is needed. And the test installation should be configured to:
not send e-mails; have a .htaccess password protection so that nobody opens
it by mistake.

Actually we do have a number of aliases on wiki at the moment that are not
in the DNS


Yes, but we only alias *.openoffice.org , not *.*.openoffice.org ; so 
test.wiki.openoffice.org won't resolve, while testwiki.openoffice.org would.



We need to have a place to test an upgrade, with mail, create user and
everything, otherwise we run a high risk when it is moved to production.


Enabling mail is quite a risk. If I am watching a page and you edit it 
on test, I will receive a notification. If you bulk-edit 100 pages just 
to try, I'll receive 100 notifications! If it really needs to be enabled 
I would recommend to make sure it doesn't have side effects for the 
tests that are run.



And I dont think anybody uses e.g. test.wiki.openoffice.org or 
solelyfortesting.wiki.openoffice.org without actually wanting to use it.


Clueless users manage to do incredible things. See how the spam attack 
on the wiki has been understood by some to be a virus on openoffice.org 
(while of course being totally unrelated). See how many people, before I 
added If you need to edit pages on this wiki to the wiki banner, 
contacted this list not understanding what a wiki account is needed for. 
So it's safer for everybody, and I'd warmly recommend, to put a simple 
.htaccess (you can even suggest username and password in the message 
box, and they can well be test and wiki!) on the test wiki, to avoid 
that it is indexed by robot.txt-ignoring search engines and attacked by 
random bots. It is a very small overhead, and there is concrete 
possibility that if we don't do it we will regret.


Regards,
  Andrea.


Re: Gmane

2012-11-28 Thread Andrea Pescetti

On 18/11/2012 Andrea Pescetti wrote:

I found out Gmane was carrying the following lists and I've
submitted requests to update them copying your configuration for the dev
and users list. They should become available within a few days.

# gmane.comp.apache.incubator.ooo.announce
Announcements for Apache OpenOffice (read-only)
Proposed new name: gmane.comp.apache.openoffice.announce


Now available at
http://dir.gmane.org/gmane.comp.apache.openoffice.announce


# gmane.comp.apache.incubator.ooo.commits
Apache OpenOffice SVN commit list (read-only)
Proposed new name: gmane.comp.apache.openoffice.commits


Now available at
http://dir.gmane.org/gmane.comp.apache.openoffice.scm


# gmane.comp.apache.incubator.ooo.issues
Apache OpenOffice issue tracker list (read-only)
Proposed new name: gmane.comp.apache.openoffice.issues


Now available at
http://dir.gmane.org/gmane.comp.apache.openoffice.issues

Regards,
  Andrea.


Re: Spellchecker

2012-11-28 Thread Andrea Pescetti

On 28/11/2012 Jennifer Balls wrote:

For some reason my Spellcheck has gone wrong! It was working well and
now I either get a red wiggly line under every word OR I have to
correct every individual word!


Hi Jennifer, reset your profile. First bullet point of
http://www.openoffice.org/development/releases/3.4.1.html#AOO3.4.1ReleaseNotes-KnownIssues 
:


Apache OpenOffice 3.4.0 and 3.4.1 manage the user profile differently 
than previous versions. The old user profile is automatically converted 
so that users can keep their extensions and settings. In a minority of 
cases, especially with highly customized profiles (many extensions or 
customizations) the conversion doesn't succeed. Common symptoms are: 
frequent application crashes, problems with dictionaries or thesaurus, 
OpenOffice starting and crashing after a few seconds. To solve this, 
just reset/rename your user profile as explained in the official 
OpenOffice forum. 
http://user.services.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?t=12426


Regards,
  Andrea.


Re: Apache OpenOffice at FOSDEM 2013

2012-11-29 Thread Andrea Pescetti

On 25/11/2012 Sylvain DENIS wrote:

a stand is planned?


It has been requested. It will only be confirmed mid-December 
(originally, the deadline was this week).



on page http://s.apache.org/fosdem-2013-proposals there is no category
stand, for volunteers and languages and journey.


I created
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/FOSDEM+2013+Organization
so that everybody can write details there.

Regards,
  Andrea.


Re: School project

2012-11-29 Thread Andrea Pescetti

On 27/11/2012 lacoyia wrote:

Sorry to hear about your situation.  Would you please add me manually?


Hi LaCoyia, you need to be added manually only if you need to edit pages 
on http://wiki.openoffice.org (most OpenOffice users don't); if this is 
what you want, just write us back to confirm it and one of our wiki 
administrators will give you the rights you need.


Regards,
  Andrea.


Re: [call for review] wiki maintenance

2012-11-29 Thread Andrea Pescetti

On 29/11/2012 janI wrote:

ooo-wiki VM is so weak (compared to my notebook) that a lot of my special
select/join statements timed out...and the just because I have a simple
where clause where user_id in (select user_id from wiki_maint_uids)


I only had a quick look yesterday and I cannot check now, but there were 
several possible speed improvements, including using a simple JOIN 
instead if a LEFT JOIN and then discarding NULL matches, introducing a 
primary key or an index in the wiki_maint_uids table and using update on 
joins instead of subqueries. I didn't test any of these, and I didn't 
see the database, so don't trust the lines above too much! They are just 
semi-random thoughts based on the code I saw yesterday, and it could 
turn out that these changes slow down the queries instead of improving them.


Regards,
  Andrea.


Re: L10n tools is no longer needed.

2012-12-01 Thread Andrea Pescetti

On 28/11/2012 janI wrote:

I have had a look, and the tool does with a few exceptions, what genLang
was supposed to do. There are no reason to make parallel developments so
the l10n development has been stopped.


Reading the description it seems it can be used as a basis to improve 
the Apache OpenOffice localization process too. As others already 
pointed out in this discussion, there are some good arguments for making 
a stand-alone project out of this tool, and this seems a reasonable 
solution.



Would it not be a wonderful world, if openSource was truly open and we
could share ... why are we
as volunteers not trying harder to reach that goal.


How much harder? I think it's hard to try harder. Three recent examples, 
all coming from the official Apache blog or consensus on mailing lists:


- our FOSDEM offer to share a devroom:
http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-ooo-dev/201210.mbox/%3c50904023.6050...@apache.org%3E

- my ApacheCon presentation
http://s.apache.org/openoffice-aceu2012-day-1

- code contributions Apache OpenOffice is making to LibreOffice
https://blogs.apache.org/OOo/entry/good_news_libreoffice_is_integrating

So the Apache OpenOffice side did show willingness to cooperate. But 
cooperation needs willingness on both sides.



If I were PMC I would have one high priority on my list


I quite disagree on two points here:

1) You seem to believe Apache OpenOffice is not seeing this as high 
priority, while I believe Apache OpenOffice is really the only active 
party in this discussion.


2) You imply that only PMC members can make a change. This is not true. 
Not being a committer may prevent a contributor from getting things 
done, but not being a PMC member does not prevent anyone from being 
heard or influential.


