Re: Another LWN article
Even though you were quoted three times in it? On Thu, Sep 8, 2016 at 4:32 PM, Jim Jagielskiwrote: > Note that the LWN article is protected under a subscriber > paywall. > > I'd like to followup but I'm not going to pay to repeat > on that thread what I've said numerous times in numerous > locations :) > > > On Sep 8, 2016, at 4:05 PM, Phillip Rhodes > wrote: > > > > https://lwn.net/SubscriberLink/699755/533f89639e8b53f0/ > > > > and the associated HN discussion, although I'm the only > > commenter there as I type this: > > > > https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12456071 > > > > > > Phil > > ~~~ > > This message optimized for indexing by NSA PRISM > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org > >
Re: Merge with LibreOffice?
On Wed, Aug 31, 2016 at 2:38 PM, tokiwrote: > On 31/08/2016 16:26, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: > > > The question I am left with is this: If a cousin development provides > what you want, why are you not satisfied with that? > > There are functions and capabilities in AOo that are not in LibO or EO. > There are functions and capabilities in EO that are not in LibO or AOo. > There are functions and capabilities in LibO that are not in AOo or EO. > > As such, until one of those contains all of the functions and > capabilities found in the other two, there will always be users whose > use case will require at least two, if not all three be installed. > I can't speak for what power users there may be out there, but I suspect I personally am much more likely to pick one and then defend my decision to the death, even if it means adjusting my usage pattern to fit. My criteria may be financial, or functional, or even socio-political, but whichever it is, it's enough of an effort to change my word processor AND my mind that it's not likely to happen on a casual basis, much less a day-to-day one. Don
Re: Use of OpenOffice logo.
On Wed, Feb 17, 2016 at 2:10 AM, J Cwrote: > Dear Sir: > My name is James Matt Cox and I am an independent author. I am preparing > to publish a book on open source tools for authors. May I use the > OpenOffice logo on my cover? The book covers OpenOffice, The GIMP, Scribus, > Artha, Golden Dict, Calibre and Trelby and will be distributed free of > charge. > Thank you for your time;-mattJames Matt Cox > > The procedure for using an OpenOffice trademark is outlined here: http://openoffice.apache.org/trademarks.html Don
Re: Wrongful information on the Wikipedia
"Moribund" means "dying". It's a goofy word, yes, which means it's an attention-getting word, which means people will look at it and say, "What the hell does THAT mean?" and focus on why someone would call AOO that. Is "dying" more accurate than "dormant" to describe AOO? "Dying" suggests the project is in decline and will only continue to decline. Does anyone here think "dying" is more accurate than, say, "Stalled"? Don On Tue, Sep 15, 2015 at 2:37 PM, Phillip Rhodes <motley.crue@gmail.com> wrote: > "Moribund" is a goofy word that almost nobody uses in conversation, but > it's probably more accurate than "dormant". I've spent enough time > goofing around on Wikipedia lately, so, for myself, I'm quite happy to > leave it as is, until the 4.1.2 release comes out. At that point, I think > it's clear that it should then be made "Active". > > *shrug* > > > Phil > > This message optimized for indexing by NSA PRISM > > On Mon, Sep 14, 2015 at 10:48 AM, Donald Whytock <dwhyt...@apache.org> > wrote: > > > There was a minor skirmish last week over it. Looks like there'll be one > > this week too...someone changed it to "moribund". > > > > On Fri, Sep 11, 2015 at 6:54 PM, Phillip Rhodes < > motley.crue@gmail.com > > > > > wrote: > > > > > Sorry, I missed the infobox when I looked at the page. You're right, > > > having "Dormant" there is flat out wrong and very misleading. > > > > > > I changed it to "Active" just now and added a ref pointer to the 4.1.2 > > > release schedule that Andrea just provided. I just hope there aren't > > > certain parties with a vested interest in denigrating AOO sitting > around > > > planning to start a revert war over this. :-( > > > > > > > > > Phil > > > > > > > > > This message optimized for indexing by NSA PRISM > > > > > > On Thu, Sep 10, 2015 at 10:08 AM, Max Merbald <max.merb...@gmx.de> > > wrote: > > > > > > > Hi Phil, > > > > > > > > what I meant was the infobox at the top right. In that box it says > that > > > > AOO is dormat, which is not correct and which is not in the > citations. > > > The > > > > presence of a citation does not necessry mean that the claimed info > is > > in > > > > the citation. If people read on the Wikipedia that AOO is "dormant" > > > they'll > > > > start looking for different office software. > > > > > > > > Max > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Am 03.09.2015 um 23:12 schrieb Phillip Rhodes: > > > > > > > >> I just looked at the Wikipedia page and don't see anything that's - > > > >> strictly speaking - incorrect, or lacking citations. IOW, I don't > see > > > any > > > >> supportable rationale for removing anything that's there, although > one > > > >> could question the motives of whoever made it a point to call out > some > > > >> concerns about lack of activity in the first paragaph of the > article. > > > >> Nonetheless, I think any attempt to modify that will face > opposition. > > > >> > > > >> In a related vein, The Guardian recently ran this article titled > > > "Should I > > > >> Switch From Apache OpenOffice to LibreOffice or Microsoft Office". > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > http://www.theguardian.com/technology/askjack/2015/sep/03/switch-openoffice-libreoffice-or-microsoft-office > > > >> > > > >> I don't know if there's any easy way to counter this narrative > that's > > > >> spreading through the press, about AOO being dead/dormant/whatever, > or > > > how > > > >> LO is clearly "the winner", but it's definitely unfortunate to see > > this > > > >> kind of stuff spread around so widely. :-( > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> Phil > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> This message optimized for indexing by NSA PRISM > > > >> > > > >> On Thu, Sep 3, 2015 at 4:55 PM, Louis Suárez-Potts < > lui...@gmail.com> > > > >> wrote: > > > >> > > > >> Hi Max, > >
Re: Wrongful information on the Wikipedia
There was a minor skirmish last week over it. Looks like there'll be one this week too...someone changed it to "moribund". On Fri, Sep 11, 2015 at 6:54 PM, Phillip Rhodeswrote: > Sorry, I missed the infobox when I looked at the page. You're right, > having "Dormant" there is flat out wrong and very misleading. > > I changed it to "Active" just now and added a ref pointer to the 4.1.2 > release schedule that Andrea just provided. I just hope there aren't > certain parties with a vested interest in denigrating AOO sitting around > planning to start a revert war over this. :-( > > > Phil > > > This message optimized for indexing by NSA PRISM > > On Thu, Sep 10, 2015 at 10:08 AM, Max Merbald wrote: > > > Hi Phil, > > > > what I meant was the infobox at the top right. In that box it says that > > AOO is dormat, which is not correct and which is not in the citations. > The > > presence of a citation does not necessry mean that the claimed info is in > > the citation. If people read on the Wikipedia that AOO is "dormant" > they'll > > start looking for different office software. > > > > Max > > > > > > > > Am 03.09.2015 um 23:12 schrieb Phillip Rhodes: > > > >> I just looked at the Wikipedia page and don't see anything that's - > >> strictly speaking - incorrect, or lacking citations. IOW, I don't see > any > >> supportable rationale for removing anything that's there, although one > >> could question the motives of whoever made it a point to call out some > >> concerns about lack of activity in the first paragaph of the article. > >> Nonetheless, I think any attempt to modify that will face opposition. > >> > >> In a related vein, The Guardian recently ran this article titled > "Should I > >> Switch From Apache OpenOffice to LibreOffice or Microsoft Office". > >> > >> > http://www.theguardian.com/technology/askjack/2015/sep/03/switch-openoffice-libreoffice-or-microsoft-office > >> > >> I don't know if there's any easy way to counter this narrative that's > >> spreading through the press, about AOO being dead/dormant/whatever, or > how > >> LO is clearly "the winner", but it's definitely unfortunate to see this > >> kind of stuff spread around so widely. :-( > >> > >> > >> Phil > >> > >> > >> This message optimized for indexing by NSA PRISM > >> > >> On Thu, Sep 3, 2015 at 4:55 PM, Louis Suárez-Potts > >> wrote: > >> > >> Hi Max, > >>> > >>> On 03 Sep 15, at 16:31, Max Merbald wrote: > > Hi there, > > the Engish Wikipedia claims that AOO is dormant. I can't see where > they > > >>> have the information from. The sources they use don't say so. I think > >>> it's > >>> definitely bad for OpenOffice when people think no more is done about > it. > >>> The problem is also that LibreOffice has just published its version 5.0 > >>> and > >>> is getting ahead of us. > >>> > >>> thanks for the alert. > >>> > >>> Wikipedia is composed by a crowd of editors, and you can change the > entry > >>> to reflect the facts. > >>> > >>> So can anyone on this list. Becoming an editor at Wikipedia is not > >>> arduous. > >>> > >>> Louis > >>> > Max > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org > > - > >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org > >>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org > >>> > >>> > >>> > > > > - > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org > > > > >
Re: Draft Blog Post: Authoring e-Books in Apache OpenOffice: An Interview with Jon Holdsworth
On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 10:36 AM, jan i j...@apache.org wrote: On 11 May 2015 at 14:57, Rob Weir r...@robweir.com wrote: https://blogs.apache.org/roller-ui/authoring/preview/OOo/?previewEntry=authoring_e_books_in_apache That requires an editor account for the blog to read. I though there was an easy way to rewrite the URL so the preview was public, but that does not seem to be working for me. no the preview function is only for the selected few. In any case, this is an interview with an author who used AOO for a book he recently wrote and has some nice technical hints on how to accomplish this with OpenOffice. This should be of interest to many of our users/ +1 go for publish. rgds jan I. -Rob Looks good. I assume it was an email interview? I know what he means by the span issue, though I haven't explicitly looked for it in OpenOffice. But in MS Word and Sharepoint wiki editor, every time you change font, character size, color, etc., it effectively creates a span. Deleting the characters in that set doesn't necessarily eliminate the span, and the empty spans can accumulate. And of course each span needs its own full complement of style attributes. Also, it's sort of instinctive to change a font or size or color back to what it was before a particular section by setting it explicitly. Each instance of setting will create a new block that your text goes in. So you'd have a span that contains your normal text, then you'd have a span inside that that contains your red text, then you'd have a span inside that one that contains your back-to-black text. All these spans lying around are like sinkholes that things can fall into if you're not careful. Perhaps a couple things that can help with that... - An option to either explicitly or automatically eliminate empty spans. - A hotkey to turn off the last style attribute applied. Though again I haven't looked...Does OO already have these? Don
Re: Softpedia: Apache OpenOffice Downloaded More than 100 Million Times, but Not on Linux
On Fri, Apr 18, 2014 at 11:16 AM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Fri, Apr 18, 2014 at 10:45 AM, Alexandro Colorado j...@oooes.org wrote: Havent read the article yet, but what was the percentage of Linux downloads in OpenOffice.org? And how does Apache OpenOffice Linux downloads compared to this one? I have no idea what the download distribution was with OOo. But I do know that since AOO 3.4, so for the past two years, the percentages for Windows, Mac and Linux have remained the same. Also from a Marketing perspective we should enhance the download to a distro-specific, like Apache OpenOffice for Ubuntu and Apache OpenOffice for Fedora, etc. Even if you could argue, we hae a .deb and a .rpm, it makes the user more secure that his download will work with Ubuntu 14.x An interesting idea. Could expand it to Apache OpenOffice for Windows 8, etc. It confirms that yes, we know what platform you are running and yes, the download we're giving you is compatible. If AOO is bundled into a particular distribution of Linux, I'm guessing that doesn't count as a download...? So there could be more actual installations of AOO on Linux than our stats can show? Don
Re: How can we promote Crowdfunding Project relatet to AOO?
