Download Pages for 4.1.4?

Hi - I’m seeing that the banner on www.openoffice.org has the 4.1.4 release announced on the release, but the download pages are yet to be changed. Is the change in progress? Regards, Dave signature.asc Description: Message signed with OpenPGP

Re: [VOTE][RESULT] Release Apache OpenOffice 4.1.4-RC5 as GA

> On Oct 18, 2017, at 4:45 PM, Pedro Lino wrote: > > > >> Maybe we need to ask for review of >> http://www.apache.org/legal/release-policy.html#release-approval at the same >> time as looking at the voting process documentation. If taken literally, a >> PMC member

Re: [VOTE][RESULT] Release Apache OpenOffice 4.1.4-RC5 as GA

> On Oct 18, 2017, at 3:12 PM, Patricia Shanahan wrote: > > On 10/18/2017 12:28 PM, Pedro Lino wrote: >> On 18/10/2017 19:02, Andrea Pescetti wrote: >>> This is OK as long as the Apache Policy doesn't get in the way too much... >>> I mean, I highly appreciate when people provide

Re: [VOTE][RESULT] Release Apache OpenOffice 4.1.4-RC5 as GA

Hi Pedro, > On Oct 18, 2017, at 1:35 PM, Pedro Lino wrote: > > Hi Dave, all > >> (1) PMC members have a higher bar for their vote. I did not vote at all >> because I did not build from source etc. > > I agree that it is good that some users replicate the building

Re: [VOTE][RESULT] Release Apache OpenOffice 4.1.4-RC5 as GA

Hi Pedro, > On Oct 18, 2017, at 12:28 PM, Pedro Lino wrote: > > On 18/10/2017 19:02, Andrea Pescetti wrote: > >> This is OK as long as the Apache Policy doesn't get in the way too much... I >> mean, I highly appreciate when people provide a list of what they did to >>

Re: New macOS builds available (Was: Re: [VOTE] Release Apache OpenOffice 4.1.4-RC5 as GA)

Hi Jim, I’ve downloaded the new binary and the problem is no longer present. THANK YOU! Regards, Dave > On Oct 17, 2017, at 8:35 AM, Jim Jagielski wrote: > > New macOS builds for AOO 4.1.4-RC5 are now available. Previous > builds had linking issues which manifested

Re: AOO 4.1.4 – Error message

Did you open an existing file? > On Oct 16, 2017, at 2:27 PM, Jim Jagielski wrote: > > FWIW, I just installed 10.13 / High Sierra on a test machine. AOO 4.1.4-RC5 > opened up just fine. Because it was a virgin install, I had to go thru the > "setup" phase. After that

Re: AOO 4.1.4 – Error message

t; avmedia component using any SDK older than 10.12. plus, we > cannot build with anything older than a 10.9 SDK due to > C++ compatibility changes. > > Basically, the macOS port is gonna require a bit of > TLC. I am willing to put some time into making the process smooth. >

Re: AOO 4.1.4 – Error message

a Mac developer to rebuild with the > source code for RC5 but the process and libraries from RC4, and/or the other > way round? That will tell us whether the problem is a source code change or a > build process change. > > > > On 10/16/2017 11:33 AM, Dave Fisher wrote: &g

Re: AOO 4.1.4 – Error message

> On Oct 16, 2017, at 11:09 AM, Dave Fisher <dave2w...@comcast.net> wrote: > > Hi Jim, > > I am on macOS Sierra and do not see the issues in RC4. > > With RC4 - Sorry a typo - with RC5 I see: > > (1) I get the little general error dialog. > (2) I don’t se

Re: AOO 4.1.4 – Error message

Hi Jim, I am on macOS Sierra and do not see the issues in RC4. With RC4 - (1) I get the little general error dialog. (2) I don’t see any terminal output after starting from Terminal. (3) While the error is up the lock file .~lock.# has been created with a length of 129 David

Re: Resigning as RM for 4.1.x

Hi Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 10, 2017, at 2:23 PM, Marcus <marcus.m...@wtnet.de> wrote: > >> Am 10.10.2017 um 22:56 schrieb Dave Fisher: >> Hi - >> Sent from my iPhone >>> On Oct 10, 2017, at 1:15 PM, Marcus <marcus.m...@wtnet.de> wrote: >>