Regards,
  Andrea.


Re: An official Git-Mirror?

2012-12-02 Thread Andrea Pescetti

On 30/11/2012 Herbert Duerr wrote:

It would all be much simpler if we had an official git-mirror [1] of our
svn-repository.


OK, this will also make contributing easier for the new developers who 
know only git, since they will be able to checkout (clone) only trunk, 
branches and tags and submit patches with git format-patch. So they 
won't need to learn (or endure, depending on the individual 
inclinations) SVN to help.


Regards,
  Andrea.


Re: Sidebar

2012-12-02 Thread Andrea Pescetti

On 30/11/2012 Andre Fischer wrote:

I will be working on the implementation of the
sidebar. In the hope of motivating others (you) to join me, I have
created a wiki page that gives a first and rough outline of the work
that has to be done and the API and code that already exists and
(hopefully) can be reused or adapted:
http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Sidebar


Thanks Andre, it seems that tasks are still very broad, so I guess that 
this call is mainly aimed at existing or full-time developers, but if 
you identify small self-contained tasks where new developers could be 
involved please advertise them, since they might be useful in a future 
call for developers or for FOSDEM.


Regards,
  Andrea.


FAQ page (Re: IPAD)

2012-12-02 Thread Andrea Pescetti

On 26/11/2012 Rob Weir wrote:

[Can I install Openoffice on my IPAD?] I nominate this for an FAQ.


I agree. But where is our FAQ page currently? Unfortunately, there's an 
OpenOffice FAQ easily reachable by search engines at 
http://www.openoffice.org/faq.html and quite outdated (I don't know 
whether it's reachable from the home page, but it doesn't seem so).


Time to make a new FAQ available or update the old one and link to it 
from the current site?


Regards,
  Andrea.


Re: Unsubscribe in Commits

2012-12-03 Thread Andrea Pescetti

Albino Biasutti Neto wrote:

2012/12/3 Andrea Pescettipesce...@apache.org:

There's a typo here: commmits -  commits...

You should edit the page AOO for mailing:
http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/mailing-lists.html#commits-mailing-list


Thanks, fixed in SVN. Will appear online when the site is published and 
moved out of the incubator.


Regards,
  Andrea.


Re: New repository credentials in place

2012-12-05 Thread Andrea Pescetti

On 04/12/2012 Rob Weir wrote:

On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 7:06 AM, Andrea Pescetti wrote:

The new repository credentials (thanks Sebb) have been active for about 18
hours.

This is good news.  Does it help us get the CMS working again?


No, it merely enforces consistency between the committers listed on the 
web pages and the users who can commit. It doesn't affect the CMS (or 
website) setup in any other way, unfortunately.


Regards,
  Andrea.


Re: dist move...

2012-12-06 Thread Andrea Pescetti

Kay Schenk wrote:

Also, of more immediate concern is the archiving of the 3.4.0 source
release and possibly the 3.3. patch.


This shouldn't be a problem. Everything is already on the Apache archive 
server.


Examples:
- 3.3 patch: http://archive.apache.org/dist/incubator/ooo/3.3/
- 3.4.0 source: http://archive.apache.org/dist/incubator/ooo/3.4.0/source/
- 3.4.1 binaries in German: 
http://archive.apache.org/dist/incubator/ooo/files/localized/de/3.4.1/


I don't see anything missing. The archive is obviously meant for 
archival and not for distribution, but it already contains everything we 
released so far.


Regards,
  Andrea.


Re: [RELEASE] AOO.next = AOO 4.0

2012-12-06 Thread Andrea Pescetti

On 04/12/2012 Ariel Constenla-Haile wrote:

What was the outcome of this thread? Is trunk in 4.0 mode?
Andrea update to https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/x/f8KoAQ
suggests so (I may have missed some mail telling so).


No formal mail was sent, but there was large consensus on 4.0, so we can 
assume the trunk to be in 4.0 mode. All recently integrated changes into 
http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/openoffice/trunk/ go in this direction too.


Regards,
  Andrea.


Re: hello everybody.

2012-12-06 Thread Andrea Pescetti
Forwarding Juergen's answer, below, to Asim. Asim, please follow the 
archives at http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/openoffice-dev/ to 
see answers. Andrea


On 05/12/2012 Jürgen Schmidt wrote:

On 12/5/12 2:50 AM, nimes raut wrote:

hi, my name is asim raut from nepal.i study management course online from u.s.i 
love trekking,rafting,cycling.in my spare time ,i love to read books,watch 
movies and  enjoy listening songs.

   asim raut
   g.p.o box no.7759
kathmandu,nepal



Hi asim,

welcome at Apache OpenOffice. Perhaps you can share with us what are
your interest in OpenOffice what are you have in mind, what are the
working areas you are interested in?

Feel free to ask any kind of question that goes in direction of how you
can help and join the project. If you are interested more in user
questions I would recommend our users (users at openoffice.apache.org
list or the forum (http://forum.openoffice.org/)

Regards

Juergen



Re: Hello!

2012-12-07 Thread Andrea Pescetti

Ruth Cunningham wrote:

My name's Ruth Cunningham, from West London.
I'm currently studying at University, interested in Social Research
but looking to explore Marketing.


Welcome, Ruth! If you want to help with marketing you will find 
information at

http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/orientation/intro-marketing.html
and please make sure to subscribe to the marketing mailing list: send an 
empty e-mail to marketing-subscr...@openoffice.apache.org and respond to 
the confirmation request you will receive.

Regards,
  Andrea.


Re: [RELEASE]: new languages for AOO 3.4.1

2012-12-07 Thread Andrea Pescetti

On 04/12/2012 Rob Weir wrote:

We should introduce a disconnect here, to avoid 1 million
uses in Poland ignoring your easily ignored caveat and overwhelming
the people.apache.org server.


This specific issue has now been solved by invoking policy (so, we will 
be able to put builds on people.apache.org but we won't link to them 
from the main website), but the problem is not here. The problem is that 
we have had a Polish translation ready for months and that we haven't 
released it yet (even though recent improvements are really huge and 
will allow to avoid long waits in future).


In general, and coming back to the main thread topic, if we have 
millions of people who look for a certain language, we can find 
volunteers for that language, and your brilliant idea to put notices on 
the native-language websites proves it. So the problem is how to use our 
volunteers effectively and motivate them. Ideally, I would like that it 
doesn't take more than two months between the moment someone volunteers 
to complete a language and the official availability of a build 
including his work.


If we try to motivate volunteers and to understand where the obstacles 
are, we can probably make the all languages build virtually useless, 
since all relevant languages will have been covered. I've just started a 
discussion on ooo-l10n to check the status of the 19 extra translations 
for which someone volunteered so far. I hope that this will also help in 
finding if the current policy can be improved: after all, OpenOffice has 
(probably) more committers than any other Apache project, it accounts 
for 40% of all Apache web traffic (downloads excluded!) and if we 
identify clear problems with the policy we can definitely initiate 
changes to it.