On Fri, Feb 28, 2014 at 9:39 AM, Raphael Bircher rbirc...@apache.orgwrote: Hi at all We allready talked about crowdfunding and generaly agree, that this will be a good idea. I will start at the next time a p'roject at a crowdfunding platform to rise money for a LTS Version for 4.0.2. So we can still support Mac OS X 10.6 downward. I plane to back port security fixes and really important bug fixes. The costs will be about $2000. This just for information. The big question is, how we handle such projects? My proposal: - Create a site with open / in programming / finished crowd funding projects. - Make a blog about it if the organizer whish that. Other Ideas? These crowdfunding activities would not be official acts of AOO or Apache, right? Since (my understanding is) Apache doesn't support targeted donations or paid development? If they're outside/independent acts, wouldn't they be, for all practical purposes, a subclass of third-party support vendors? Don
Re: Draft OpenOffice Writer Usability Survey
On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 9:15 AM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Tue, Feb 25, 2014 at 5:11 PM, Donald Whytock dwhyt...@apache.org wrote: On Tue, Feb 25, 2014 at 4:51 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: I while ago we were contacted by some academic researchers in Spain who wanted to do a usability study about OpenOffice Writer. The wanted to interview Writer users, both new and experienced. You can read about the study here: https://sites.google.com/site/silviateresitaacunna/Home/usability-in-oss Since data privacy would not allow us to give them our mailing list to contact the users directly, we came up with the idea of using an opt-in survey to collect the names of those who would be interested. You can see the draft survey here: http://survey.openoffice.org/index.php/396365/lang/en/ It collects basic info about the users and their experience level, and then at the end asks if they agree to participate in the follow-up study. If they agree then we collect their email address. If you get a chance, please review the survey and let me know of any concerns. The phrasing on the year questions, Each answer must be between 0 and 100, seems a bit odd, as if one is expected to give more than one answer to the question. Here's the issue with that question: Our experience with the prior two questions is that we run into trouble when asking a how long have you been type question. We saw people entering the year they started doing the action. So they would enter 2010 if they started using OpenOffice in 2010 rather than 3 for three years. So the field validation is attempting to give an error if they make this mistake. It restricts the duration field to a number between 0 and 100. Oh, I understand the intent. It was just the use of the word each that I wondered about, since Each answer must be between 0 and 100 appeared before multiple questions. So it was reading a bit to me that the restriction applied to each of the presumably potentially multiple answers to that question.
Re: Draft OpenOffice Writer Usability Survey
On Tue, Feb 25, 2014 at 4:51 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: I while ago we were contacted by some academic researchers in Spain who wanted to do a usability study about OpenOffice Writer. The wanted to interview Writer users, both new and experienced. You can read about the study here: https://sites.google.com/site/silviateresitaacunna/Home/usability-in-oss Since data privacy would not allow us to give them our mailing list to contact the users directly, we came up with the idea of using an opt-in survey to collect the names of those who would be interested. You can see the draft survey here: http://survey.openoffice.org/index.php/396365/lang/en/ It collects basic info about the users and their experience level, and then at the end asks if they agree to participate in the follow-up study. If they agree then we collect their email address. If you get a chance, please review the survey and let me know of any concerns. The phrasing on the year questions, Each answer must be between 0 and 100, seems a bit odd, as if one is expected to give more than one answer to the question. Other than that it looks fine to me. Don
Re: About International Mother Language Day
On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 1:57 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: Great. Here is Khan's draft along with some information on AOO language support: https://blogs.apache.org/preview/OOo/?previewEntry=international_mother_language_day_2014 If there are any corrections please get them ASAP. I'd like to go live with in 4 hours or so. -Rob On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 7:17 PM, Khan Md. Anwarus Salam kman...@gmail.com wrote: Here is my blog draft:On International Mother Language Day the UN's Educational, Scientific and Cultural Organization (UNESCO) and UN agencies participate in events that promote linguistic and cultural diversity. They also encourage people to maintain their knowledge of their mother language while learning and using more than one language. Governments and non-governmental organizations may use the day to announce policies to encourage language learning and support. You can visit http://www.internationalmotherlanguageday.com/ to know about worldwide #IMLD events. The Apache OpenOffice project is proud to help commemorate International Mother Language Day on February 21. Read more about why this day is important, how OpenOffice supports linguistic diversity, and how you can help.Why February 21 was chosen? February 21st was declared as International Mother Language Dayhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Mother_Language_Day (IMLD) by UNESCO. IMLD originated as the international recognition of Language Movement Day, which has been commemorated in Bangladesh (formerly East Pakistan) since 1952, when a number of Dhaka university students were killed by the Pakistani police and army in Dhaka during the Bengali Language Movement http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bengali_Language_Movement. This is the only event where people gave their lives to preserve the independence of using their mother language. To remember them there is a monument named Language Martyr's Monument (Shahid Minar http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shaheed_Minar,_Dhaka) in Dhaka University, Bangladesh. Every year more than a million people give flowers there. This is a big event in Bangladesh. Many foreigners visit Bangladesh just to experience the way the Bangladeshi people give respect to those brave hearts. Every town of Bangladesh has a Language Martyr's Monument, where local people give flowers. A Language Martyr's Monument is also built in Ikebukoro park of Tokyo, Japan. There are also Language Martyr's Monument in USA, UK, Italy and many other countries. Please think about your Mother Language not only on February 21 but also on other days. With Best Regards, Khan Md. Anwarus Salam On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 6:22 AM, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org wrote: On 17/02/2014 Khan Md. Anwarus Salam wrote: Like last year, I can write a blog post about IMLD and the history behind it. We are now very close to the deadline, so if you can write something we can look into publishing it, even though I'm not sure whether there will be enough time to complete it with some information about the OpenOffice language support. If someone can help with that, we could have a nice post. Regards, Andrea. This site's security certificate has expired! Don
Re: About International Mother Language Day
On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 2:04 PM, Donald Whytock dwhyt...@apache.org wrote: On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 1:57 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: Great. Here is Khan's draft along with some information on AOO language support: https://blogs.apache.org/preview/OOo/?previewEntry=international_mother_language_day_2014 If there are any corrections please get them ASAP. I'd like to go live with in 4 hours or so. -Rob On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 7:17 PM, Khan Md. Anwarus Salam kman...@gmail.com wrote: Here is my blog draft:On International Mother Language Day the UN's Educational, Scientific and Cultural Organization (UNESCO) and UN agencies participate in events that promote linguistic and cultural diversity. They also encourage people to maintain their knowledge of their mother language while learning and using more than one language. Governments and non-governmental organizations may use the day to announce policies to encourage language learning and support. You can visit http://www.internationalmotherlanguageday.com/ to know about worldwide #IMLD events. The Apache OpenOffice project is proud to help commemorate International Mother Language Day on February 21. Read more about why this day is important, how OpenOffice supports linguistic diversity, and how you can help.Why February 21 was chosen? February 21st was declared as International Mother Language Dayhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Mother_Language_Day (IMLD) by UNESCO. IMLD originated as the international recognition of Language Movement Day, which has been commemorated in Bangladesh (formerly East Pakistan) since 1952, when a number of Dhaka university students were killed by the Pakistani police and army in Dhaka during the Bengali Language Movement http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bengali_Language_Movement. This is the only event where people gave their lives to preserve the independence of using their mother language. To remember them there is a monument named Language Martyr's Monument (Shahid Minar http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shaheed_Minar,_Dhaka) in Dhaka University, Bangladesh. Every year more than a million people give flowers there. This is a big event in Bangladesh. Many foreigners visit Bangladesh just to experience the way the Bangladeshi people give respect to those brave hearts. Every town of Bangladesh has a Language Martyr's Monument, where local people give flowers. A Language Martyr's Monument is also built in Ikebukoro park of Tokyo, Japan. There are also Language Martyr's Monument in USA, UK, Italy and many other countries. Please think about your Mother Language not only on February 21 but also on other days. With Best Regards, Khan Md. Anwarus Salam On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 6:22 AM, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org wrote: On 17/02/2014 Khan Md. Anwarus Salam wrote: Like last year, I can write a blog post about IMLD and the history behind it. We are now very close to the deadline, so if you can write something we can look into publishing it, even though I'm not sure whether there will be enough time to complete it with some information about the OpenOffice language support. If someone can help with that, we could have a nice post. Regards, Andrea. This site's security certificate has expired! Ikebukoro park - Ikebukoro Park Aside from that, would it be desirable to mention how any language can be developed for AOO, even as an independent effort?
Re: More annoying FUD
On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 12:34 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: http://www.italovignoli.org/2014/02/language-support-of-office-suites/ Don't you love it when they come up with these false comparisons? If you look a little bit closer you see that they are releasing and counting languages where the UI is only 15% translated. So yes, if you are willing to release incomplete work then you can claim to support more languages. But what kind of support is this? A specific example: Tartar (15% UI translated) I thought OOo had a requirement for 80% completion before releasing a translation. With AOO we made the requirement be 100%. LO releases 15% complete UI translations ?! Of course, we shouldn't judge their release criteria. That is their business (and their users) not ours. But when they make false comparisons in a table, comparing apples-to-oranges, then we ought to note it. It is not fair to claim lower standards are the same as greater results. Another example: They've released Hebrew support at 90% complete. We have Hebrew support at 96% complete, but we have not released it yet. Another example: Our Icelandic translation (unreleased) is 95% complete. Theirs (released) is only 88%. Another example: We have 36 languages at 100% complete UI translation. LO has only 13. Look at the data and make your own comparisons: https://translate.apache.org/projects/aoo40/ https://translations.documentfoundation.org/projects/libo_ui/ More recently posted on the blog by the author: italovignoli February 19, 2014 at 2:12 amhttp://www.italovignoli.org/2014/02/language-support-of-office-suites/#comment-6950 Although the comparison was between LibreOffice and Microsoft Office, I have updated the table to reflect the situation at AOO provided by that project. In all fairness, even if they're not complete, it's still an impressive list of languages LO is claiming. Don
Re: Reporting a problem with the OpenOffice website
2014-02-12 12:22 GMT-05:00 René VIDIL jrvi...@wanadoo.fr: Bonjour J'utilisais jusqu'à présent la version 3.4.1 et en cherchant à résoudre quelques problèmes j'ai découvert qu'il existait la dernière version 4.0.1. Je l'ai téléchargée sur votre site openoffice.org qui renvoie en fait sur heanet.dl.sourceforge.net. Apparemment la version téléchargée serait la 4.0.0 ! Dans un premier temps OO s'est ouvert mais les raccourcis ne fonctionnaient pas message raccourci manquant Après avoir essayé de résoudre ce souci, sans succès, OO ne s'ouvre plus, j'ai décidé de désinstaller OO dans le panneau de configuration mais peu après le début du processus le message suivant apparait : Please exit OpenOffice 4.0.0 and the OpenOffice 4.0.0 Quickstarter before you continue. If you are using a multi-user system, also make sure that no other user has OpenOffice 4.0.0 open Et je ne peux donc pas désinstaller OO. Mon anglais n'est pas parfait mais je crois comprendre que je dois m'assurer qu'aucun autre utilisateur à ouvert OO 4.0.0 alors que je suis le seul utilisateur de l'ordinateur .. Que dois-je faire pour résoudre ce problème ? Pourquoi le message indique OO 4.0.0 au lieu de OO 4.0.1 comme proposé lors du téléchargement ? Merci de votre aide Cordialement R.VIDIL Apologies for the response in English. http://openoffice.org should NOT redirect to anything. Please let us know if this did happen. http://heanet.dl.sourceforge.net/ is NOT an OpenOffice address, and did not work when I tried it. The download page for OpenOffice is http://www.openoffice.org/download/other.html The SourceForge page for OpenOffice is http://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/ The current OpenOffice version is 4.0.1. Bon chance... Don
Re: Reporting a problem with the OpenOffice website
On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 1:48 PM, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.orgwrote: Donald Whytock wrote: http://openoffice.org should NOT redirect to anything. Please let us know if this did happen. http://heanet.dl.sourceforge.net/ is NOT an OpenOffice address, and did not work when I tried it. To avoid confusion: when you download from the official site (i.e. when you click the Download button in http://www.openoffice.org/ download/index.html ) you are, in a sense, redirected to SourceForge, since the binary file is downloaded from there. And the download will appear to come from something.dl.sourceforge.net (in Europe I've often see heanet.dl.sourceforge.net and several others). So there are no problems with this redirection. This is what happens for a genuine download from the official page. Regards, Andrea. Sorry for the alarm, then. I clicked on the link and got a Sourceforge page that said, Whoops, we can't find that page. I thought the worst, that someone had managed to spoof the site to a Sourceforge project of their own. Don
Re: So-called Reporting a problem with the OpenOffice website
On Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 12:08 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: Is anyone else noticing that almost no one uses the link to report website issues to actually report website issues? I wonder whether we're making it harder for ourselves by having this link? I don't mind getting support questions to the dev list, but the non-informative subject lines we get is unhelpful. Maybe send web site issue reports to Bugzilla instead? I've never actually seen this link...just seen the results of it here. I assume it leads to a form? Maybe there should be a button/link above the form that says, If this is a problem with OpenOffice rather than this website, click here. Something that takes them to a different form where they put in OS, system memory, and (for all those my copy has bloatware! complaints) where they got OO from. Don
Re: So-called Reporting a problem with the OpenOffice website
On Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 1:16 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 12:20 PM, Donald Whytock dwhyt...@apache.org wrote: On Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 12:08 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: Is anyone else noticing that almost no one uses the link to report website issues to actually report website issues? I wonder whether we're making it harder for ourselves by having this link? I don't mind getting support questions to the dev list, but the non-informative subject lines we get is unhelpful. Maybe send web site issue reports to Bugzilla instead? I've never actually seen this link...just seen the results of it here. I assume it leads to a form? In the footer of every www.openoffice.org page there is a contact us link. That loads this page: http://www.openoffice.org/contact_us.html Notice that user, unless they are standing on their heads and reading from the bottom of the page up, must ignore the advice for support questions, ignore the advice for reporting bugs, ignore the note that says that the following instructions are *not* for user support, and then click the link that clearly says it is for reporting website issues. I'm at a loss at how it happens that users reach that point. -Rob Yeah...I'd been assuming it was just too easy an option, but looking at that page...I got nuthin'. Unless you want to take the Douglas Adams approach...put the link on a local copy of the webpage stored on a laptop in a filing cabinet in the basement with a Beware of the Leopard sign. But that doesn't really stimulate community... Don
Re: Application Review - OpenOffice
On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 9:27 AM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: We did receive your 27-page long questionnaire regarding the capabilities and license of the OpenOffice application. There may be some misunderstanding here. I'm tempted to put that on my cube wall as a quote.