Re: Resigning as RM for 4.1.x

Hi - Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 10, 2017, at 1:15 PM, Marcus wrote: > > Am 10.10.2017 um 22:03 schrieb Jim Jagielski: >>> On Oct 10, 2017, at 3:19 PM, Andrea Pescetti wrote: >>> >>> Now the question is, is it OK for us to go ahead, release 4.1.4

Re: 4.5.0? (Was: Re: AOO 4.2.0 and macOS)

Hi - It is worth letting the idea “percolate” while 4.1.4 release proceeds to completion. I like Jm’s thought. Announcing plans while announcing a release and then executing on it would be the the best AOO marketing possible. We proceed with whoever helps methodically. My 2cts. Regards,

Re: Release Apache OpenOffice 4.1.4-RC4 crashes on Mac

Hi Roberto, > On Oct 3, 2017, at 12:25 PM, Roberto Galoppini <roberto.galopp...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > 2017-10-03 21:06 GMT+02:00 Dave Fisher <dave2w...@comcast.net>: > >> Hi - >> >> On System Preferences / Security & Preferences what is your

Re: Release Apache OpenOffice 4.1.4-RC4 crashes on Mac

Roberto Galoppini <roberto.galopp...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > 2017-10-03 19:47 GMT+02:00 Dave Fisher <dave2w...@comcast.net>: > >> Hi - >> >> I am on MacOS 10.12.6 (16G29) >> >> I had to control click and then open. It worked for me but then I ha

Re: Release Apache OpenOffice 4.1.4-RC4 crashes on Mac

Hi - I am on MacOS 10.12.6 (16G29) I had to control click and then open. It worked for me but then I had a prior setup. I renamed my prior setup and opened again correctly with user name registration. What do you have in /Users//Library/Application Support/OpenOffice/4/user? Regards, Dave

Re: [Discussion] Switch to Git?

We must not block 4.1.4. We must release soon. Regards, Dave Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 14, 2017, at 7:36 PM, Damjan Jovanovic wrote: > > The process is, we vote, then get Infra to switch us. > > Many big and small Apache projects have switched to Git, eg. Apache

Re: [Discussion] Switch to Git?

> On Sep 14, 2017, at 11:16 AM, Marcus wrote: > > Even when I'm not a real developer, please let me add some points: > > IMHO we could switch when > > - ASF Infra can and will support it > - the CMS (it manages the webpages) is supporting Git > - the big majority of us

Re: [Discussion] Switch to Git?

Hi - Here is a difference between Git and SVN that could be important. In GIT you check out the whole repository. In SVN you can check out parts. Another would be does SVN vs. GIT prevent new developers from volunteering? Historical note - when OpenOffice came to Apache it had just been moved

Fwd: FOSDEM Apache Developer Room ?

Hi - Is there any interest in OpenOffice participating with an Apache Developer Room at the 2018 FOSDEM? If so we should let Sharan know at d...@community.apache.org Regards, Dave > Begin forwarded message: > > From: "Sharan Foga" > Subject: FOSDEM Apache Developer Room ?

Re: setting up ssh access

Hi Peter, Certainly outdated. Look on OpenOffice.apache.org Regards, Dave Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 30, 2017, at 12:21 AM, Peter Kovacs wrote: > > Hi all, > > > I try to setup ssh access. > > > I found this side in our wiki, which sounds quite out dated: > >

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Availability of AOO-4.1.4 RC2

Thanks Jim! > On Aug 14, 2017, at 8:19 AM, Jim Jagielski wrote: > > Available for immediate testing are the source tarball and > community builds of Apache OpenOffice 4.1.4-RC2. > > As noted, these are Release Candidates and are not official, > GA releases, although based on

Re: Windows 10 won't install Open Office

Hi - I think that there is a wishlist item for our various installers. Self checking that the package is fully downloaded. As others have pointed out checking an MD5 or other hash is beyond most people’s skills while a simple script could more easily accomplish the task. We put the binaries