Regards,
  Andrea.


Re: Draft Board report for December

2012-12-08 Thread Andrea Pescetti

janI wrote:

Could you please or someone else make a wiki page, that explains the setup,
and why we (as volunteers) have to report to a board !!


Hi Jan, there's plenty of documentation about that, but no need to 
worry! You can find the basic information here:

http://apache.org/foundation/how-it-works.html#structure

But, in short, the Apache Foundation, as it is reasonable for an 
organization of this size (even if volunteers-driven) has a Board, that 
is responsible for overseeing the general functioning of the organization.


A fundamental difference between a company Board and the Apache Board is 
that the Apache Board is not deciding on strategy or day-to-day 
management of the project: Apache OpenOffice is fully self-managing and 
all decisions are taken on this mailing list. Indeed you are an Apache 
OpenOffice committer and never saw the Board interfering with our 
discussions or decisions.


However, as a registered non-profit charity, the Apache Foundation has a 
few legal obligations and the Board needs to stay informed about the 
projects' activity, since it is ultimately accountable for that: so the 
project (and this is one of my tasks) periodically has to write a short 
report like the one you have seen and send it to the Board. In future 
(from January 2013) this will happen every 3 months.


Regards,
  Andrea.


Re: Draft Board report for December

2012-12-08 Thread Andrea Pescetti

Rob Weir wrote:

For the language refresh release in January, is there a reason why we
need to release a full source package?


No, indeed. I've now put more generic wording in the report. (And I've 
also added links to the explanations in this thread on why a report is 
needed).



It might require some extra build work initially to create these diffs
(based on two SVN revisions).


It will still be rather straightforward with SVN to produce the new 
source package as a diff to be applied to the 3.4.1 sources.



For example, suppose we had to make a
quick release for a security flaw.


In this case, we would probably want to make a full release and use a 
different version number. But again, SVN tags and diff will allow 
everybody to easily see what has changed.


Regards,
  Andrea.


Project website migrated

2012-12-09 Thread Andrea Pescetti

For those not following
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-5603 :
Joe Schaefer (thanks!) migrated our two websites.

I was able to edit a page on
http://www.openoffice.org/
and
http://openoffice.apache.org/
is now a complete site, like
http://openoffice.apache.org/mailing-lists.html

The only thing that still needs to be done is to set up a redirect from
http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/
to
http://openoffice.apache.org/
so that the incubator pages are redirected to the current ones. Compare:
http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/mailing-lists.html
(old content, contains the typo commmits)
and
http://openoffice.apache.org/mailing-lists.html
(new content, typo fixed)

I've removed the notice about pending website migration from the 
December report draft.


Regards,
  Andrea.


Re: Project website migrated

2012-12-09 Thread Andrea Pescetti

Rob Weir wrote:

I've changed the site-wide promotion to be a call for translation volunteers .
Did you want a few days of a FOSDEM Call for Papers as well?


Yes please, maybe one day (just for testing effectiveness) during the 
coming week, say Wednesday 12th December, and then the last days of the 
Call for Papers, 19-23 December or so. Link should point to

https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/FOSDEM+2013+Proposals


I'd like to get the AskOpenOffice promotion in a few days as well.
But I think the translation call has the greater urgency right now.


Sure, this should be our main message for this week: we definitely want 
to recruit translation volunteers now rather than in a couple weeks, 
when the translation deadline will be too close.


Regards,
  Andrea.


Re: NewWikiMainPage

2012-12-09 Thread Andrea Pescetti

tj wrote:

2) Please use a suitable subject, like Labels. Your query has nothing
to do with the wiki main page.


Note that this is due to the fact that
http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Main_Page
contains a notice saying
You're looking for the old wiki main page and miss items not 
transferred to this one? Send us your feedback or transfer missing items 
to this page, where Send us you feedback is a mailto link to this 
list with subject NewWikiMainPage.


Since that notice is probably outdated now, I would replace it with a 
line saying For user support, please use the User Forum, linked to 
http://forum.openoffice.org .


Regards,
  Andrea.


Re: Draft Board report for December

2012-12-10 Thread Andrea Pescetti

On 09/12/2012 Kay Schenk wrote:

On Sat, Dec 8, 2012 at 5:19 AM, Andrea Pescetti  wrote:

I started drafting the Board report for December, due on December 12.
You can find the current draft at
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/2012+Dec

There doesn't seem to be any mention of our participation at ApacheCon
EU or the OpenOffice track


Thanks, that was already briefly mentioned in the previous report, but I 
added a paragraph to the current report too.


Regards,
  Andrea.


Re: not accessible; violation of ADA

2012-12-10 Thread Andrea Pescetti

On 10/12/2012 Rob Weir wrote:

I've forwarded the note to the legal-internal list, the private ASF
legal list, and cc'ed Andrea,
I'd recommend that, as non-lawyers, we do not comment at all on legal
side of this.


Yes, but on the practical side, complaining on a website without telling 
us which one of the dozens possible websites it is (most users, 
unfortunately, tend to believe that all resources linked on 
openoffice.org are official resources of the project) won't help.



for resolving the user's spelling checking issue, then we should try
to help.


Resetting the user profile, as you already suggested, will just work.

Regards,
  Andrea.


Re: Draft Board report for December

2012-12-10 Thread Andrea Pescetti

Keith N. McKenna wrote:

Andrea Pescetti wrote:

You can find the current draft at
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/2012+Dec

Due you mind if I appropriate the wording of your paragraph describing
what OpenOffice is from your draft report for the FAQ's


No problem, go ahead! By the way, the original wording is not mine, I 
used a template.


Coming back to the December report, I'll now submit the current draft to 
the Board.


Regards,
  Andrea.


Re: Fonction pour calc

2012-12-12 Thread Andrea Pescetti

Forwarding the answer to Michel. Andrea

On 12/12/2012 FR web forum wrote:

Bonjour,
Vous devez parler en anglais sur cette liste.
Si ce n'est pas votre langue natale, il existe une liste francophone :
users...@openoffice.apache.org
Pour vous y inscrire : users-fr-subscr...@openoffice.apache.org
Salutations

- Mail original -
De: Michel Piguetmichel.pig...@gmail.com
À: dev@openoffice.apache.org
Envoyé: Mardi 11 Décembre 2012 13:59:44
Objet: Fonction pour calc

Bonjour,
J'aimerai établir des rendements horaires sur la base d'une série de
relevés temporaires.
Il n'est pas possible de diviser une quantité par une différence de temps
sortie de deux dates yc hh:mm:ss.
Pour les transformer en heures décimales, je n'ai pas trouvé cette
possibilité, les formats temps n'étant pas tout à fait des formats textes.