Re: isn't comprised of
On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 9:29 AM, Louis Suárez-Potts lui...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Rob Weir wrote: On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 6:53 AM, Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie wrote: On Tue, 4 Feb 2014 00:07:25 -0500 E. Ward eward...@hotmail.com wrote: Dear Brilliant OOers, About comprise. You write, is comprised of six personal productivity applications Actually, it's, six personal productivity application comprise OO. That is, the smaller comprise the larger. Everyone get it wrong - all the time . . . except . . . I'm about to try OO - am an old (literally) Word user. Eager to exploit OO to its fullest, or would that be to my fullest? Thank you, EWard Even simpler is to say OpenOffice comprises six personal productivity applications The Oxford English Dictionary, 2nd edition, gives the passive used comprised of, meaning to be composed of, to consist of, attested back to 1874. So there is nothing incorrect about the current wording. To my ears it sounds more natural than your version. I wonder if this is an American/British usage difference? Quite possibly. Or even more, a kind of temporal/regional thing: usage patterns, like pronunciation, change as this or that population gains linguistic dominance (i.e., we do what they do speechwise, even if it ain't the Queen's English, or even Twain's). But to comprise. I agree with Rob. And that has nothing to do with my having a phd in the field. Grammar rules are conventions that serve to clarify logical speech operations so that communication is made easier. If communication is actually not made easier, then But what I usually do, in much of my own writing, is use compose. The only rule I like to follow with comprise is that it refers to the totality of the objects making up the whole, thus, n comprises y, and that should mean that all of y are the n components. But even here, there are slippages, and there is no reason that identities need stay fixed. But along these lines, the only logical insistence one might have in grammar is to follow the math: are is plural, none takes the singular, as do neither and either and others that logically refer to singles not plurals, if read differently. (I shut my eyes to who/whom violations. I have not given up hope on this, but do despair. People, it's not that hard. Just put it into Latin and think: accusitive, dative; you know, it's easy! Much easier than using that Attic Greek you avoided memorizing in school.) Salve, Lovis PS, Louis Menand's take down of grammarians protesting too much is worth the read, as is, of course Twain's. Regards, -Rob -- Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org One could argue that comprise has more general utility than compose, in that one commonly hears A is composed of B but not B composes A (unless B stands for Beethoven). Whereas A comprises B does sort of imply B is comprised of A, assuming is comprised of is valid usage at all. But yeah, I'd've used is composed of too. Or simply includes. Don
Re: Call for Comments: Apache OpenOffice Distributor Best Practices
On Mon, Jan 20, 2014 at 2:14 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 9:47 AM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: Details are here: https://blogs.apache.org/OOo/entry/call_for_comments_apache_openoffice It has been over a month since we put out this call for comments. You can see some of them in this thread, as well as with the blog post: https://blogs.apache.org/OOo/entry/call_for_comments_apache_openoffice#comments The response was generally positive. However, the volume of responses was rather low. So I do wonder whether there is a large unmet need for this. For example, we have not (to my knowledge) received requests for a CD on the mailing list in months now. Another data point: the webpage that is #1 in Google search results for the query openoffice cd is: http://www.openoffice.org/distribution/cdrom/ It receives around 7 visits per day. Any proposal we came up with would be findable to user mainly through that same mechanism -- searching Google. Is it worth setting something up for 7 users per day? Note: if we removed our web pages that discuss OpenOffice CD's, the top link would be a vendor on Amazon.com selling an OpenOffice CD. So in a sense, if we just get out of the way, it would tend to work. The risk would be if we see vendors starting to scam users. Next steps? If anyone really wants to have a CD distributor listing, I can help. But it is not sufficiently high on my priority list to carry this by myself. Someone else would need to take the lead. Regards, -Rob If you want to take a get out of the way approach, would you nevertheless want to put up signature files for official releases, such that anything one does buy can at least be verified before it's installed? Might be too late at that point to get one's money back, but it could save the buyer some grief with his machine. And give the buyer grounds to out a fraudulent purveyor. Don
Re: Are there any legal repercussions for banning users from mailing lists?
On Mon, Jan 20, 2014 at 11:40 AM, Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie wrote: On Mon, 20 Jan 2014 11:27:09 -0500 Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: We (Apache OpenOffice) recently had a user subscribe our users mailing list (500+ subscribers), and cause general disruption: 1) Many posts (20+) in a short period of time 2) Posts were off topic 3) She attacked list moderators and other members of the list 4) She threatened that she would report anyone who flamed her to their ISP or the Department of Justice for hate crimes. I was cc'ed on one email where she did exactly that to another subscriber of the mailing list. Said person never asked a single question regarding the use of OpenOffice, which is the purpose of the users mailing list. We had several complaints from other users, and several unsubscribed because they could not deal with the disruption. As list moderator I banned her. Then she started flooding our private mailing list, claiming that we were violating her civil rights, violating the Americans with Disabilities Act, etc., because we banned her. Reading between the lines it sounds like she is claiming the mailing list is a place of public accommodation and her disability (which seems to be form of ADHD) prevents her from controlling her conduct on the mailing list. We then banned her from mailing to the private list as well. But now she has started using a new email address, sending more complaints and threatening to report us to the Justice Department in two weeks if we don't allow her back on the users list. PMC members are split on whether to ignore her, engage her, ban her, etc. Note: she has not requested any specific accommodation. In my most-recent note to her I wrote: If you do have a technical question about Apache OpenOffice, I want to make sure you are aware that there are several other avenues for support described here: http://www.openoffice.org/support/ If you get stuck on any of those support options, feel free to send me a note directly and I, acting as your personal support concierge, will point you in the right direction and try to accommodate any special needs. So no one can accuse us of not making a good faith to accommodate her. But this has not helped. Any thoughts on this? Is there any risk to the ASF or our volunteers in moderating mailing lists or banning disruptive users? I was always told that the right of free speech was hedged with responsibilities. For example one cannot (unwarrantedly) shout Fire in a crowded theatre. But this is a European interpretation. US interpretation may differ. Re the person responsible - if she has been warned about off-topic and has repeatedly posted off-topic, then ban her strictly for that - breach of Forum rules, nothing to involve her civil rights. IANAL, but my understanding has been that constitutional rights are limitations on government, and pretty much government only. Individuals and private organizations can make whatever rules they see fit for conduct in their facilities, within the bounds of criminal law. ASF as an institution, and its projects in particular, are very opt-in. There's no requirement to accommodate anyone because there's no requirement for anyone to partake. But again, IANAL. Don
Re: Reporting a problem with the OpenOffice website
On Mon, Dec 30, 2013 at 7:14 PM, Keith N. McKenna keith.mcke...@comcast.net wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Southwest Media wrote: I cannot find an acceptable contact for my problem with open office and I HATE forums they are for lazy companies who do not want to service customers.. I have a question who at this organization can I e mail my question too?? I cant stop this crazy thing from trying to self correct and its doing it all wrong so I take half an hour to type a sentence this is NUTTS!!! What is wrong with this thing??? Please tell me who in tech I can e mail director I can just go find a soft ware competitor First understand that this is not a company. OpenOffice is open source software created and maintained by volunteers under the auspices of the Apache Software Foundation. Therefore there is not a person that you can send questions to. There is nothing wrong with it, it is simply proceeding under the default autocorrect options. These options can be changed by the user. In Writer go to Tools-autocorrect options and set the options you want on the different tabs. Regards Keith McKenna Adding the originator.
Re: Reporting a problem with the OpenOffice website
On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 10:24 PM, grumpy rp...@q.com wrote: From this page: http://www.openoffice.org/download/common/java.html taking the link Installation FAQ which goes here: http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/FAQ/Installation results in this message: There is a problem with this website's security certificate. The security certificate presented by this website was issued for a different website's address. Confirmed in IE8. Though I don't get it in Chrome. Don
Re: new version
On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 3:46 PM, Vladislav Stevanovic stevanovicvladis...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, Where I can download the newest version of AOO, for testing purpose? Regards, Wlada Usually from openoffice.org. Specifically, http://www.openoffice.org/download/index.html Or do you mean the newest pre-release version? Don
Re: draft blog post: Call for Comments: Apache OpenOffice Distributor Best Practices
On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 3:14 PM, Keith N. McKenna keith.mcke...@comcast.netwrote: Change CDs to CD's. Why?