Re: Community in Mexico City

Hi imacat, It’s been awhile. I hope you are well. For Apache wide community questions try this mailing list - d...@community.apache.org Regards, Dave > On Jun 21, 2017, at 8:09 PM, imacat wrote: > > Dear all, > >I'll travel to Mexico from Taiwan on 7/1-10,

Re: Apache licence vs cc-by-sa

Hi Guy, I see that you found that the Apache License 2.0 is very permissive. If use of your images in Apache projects like OpenOffice are desired then you may want to see https://www.apache.org/legal/resolved.html to understand how various other Open Source licenses may or may not be used

Fwd: Problem with Open Office before and after installing new update

For what it's worth Sent from my iPhone Begin forwarded message: > From: Hugo Costa > Date: May 21, 2017 at 1:36:19 PM EDT > To: "us...@openoffice.apache.org" > Cc: Rory O'Farrell , Martin Groenescheij >

Re: Bugzilla

Sent from my iPhone > On May 21, 2017, at 10:34 AM, Jörg Schmidt <joe...@j-m-schmidt.de> wrote: > > >> From: Dave Fisher [mailto:dave2w...@comcast.net] > >> Here are some of mine. I am sure others differ. >> >> (1) investigate and fix security h

Re: Bugzilla

Sent from my iPhone > On May 21, 2017, at 10:44 AM, Jörg Schmidt <joe...@j-m-schmidt.de> wrote: > > >> From: Dave Fisher [mailto:dave2w...@comcast.net] > >> Meh had some misstatements of fact, > > And why are we silent about this? The misstatements ar

Re: Bugzilla

017, at 10:07 AM, Jörg Schmidt <joe...@j-m-schmidt.de> wrote: > > >> From: Dave Fisher [mailto:dave2w...@comcast.net] > >> Reread what Simon wrote. Key phrase is those who work on both. >> >> Also IBM as a company left the project 2.5 years ago and Rob >

Re: Bugzilla

Hi Jörg, Reread what Simon wrote. Key phrase is those who work on both. Also IBM as a company left the project 2.5 years ago and Rob left a year ago. In this case it is not helpful to reopen these hurts and past issues. Regards, Dave Sent from my iPhone > On May 21, 2017, at 9:11 AM, Jörg

Re: Bugzilla

Hi Jörg, To think positively what should be the project's development goals? I think if we are going to attract developers and companies we need an agenda or rough roadmap. Here are some of mine. I am sure others differ. (1) investigate and fix security holes. (2) frequent releases. (3) near

Re: Bugzilla

Hi - Sent from my iPhone > On May 20, 2017, at 4:43 PM, Raphael Bircher wrote: > > Hi Patricia > > Am .05.2017, 22:04 Uhr, schrieb Patricia Shanahan : > >> On 5/20/2017 9:07 AM, Raphael Bircher wrote: >>> Hi all >>> >>> Am .05.2017, 16:32 Uhr, schrieb

Re: https live for extensions/templates.openoffice.org

Hi Dave, Thank you! Regards, Dave Sent from my iPhone > On May 17, 2017, at 6:16 PM, Dave Brondsema wrote: > > We at SourceForge have enabled https hosting for the extensions.openoffice.org > and templates.openoffice.org sites now. I have set up a redirects (302) to >

Re: Insert Document

Hi Giuseppe, The ODFToolkit is a separate project. I've replied including off-...@incubator.apache.org Your attachment will not be included. Depending on any response that project has issue tracking in JIRA. Regards, Dave Sent from my iPhone > On May 17, 2017, at 4:51 AM, Giuseppe Miniello

Re: Apache OpenOffice NG

Hi - continuing the top posting. I think what Raphael is referring to is if the project should follow a pattern similar to Apache Subversion where only source code and no binary packages are provided. If you look at https://subversion.apache.org/packages.html you will see what is meant. I am

Re: Templates and Extensions

Hi Dave, > On Mar 20, 2017, at 7:42 PM, Dave Brondsema <d...@brondsema.net> wrote: > > On 3/20/17 1:46 PM, Dave Fisher wrote: >> Hi - >> >> SourceForge has been very helpful to the OpenOffice community. But with the >> issues seen in the other thread

Re: Package name for new UNO components?