Ma proposition serait de permettre une conversion format date sexagésimal
en format décimal. Ceci pour une période plus courte habituellement sans
remonter au temps Linux, mais sur une période de 370 jours max.
ou de permettre de transformer les valeurs dates jours(), heures(), min(),
sec()  en valeurs décimales.

Merci par avance pour votre engagement

Michel Piguet



Re: Admin mailing list?

2012-12-13 Thread Andrea Pescetti

On 13/12/2012 Kay Schenk wrote:

A separate list JUST for, hopefully, the temporary manual creation of
the wiki accounts *might* be in order. Right now, they don't seem
overwhelming to me.


I agree with Kay here, and since this is a possibly temporary situation 
we'd better revisit it when Jan (thanks!) is done with the upgrade and 
we know what options are available.



  I would NOT use a new wiki-admin list now or in the future for
general web development issues.  The process we have now seems good
and doesn't give rise to cross communication issues. Plus, as some of
the infra folks keep track of THIS list for general web related
issues, I would not recommend another list.


Yes, and there's also the infrastructure@a.o mailing list, and many 
infrastructure topics are relevant to Apache infrastructure and 
dev@openoffice.a.o too, so there's some risk of confusion and 
duplication. I wouldn't see a clear benefit from a new list.


Regards,
  Andrea.


Re: IFERROR

2012-12-14 Thread Andrea Pescetti

Armin Le Grand wrote:

writing on the dev list is a good first step, please also think about
writing a feature request in bugzilla (https://issues.apache.org/ooo/).


It's already there:
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=92677
Note that it is in OpenFormula too, so it's just code waiting to be 
written...


Regards,
  Andrea.


Re: Easy task for a first time committer

2012-12-15 Thread Andrea Pescetti

On 14/12/2012 Pedro Giffuni wrote:

In similar cases we could just open a bugzilla
issue with enough information to reproduce the bug AND the fix


Even though in this case it is clearly too much work for what is in the 
end an extremely trivial fix, I captured your comments in

https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=121486
and marked the issue as easy, to populate our collection of easy tasks 
suitable for first-time committers.


Regards,
  Andrea.


Re: E-mail conference[AT]

2012-12-15 Thread Andrea Pescetti

Albino Biasutti Neto wrote:

de:  conflue...@apache.org
responder a: dev@openoffice.apache.org
para:ooo-comm...@incubator.apache.org
data:15 de dezembro de 2012 16:44


Good catch, Albino. I asked Infra to send notifications to the new 
mailing list address. Follow

https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-5663
to check when the change is done (note: it's confluence, i.e., the 
wiki, not conference as in the subject).


Regards,
  Andrea.


Re: PT-BR for oo.apache.o

2012-12-15 Thread Andrea Pescetti

On 13/12/2012 Albino Biasutti Neto wrote:

I see the need because there is enough information on the official
website and not in others.
Only if you can also add that infos in OO.o/pt-br ?


Yes, I think you can include information about volunteering in
http://www.openoffice.org/pt-br/participe.html
and subpages.

Any committer can create and edit pages there, including you.

You will need to use the Apache CMS. A long explanation is available at
http://www.apache.org/dev/cmsref.html
and the parts you definitely need to read are the ones about the CMS 
Bookmarklet (you will need to use your committer ID and password).


Regards,
  Andrea.


[WEBSITE] Problem with .htm files

2012-12-16 Thread Andrea Pescetti
I had a long discussion with Infra today trying to find out why a change 
I had applied was not appearing. Analyzing it, it turns out that we have 
a problem already visible on over 400 pages and related to .htm files 
(as opposed to .html files).


Reproducing is easy:
1) Edit a .htm file, e.g., do this:
http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/openoffice/ooo-site/trunk/content/pt/about/newsletter.htm?r1=1413471r2=1422592diff_format=h

2) Publish the changes and you get file duplication:

http://www.openoffice.org/pt/about/newsletter.htm
(the existing URL, ending in .htm, not updated)

http://www.openoffice.org/pt/about/newsletter.html
(a new URL, containing the fix)

This silent change of URLs is quite scary and we already have 401 
duplicate pages. For other examples see


http://www.openoffice.org/fr/Documentation/liens.htm
http://www.openoffice.org/fr/Documentation/liens.html

or

http://www.openoffice.org/ui/proposals/Readonly_mode.htm
http://www.openoffice.org/ui/proposals/Readonly_mode.html

Daniel Shahaf, who investigated the problem, suggests that we take a 
look at our path.pm.


Looking at it, I think the place to start investigating is line 14 of
http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/openoffice/ooo-site/trunk/lib/path.pm?revision=1413471view=markup
which seems to actually turn .htm files into .html files, but it's 
probably best that someone familiar with the CMS does the change, since 
I definitely don't want to break the website.


Regards,
  Andrea.


Re: [WEBSITE] Problem with .htm files

2012-12-16 Thread Andrea Pescetti

Dave Fisher wrote:

I think that we can purge these *.htm duplicates, but if we do it
will be a sledgehammer build.


It will also be a problem, unless we accompany it with other changes: 
for example, http://www.openoffice.org/pt/ would completely break, and 
all external sites that now link to some of our .htm files would break too.



It was intentional. Before doing so we would need to make a group
decision about how to treat the two types of files.


Regardless of what templates we apply, the best solution should:
1) Allow a .htaccess redirect/rewrite from .htm to .html (to preserve 
existing internal and external links)
2) Have the SVN file names match the URLs: editing a file named 
news.htm in SVN should not result in a change in a page with URL 
.../news.html. The current handling confuses the CMS too (for example, 
no diff is reported). So either we mass-rename files from .htm to .html 
and rely on 1) above, or we don't change .htm to .html but publish .htm 
URLs.



There are two different procedures from view.pm used:  ...
There are several templates used from templates/.


To me, .htm and .html are not different file types and were never used 
as such: I mean, volunteers historically committed .htm or .html 
according to their habits, but it doesn't make sense to have different 
ways of handling them now. So I would tend to rename all .htm to .html 
and put the .htaccess redirect in place, and have only one type of 
HTML files to handle.


Regards,
  Andrea.


Re: Correction of mailing list addresses on AOO site and other things

2012-12-17 Thread Andrea Pescetti

Gianluca Turconi wrote:

Il 17/12/2012 14.06, RGB ES ha scritto:

Same here with chromium, firefox, konqueror...

It seems they display the warning because the domain is
www.openoffice.org while the certification is for *.apache.org.


This has been discussed in
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-5450

Fact is, did you find any links to the HTTPS site or did you (or a
browser extension for you!) decide to try the HTTPS version? We don't
publicly advertise the HTTPS version and https://ooo-site.apache.org/ is
the recommended URL if someone really wants HTTPS. It shouldn't display
warnings.


BTW, was the documentation mailing list already created? I may have
missed the announcement.


Still in Infra's pipeline... the request was sent but the list has not
been created yet.

Regards,
  Andrea.