Re: Openoffice is being sold on ebay
Hi Luis... Thank you for your concern. However, since Apache OpenOffice is free to distribute and re-distribute, it's considered legal to sell it on Ebay, inasmuch as it's a sale of a CD/DVD that happens to have AOO on it. Please note that Apache does not endorse or guarantee any copy of AOO not downloaded from an AOO site. Don On Thu, Nov 28, 2013 at 2:32 AM, Jorg Schmidt joe...@j-m-schmidt.de wrote: Hello, -Original Message- From: luis e [mailto:didakti...@hotmail.com] Sent: Thursday, November 28, 2013 1:35 AM To: dev@openoffice.apache.org Subject: Openoffice is being sold on ebay To whom it may concern: I found out that there are sellers in ebay selling CDs with Openoffice. You can see some examples here: http://m.ebay.com/itm/251386841813?nav=SEARCHsbk=1 http://m.ebay.com/itm/251388556478?nav=SEARCHsbk=1 I will try to contact ebay to let them know about this issue. And what problem do you see? It's very welcome if OpenOffice is sold, because thereby it becomes widespread. See the arguments in: http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/selling.html.en Greetings, Jorg - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Openoffice is being sold on ebay
On Fri, Nov 29, 2013 at 10:32 AM, Jörg Schmidt joe...@j-m-schmidt.dewrote: Hello, From: dwhyt...@gmail.com [mailto:dwhyt...@gmail.com] On Please note that Apache does not endorse or guarantee any copy of AOO not downloaded from an AOO site. Is not it better to say that in general there is no guarantee it, no matter where the download comes from? (Or do I misunderstand your statement?) See point 7 in: http://www.apache.org/licenses/LICENSE-2.0.html We don't warrant AOO in any case...we provide it as-is. However, we can state that binaries people download from AOO sites are built from AOO source and don't contain anything else; we can't guarantee that for copies from any place else. Don
Re: Openoffice is being sold on ebay
On Fri, Nov 29, 2013 at 11:13 AM, Jörg Schmidt joe...@j-m-schmidt.dewrote: We don't warrant AOO in any case...we provide it as-is. However, we can state that binaries people download from AOO sites are built from AOO source and don't contain anything else; we can't guarantee that for copies from any place else. Possible. But why should we do that _explicitly_? If, this point really matter then he should be in the license, it is, however, only marginally important, we should not especially mention it because to guarantee also includes a legal aspect. A legally effective promise we can not keep, is rather bad for our reputation, so it is better to promise less and deliver more than to promise more and keep less. No, no misunderstanding, I'm sure the binaries coming from the Apache pages, 99.9% sure are (likely to 99.9 ...) but not 100%, and why should we do so as if our server are invulnerable? We make that statement on kind of a regular basis. There are people who email the list, either directly or through the web form, saying, AOO installed a toolbar!, AOO installed bloatware!, AOO installed a virus!, etc. Our routine answer to this is that, no, AOO downloaded from AOO sites doesn't install any of those things; if it did, they didn't get it from us. Don
Re: Openoffice is being sold on ebay
On Fri, Nov 29, 2013 at 12:32 PM, Regina Henschel rb.hensc...@t-online.dewrote: But I'm concerned about the way the product is shown. For example in http://www.ebay.com/itm/Microsoft-Office-Word-Excel- Compatible-Open-Office-Professional-Edition-2013/281137965681 Either it is not our OpenOffice, then it may not named so, or it is our OpenOffice, then Apache and trade mark is missing. Or this http://www.ebay.com/itm/Open-Office-Microsoft-Word-Excel- 2007-2010-Compatible-Pro-Professional-Software/150935048983 From content is is likely an OpenOffice.org 3.4.1, but the box says MT Software Solutions OpenOffice Suite. It gives the impression, that the application is developed by MT Software Solution. I seem to recall from the handoff from Oracle that OpenOffice isn't an Apache trademark...that we have Apache OpenOffice now, and that OpenOffice.org came with the license, but we didn't receive OpenOffice because it was being used in too many different countries by too many different people. So as long as they're not actually using Apache trademarks (including the gulls, the feather, etc.) I suppose they can call it whatever they want, even if it's just a hello world VBscript inside. Don - not a lawyer
Re: Reporting a problem with the OpenOffice web site
Hi Michel... Apologies for the response in English. By Outlook, do you mean email? Apache OpenOffice does not currently have an email client. Don 2013/11/21 Michel de CENAC m.per...@sfr.fr Bonjour et un grand merci pour m’avoir permis de charger votre OpenOffice 4.0.1 (gratuitement). Elle fonctionne très bien. Par contre, je suis à la recherche de Outlook ! l’avez-vous dans vote site Web ? Sinon ... Ou puis-je la trouver ? Mr Michel PERES 1, avenue de Lignan 33360 CENAC FRANCE m.per...@sfr.fr tél : 05 56 20 75 82
Re: Reporting a problem with the OpenOffice website
2013/11/15 couvreur laurence couvre...@yahoo.fr Bonjour, Le 23.10.2013 à 19h09 j'ai téléchargé une version normalement gratuite d'open office sur votre site internet. Pour cela il fallait envoyer 2 sms pour obtenir des codes afin de poursuivre le téléchargement. Aujourd'hui ces 2 sms me sont facturés 10euros TTC par mon opérateur! Aussi la notion de gratuité n'est elle pas l’absence de transaction financière? Cordialement, Laurence Couvreur. openoffice.org ?
Re: Reporting a problem with the OpenOffice website
On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 2:00 PM, Marcus (OOo) marcus.m...@wtnet.de wrote: Am 11/15/2013 07:29 PM, schrieb couvreur laurence: Bonjour, Le 23.10.2013 à 19h09 j'ai téléchargé une version normalement gratuite d'open office sur votre site internet. Pour cela il fallait envoyer 2 sms pour obtenir des codes afin de poursuivre le téléchargement. Aujourd'hui ces 2 sms me sont facturés 10euros TTC par mon opérateur! Aussi la notion de gratuité n'est elle pas l’absence de transaction financière? Cordialement, Laurence Couvreur. First of all, this is an English-speaking mailing list. I don't know any French, so please allow me to answer in English. You cannot have downloaded OpenOffice from our (www.openoffice.org) website as we don't charge any money to download our software. In general, please download only from the original vendor or at least from approved/trusted 3rd party websites. For Apache OpenOffice please use only the following download webpage. This will forward you to a download offering from our partner SourgeForge: http://www.openoffice.org/download/ HTH Marcus FYI - English translation from Google: On 23.10.2013 at 19h09 I downloaded a free version of normally open office on your website. For this it was necessary to send 2 sms to obtain codes to continue downloading. Today these two sms are charged me 10 euros TTC per my operator! Also the notion of free Is not the lack of financial transaction? Assuming the translation worked properly, he's not saying he was charged money for the download. He's saying whatever site he was downloading from required him to send two text messages in order to get a validation code for the download. Then whoever he sent the texts to billed his phone. I'm guessing whatever site he used not only misrepresented AOO, it also misrepresented free and ripped him off. I find it ironic that there are two ads in my Gmail session as I type this offering Free OpenOffice Download. Don
Re: draft blog post: Apache OpenOffice 4.1 to Bring Enhanced Accessibility Support
On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 2:28 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: This will be something to post after Steve merges the code intro the trunk, which I understand will be soon: https://blogs.apache.org/preview/OOo/?previewEntry=apache_openoffice_4_1_to Does anyone have anything else to add? A quote from an assistive technology vendor or accessibility expert would be good. Looks good in general. How does vision-impaired compare to blind or low-sight? Don
Re: Interested in a technical cross-platform mailing?
...Does that bottom part mean this mailing list is subscribed to his mailing list? Don On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 4:54 PM, MENGUAL Jean-Philippe mengualjean...@free.fr wrote: Hi, We have just founded a group, called liberte0 (Freedom 0). Its purpose is to promote the accessibility for everybody, so that a high variety of users know the free software in accessibility matter, and to let a place so that people can have info on accessibility. This group is French, so our core mailing is in French, but it is about our actions with users and some support to french-speaking users (feedbacks, etc.). But in parallel we opened a multilingual website, whose purpose is to speak mainly in English. This is a technical mailing list. 2 purposes: 1. enabling to new dev who want to work in accessibility technologies or to make thir free software accessible to have a place to ask questions, have feedbacks, with technical devs, so that they can understand that accessibility is not so hard, but it's especially an approach, and not a big effort. It's useful because we meet often devs 7who are interested but who don't know where to begin, where to have doc about the widgets, the at-spi, assistive technologies, etc. Typically I wasn't good to answer to openbox's dev who wanted to do efforts about a11y of her WM, I'm sure you could gi(e her basics to proceed. And maybe it would give ideas to some people to contribute to accessibility so that it is in progress. 2. I feel today one who want to have a global technical approach of the accessibility, in particular in GUI matter, needs to be subscribed to various lists. I think, even if I know most devs are subscribed to all lists, that it'd be useful to have a platform where all devs and power-users could have technical exchanges, if they work for Qt, GTK, distros, oriented or not, at-spi/qt-at-spi, etc. I think this mailing can gather on a single place all the a11y devs, that will enable to everybody to have the same info immediately, to discuss it, to speak together, to exchange their experiences, and so to make proceed accessibility in general, regardless the platform where a dev works (Qt, LibreOffice, OOo, Qt, Mozilla, etc.). If such a project is of interest for you, subsc!ibe to tech AT liberte0 DOT org. Don't hesitate to forward the address. You can subscribe sending a message to sympa AT liberte0 DOT org with subject: subscribe tech. I hope the project, in particular this technical, can be considered as useful and that a full community of accessibility will have a common place to speak regardless the origin of everyone, technically and nationally. Don't hesitate if you have questions about this group, here or on the tech mailing list. We'll answer as much as we can. Regards, Jean-Philippe MENGUAL accelibreinfo, votre partenaire en informatique adaptée aux déficients visuels Mail: texou@accelibreinfo.euSite Web: http://www.accelibreinfo.eu -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Vinux Support mailing list. To unsubscribe from this group, email vinux-support+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com Our website: www.vinuxproject.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: OpenOffice.org Portable - programosy
On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 4:39 PM, Marcus (OOo) marcus.m...@wtnet.de wrote: Am 11/06/2013 01:26 PM, schrieb Partnership Programosy: Hello, Can we ask you to add our link: http://www.programosy.pl/program,openoffice-portable.html in this place: http://www.openoffice.org/awards/ This program has been awarded five stars by our editors. We would be honored if on your website will be placed one of our logo: http://programosy.pl/img/stars.png or http://programosy.pl/images/b_programosypl.png or http://www.programosy.pl/favicon.ico or link. Programosy.pl has ~40 000 unique users visits a day. ***Please reply. It is very important to us. We will be grateful. * My opinion: Our awards webpage is for our OpenOffice versions only. We should not start to list other kind of software - even if it's similar or based on OpenOffice. If it's truly a port of AOO, perhaps it deserves mention on another page? Whatever happened to the third-party page? Don
Re: Another use for AOO...
On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 8:38 AM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/suburbs/plainfield/community/chi-ugc-article-district-202-to-sell-surplus-laptops-and-desk-2013-11-05,0,1820004.story School district selling off old computers to the public. They wipe the harddrive and install Microsoft Windows Vista (?!) and Apache OpenOffice. I guess Microsoft didn't want its Vista licenses back.
Re: Draft blog post: 75 Million Downloads of Apache OpenOffice
On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 1:10 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: As predicted we hit 75 million yesterday. I updated the various charts and added them to a new blog post: https://blogs.apache.org/preview/OOo/?previewEntry=75_million_downloads_of_apache the full table http://www.openoffice.org/stats/countries.html our the website - the full table http://www.openoffice.org/stats/countries.html on the website on the Y-axis). - on the Y-axis.) Windows 8, is in second place - (suggested) Windows 8 for second place Aside from that, is it more useful/intuitive to show the RPM/DEB ratio, as opposed to the multicolor fraction-of-volume you use for Windows? I realize it's only two values, but even for two values what's clearer for a user to read? Don
Re: Draft blog post: 75 Million Downloads of Apache OpenOffice
On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 1:44 PM, Donald Whytock dwhyt...@apache.org wrote: On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 1:10 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: As predicted we hit 75 million yesterday. I updated the various charts and added them to a new blog post: https://blogs.apache.org/preview/OOo/?previewEntry=75_million_downloads_of_apache the full table http://www.openoffice.org/stats/countries.html our the website - the full tablehttp://www.openoffice.org/stats/countries.html on the website on the Y-axis). - on the Y-axis.) Windows 8, is in second place - (suggested) Windows 8 for second place Aside from that, is it more useful/intuitive to show the RPM/DEB ratio, as opposed to the multicolor fraction-of-volume you use for Windows? I realize it's only two values, but even for two values what's clearer for a user to read? Don Oh, and trademark disclaimer.