Hi Damjan, If this an official part of AOO then why not org.apache.openoffice.uno.*? Regards, Dave > On Mar 20, 2017, at 10:41 AM, Mechtilde wrote: > > Hello, > > do you know the existing one? > > Regards > > Mechtilde > > > Am 20.03.2017 um 16:40 schrieb Damjan

Templates and Extensions

Hi - SourceForge has been very helpful to the OpenOffice community. But with the issues seen in the other thread it may be time to explore what it would take to find an alternative way to host the OpenOffice extensions and templates sites. We need to have quick support and there is risk to the

Re: Possible broken link: Checksums

Mr Ellis or Carrington, This last reply is still not to the point and now we have an email that has a different signature from the email address. Apache OpenOffice is both a large codebase and entirely run by volunteers. Additionally there are large amounts of documentation and support forums.

Re: Community building: give our User a chance to contribute!

You do well > to be prepared. > > I hope all are at least courious and support this with their hopes and fears. > It would be so powerfull if we can make this work. > > > Stay agile, keep Chalanging > > Peter > >> On 20.01.2017 22:56, Dave Fisher wrote: &

Re: Community building: give our User a chance to contribute!

Hi - Read to the bottom. Don't mistake my opposition to the following statement as opposition to a way forward to funding of a third party. > and one more note: > Our PMC is a PMC of an Apache project and it must be loyal to the ASF and the > OpenOffice project. > If, however, there are single

Re: Community building: give our User a chance to contribute!

A third party like a Team OpenOffice under a name that avoids users confusion with Apache OpenOffice could raise money and fund development as a separate, independent entity. That's what IBM did. The entity just needs to be careful about guaranteeing the work will be taken by Apache OpenOffice.

Re: future of OpenOffice

Writing a list of the top 100 defects that are easy and YOU would like fixed IS the Apache Way. You can suggest and help. What is not the Apache Way is to force others. All the best! Regards, Dave Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 13, 2017, at 7:09 PM, toki wrote: > >>

Re: future of OpenOffice

Hi - If support for Microsoft Office formats is desired and Java is not a problem then Apache has a 15 year old project called Apache POI. Also, Apache ODFToolkit is sitting in the Incubator for 5.5 years now with one developer - Svante. Conversion between ODF and OOXML is the only way to

Re: Copyleft vs Permissive

Hi - If Oracle or IBM thought they had any additional advantage with Apache OpenOffice development then the history of this project would differ. Regards, Dave Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 13, 2017, at 3:55 PM, Peter Kovacs wrote: > > > >> On 12.01.2017 11:00, Pedro

Re: future of OpenOffice

Please correct the specific non Apache licenses if I get them wrong. As far as I know the sequence of events is: Oracle buys Sun including OpenOffice (closed license) and the open source OpenOffice.org (GPL2). TheDocumentFoundation forms and forks OpenOffice.org as LibreOffice under GPL2

Re: Bugzilla scanned by robots for Spam adress

This is from pre-Apache days and an older version of bugzilla. I think closing it makes sense. Regards, Dave Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 17, 2016, at 5:24 PM, Peter Kovacs wrote: > > see Bug: https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=62733 > > Is this still an issue? >

Re: Request for Nofollow or Removal of Links to My Site at Openoffice

Hi - Someone of the DEV team may have access to templates and extensions sites which are hosted at sourceforge by agreement with the Apache OpenOffice PMC. Can someone help? Regards, Dave Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 24, 2016, at 5:34 AM, James Knott wrote: > > You

Re: 4.1.4 Release Manager?

The strategy behind 4.1.3 and 4.1.4 is this:. (1) Quick releases of important bug fixes especially related to security. (2) quickly building release manager skills. We became overly dependent on people who are no longer with us. (3) establishing a regular cadence. If you both want to work

Re: [VOTE] Recommend Marcus Lange (marcus) as the New Vice President for Apache OpenOffice

+1 approve. Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 15, 2016, at 8:35 AM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: > > [BCC to PMC] > >RESOLUTION: That Marcus Lange (marcus) be recommended to the >Apache Software Foundation Board to serve as Vice President >for Apache OpenOffice. > >

Re: What would OpenOffice NON-retirement involve?