Re: [proposal] Add Symphony gradients

2012-12-18 Thread Andrea Pescetti

Armin Le Grand wrote:

http://people.apache.org/~alg/Gradients/gradients.png
I propose to do the same as in Symphony: Add the lower symphony ones
additionally. It's not much space (in the install set ;-)) and offers
much nicer to-go gradients.
What do you think?


The Symphony ones are definitely nicer and more useful. I agree we 
should include them.


Regards,
  Andrea.


Re: Blog post

2012-12-18 Thread Andrea Pescetti

On 18/12/2012 Pedro Giffuni wrote:

Da: Rob Weir
   So it might be worth
encouraging some more rigorous testing here.  In fact, maybe your blog
post can help recruit some volunteers? ...

That is certainly welcome. I hope Andrea is taking notes.


I am! But first: please note that the blog post was entirely written by 
Pedro, I merely helped in posting it to Roller (our blogging 
application). And anyone wishing to access Roller must simply request it 
on this list.


The following changes have now been done on
https://blogs.apache.org/preview/OOo/?previewEntry=random_numbers_in_calc_small

1) Minor fixes suggested by Donald
2) Removed the reference to this being the first implementation from the 
last paragraph.

3) Clarification that we don't aim at crypto-grade quality
4) Call for testing volunteers

Regards,
  Andrea.


Re: PT-BR for oo.apache.o

2012-12-18 Thread Andrea Pescetti

Claudio Filho wrote:

Andrea, here have a good point that i already tried find a reply using
the Apache CMS, without success.
If i have a page oo.o/participe.html and I wish to translate to pt-BR,
i could put in oo.o/pt-br/participe.html. I translate the page and, if
the original page (in english) is updated, i haven't idea how to track
it easily.


With SVN it's not that bad: by a quick inspection of, for example,
http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/openoffice/ooo-site/trunk/content/pt-br/
and
http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/openoffice/ooo-site/trunk/content/
you could find out what changed and whether your translation needs to be 
updated.


You may even write a script that queries SVN and checks if your 
translations need to be updated.



IMHO, we can do like the Debian Project


Usually, with requests like this, the Infrastructure team frowns at the 
word like and firmly tells you that we will need stable, reliable 
tools that should be shared across all projects.


In this specific case, I find that Debian has a definitely nice system, 
but it also enforces consistency in the directory/filenames structure, 
which is something we are very far from obtaining unless we rebuild the 
website from scratch. Considering that, the last time I checked, the 
website was several GBytes in size, even more than the OpenOffice 
sources, recreating it from scratch while preserving the interesting 
parts would take a huge effort.


Regards,
  Andrea.


Re: [PROPOSAL] Licenses and Oracle texts.

2012-12-19 Thread Andrea Pescetti

On 19/12/2012 Pedro Giffuni wrote:

Da: Andrew Rist
As for the 'Oracle Report Builder' ones, does that require more detailed
surgery?   What is the equivalent product now?  Asking a larger audience...

Abandonware. Not sure if Ariel had something in the works to rescue it
as an extension.


By coincidence, there's an ongoing discussion about these extensions on 
the users list:

http://markmail.org/message/fw3ctxboymibu6zh?q=+list:org%2Eapache%2Eincubator%2Eooo-users

Regards,
  Andrea.


Re: Native lang, pootle information needs changes...

2012-12-20 Thread Andrea Pescetti

Kay Schenk wrote:

We have Native Language information on the project web site:
http://openoffice.apache.org/native-lang.htm
which also directs folks to a local Pootle User Guide on the wiki:
http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Pootle_User_Guide ...
Is there someplace else they should be going?


Actually, the page is here
http://openoffice.apache.org/native-lang.html
and it definitely shouldn't point people to the Pootle User Guide but to 
http://openoffice.apache.org/translate.html


Regards,
  Andrea.


Re: [proposal] Adopt palette to Symphony palette partially

2012-12-20 Thread Andrea Pescetti

Armin Le Grand wrote:

the names are not translated. Are color names
translatable...?


Sure; we had the infamous Soylent Green incident, for example:
http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.openoffice.devel.localization/11766


I follow that suggestion: For now, let's use the (extended, see
proposal) Symphony palette, but make a follow-up to find better color
names.


Just don't be too creative with names, since translation volunteers 
won't see the actual colors when translating, but only the names!


Regards,
  Andrea.


Re: Native lang, pootle information needs changes...

2012-12-20 Thread Andrea Pescetti

On 20/12/2012 janI wrote:

http://openoffice.apache.org/translate.html

We should however really change the wording of 6), today it sounds as if we
do not care about reviewing the translations.


If it gives that impression, it must be changed. Note that the review 
we are talking about there is the review of the PO files by someone 
else, not the re-reading by the same translator or the QA that 
translators will be make on the test builds.



We should also add a specific  point about review requirements.


Whatever we add, keep in mind the case of translation teams made by 
one person only. We will still demand quality in that case, but we 
cannot count on peer review.



[Juergen] if all necessary information is available on
http://openoffice.apache.org/translate.html and should change the wiki
to point to this pages. Or we should simply update the wiki which is
easier to maintain and should link to this.


The Tips for translators section can surely be moved to the wiki. It 
doesn't overlap much with the Pootle information there, since it 
describes offline work.



Such info should contain tips and tricks what to do and what not, for
example never change id's or hid's or hrefs. Today it took me 2 hours to
fix many of these mistakes in a new prepared sdf file. The errors are in
the po files and we should try to minimize such problems.


These are definitely Tips for translators, so let's just move the 
section to the wiki and complete it (actually, point 4 already gives 
some information on this).


Regards,
  Andrea.


[WEBSITE] Holiday logo version

2012-12-21 Thread Andrea Pescetti

Forwarding here a discussion from ooo-marketing.

Alexandro said it would be nice to have a themed variant of the logo 
online for the next two weeks, as we have historically done over the 
years, and he provided a holiday version of the old logo temporarily 
available at http://imagebin.org/240155


Would it be possible to have a similarly tweaked version of
http://www.openoffice.org/images/AOO_logos/OOo_Website_v2_copy.png
to temporarily replace the one on the website?

Regards,
  Andrea.


Re: [WEBSITE] Holiday logo version

2012-12-21 Thread Andrea Pescetti

Michael Acevedo wrote:

I've attached my candidates to this email. Let me know if you can see them.


Thanks! Unfortunately, they didn't reach the list so nobody could see 
them. It's better to upload them to http://imagebin.org/ or somewhere.



Logo #1 puts a santa hat on the orb and tweaks the colors of the word
OpenOffice to the typical red and green of the season.
Logo #2 makes the orb a decorated ball. The coloring of the word
OpenOffice remains the same...


Reading the descriptions, the solutions seem quite creative! But with 
the logo we must be careful, meaning: adding themed elements to the logo 
is OK, while replacing the orb or the colors should probably be avoided, 
to make sure visitors are not confused (this logo will be seen 800K 
times a day, and there are enough OpenOffice ripoff sites around for 
visitors to be quite paranoid).