Re: Reporting a problem with the OpenOffice website
On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 12:26 AM, MD Otley mdot...@yahoo.com wrote: The Other FAQ page ( http://www.openoffice.org/FAQs/faq-other.html) needs to be updated. * Several questions (and answers) still say OpenOffice.org instead of Apache OpenOffice. * Sun is no longer an independent company. For example, the link to the StarOffice page in the last answer is broken, and should be replaced with http://www.oracle.com/us/products/031968.htm Respectfully, MD Otley Thanks to MD Otley for the feedback. The faq-other.html page is part of the porting of the former website, and at the moment isn't linked directly to the AOO site, though it's reachable via the search box. Bringing the FAQ up to date is an ongoing process. Navigating through the main site, one can find FAQ pages in the documentation wiki at http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/FAQ These are also a work in progress, but are likely to be more current. Given that http://www.openoffice.org/FAQs/ doesn't even have an index.html, perhaps these pages should be moved to the wiki and removed...? Don
Re: Reporting a problem with the OpenOffice website
On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 5:12 PM, Davicia Thomas-Morgan notary2u...@gmail.com wrote: I can't donate or downloadboo! DGT Morgan Hi Davicia... Did you try http://www.openoffice.org/download/index.html ? As for donating, the ASF donations page says there's a problem with Paypal donations (we are receiving reports of failures using this link), but the Amazon Payments link seems to work. Don
Re: Downloads by Country (updated data)
On Mon, Oct 21, 2013 at 4:11 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: Updated table here: http://www.openoffice.org/stats/countries.html The last update was in early August. The top 10 has remained stable. The first change in the table is at position #12, where Belgium overtook India for downloads. But good news is that Brazil, India and Belgium have now each crossed the 1 million download mark, which makes them Apache OpenOffice Superpowers in my book ;-) Regards, -Rob Out of curiosity, which language pack did the Antarctica download include?
Re: SySaver malware?
On Sat, Sep 28, 2013 at 2:03 PM, ofae...@aol.com wrote: Earlier this week I downloaded the update, and then was directed to a page to pick a free gift app or something purporting to be from you-all for getting the update. I selected something called ZIPdownload or something like that. Soon every few links or even just blank parts of webpages I clicked on would instead open a new tab (I'm using Google Chrome Browser) offering me various convoluted consumer surveys, prizes, gift cards, etc. The URLs of the pages 'popped-up' in this way included elements similar to those of the website I was trying to read or click from, so at first I assumed they were a new kind of annoying popup ad not yet blocked by normal popup blocking. Then today I started seeing ads on Wikipedia! They had a fundraiser recently, so I wondered if they'd had to just cave and sell space. These ads were churning fast too, unlike normal web ads, and they were starting videos and audio automatically in their banners and squares. This all became intrusive, so, suspicious, I found this page https://blog.wikimedia.org/2012/05/14/ads-on-wikipedia-your-computer-infected-malware/. So I went into my browser extensions and found something unfamiliar to me calling itself SySaver and not saying anything about what it is (and I am extremely conservative about installing new programs/etc. on my laptop here, as well as knowledgeable about computers and software in general). I googled SySaver and found mentions connecting it with ecommerce, and thought it might be the culprit, even though it's not the one mentioned in the 2012 Wikimedia article. So I Trashed it in Extensions, Uninstalled it via Control Panel, noticed it had been installed just on 9/26, two days ago, same as ZIPdownload, so for good measure I uninstalled ZIPdownload too. Somewhere while I was doing this, my browser got closed w/o asking me, so I reopened it, restored my closed tabs via the yellow warning bar, and the ads seem to have disappeared from Wiikipedia, as well as the extraneous neo-popups... so far. Sorry if this is long-winded, but I never know what will be helpful to you-all, so I figure to err on the side of caution and give you these details. ---Pete in Pennsylvania Hi Pete... Thanks for your concern. Sorry this wasn't responded to sooner. Apache Open Office is free to download and distribute, so it's possible for there to be any number of legitimate copies out there. However, the only ones we can swear by are our official downloads, from the official site at openoffice.org. We also have Sourceforge distros; the links to the specific Sourceforge downloads are at http://www.openoffice.org/download/other.html If you downloaded from any other site, we have no control over it being virus/malware free. Was this an official AOO download? Don
Re: draft 4.0.1 announcement blog post
Does that need to be MS Excel? On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 11:02 AM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: https://blogs.apache.org/preview/OOo/?previewEntry=announcing_apache_openoffice_4_0 Short and direct. Is there anything else worth mentioning, from a project perspective? I tried to avoid simply repeating what the release notes already say. If I understand correctly we'll go live with the announcement on Tuesday. So we'll want to ensure the website download page is ready first. -Rob - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: New AOO 4.0 review article (PC World)
On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 4:49 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: http://www.pcworld.com/article/2048446/apache-openoffice-4-0-review-new-features-easier-to-use-still-free.html Title is Apache OpenOffice 4.0 review: New features, easier to use, still free Does someone want to work on the pseudo-Victorian dictionary? There might be demand for a language pack that includes programmetry and 'pon. Don
Re: Can we do this email thing (whatever it is called)?
On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 12:48 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: Another approach would be via a feed that is loaded by AOO itself at first load. Many products have something like that, a tips dialog that gives a new tip every time the product starts, or once a week or something. I would recommend against having the product dependent on making an internet connection on startup. That might interfere with people who work offline or have iffy connections. But a lot of products have a pop-up on startup with tips, which I assume are packaged with the product. That can be made optional, it can cycle through tips or select from them randomly, it can allow the users to page through the tips if they want, and you can make the tip file a periodic mini-update without requiring an entire release. This wouldn't necessarily preclude an email tip, but the email tips can be ones that are new to everyone, and might eventually be added to the tip file. (ooo-tips@ ?) Don
Re: Reporting a problem with the OpenOffice website
On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 1:07 PM, Mr. Phan Anh ppa...@gmail.com wrote: Here is the alternative link: http://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/files/4.0.0/binaries/en-US/Apache_OpenOffice_4.0.0_Win_x86_install_en-US.exe/download Besides, aware that, the attached elements should be in zip, not by insert them inside the email. Your previous email doesnt contain any picture. Plus the mailing list tends to filter attachments. I believe there's a known issue on the download page where it requires Javascript to run. I am unable to see the links using my office's IE8, where some scripting is turned off; however, I can see them in Chrome. Don
Re: I would like to get notified when the korean language pack is ready. thank you :D eom
Hi Brooke... You may want to subscribe to the AOO announce list: announce-subscr...@openoffice.apache.org It's fairly low volume, and tends to include announcements of languages becoming available. Don On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 6:37 PM, Brooke White traumspin...@googlemail.comwrote:
Re: Yet another flyer
No, but Apache cares about legal issues, and therefore might not want someone else's trademarks (however valid or frivolous) infringed upon in the context of presenting Apache's own valid ones. Don On Fri, Aug 30, 2013 at 2:08 PM, Drew Jensen drewjensen.in...@gmail.comwrote: Personally, I don't care about that other entity. On Fri, Aug 30, 2013 at 1:53 PM, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: On 30 August 2013 18:53, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: Nice one! Though OpenOffice on its own is someone else's trademark, so care should be taken in abusing it. I mean, *not* to abuse it. Sorry! - d. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Yet another flyer
Eh, vitriol has a long half-life. Anyway, about content... Issue free copies of the software to students with their course -- I might suggest Provide rather than Issue, because for some reason I read that as Issue-free on the first pass. book, with Writer all are simple tasks -- suggest book are all simple tasks with Writer. straight forward - straightforward Exploit decorative treasures, such as special shapes such as banners, stars and captions, from the Gallery - Exploit decorative treasures, including special shapes such as banners, stars and captions, from the Gallery Create 3D objects with A simple click - Create 3D objects with a simple click Available free form: - Available free from: I see your disclaimer box for commercial products. I honestly don't know if that obviates the need for TMs here and there. Anyone else know? Don On Fri, Aug 30, 2013 at 2:23 PM, Drew Jensen drewjensen.in...@gmail.comwrote: Ok - I've been hearing about this for 9 years and there has never been a problem - I was a bit curt in my reply. On Fri, Aug 30, 2013 at 2:22 PM, Donald Whytock dwhyt...@apache.org wrote: No, but Apache cares about legal issues, and therefore might not want someone else's trademarks (however valid or frivolous) infringed upon in the context of presenting Apache's own valid ones. Don On Fri, Aug 30, 2013 at 2:08 PM, Drew Jensen drewjensen.in...@gmail.com wrote: Personally, I don't care about that other entity. On Fri, Aug 30, 2013 at 1:53 PM, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: On 30 August 2013 18:53, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: Nice one! Though OpenOffice on its own is someone else's trademark, so care should be taken in abusing it. I mean, *not* to abuse it. Sorry! - d. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Yet another flyer
On Fri, Aug 30, 2013 at 6:17 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Fri, Aug 30, 2013 at 2:22 PM, Donald Whytock dwhyt...@apache.org wrote: No, but Apache cares about legal issues, and therefore might not want someone else's trademarks (however valid or frivolous) infringed upon in the context of presenting Apache's own valid ones. Trademarks apply to a specific class of product. There is no other OpenOffice, Apache OpenOffice or OpenOffice.org that is a software application.This is why the jobs website Monster.com can exist along with Monster Cables, or Apple Records can exist along with Apple Computer. So long as we use the full name at first use for clarity, we should feel free to use the shorter form in the rest of the document. This has been our practice on the website, press releases, documentation, etc. Actually, Apple Records and Apple Computer had a very hard time existing with each other for many years... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_Corps_v._Apple_Computer ...But yeah, I can see that if you lead with Apache OpenOffice it establishes context. Thanks. Don
Re: Bug ??
Sorry for the response in English. This mailing list usually blocks attachments. Do you have a place to host the file? Or can you explain with more detail? Don 2013/8/29 VERRON Jacques jacques.ver...@orange.fr Bonjour, ** ** Depuis fort longtemps j’ai un soucis avec ce type de document réalisé à partis d’un fichier en wmf (ou Emf). Imprimé le et vous comprendrez. Les zone en dégradé se transforment en carré. Il y a des solutions pour utiliser le document en le transformant en bitmap par exemple mais ce serait mieux en natif. Sous Corel draw il n’y a pas de pb. ** ** Salutations et longue vie à Open office Apache ** ** *VERRON Jacques* *5, Allée des Chèvrefeuilles* *86000 POITIERS* * * *0549013258* *[image: Ins_Arpete_2]* ** **
Re: Invitation to use Google Talk
Is this meant as an IRC altenative? Don On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 12:27 PM, Google Talk talk-nore...@google.comwrote: --- You've been invited by Kay Schenk to use Google Talk. If you already have a Google account, login to Gmail and accept this chat invitation: http://mail.google.com/mail/invite/ANGjdJ_eZNoH9Ka6VHcMNXzDzn3BHS3eyz6GRivX-rgg4d9c3_P6YTtfUZZVgHRPYuXXka3ME8a2a6mkfwxe To sign up for a Google account and get started with Google Talk, you can visit: http://mail.google.com/mail/invite/ANGjdJ9jcWwgrN2YVVI9QkT3EowXcdF4M2kX-gfNXzoaRg6Xt2vg4VmG6qeakogOLkVWs9zFUWO5_93-UVB9?pc=en-rf---a Learn more at: http://www.google.com/intl/en/landing/accounts/ Thanks, The Google Team - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Where do I download Open Office 4.0?
On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 10:34 AM, sebb seb...@gmail.com wrote: On 23 August 2013 14:55, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 8:47 AM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: Hi Kit, Rory gave you another link that should work. But so we can debug things more on our end, could you let us know was operating system you are using, and what browser version? Response, off list, was that she was using Win 7 64 bit and IE 10. Whatever client is used to access the page, ISTM that the download box should still be present. It isn't present for me under IE8 on WinXP, but this is my office system and javascript is probably turned off. Don
Fwd: Open Office 4.0
Forwarding this from the l10n list because of the bad link report. Don -- Forwarded message -- From: Susanne Demant susa...@sd-hobby.dk Date: Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 1:22 PM Subject: Open Office 4.0 To: l...@openoffice.apache.org Hi, I just want to tell you, that I - although OpenOffice 4.0 is not with danish translation - want to download. How come I can't deside wether or not to download the english version? This kind of piss me of ;-) I would love to explore the new release, but no, I am in Denmark, and then I dont understand english? Yah right!! I guess you guys have a great answer :-) The link to the danish site on this site dont work http://www.openoffice.org/**download/ http://www.openoffice.org/download/- it links to http://da.openoffice.org/ and the danish site is http://www.openoffice.org/da/ ;-) You are all doing a great job, and I am looking forward to new 4.xx releases in danish, I will try to find the latest release in danish, just becaurse there is no alternative :-/ Kindly Susanne Demant Danmark --**--**- To unsubscribe, e-mail: l10n-unsubscribe@openoffice.**apache.orgl10n-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: l10n-help@openoffice.apache.**orgl10n-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Should download pages *require* Javascript?