It works on VMware VHosts too. Jim, wearing your VP, Legal Affairs hat do you know anyone at Apple that could help grant a special license from Apple? Regards, Dave Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 3, 2016, at 10:03 AM, Jim Jagielski wrote: > > Well, not sure if it is

Re: [DISCUSS] What Would OpenOffice Retirement Involve? (long)

> On Sep 2, 2016, at 3:42 PM, Jim Jagielski <j...@jagunet.com> wrote: > > Yes, still VERY valid! > >> On Sep 2, 2016, at 12:37 PM, Dave Fisher <dave2w...@comcast.net> wrote: >> >> Hi Jim, >> >> I seem to recall that you made an offer to help wi

Re: What would OpenOffice NON-retirement involve?

Thank you for the initiative. Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 3, 2016, at 7:00 AM, Patricia Shanahan wrote: > >> On 9/3/2016 2:07 AM, Marcus wrote: >> Am 09/03/2016 09:47 AM, schrieb Patricia Shanahan: >>> Thanks. I've already filed the request to create the list. Once that >>>

Re: [DISCUSS] What Would OpenOffice Retirement Involve? (long)

Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 2, 2016, at 5:37 PM, toki <toki.kant...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> On 02/09/2016 20:12, Dave Fisher wrote: >> >> I disagree with consumer vs corporate. Individuals have benefited greatly >> from all of the free projects lik

Re: What would OpenOffice NON-retirement involve?

Then you should give the project every encouragement to get the build process properly prepared. Our outgoing PMC chair should consider the same. Regards, Dave Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 2, 2016, at 12:41 PM, Marvin Humphrey wrote: > > > >> On 2016-09-02 09:43

Re: What would OpenOffice NON-retirement involve?

Hi - Awesome. These are the kinds of questions that should energize the project. Base is a problem, but there are many Java bridges that can be plugged if we open up the configuration. Regards, Dave Sent from my iPhone On Sep 2, 2016, at 11:40 AM, Phillip Rhodes

Re: [DISCUSS] What Would OpenOffice Retirement Involve? (long)

Hi Jim, I seem to recall that you made an offer to help with Mac builds. I know you helped during incubation. Is your offer still valid? Regards, Dave Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 2, 2016, at 6:59 AM, Jim Jagielski wrote: > > >>> On Sep 2, 2016, at 9:48 AM, Jörg Schmidt

Re: What would OpenOffice NON-retirement involve?

Really? Substantial work is done on list to improve the build process for Windows and you don't think about mentioning that? Someone who has a Mac and time could help with that build! Regards, Dave Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 2, 2016, at 9:05 AM, Dennis E. Hamilton

Re: [DISCUSS] What Would OpenOffice Retirement Involve? (long)

Hi Dennis, I don't have objections to this topic, but I feel I need to make a few suggestions before this thread is either ignored or a confused mess. (1) a long, official policy statement like this is best put into a wiki page where many can edit it and it can be an easy discussion and not a

Re: Draft report

Hey Patricia this went to OpenOffice and not River. Regards, Dave Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 6, 2016, at 11:29 AM, Patricia Shanahan wrote: > > Here is a draft of the August 2016 board report. As always, suggested changes > are welcome. > >

Re: Planning for emergency releases

Hi Marcus, Until AOO can provide a simple auto-update that includes patches then from a user perspective Patricia is completely correct. Regards, Dave Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 5, 2016, at 2:20 PM, Marcus wrote: > > Am 08/05/2016 10:43 PM, schrieb Patricia Shanahan:

Re: [REPORT] AOO 4.1.2 Deployment and Take-Up through 2016Q2

In a funny way: 224 is SS. Is that Hitler's group? 238 is St Helena. Is that Napoleon? If it isn't funny to you. Apologies. 238 "countries" is impressive. Are any missed? Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 18, 2016, at 4:27 PM, toki wrote: > >> On 16/07/2016 20:00, Dennis