So I'd rather put online a version that adds elements instead of 
altering the current orb/colors... but out of personal curiosity I'd 
also be happy to see #1 and #2 above too!


Regards,
  Andrea.


Re: [RELEASE] Respin snapshot builds for early verification available

2012-12-22 Thread Andrea Pescetti

On 21/12/2012 janI wrote:

On 21 December 2012 23:35, Andrea Pescetti wrote:

http://people.apache.org/~jsc/respin_aoo341/

Access forbidden when clicking on files: this must be fixed ...

when running chmod then may also remove incubating part of the name :-)


It was agreed to keep the incubator branding for additional languages 
too: having it for some languages only would break the assumptions we 
make in some scripts. 4.0 (or 3.4.2 if needed for some reasons) will be 
our first non-incubator release.



Shall we then change the Please help with translation announcement on
the relevant home pages into something like

-1 For danish I would prefer not. We announced several month ago that a
release was close...


OK, then I'd consider it for the other languages, which still have the 
original announcement.



And I also understood from the very detailed license discussions, that we
are not allowed to publicly announce dev-builds...but maybe this is a
special case (as I have been trying to push for a long time).


We don't LINK to unreleased builds, but of course they are not secret. 
So something like the text I proposed (i.e., inviting the visitor to 
volunteer in testing them and linking to the l10n mailing list, not to 
the builds) is perfectly acceptable.


Regards,
  Andrea.


Wiki down (mwiki)

2012-12-23 Thread Andrea Pescetti

I assume this is redundant since it already appears at
http://status.apache.org/
but the OpenOffice wiki (the mwiki) has been down for about 7 hours.

Are the correct people (probably: imacat, Raphael, Ian) already 
receiving the Nagios notifications from status.apache.org? Otherwise we 
might want to have it changed if this is more efficient for you.


Regards,
  Andrea.


Re: Announce

2012-12-23 Thread Andrea Pescetti

On 23/12/2012 RogAdele wrote:

CAN NOT THESE TWO FACTIONS SETTLE AND COME TOGETHER AS ONE HUGE THREAT
TO OFFICE?


Well, I've nothing to add to what I've already written on this: the 
Apache OpenOffice side did show willingness to cooperate. But 
cooperation needs willingness on both sides.


You can find my previous answer, with concrete examples, at
http://markmail.org/message/d74xlykxs7qz6u2t

Regards,
  Andrea.


Re: Link to Contact Us is broken on openoffice.apache.org

2012-12-24 Thread Andrea Pescetti

Larry Gusaas wrote:

On 2012-12-24 2:03 AM Alexandro Colorado wrote:

On Mon, Dec 24, 2012 at 12:35 AM, SmallVillage Astrologer 
color...@gmail.com wrote:

openoffice.apache.org. The link to Contact Us which located in website
footer is broken, error 404 is given everytime.

Can you please confirm you are not able to access this page?
http://www.openoffice.org/contact_us.html

The OP said the link on http://openoffice.apache.org/ is broken.


Thanks, fixed.

The footer of http://openoffice.apache.org/ and all related pages now 
has the correct link.


Regards,
  Andrea.


Re: Apache Buildbot and analysis.

2012-12-24 Thread Andrea Pescetti

janI wrote:

I understood we use the apache build servers ?
I cannot find our build in Sonar:
https://analysis.apache.org/
Have I misunderstood something, or do we miss a connection to sonar ?


I don't know Sonar and in general the Apache build system outside 
OpenOffice, but you can find everything from the OpenOffice buildbots at

http://ci.apache.org/projects/openoffice/

Regards,
  Andrea.


Re: Apache OpenOffice at FOSDEM 2013

2012-12-27 Thread Andrea Pescetti

Rony G. Flatscher (Apache) wrote:

https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/FOSDEM+2013+Proposals

Is the program of the AOO presentations set already?


Speakers have already been notified of acceptance/rejection.

But the detailed schedule is not ready yet, it will take some more days.


What about the following idea: if the number of presentations and presenters 
allow for, why not
repeat the presentations in the afternoon?


The idea is not bad, but we won't be able to implement it unless we are 
given (I'm joking!) a second day... Keynotes, lunch break and the need 
to start not too early already limit quite a bit our schedule. That 
said, we have a stand/booth for two full days, so this might be an 
occasion for some quick demos.


Regards,
  Andrea.


Re: 30 million downloads, year end blog post

2012-12-28 Thread Andrea Pescetti

Kay Schenk wrote:

I think it would be great to blog about
some of the community improvements -- new committers, new orientation
modules, revamping of documentation project, rebirth of L10,
improvements in bug tracking, QA, marketing campaign, etc.


Yes, especially L10N is growing impressively: volunteers have contacted 
us to translate OpenOffice in 28 additional languages; of course, only a 
handful of teams will be able to finish in time for next week's 
deadline, while the others will focus on the 4.0 translation. For the 
current status, see

https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+3.4.1+Respin+for+additional+languages

About including FOSDEM: I think it will be enough to mention the first 
two events in 2013 (FOSDEM and ApacheCon NA); we will probably write 
separate blog posts for more details about each event.


The Mwiki upgrade is probably worth a mention too.

And a donations link to 
http://www.apache.org/foundation/contributing.html would be appropriate 
too...


Regards,
  Andrea.


Re: info: Additional Licensing requirements if any for use of Open Office for Professional Work in Companies

2012-12-29 Thread Andrea Pescetti

anand.vasappanavara wrote:

Greetings from Tata Motors! We are happy to note your foundation's
work in developing open office tools for the world. We have been
using your tools for my academic  personal activities from some time
now.   would like to suggest their introduction for its use for
professional work in our company.


Thanks for your appreciation! I'm removing the security list from the 
recipients, since it is a confidential channel related to security 
incidents only.



We would hence like to know the answers to the following question to
acess the feasibility


Sure. Just remember that my statements here, as virtually all 
communication on our mailing lists, do not constitute legal advice or 
official answers. For that, you should read, e.g., the full license text 
at http://www.apache.org/licenses/LICENSE-2.0.html or the source code.



1.  What are the additional licensing, permissions requirements to be
factored if any


None (of course, I recommend that you read the license).


2.  Can the employees use Open Office tools freely to
perform their commercial work


Yes, definitely. The Apache License is permissive and business-friendly, 
and it gives maximum freedom to the user.



3.  Is there any risk of office data
leaking via the internet while using the Open tools


No. Services that connect to the Internet (such as the update 
notification service) do not disclose personal private data or documents 
data.