On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 5:29 AM, sebb seb...@gmail.com wrote: On 20 August 2013 01:20, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 6:39 PM, Marcus (OOo) marcus.m...@wtnet.de wrote: Am 08/19/2013 09:51 PM, schrieb sebb: On 19 August 2013 20:27, Rob Weirrobw...@apache.org wrote: On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 2:14 PM, Andrea Pescettipesce...@apache.org wrote: On 19/08/2013 sebb wrote: Note that the page http://www.openoffice.org/download/other.htmlalso requires Javascript! This is not so good. The noscript option should direct the user to http://www.apache.org/dyn/aoo-closer.cgi/openoffice/ (users who disable JavaScript are likely to be able to browse the FTP-like structure they will see there). Whatever method is chosen, I think it should be possible to download AOO without the use of Javascript. It should also be possible to download OpenOffice in the cases where JavaScript parsing breaks, i.e., we should have alternative download links that are always visible (working JavaScript, broken Javascript, no JavaScript). I think this is the key insight. There are actually three cases to consider: 1) Java script disabled 2) Javascript is supported, but not working with our page 3) Javascript working fine. Some of the more recent reports are about #2. These are older versions of Internet Explorer, e.g., I.E. 6. Anoscript block will not help in this case. But if it is possible to detect the broken Javascript without crashing, then it would be possible to treat the browser as if it did not have Javascript. Right, has anybody an idea how to detect such broken JS engines? From this test it looks like the main issue is Internet Explorer before I.E. 8: http://browsershots.org/http://www.openoffice.org/download/ One approach is to see if you can code around that error and get it to work correctly on older I.E. installs. Another approach is to use one of these techniques to detect older I.E. and then fall back to a non-script page: http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms537509%28v=vs.85%29.aspx It might also be possible to use the HTTP headers User-Agent and Accepts-Language as a backstop for when Javascript is not available. This might need some Infra config support. -Rob Marcus Just me-too-ing here...I can't get to the download list right now from my office, with IE8, scripting disabled and a somewhat draconian firewall. I can get to SourceForge, though. Should there be an If that doesn't work, click here link, perhaps pointing to...? http://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/files/4.0.0/binaries/ Don
Re: Should download pages *require* Javascript?
On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 2:34 PM, Marcus (OOo) marcus.m...@wtnet.de wrote: In the past it was, sorry, a pain in the ass to keep this webpage up-to-date as there were always changes in paths, version number and languages (new were included, old were dropped out). Copy paste errors were often occurring. Now it is much easier to update it as the table is generated via JS logic and this logic is filled via a few variables. If it were turned into a static page, I think it might be a better alternative to the ASF mirror structure. IMHO this wouldn't change anything, except for JS or no-JS. So, it seems we need an intermediate step between the green box and the big table. Can the table be generated server-side, perhaps, by a PHP script? Don
Re: Should download pages *require* Javascript?
On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 3:22 PM, Marcus (OOo) marcus.m...@wtnet.de wrote: Am 08/20/2013 08:37 PM, schrieb Donald Whytock: On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 2:34 PM, Marcus (OOo)marcus.m...@wtnet.de wrote: In the past it was, sorry, a pain in the ass to keep this webpage up-to-date as there were always changes in paths, version number and languages (new were included, old were dropped out). Copy paste errors were often occurring. Now it is much easier to update it as the table is generated via JS logic and this logic is filled via a few variables. If it were turned into a static page, I think it might be a better alternative to the ASF mirror structure. IMHO this wouldn't change anything, except for JS or no-JS. So, it seems we need an intermediate step between the green box and the big table. Can the table be generated server-side, perhaps, by a PHP script? Good question but I don't know. Mostly it depends on: - can the script grab the content of the JS variables from the webpage? Not sure I understand this question. A PHP script would be pushing HTML (and perhaps embedded JS) from the server...it runs before the JS, and therefore before any JS variables get set. Where does the JS now get the data to build the table? - which server do you mean? Whatever server is hosting the download page. A PHP script is server-side and can serve as a webpage -- rather than having an index.html, you'd have an index.php. - who is willing/able to change it into PHP? This is the biggest question, really. :) I believe I'm able to do the PHP, though you'd probably want matching CSS, which isn't really a strong point for me. Don
Re: Should download pages *require* Javascript?
On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 3:52 PM, Marcus (OOo) marcus.m...@wtnet.de wrote: Am 08/20/2013 09:45 PM, schrieb Donald Whytock: On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 3:22 PM, Marcus (OOo)marcus.m...@wtnet.de wrote: - which server do you mean? Whatever server is hosting the download page. A PHP script is server-side and can serve as a webpage -- rather than having an index.html, you'd have an index.php. OK, seems without Infra support this isn't possbile. You're currently editing server-side files in order to change the embedded javascript, right? What files are you modifying? Don
Re: Should download pages *require* Javascript?
On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 5:06 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: The trick is to work with the Apache CMS. We already have a system where source files (like MDText and HTML) are converted into HTML which we then review and publish. That's how our templating works. The glue is Perl. And I bet Python is used behind the scenes for the MDText conversion. This is not interactive on a per-request basis. But if we can think of this as a data-driven problem where we have an XML (or CSV or some other structured data file) that we want to convert into some web content like JSON or HTML, and have the web content automatically regenerated whenever the underlying data file changes, then we might consider the CMS as part of the solution. This could work well for our update notification scripts as well. These should also probably be data drive. And I bet they would use some of the same data that is needed for the download pages. Wouldn't it be cool to update an XML file describing our release files and then have it automatically generate the download page logic as well as the update notification XML's? It'd probably be good to have the info in generic XML anyway. That could be AJAX-ed by JS client-side or used server-side to dynamically generate the page. Don
Re: [IDEA] Back to School with AOO blog post
On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 4:40 PM, Alexandro Colorado j...@oooes.org wrote: On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 3:12 PM, fred juan diaz diaz_frede...@yahoo.fr wrote: En date de : Ven 9.8.13, Regina Henschel rb.hensc...@t-online.de a On 06.08.2013 at 5:10 PM, sebb seb...@gmail.com wrote:On 6 August 2013 15:56, Donald Whytock dwhyt...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Aug 6, 2013 at 10:50 AM, Ian Lynch ianrly...@gmail.com wrote: On 6 August 2013 15:40, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: It is that time of year now: back to school. I wonder if this could make a good blog post. So...did this ever happen? Don
Re: Microsoft Censors OpenOffice Download Links
On Fri, Aug 16, 2013 at 10:42 AM, Hagar Delest hagar.del...@laposte.netwrote: I've downloaded OOo several times in the past through torrents because it was much faster. And I noticed that my file was also shared at a not negligible rate. I think this is something worth implementing. I'm not from a generation that is used to download but I think that many (young) users look at this way first. Hagar Objet : Re: Microsoft Censors OpenOffice Download Links 2013/8/16 : Reported on the forum: http://torrentfreak.com/microsoft-censors-openoffice-download-links-130814/?utm_source=dlvr.itutm_medium=twitter The URLs mentioned in the article look scary to me, with version that never really existed, like 3.3.2. As you know there are several websites that claim to offer OpenOffice downloads but then bundle it with adware. I wouldn't assume that torrents are any safer. It would be worth asking if anyone really needs AOO torrents and whether we should look at providing official ones. -Rob Hagar We discussed this last year in a thread titled BItTorrents -- do we care? last posted to on 16 October 2012. General consensus seemed to be favorable. What's Infra's take on bittorrent? Don
Re: Microsoft Censors OpenOffice Download Links
On Fri, Aug 16, 2013 at 12:32 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Fri, Aug 16, 2013 at 12:18 PM, Hagar Delest hagar.del...@laposte.net wrote: Objet : Re: Microsoft Censors OpenOffice Download Links Not to speak for them, but I suspect they would point out the fact that we there are over 100 Apache projects, and they all seem to do fine with distribution via the mirrors. Personally, I'd wonder where this rates with us in terms of priority. Compare to, say, forum stability improvements, code signing for our installers, and further buildbot coverage, where do torrents rate? Of course it's not a priority. But think about the mechanism of torrent: once it's initiated, it spreads by itself without any input needed. I'm not sure we need powerful resources for the seeds, we can even limit the number of uploads I guess. And then let the torrent spread among users. A forum was not in the field of the ASF scope. The AOO forum is still doing and rather well, there is a lot of cooperation and feedback when information is forwarded from on side to the other. So why not make a torrent a first for ASF? Please remember that you're handling an office suite, it's not a niche program, it's something that is heavily popular, you tell it yourself when you inform the list about the millions downloads. Ubuntu offers torrents for example. AOO is popular. Torrents are not. I bet that 1% of downloads were of torrent, when OOo had them. Remember, a common question from users is I just downloaded OpenOffice and now I cannot find it. So skill level of typical user is not ideal for explaining how to download via P2P. If ASF does not want to do new things because no other ASF project has even tried, then I'm rather worried about the future. Especially when on the other side LibreOffice has a so efficient team, very good at marketing their project. 1. Maybe ask LibreOffice how many torrent downloads they see? That would be an interesting number to know. 2. This is not a question of avoiding doing something new. It is a question of prioritization based on cost and benefit. 3. Torrents are not even new. They are old technology. 4. There is nothing to prevent someone from seeding a torrent for AOO today, right now if you thought it was important. It does not need to come from Apache. Infra could conceivably create torrents for every ASF distro file, probably on an automated basis. Were that to happen, the effort by the AOO TLP would be nil and the effort proportionally related to AOO would be negligible. Of course, this could take some significant setup effort on Infra's part, and if only the AOO torrents were ever used someone might say, Why are we doing this for only one TLP? It would be best if ASF could do it so as to add legitimacy to the torrent. Otherwise, if AOO itself was doing it, it would need to be on a respected/respectable torrent server, such that we could point to it and say, That is the official AOO torrent. Maybe a cheap 10gig VM? Don
Re: OpenOffice Distribution
On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 2:12 PM, Primeira Escolha - Informática Eletrónica paulo.al...@primeiraescolha.pt wrote: Good day. ** ** I’m Paulo Lopes Alves, from Portugal and I would like to know the following: ** ** I own a little computers company and I would like to be an official distributor of OpenOffice. What do I need to do to become one? ** ** Best regards ** ** *___ * *Paulo Lopes Alves* * Telem.: 966 188 631* *paulo.al...@primeiraescolha.pt* * *[image: rsz_rsz_primeiraescolha_logo]** *Rua das Alfarrobeirasn º 60 - Bicesse * 2645-310 Alcabideche * Telefone: 309 962 350* *www.primeiraescolha.com * www.primeiraescolha.pt * ge...@primeiraescolha.com* ** ** Hi Paulo... In the simplest case, you download copies of the installation files and hand them out as you please. The files are free to download and distribute as long as you don't change them. If you want to use Apache or OpenOffice trademarks, logos and the like to advertise, you should look at http://openoffice.apache.org/trademarks.html . Don
Re: [IDEA] Back to School with AOO blog post
On Tue, Aug 6, 2013 at 10:50 AM, Ian Lynch ianrly...@gmail.com wrote: On 6 August 2013 15:40, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: It is that time of year now: back to school. I wonder if this could make a good blog post. Of course, AOO being free is core part of the story. But even better would be if we had a top 10 list of ways in which AOO is great for school. 1. Use the same software at home and at school without worrying about licensing 2. Participate in the AOO community and provide useful things for others while you learn 3. Fix broken Word documents 4. Provide choice and promote transferrable skills by using more than one type of tool 5. Get a qualification referenced to the European Qualifications Framework 6. Fits nicely in a small/low income community's school budget. Don
Re: Downloading latest version of Open office
On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 8:51 PM, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote: Hi Ed, You should never need a phone number or make a call to download or otherwise activate Apache OpenOffice. Please download from http://www.openoffice.org/download Regards, Dave On Jul 31, 2013, at 5:12 PM, Edward Reyes wrote: i think you guys blew it this time. T-Mobile will not complete a call without the prefix ONE, which means the number cannot be verified unless you spell out the complete number. e.g. 1-626-422-4343. Thank you, Ed The original email had no context, and I can't find an email it was supposedly replying to. A weird attempt at phishing? Besides, T-Mobile works fine for me without the 1. Don
Re: Web Development program?