Re: Open Office Writer UTTER , UTTER Rubbish (or not)

Darren, OpenOffice has a long, long history. Not as long as you or me or many others here have been programming. I think you might be surprised at the number of decades of some of the generous contributors to AOO. If you have the relevant C++ experience, the source code and build instructions

Re: [ApacheCon NA] Client Track

Some ideas: (1) A panel or talk comparing Flex, Cordova, and OpenOffice. There are many levels to compare. Technology. All three are "code/community" contributions to the ASF from major companies: Adobe, Oracle and IBM. Cordova is still a corporate product as Phonegap. Each has "pushed" the

Re: [PROPOSAL][DEVTOOLS] Stage Java BootstrapConnector to Maven Repository

I think the artifacts should be org.apache.openoffice. Artifacts using org.openoffice are not likely to be within policy, but if issued would also be understood to be from this project. A proper release is required including the source for these jars. Vote is 3 +1 from PMC and a majority.

Re: [REPORT] Issue Clearance Quality + Technical Debt

In line Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 16, 2016, at 10:22 AM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: > > > >> -Original Message- >> From: donaldupre . [mailto:donaldu...@gmail.com] >> Sent: Saturday, January 16, 2016 04:51 >> To: dev@openoffice.apache.org; orc...@apache.org >>

Re: OpenOffice and SourceForge: cruel wedding

Hi Roberto, Is it possible for SourceForge to implement an active blocking if any ad that has "Office" or "OpenOffice" anywhere in the content? I understand there are technical challenges. If that is difficult is it possible to simply block all ads? Regards, Dave Sent from my iPhone > On

Re: OpenOffice and SourceForge: cruel wedding

AS - www.cominvent.com > >> 8. jan. 2016 kl. 04.46 skrev Dave Fisher <dave2w...@comcast.net>: >> >> Hi Roberto, >> >> Is it possible for SourceForge to implement an active blocking if any ad >> that has "Office" or "OpenOffice" an

Re: [LAZY CONSENSUS] Changes to local "code use" wording

Sorry for the top post. It really is not as mysterious as it seems. The legal-discuss@ list is where we should go for clarifications if this community has trouble with specific answers. The main emphasis about the voluntary contribution policy is about code contributed to and distributed by

Re: Apache POI, .xlsx export filter, and missing used cell iteration APIs in Calc

Hi, I am really glad you are looking into POI. I have been waiting for interest. I am on both the POI and OpenOffice PMCs. The support for each Office document format varies with the people volunteering. Excel is the most complete format with support for reading, writing and calculation. There

Re: [DISCUSS] Maven Repo Release of Java UNO Jar Files

Hi, This is great work. I'll note that the apidocs should be bundled into the website. See www.openoffice.org/AOI/docs/Java/ref/overview-summary.html. Thanks, Dave Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 11, 2015, at 9:42 AM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: > > I have no idea how much

Re: r1712824 withdrawn by committer.

We can see this a different way. If a developer wants to contribute to Apache OpenOffice then the only clear place is here and under the Apace License. I call that software freedom. Regards, Dave Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 11, 2015, at 8:00 PM, Pedro Giffuni wrote: > >

Re: [QUESTION] Optional Java Use for Essential Functionality

+1000. Thanks I could not agree more. We can improve MS Office compatibility with OOXML quickly using Apache POI and ODF Toolkit. With Apache Tika Text can be pulled in from almost any document. It would be exciting to work out new architecture for document support in several languages. Are

Re: ODF Plugfest: participation and leaflets

I see no objections to the wording. If we have funded the leaflet before then I have objections. If not and this is permitted then I am for LAZY CONSENSUS. That covers 2 and 3. Regards, Dave Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 5, 2015, at 3:49 AM, Andrea Pescetti wrote: > >

Re: ODF Plugfest: participation and leaflets

Excuse me I meant NO objections. Sorry. Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 5, 2015, at 8:04 AM, Dave Fisher <dave2w...@comcast.net> wrote: > > I see no objections to the wording. > > If we have funded the leaflet before then I have objections. If not and this > is perm

Re: [PROPOSAL][EXT] Submit UNO Java jar files to Maven Repository

Hi Carl, It is a great idea to release these jars. It would be a released product with the necessary formality. It could be called something like Apache OpenOffice UNO. A separate product with its own source and convenience maven release. This is a typical pattern at Apache. Again a

Re: Third-Party ALv2 Dependencies (RE: Limiting Trademark Policy Discussion ...)