 4. Are there any
organizations where open office is ready used for professional work


Yes, so many that we actually have trouble in keeping the list 
up-to-date... Anyway you can find an outdated list at

http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Major_OpenOffice.org_Deployments


5.  Are there any annual maintenance or up-gradation services which
can be offered


Sure, but not from this project directly. We do maintain a list of 
consultants at http://www.openoffice.org/bizdev/consultants.html but for 
corporate-grade support you might also be contacted by companies that 
employ full-time OpenOffice developers. Employees from these companies 
already read our mailing lists.


You can also support the project by sponsoring development, or 
contributing developers or translators or other resources for QA or 
marketing... Feel free to write again (the dev list is enough) if you 
would like to know more about this.


Regards,
  Andrea.


Re: old business...old OpenOffice domain names registered by Oracle (primarily)

2012-12-30 Thread Andrea Pescetti

On 02/11/2012 Andrea Pescetti wrote:

Actually these domains are still there: I tested 5 random ones from
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-4906 and as Dave wrote they
appear to have been (auto)renewed. They do not resolve, but WHOIS shows
that they still exist and still belong to Oracle.
Which means that https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-4906 can
progress normally with the transfer of ownership of those domains to the
ASF. I asked on the issue page details on the next steps.


I've seen no developments on this old issue. This is something that the 
project can only marginally control, since it requires a handover of the 
domain names from Oracle to r...@apache.org ; did the discussion between 
Oracle and root even start? Refer to the issue page (link above) for 
more information.


Regards,
  Andrea.


Re: [RELEASE] Respin snapshot builds for early verification available

2012-12-30 Thread Andrea Pescetti

Jeongkyu Kim wrote:

Fortunately, Korean translation was completed in time. Would you let me
know how can I submit the po files?


To follow the standard procedure, you should attach the zipped PO files 
to this issue I've just created:

https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=121559
(you will need to register an account for Bugzilla).

If the ZIP file is too big to be attached, specify just a link there or 
send the file to me in private and I'll update the issue. Please specify 
the names of all volunteers involved so that we can give them proper credit.



Actually, I sent you email several days
ago with the zipped po files as attachment, but it looks like being lost
somewhere. :-)


Then it's already in good hands... it's just holiday time in Europe (and 
elsewhere). But the procedure above is what we recommend, see

http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+3.4.1+Respin+for+additional+languages

If you have any further doubts or comments, just ask on the l10n list.

Regards,
  Andrea.


Re: [EXT] Dictionary extension for a Latin transcription of Persian

2013-01-01 Thread Andrea Pescetti

On 31/12/2012 Hamid Farroukh wrote:

I have made a dictionray extension for the transcription of Persian
with Latin alphabet. That means, I have a way of writting Persian as
I would write English or German. This should help joung Persians
living in the US and Europe to learn Persian and write Persian texts.


Hi, is this version of Persian something that you personally conceived 
or something more standardized, perhaps one of the Persian 
transliterations listed at

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persian_language#Latin_alphabet ?

If it has a name and it is a somewhat standard transliteration, we can 
definitely include it in OpenOffice 4, expected in April or around.



1- Is it possible to use a custom dictionary for Persian as a
western language? Users should see an entry in the language
selection indicating Persian.


Adding another language is feasible. We prefer to add languages that 
have an ISO code or some form of standardization. It wouldn't be called 
Persian to avoid name clash, but something like Persian (Latin) or 
Persian (Fingilish) (if that's the name) could be feasible. Note that 
here I'm just referring to add a language name, i.e., just one 
additional option in the list where you can select if your text is in 
English, or German, or French and so on.



2- If not, may I publish it to the
extension page for others to use? Users should know that they can use
this dictionary, when they chhose Esperanto as language. Or would I
viloate some policies?


We don't have a strict policy on this (I mean: we surely won't delete 
the extension from extensions.openoffice.org, even though we would 
require that the problem and the workaround are properly explained), but 
it would be much clearer to just add the language to OpenOffice, to 
avoid conflicts and misunderstandings. Just tell us more about this 
variant of Persian and we'll see how to handle that.


Regards,
  Andrea.


Re: [discussion] Buildbot standard a.o or our own.

2013-01-01 Thread Andrea Pescetti

janI wrote:

I might be wrong but do we e.g.
- get automatic mail when a build fails ?
- have a statistic over our build through time ?


Notifications are sent to openoffice-commits, see for example

http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/openoffice-commits/201301.mbox/%3c20130101075333.41945c0...@aegis.apache.org%3E

I don't know if we have a handy way to see the build history and not 
just the latest build status displayed at

http://ci.apache.org/projects/openoffice/


I think the job being done today is great, and was in my own (obviously not
too elegant) way just trying to see if we could improve.


I didn't see anything inappropriate in the requests and reactions about 
the buildbot so far... it's normal to ask, it's normal to expect easy 
fixes, and it's normal that more challenging changes are accepted or 
denied based on discussion with people who are doing that work.


Regards,
  Andrea.


Re: old business...old OpenOffice domain names registered by Oracle (primarily)

2013-01-02 Thread Andrea Pescetti

On 31/12/2012 Andrew Rist wrote:

https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-4906

You'll notice the issue is from me. at the time I created the JIRA I had
all of the domains released for transfer. I'm not sure if they are still
in that state (probably not), but if someone wants to get this going
again, I will make sure to cover whatever actions need to happen on the
Oracle side.


Perfect, then it seems that r...@apache.org is only waiting for an 
e-mail from you to make it happen... hoping that domains can still be 
transferred.


Regards,
  Andrea.


Re: [EXT] Dictionary extension for a Latin transcription of Persian

2013-01-02 Thread Andrea Pescetti

On 01/01/2013 Hamid Farroukh wrote:

There
is no official standard transliteration. All we have, are more or
less standard proposals. The standard, I use (invented),
is called Alefbâye 2om, which means 2nd alphabet. Soon I will
publish materials about it in English


Understood. Well, in general to add support for a language we need a 
reference to an ISO code or standard, since OpenOffice has big 
interoperability requirements, which would break if we decide 
unilaterally that we will support a new language.



As far as I know, this is the only proposal for which there exists a
spell check dictionary.


This could help in getting some official recognition for the language, 
perhaps. Or the spec Rob shared might be of help. Honestly I don't know 
how hard it is to have your transliteration standardized; it might 
also turn out to be easier than expected, but this is not something we 
can help you with. Surely, once you reach some official status, you 
can contact us again and we can support the language directly in 
OpenOffice, with no need for workarounds like the one that you are 
currently using (i.e., squatting Esperanto) and that seems to be the 
best solution at the moment.


Regards,
  Andrea.


Volunteers for a FOSDEM Hacking OpenOffice tutorial session?

2013-01-02 Thread Andrea Pescetti
The FOSDEM schedule is shaping quite nicely, with a wide assortment of 
presentations on the main development areas of OpenOffice.