Depends on what you mean by a web development program. There's webpage editors that you can use to prepare HTML files that can be placed on a webserver; Dreamweaver is a big commercial name for this. There are some free editors too, but I don't know if any of them have commercial-grade functionality. You may be interested in the following links for this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Website_builder http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTML_editor There are also packages that you can load onto a webserver that run as web applications and act as a website, which allow you to add and modify content online. Have a look at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web_content_management_system You can start at these links and find lists of software packages. Please note that this is not an official recommendation or endorsement of any of them by the Apache Software Foundation. Good luck... Don On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 4:46 PM, Stephen Guesman greenworks...@gmail.comwrote: Dear Folks - Does AOO have (or can recommend) a free web development program? I have a domain name and a host, I just need a program to develop the site. Seems like all the 'free web site builders' are selling the hosting and/or domain registry. Stephen Guesman GreenWorks Design/Build greenworks...@gmail.com 205-919-6231
Re: [REVIEW] draft blog.
On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 5:59 PM, janI j...@apache.org wrote: Hi A while ago we discussed to get more bloggers. Since I have 1 years birthday in a couple of days, I have made a blog. I am not a native speaker, so I assume there are some mistakes in there, feel free to correct them. But more importantly, is this a post we as community would like to make public ? https://blogs.apache.org/preview/OOo/?previewEntry=developer_in_aoo_1year_celebration Please be gentle this is my first blog. rgds jan I. Sometimes, when I'm proofing material from an EFL speaker, I find myself inclined to not try to fix certain things because they look naturally authentic and sincere. Excessive proofing runs the risk of editing out some of the raw passion and enthusiasm being expressed. Especially in cases like this, where passion and enthusiasm are sort of the point of the blog post. But I can give it a shot, if you like...? Don
Re: problem with new logo
On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 2:07 PM, Alexandro Colorado j...@oooes.org wrote: The problem is simple the Sans Pro font doesnt display properly when rendered by other engines. font-family=Source Sans Pro Light I recomend a simple edit, to change from Fonts to Paths, that way the nodes and form is statically set, the render would be numerical and will be more accurate. I generate one here: http://imagebin.org/265395 I tried downloading and working with the image at that link but ran into problems. Chrome didn't want to open it at all until I replaced the TM character with the string TM and shrank the font size to fit. After that, the logo was still messed up in Draw in the same way. Don
problem with new logo
Hi all... I'm trying to work with the .svg for the new logo, but I'm having problems. In Draw, on two different machines, both 3.4.1 and 4.0, it looks like the following: https://docs.google.com/file/d/0Bwli-fLYVnjtdnlMdkdoMXN5cG8/edit?usp=sharing Would this be a problem with Draw or the .svg? Don
Re: problem with new logo
On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 12:54 PM, Donald Whytock dwhyt...@apache.orgwrote: Hi all... I'm trying to work with the .svg for the new logo, but I'm having problems. In Draw, on two different machines, both 3.4.1 and 4.0, it looks like the following: https://docs.google.com/file/d/0Bwli-fLYVnjtdnlMdkdoMXN5cG8/edit?usp=sharing Would this be a problem with Draw or the .svg? Don BTW, it displays fine in (of all things) IE8.
Re: problem with new logo
On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 1:46 PM, Kay Schenk kay.sch...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 10:36 AM, Kay Schenk kay.sch...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 9:54 AM, Donald Whytock dwhyt...@apache.org wrote: Hi all... I'm trying to work with the .svg for the new logo, but I'm having problems. In Draw, on two different machines, both 3.4.1 and 4.0, it looks like the following: https://docs.google.com/file/d/0Bwli-fLYVnjtdnlMdkdoMXN5cG8/edit?usp=sharing Would this be a problem with Draw or the .svg? Don I used the optim.svg from: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/openoffice/ooo-site/trunk/content/marketing/art/galleries/logos/aoo-working/ to render the logo for the websites -- 300 (wide) x136 then cropped in two directions. The svg came up fine for me in Gimp on Linux. That said, since I'm not and svg expert, I don't know if the svg has problems or not. Sorry, I can't be more help. Ok, re AOO4 Draw -- yes, this is what I get also...h I'd used Draw to be apropos. I never expected irony. :)
Re: Release coordination proposal
On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 3:55 PM, Marcus (OOo) marcus.m...@wtnet.de wrote: Am 07/22/2013 09:45 PM, schrieb Rob Weir: 2) What should the legacy link go to now? Is 3.3.0 still legacy? If so, what is 3.4.1? We might need to reword and restructure that destination page, but I think it is OK for now. In this context I understand legacy release as a release from a former instance - here Sun/Oracle. With the planned EOL for 3.4 this can be cleaned-up, too. Thought the planned EOL was for 3.3. Not that an EOL for 3.4 doesn't make sense, given 3.4.1... Don
Re: [RELEASE]: availability of uploads and synchronize SF mirrors
On Sun, Jul 21, 2013 at 6:42 AM, Marcus (OOo) marcus.m...@wtnet.de wrote: Am 07/21/2013 02:10 AM, schrieb Marcus (OOo): Am 07/20/2013 12:45 PM, schrieb Marcus (OOo): Here a little update what I can see: 1. https://sourceforge.net/**projects/openofficeorg.mirror/** files/4.0.0/binaries/https://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/files/4.0.0/binaries/ The builds seem to be completely received on SourceForge. So, for me it's done. 2. http://www.apache.org/dist/ No openoffice directory and therefore no binary and source builds. Maybe Juergen and Infra are still working on this. I'll look again today evening/tomorrow morning (European timezone). While the night the sync has taken place and the AOO 4.0 release is now fully available here: http://www.apache.org/dist/**openoffice/http://www.apache.org/dist/openoffice/ Thanks to the magic helper. Marcus I looked in http://www.apache.org/dist/openoffice/4.0.0/binaries/en-US/ but didn't see any actual binaries...just hash keys and rather small .asc files. Am I looking in the wrong place? Don
Re: [RESULT][VOTE]: Release OpenOffice 4.0 (RC2)
On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 11:02 AM, Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@gmail.comwrote: The vote period to release the RC2 (based on release branch AOO40, revision 1503704) as Apache OpenOffice 4.0 has ended. The ballot result in 24 votes, 24 +1 votes including 14 binding PMC member votes. 3 binding +1 votes are necessary for the release. That means the ballot closed successful to release the RC2 as AOO 4.0 Vote tally +1 Jan Iversen (binding) +1 Keith McKenna +1 Olaf Felka +1 Sylvain Denis +1 Marco A.G. Pinto +1 V Stuart Foote +1 Samer Mansour +1 Ricardo Berlasso (binding) +1 Rory O'Farrell +1 Rob Weir (binding) +1 Shengfeng Liu +1 Kay Schenk (binding) +1 Marcus Lange (binding) +1 Regina Henschel (binding) +1 Andrew Rist (binding) +1 Donald Harbison (binding) +1 Xuacu +1 Juergen Schmidt (binding) +1 Yuzhen Fan +1 Andrea Pescetti (binding) +1 Armin Le Grand (binding) +1 Herbert Duerr (binding) +1 Kazunari Hirano (binding) +1 Andre Fischer (binding) Thanks Juergen Imacat voted -1. Is he non-binding? Don
Re: Draft Blog Post: Rejected
On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 10:14 AM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: A quick and timely post: https://blogs.apache.org/preview/OOo/?previewEntry=rejected Regards, -Rob Apache OpenOffice 4.0: Quality worth waiting for. Makes me think of standing in line for way too long at KFC, thinking of their slogan...There's fast food...and then there's KFC. I like it. Self-deprecation FTW. Reinforces for people that AOO is people-built. Don
Re: Crowdsourcing wanted features for OpenOffice?
Nothing initiated by AOO itself, but nothing preventing someone from starting one on their own. Don On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 12:32 PM, webassistant5 webassistant5@gmail.com wrote: Hello, I know several other open-source projects are offering bounties and crowdsourcing for feature requests. In this way the money is pooled and given to open-source developers to implement quality new features for their programs. Is there any current implementation of this for OpenOffice? E.g. PubSoft ( https://www.pubsoft.org/**pubsoft.py https://www.pubsoft.org/pubsoft.py) KickStarter / IndieGogo / etc. --**--**- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@openoffice.**apache.orgdev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: New Product and collaboration
On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 6:08 PM, Hans Langsholt langsh...@gmail.com wrote: I have a Product idea and are looking for partners and affiliates. I have a idea of a webservice which could benefit the OpenOffice Product also indirctly if it get a succes. I am looking for different partners to show investors that the product is something that really can be a hit. Without say With it is without a NDA I can say this: - Service is free for users. - Companies (not just webcompanies) will pay to use the service, this to offer customers this needed service. - Without developed a real Income model reveneau can be made from ads, and sales from webshops that has deals With. What can the Collaboration be: - Shares in Return for developement - Exchange of ads by using open Office as one of the providers of Reading the products offeres or other. - Develope the product togheter. Bottomline is there any possibility of some type of Collaboration? kindly regards Hans j Langsholt The answer to this, I believe, is lengthy and involved, but amounts to several flavors of no. Apache OpenOffice currently belongs to the Apache Software Foundation, a non-profit corporation. It has no shares to trade, and I don't believe it's equipped to deal with shares of stock given it. Apache sites don't run ads, and don't host them. Development on Apache OpenOffice is done by volunteers, who do work on the project on an unpaid basis, presumably in conjunction with holding other jobs. There are no employees, therefore there are no employees to task with working on outside projects. For this reason, Apache can't be hired to do work. I doubt the Apache OpenOffice project can even give any sort of recommendation or endorsement regarding your project, as the project doesn't even give recommendation or endorsement of endeavors directly tied to the project in the interests of fairness and objectiveness. All that being said, Apache volunteers aren't bound to any sort of exclusivity, and can partner with you as they please in your endeavor. They just can't do it in the name of the Apache Foundation. Don
Re: Coordination on AOO 4.0 Release Announcement
Will the new distributor page be opened up in conjunction with the new release? Don
Re: Draft blog post: Facebook and the growing fanbase
Made some changes for grammar and spelling, and added a link to the reference to the dev mailing list. I have the original offline. Does the blog have revision history? Don On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 3:11 AM, Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@gmail.comwrote: On 7/2/13 9:01 AM, Raphael Bircher wrote: Hi all https://blogs.apache.org/preview/OOo/?previewEntry=facebook_fanpage_and_the_growing This is my first blogdraft for Apache ever. I will add a chart about the growing number too, as soon as I know how to add images to Roller. I am sure some native speakers can help with correcting the text. But anyway I also noticed a growing activity there and social media is indeed important to reach out to our users. Juergen Greetings Raphael - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Draft blog post: With Apache OpenOffice you get what you don't pay for
On Sun, Jun 16, 2013 at 9:36 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: https://blogs.apache.org/preview/OOo/?previewEntry=with_apache_openoffice_you_get Supplies are limited...technically true, if you're trying to avoid traffic overload on the link... Don
Re: Draft blog post: Selling and Buying OpenOffice CDs
Okay, got it now. Under the circs, then, do you still want it proofed? On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 10:57 AM, Donald Whytock dwhyt...@gmail.com wrote: 502 Bad Gateway On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 10:03 AM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: https://blogs.apache.org/preview/OOo/?previewEntry=selling_and_buying_openoffice_cds Another FAQ-type post, since we get regular questions on this topic. But I see Kay has also started a discussion on the list related to reviving the distributor page on the website. So I'll hold-off posting this to see if that discussion leads to something new to tell the sellers. Regards, -Rob - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Draft blog post: Selling and Buying OpenOffice CDs
On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 11:33 AM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 11:03 AM, Donald Whytock dwhyt...@apache.org wrote: Okay, got it now. Under the circs, then, do you still want it proofed? At this point, looking more for content/message review. Does this answer the questions that we are receiving? Any additional points we should make? Checksum verification, perhaps? Apache does not warrant or guarantee anything Not Invented Here, so to make certain your purchased copy is correct you can follow the steps linked here?