: Limiting Trademark Policy Discussion (was RE: [REPORT] PMC 2015-07 Private-List ...) Hi, On 29 Aug 15, at 21:13, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote: [ ... ] We should (re)acknowledge what (re)based on Apache OpenOffice requires whatever that really is. Yep

Re: [REPORT] PMC 2015-07 Private-List Activity through July

We could reduce private traffic if we discussed the policy for trademarks in public. The community can help write a clear policy statement with real and fictional examples. This would serve the community by reducing private inquiries to unusual cases not previously considered or unclearly

Re: Limiting Trademark Policy Discussion (was RE: [REPORT] PMC 2015-07 Private-List ...)

and will not be pursued. The LEGAL JIRA section might also have issues related to branding issues. - Dennis -Original Message- From: Dave Fisher [mailto:dave2w...@comcast.net] Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2015 12:45 To: dev@openoffice.apache.org Subject: Re: [REPORT] PMC 2015-07 Private-List

Re: [VOTE] Dennis Hamilton as new AOO Chair.

+1. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 15, 2015, at 11:57 PM, jan i j...@apache.org wrote: This is a call for a formal vote among the 1 candidate for the AOO Chair role. Due to the fact that there are only 1 candidate we could use lazy consensus, but since some persons might be against that,

Re: RAT Build on AOO410 branch

I am glad this is still so! Thank you Gavin! Regards, Dave Sent from my iPhone On Jul 18, 2015, at 11:21 AM, jan i j...@apache.org wrote: On 18 July 2015 at 20:03, Gavin McDonald gmcdon...@apache.org wrote: Hi All, Apologies for the initial build failures, but we now have a

Re: CMS FAQ

My concern is that with the proposal the GUI is going away. On Mar 26, 2015, at 12:09 AM, jan i wrote: Hi All In the ongoing discussion (apache wide) Infra has now made a FAQ, which is worth reading.

Re: OpenOffice Server Migration

Could these be abandoned servers from the project prior to the move to Apache? Sent from my iPhone On Feb 23, 2015, at 2:51 PM, jan i j...@apache.org wrote: On Monday, February 23, 2015, Jeffrey Borcean jeff...@osuosl.org wrote: Hello OpenOffice Team, I am handling several server

Re: [VOTE][DISCUSS] What should we do with the Why Compliance? page on the website

I know we are waiting on Andrea's rewrite, but I would ask why bother to rewrite. Here are three reasons why the page should be removed from all language versions and not just hidden. (1) How does the PMC even know what this carefully nuanced page even says in another language like Chinese,

Re: Keith McKenna as CWiki admin

Assuming Keith has experience with Confluence Admin agreed. AFAIK CWiki Admin privileges extend to the whole of Confluence and are not limited to the project's CWikis. Infrastructure will need to be made aware of this request and grant the rights. While I don't have the bandwidth to respond to

Re: Keith McKenna as CWiki admin

Hi Andrea, Thanks. This works for sure. Let me know if my help is needed to grant him that karma. Regards, Dave On Feb 20, 2015, at 9:07 AM, Andrea Pescetti wrote: Dave Fisher wrote: AFAIK CWiki Admin privileges extend to the whole of Confluence No. Maybe the Admin Privileges I have

Re: Proposal to change or remove a web page that seems to cause unfruitful discussions.