But we could still squeeze in, if we have a developer willing to take 
care of it, a tutorial on how a newcomer can get involved in coding for 
OpenOffice. Taking for granted that a developer willing to build 
OpenOffice can manage with the instructions on the wiki, this tutorial 
would give practical advice on the tools (IDE, debugger... free and open 
source preferred, but if you find other solutions more effective be 
honest!), a rough overview of the code (main directories under main; 
basic coding standards) and ideally a few easy challenges or nice to 
have enhancements with an entry point to the code (example: we would 
like to complete our OpenFormula support; function XYZ is missing; to 
see how it can be implemented, look at file abc.cxx).


So it would not be a presentation, but a tutorial answering the question 
How I can I help developing OpenOffice?. Materials could then be 
recycled for the Orientation pages and so on. It needn't be long, 
something basic that fits in a 45-minute slot would already be enough, 
we have a booth and plenty of time for follow-up if needed.


Now... Would this be worth pursuing? And, most important, do we have a 
volunteer willing to give this tutorial on February 2 at FOSDEM in 
Brussels? Even if it is a special presentation we would host it in our 
devroom schedule.


Regards,
  Andrea.


Re: We Need One - Fwd: DOAP

2013-01-03 Thread Andrea Pescetti

Dave Fisher wrote:

We need to fill out a project DOAP file in order to be listed on
www.apache.org on the bottom left.


Thanks, this was already reported by khirano while the migration was not
completed yet, so it was in the list of pending changes at
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Graduation+Infrastructure+Changes
...
Well, now it isn't pending any longer!

OpenOffice will soon be displayed at http://www.apache.org/ (bottom 
left); or at least, we now have a valid DOAP file at 
http://openoffice.apache.org/doap_openoffice.rdf


Regards,
  Andrea.


Re: Development

2013-01-03 Thread Andrea Pescetti
Forwarding Herbert's answer (below) to Jonathan, who is not subscribed 
to this mailing list. Andrea.


Herbert Duerr wrote:

Hi Jonathan,

On 03.01.2013 17:19, Jonathan wrote:

Hi, I am a coder in objective c and c and c++ and would like to
contribute to making the OpenOffice suite support iOS, please reply soon.


It looks like you'd like dive right into the source!
http://openoffice.apache.org/source.html is a good start for that and
especially the directory main/vcl/aqua/ might interest you as it
contains the stuff for OSX support which might be a good start also for
iOS support.

Herbert




Re: Volunteers for a FOSDEM Hacking OpenOffice tutorial session?

2013-01-03 Thread Andrea Pescetti

On 03/01/2013 Albino Biasutti Neto wrote:

On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 8:34 PM, Andrea Pescetti wrote:

Now... Would this be worth pursuing?

Yeah !
I see this good events as an marketing for AOO.


Me too, but we would need a volunteer in the next 24 hours, since we 
must then finalize the FOSDEM schedule and this tutorial would be added 
as a special talk to our devroom schedule.


Regards,
  Andrea.


Fwd: CHIP Award Top Download 2012

2013-01-04 Thread Andrea Pescetti
Good news: Apache OpenOffice was in the Top 100 downloads of CHIP online 
for 2012 (it was in the top 10 too, of course).


See the message below for more information and links, suitable for a 
news item on our website. The logo they attached, in case it is useful 
for our website, is temporarily hosted at

http://people.apache.org/~pescetti/tmp/top-download-logo-red.eps

By the way, we are talking about 4 million downloads that should be 
added to the 30 millions count, since CHIP apparently uses its own 
download servers.


Regards,
  Andrea.

- Forwarded Message -
*From:* Hayon Dominik
*To:* pr...@apache.org pr...@apache.org
*Sent:* Wednesday, 2 January 2013, 8:57
*Subject:* CHIP Award Top Download 2012

Dear Software Publisher,

we are pleased to inform you that your software OpenOffice has made
it among the most popular downloads of the year at CHIP Online.

You’ll find your app in our Top 100 photo gallery:

http://www.chip.de/artikel/Die-beliebtesten-Downloads-des-Jahres_12836691.html

We have also attached our CHIP Top-Download logo, which you can
proudly place on your website.

Kind regards and a successful 2013,

Your CHIP Online-Team
http://www.chip.de http://www.chip.de/




Re: project Volunteer

2013-01-06 Thread Andrea Pescetti
Forwarding Regina's answer (below) to Tseng who is not subscribed. 
Tseng: see http://openoffice.apache.org/mailing-lists.html for more 
information about our mailing lists. Andrea


Regina Henschel wrote:

Hi Tseng,

welcome to our project.

tseng chan schrieb:

Hello All,
My name is Tseng, from southern California, interested in joining the
opensource community to gain some experience. My interest lies in
C++/Python.


Then you will be interest in core development? That's fine. To get
started you first need your own build. If you not have done it already,
then you should start with reading the guides on the Wiki.
http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/Building_Guide_AOO

If you want to work with git, that is possible, but need some further
steps.

Please ask whenever something do not work for you. Especially building
on Windows with a MSVC Express might be a little bit tricky. What OS do
you use?

If you have got your own build, you should say, which area you are
interested in, Calc, Draw, Writer, Help or whatever.

Kind regards
Regina




Board report for January

2013-01-06 Thread Andrea Pescetti

The draft Board report for January is ready at
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/2013+Jan

Please review it (wiki or mailing list, as you prefer). It's due in a 
few days.


The next Board report will be in April; this is the last monthly report 
we are supposed to prepare, then we will enter the standard 3-month 
reporting period for top-level projects.


Regards,
  Andrea.


Re: Translate ?

2013-01-07 Thread Andrea Pescetti

On 06/01/2013 David King wrote:

I archived files written in Open Office 3.4 and when I go to retrieve
them, they are in another language that looks like an oriental
language.  What can I do to read these files?  I'm not much computer
savvy.  Thank you.  Dave66


Hi, this could be due to a corrupted file or a failing import filter, 
but it's hard to diagnose this without seeing the files. The most 
user-friendly channel we have available for this is the official forum: 
register at http://forum.openoffice.org/ and then open a new topic 
there, attaching your document and possibly a screenshot of how you see it.


Regards,
  Andrea.


Re: [RELEASE]: AOO 3.4.1 respin

2013-01-07 Thread Andrea Pescetti

Rob Weir wrote:

On Mon, Jan 7, 2013 at 5:32 AM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:

I plan now with the following 8 languages for our upcoming AOO 3.4 1 respin:
Danish (da), Swedish (sv), Norwegian Bokmal (nb), Polish (pl), Korean
(ko), Asturian (ast), Basque (eu), Scottish Gaelic (gd)
Please correct me if I should have missed something!


Turkish should be really close. Turkish volunteers: if you have the UI 
translation complete, please let us know immediately.



There is a big list of OpenOffice-compatible
dictionaries listed here:
http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Dictionaries


This one is better:
http://extensions.openoffice.org/dictionary
Actually, if you open the former link, it will send you to the latter, 
since we now only include dictionaries packaged as extensions.


Regards,
  Andrea.


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