Re: Draft blog post: Selling and Buying OpenOffice CDs
On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 11:48 AM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 11:39 AM, Donald Whytock dwhyt...@apache.org wrote: On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 11:33 AM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 11:03 AM, Donald Whytock dwhyt...@apache.org wrote: Okay, got it now. Under the circs, then, do you still want it proofed? At this point, looking more for content/message review. Does this answer the questions that we are receiving? Any additional points we should make? Checksum verification, perhaps? Apache does not warrant or guarantee anything Not Invented Here, so to make certain your purchased copy is correct you can follow the steps linked here? That's an important one. Unfortunately getting someone (non-Linux user) to install an MD5 checksum tool is non-trivial and as such will tend not to be done. Something I've wondered ... Is it possible at all to implement a checksum calculator that runs locally in Javascript? The tool would ask the user to browse for their download, calc the checksum, and then, based on the filename, retrieve the expected checksum from the website and compare the two. Until we make it as easy as that I think end-users will never do it. I like that. Since all Apache downloads I've seen have MD5 keys, this seems like something that would be useful foundation-wide. An Infra request/suggestion?
Re: Logo next steps
On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 6:26 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 11:16 PM, Kevin Grignon kevingrignon...@gmail.com wrote: I propose we take a final pass to prepare the logo for production. The vector artwork should be converted curves, the ff elements need to be combined, and some font kerning adjusted. Then we should document the logo on the AOO UX wiki. Who is preparing all the new graphics? Whoever volunteers. But if you have some specific changes in mind it would probably be faster to make them yourself and post a new SVG (or sent it to me) than to describe it in enough detail that I, without expertise in the area, can make the changes myself. In any case, if we are going to make changes to the master logo then let's do that first, before creating the bitmaps. Pardon if I missed this in earlier discussions, but...is the new logo going to apply to 4.0 and onward? Is it okay if 3.4.1 is associated with the old logo? Don
Re: Draft blog post: When will OpenOffice version X be released?
On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 5:21 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: https://blogs.apache.org/preview/OOo/?previewEntry=when_will_openoffice_version_x Since we get this question frequently, I thought it would be good to have a canonical response we can point people to. It needs some editing, but mainly looking for content feedback initially. There's a comma I'd move, but otherwise the only real comment I have is that I'd use N and N+1 instead of N-1 and N. I personally think that'd be more intuitively understandable to laypeople. I gather this or a permalink to it will go in the FAQ? Don
Re: Blog about sidebar
On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 3:21 AM, Andre Fischer awf@gmail.com wrote: Changed that to A little known feature of OpenOffice is that extensions can provide panels for the task panel (now called sidebar). I am not sure if parenthesis and dot/period should be interchanged but .) just looks too wrong for me. Shall I change it? No, ). is correct. The bit in parentheses is affecting a piece of the sentence directly, and therefore is part of the sentence. It's not like quotes. What would really look wrong is .).. And that sentence I just typed is technically wrong too. Don
Re: [VOTE] Logo selection for Apache OpenOffice 4.0
On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 10:57 AM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: Everyone is welcome to vote, though only PMC votes are binding. My non-binding vote...Of the choices offered, putting Kevin's edgier birds toward the bottom and Chris' bolder font toward the top. Chris' looks the most scalably workable, equally attractive on books, CD covers, websites and convention banners. My ranked preferences for the AOO 4.0 logo are: 1st Choice: Chris Rottensteiner 2nd Choice: Samer Mansour 3rd Choice: none of the above 4th Choice: Kevin Grignon A 5th Choice: Kevin Grignon B
Re: Blog about sidebar
On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 11:00 AM, Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie wrote: On Fri, 31 May 2013 16:52:33 +0200 Andre Fischer awf@gmail.com wrote: snip I applied the rest of the changes (some of my errors are so embarrassing). Thank you very much. -Andre If I could write any other language than my own as well as you do, I'd be very proud! something is either new - something either is new both in Apache OpenOffice (and OpenOffice.org before that) as well as in Symphony. - both in Apache OpenOffice (and OpenOffice.org before that) and in Symphony. or in Apache OpenOffice (and OpenOffice.org before that) as well as in Symphony. Paragraph starting with The property panels that let you for example: there's a mix of tone here, with the use of could. Is it about things that were done, or things that have yet to be done? The overall tone of the section suggests it's about things that were done, so could items don't really fit. The third group are non-modal dialogs - (recommending, to get around is/are) The third group consists of non-modal dialogs extensions can add new decks - (suggesting) extensions can now add new decks there may no yet be a panel - there may not yet be a panel Seconding Rory on the what the user, you, is currently doing. Much of the rest of the article talks in terms of you, and you so close to is looks a bit awkward. I'd go with what you are currently doing. where busy getting the project going - were busy getting the project going Even downstream has started -- Is downstream in this sense as a noun common usage in the AOO user community? It may need expansion, such as adaptations, derivative works, etc. how anyoing - how annoying panels for the sidebar. The old sidebar. -- Since it wasn't called the sidebar before, this might distract the reader with the question, WHAT old sidebar? How about panels for the task pane (the old sidebar). One last thing...Did you mean for the headers to all be the same size? Don
Re: Next steps for AOO 4.0 Logo Selection
On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 6:27 PM, Hagar Delest hagar.del...@laposte.netwrote: Le 30/05/2013 22:53, Rob Weir a écrit : I think the important thing is to realize that long-standing OpenOffice users, like you and me, have strong opinions and perceptions on this that are not necessarily reflective of the views of the broader user base. We're too close and too familiar with the old logo. So I discount your views on this just as I discount my own. I look more toward the survey for an unbiased view. OK but we should allow the users to decide if they want to keep the current logo. If it's not among the other candidates, it denies this right to the users. I thought the current logo was among the surveyed logos...? Don
Re: Next steps for AOO 4.0 Logo Selection
On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 1:12 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton dennis.hamil...@acm.org wrote: The only way I can visualize the book notion is that I am seeing an unfolded piece of paper. If this is two facing pages of an open book, the problem is there is nothing to suggest the rest of the book. It could be bookish with the addition of a cover -- a widened dark V underneath the bird. But of course then you lose the birdishness. Alternately, extend the wing tips into scroll spirals. But that risks failing at bookishness AND birdishness. So the flat orb is likely to be the new standard? Will the round orb then be deliberately retired? Don
Is 3.4.1 still incubating?
I see on the downloads page (http://openoffice.apache.org/downloads.html) that the current version is listed as *Current Version 3.4.1 (incubating). *Since 3.4.1 is the current official release, and since incubating has more to do with Apache internal policies than the release itself, should the release still be called (incubating)? Could shorten the actual filenames too, but I suppose we're stuck with those for now...? Don
Re: Update of pages oo.o credits
On Mon, May 20, 2013 at 3:20 PM, Albino B Neto bin...@apache.org wrote: Hi This pages about credits of members [1], were did the last updated: 2010-11-15, long time. 1 - http://www.openoffice.org/welcome/credits.html Think need update. I has read in others emails for a list of volunteers, could improvements here also. Albino Plus the talk of project leads. Is this a list of Oracle employees? Don
Re: draft blog post
On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 11:49 AM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: https://blogs.apache.org/preview/OOo/?previewEntry=apache_openoffice_one_year_50 I'd like to get this out today. -Rob - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org pleased pleased - pleased (unless, of course, we're just really, really pleased) noticeably summer lull - noticeable summer lull unit of 1000 - units of 1000 sight growth in Windows - slight growth in Windows (?) Also, I myself find the yellow line for Opera in the Trend in Browsers graph kinda hard to see. Don
Request for Blog Access
Hi Marcus/Dave... I have a Roller account now, and my proposal went through for blog access. Please grant blog access to dwhytock. Thanks... Don
Re: Request for Blog Access
Got it. I'm in. Thanks. Don On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 6:49 PM, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote: Hi Don, You should have received your invitation. Regards, Dave On May 15, 2013, at 3:16 PM, Donald Whytock wrote: Hi Marcus/Dave... I have a Roller account now, and my proposal went through for blog access. Please grant blog access to dwhytock. Thanks... Don - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: [proposal] Accept Donald Whytock as blog editor
Not seeing any nays, I'll go ahead and petition Infra. Thanks, all. Don On Fri, May 10, 2013 at 3:51 PM, Juergen Schmidt jogischm...@gmail.comwrote: Am Donnerstag, 9. Mai 2013 um 20:59 schrieb Donald Whytock: This is a lazy-concensus proposal to add me (Donald Whytock, dwhyt...@apache.org) as a blog editor. If there are no objections by Monday I'll open a JIRA. Thanks... +1 definitely a good addition, looking forward to some good blogs Juergen Don
Re: OO CD Distribution
On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 7:15 PM, Kay Schenk kay.sch...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 12:02 PM, Donald Whytock dwhyt...@apache.org wrote: Is there a larger version of the orb graphic? Something, say, big enough to use as a CD label background? Don The svg file for the flat orb can be found at: http://www.openoffice.org/images/AOO_logos/svg/orb.svg and resized. If you're thinking about using the shaded orb that's in the web site logo, I don't find just that orb in svg format anyway. Maybe Michael Acevedo could provide us with one as he supplied the orb+lettering logo we're now using. I think the the svg for this complete logo is at: http://www.openoffice.org/images/AOO_logos/svg/OOo_Website_v2_copy.svg (see additional info at: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+3.x+-+Logo+Explorations The flat orb works nicely, thanks. At least for a prototype. Don
Re: [WWW]The AOO blog gives a 502 Bad Gateway error
Working now, but very slow on the load. Perhaps that's what's just short of failing from a hit burst? Don On Fri, May 10, 2013 at 11:15 AM, janI j...@apache.org wrote: On 10 May 2013 16:56, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Fri, May 10, 2013 at 10:28 AM, RGB ES rgb.m...@gmail.com wrote: As in subject: the blog site is not working: Bad Gateway The proxy server received an invalid response from an upstream server. Apache/2.0.63 Server at blogs.apache.org Port 443 Appears to back up now. I don't know if it is a coincidence or not, but our blog seems to go down whenever we have a high profile announcement. We saw this with the 3.4.0 and 3.4.1 announcement as well. In this case it went down right after I publicized the logo survey results to Twitter, Facebook, Google+ and the announcement mailing list. The blog comes back eventually, but this does blunt the effect of any announcement, since many readers will just see the error and move on, never returning later to try again. The problem, as I see it, seems to be that blog.a.o goes through erebus, together with a lot of other sites, and it seems erebus doesnt like burst of traffic. Switches have been changes within the last 24 hours, causing some of the delays. I wonder whether it worth looking at putting Wordpress onto a VM and using that, maybe mapping it to blog.openoffice.org? I use WordPress on my personal blog and with caching enabled I've withstood several Slashdot'ed posts without going down. So it can handle the load. I think we should make a strategy for www, blog, cwiki and mwiki so we get feewer more integrated products, that work together. If we do that, we could put it on 1 vm, and have a lot less maintenance. that said, I have good experience with wordpress...and would love to use it not only for blog but also www. rgds jan I. -Rob Regards Ricardo - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Draft Blog Post: Results of Apache OpenOffice 4.0 Logo Survey
Couple minor typos...Is there anything I need to do to get access to the blogs page? Is it something other than my Apache ID? Don On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 1:14 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: https://blogs.apache.org/preview/OOo/?previewEntry=results_of_apache_openoffice_4 I was able to get comments from each designer except from Chris R (no contact info available) and Robin (no response to emails). Regards, -Rob - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Draft Blog Post: Results of Apache OpenOffice 4.0 Logo Survey
On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 2:20 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: The above steps could take a week, or if you have any comments in the current draft, best to send them along via email. Kevin Grignon's paragraph: submissions where enhanced - submissions were enhanced, though this is from a designer's quote Michael Acevedo's paragraph: and find ways to improve - and finding ways to improve or and ways to improve or and how to improve Suggestion: design is from Robin Fowler, takes - design from Robin Fowler takes Don