I think we need to rewrite or remove the page. We can talk about the permissive AL. We can suggest that people do their own research and/or seek their own counsel. We could even offer a google link. If we have a vote then here is my +1 to make a change as we should not be offering this type

Re: [Vote] What should we do with the Why Compliance? page on the website

On Feb 19, 2015, at 2:28 PM, jan i wrote: On Thursday, February 19, 2015, Dennis E. Hamilton dennis.hamil...@acm.org wrote: I favor the option proposed by Tim Williams. I think a good interim maneuver is to remove the sidebar link and then we can fuss about the page ad lib. I haven't

Re: website security certificate

Hi - We had a reason that we enabled https in the first place. I don't recall it now, but there was a reason. It may have had to do with update servers. Regards, Dave On Feb 19, 2015, at 2:49 PM, Marcus wrote: Am 02/19/2015 11:14 PM, schrieb Andrea Pescetti: On 19/02/2015 Marcus wrote: OK,

Re: [Vote] What should we do with the Why Compliance? page on the website

. it does not help to be parsing and discussing a range of possible language. In addition for end users it is FOSS regardless. This is the openoffice.org site. If we want nuance we can put it on the project site in a single language. Regards, Dave On Feb 19, 2015, at 3:29 PM, Dave Fisher wrote

Re: [VOTE][DISCUSS] What should we do with the Why Compliance? page on the website

On Feb 19, 2015, at 2:09 PM, Rob Weir wrote: On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 4:38 PM, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org wrote: Rob Weir wrote: Thread for discussion Come on, what's this? Do you guys read this list? We had this conversation earlier this month, not ages ago. It ended like

Re: [PROPOSAL] move repo to Git.

Hi - In SVN you can choose parts of the repository. In Git it is all or none. If we move to GIT then please either leave both websites out of this move - or create separate git repositories for each. Also does Apache offer an SVN Mirror for GIT? Regards, Dave On Feb 13, 2015, at 11:10 PM,

Re: [DISCUSS] Inappropriate Compliance Costs

Hi Dennis, On Jan 30, 2015, at 12:36 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: Pedro and Jürgen, It is important to be concerned about false contrasts and comparisons. There is a risk, when we are essentially preaching to the choir, that we sink into some sort of fundamentalist hyperbole as well.

Re: [VOTE] New Apache OpenOffice PMC Chair

[X] Dennis E. Hamilton (orcmid) Binding. On Jan 30, 2015, at 10:52 AM, Andrea Pescetti wrote: On 31 December 2014 I wrote to this list that I would be available to resign from the Apache OpenOffice PMC Chair position as soon as a successor could be elected. A previous vote was cancelled.

Re: [DISCUSS] [VOTE] New Apache OpenOffice PMC Chair

I had expressed concernonly to highlight it. I agree others had the chance to express concern. PMC could have started a vote. Lazy consensus rules. Sent from my iPhone On Jan 30, 2015, at 4:05 PM, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org wrote: Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: On another thread, Pedro

Re: PMC Chair nominations

Just a note on the VOTE since we are doing it in public. Please make sure that the language for the candidates who are not currently on the PMC includes the language to elect them to the PMC in addition to being elected to PMC Chair. Regards, Dave On Jan 26, 2015, at 8:32 AM, Andrea Pescetti

Re: [DISCUSS] #1 New PMC Chair (was RE: Short-term priorities for OpenOffice)

On Jan 26, 2015, at 1:21 AM, Andrea Pescetti wrote: On 26/01/2015 RA Stehmann wrote: Apart from his official duties the PMC chair is seen as the representative of AOO by the public (Whether we like it or not.) This happens. More rarely than one would think, but still I confirm that I

Re: [DISCUSS] #1 New PMC Chair (was RE: Short-term priorities for OpenOffice)

On Jan 24, 2015, at 3:20 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: Andrea proposes election of a new PMC Chair as the #1 short-term priority. Here are some discussion points. 1. TIMING Once the AOO Project has selected a candidate to be the AOO PMC Chair, a motion must be taken to the ASF

Re: Nominations for a new PMC Chair

Sent from my iPhone On Jan 12, 2015, at 1:47 PM, Marcus marcus.m...@wtnet.de wrote: Am 01/12/2015 08:02 PM, schrieb Andrea Pescetti: On 11/01/2015 Marcus wrote: IMHO this PMC is more quite than others inside Apache projects. So, I wouldn't see this as a sign that they won't follow you.

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