Re: What rights are given in an SGA

2013-01-21 Thread Kay Schenk
On 01/21/2013 10:59 AM, Rob Weir wrote: Since this has come up recently, I'd like to point you all to a recent thread on the legal-discuss list: http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/www-legal-discuss/201301.mbox/browser If you are not familiar with the SGA form, you can see it here:

Re: [RELEASE]: release schedule/preparation and start voting for AOO 3.4.1 repin

2013-01-22 Thread Kay Schenk
On 01/22/2013 01:41 PM, Marcus (OOo) wrote: Am 01/22/2013 09:06 PM, schrieb Jürgen Schmidt: our plan was to release AOO 3.4.1 on Jan. 24th. I think I have forgot to start the necessary vote in time and plan to do this tomorrow now. hmmm...for some reason, I didn't think we needed a vote on

Re: Bug in AOO 3.4.1 on the Fedora 18

2013-01-22 Thread Kay Schenk
On 01/22/2013 03:38 PM, Albino Biasutti Neto wrote: Hi 2013/1/22 Ariel Constenla-Haile arie...@apache.org: I don't have a fedora18 to test right now, but installing OpenOffice in fedora requires to blacklist LO. If you didn't so, then it might happen that your installation is broken. The

Re: [VOTE]: Release Apache OpenOffice 3.4.1 respin to support 8 new languages

2013-01-23 Thread Kay Schenk
On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 1:13 AM, Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@gmail.comwrote: Hi all, this is a call for vote on releasing a minor respin of Apache OpenOffice 3.4.1 to support 8 new languages (Danish, Swedish, Norwegian Bokmal, Polish, Korean, Basque, Asturian, Scottish Gaelic). The Hungarian

Re: [RELEASE]: release schedule/preparation and start voting for AOO 3.4.1 repin

2013-01-24 Thread Kay Schenk
On 01/23/2013 01:49 PM, Marcus (OOo) wrote: Am 01/23/2013 12:40 AM, schrieb Kay Schenk: On 01/22/2013 01:41 PM, Marcus (OOo) wrote: Am 01/22/2013 09:06 PM, schrieb Jürgen Schmidt: our plan was to release AOO 3.4.1 on Jan. 24th. I think I have forgot to start the necessary vote in time

Re: OpenOffice Base - Multiplying Columns

2013-01-25 Thread Kay Schenk
Hello Eric -- You might find additional help on your problem on the OpenOffice Forums, particularly in the Tutorials section for Base. This said, I am not really familiar with the macro writing capabilities of OpenOffice and how/if this applies to Base, but I do know how this would be done

adding a list of download managers to the download page....was Fwd: Re: Open Office CD

2013-01-25 Thread Kay Schenk
It seems we've had a number of requests for CDs lately due primarily to slow/metered internet connections from users. TJ's post below is good. Until we determine a way to supply CDs, I'm wondering if we should provide either a local page or a link to information about some decent download

Re: I have slow internet connection

2013-01-27 Thread Kay Schenk
On Sun, Jan 27, 2013 at 9:27 AM, Saransh Sharma sara...@theupscale.inwrote: I have a slow internet connection how to build open office on my ubuntu 12.04, what is the data size of the svn, i will be getting the internet speed after a while so suggest me something which way i can work on open

Re: Error Building module hsqldb - Installation Source Code in AOO

2013-01-27 Thread Kay Schenk
On Sat, Jan 26, 2013 at 5:17 PM, Pedro Giffuni p...@apache.org wrote: Hello Alan; My guess is that you are using a localized (non-english) environment, but JDK7 is also a know source of problems ih hsqldb. Hope that helps, Pedro. A quick weird question on this...Is this partially due to

Re: Error Building module hsqldb - Installation Source Code in AOO

2013-01-27 Thread Kay Schenk
On 01/27/2013 12:30 PM, Pedro Giffuni wrote: Hi Kay; - Messaggio originale - Da: Kay Schenk On Sat, Jan 26, 2013 at 5:17 PM, Pedro Giffuni p...@apache.org wrote: Hello Alan; My guess is that you are using a localized (non-english) environment, but JDK7 is also a know

Re: New account

2013-01-29 Thread Kay Schenk
On 01/25/2013 05:03 PM, jorge ivan poot diaz wrote: Hello, my name is Ivan. I study programming in the UTRM (Universidad Tecnológica de la Riviera Maya). I have knowledge in the following languages: C + +, Java, Visual Basic, php, java script. I would like to contribute to the development in

Re: [RESULT] [VOTE]: Release Apache OpenOffice 3.4.1 respin to support 8 new languages

2013-01-29 Thread Kay Schenk
is +16 including 10 PMC member binding +1 and +1 vote from community members. No abstentions, no -1 votes. Vote tally +1 Jan Iversen +1 Olaf Felka (binding) +1 Carl Marcum +1 Albino Biasutti Netto +1 Wolf Harton +1 Kay Schenk (binding) +1 Armin Le Grand (binding) +1 Xuacu +1 Donald Harbison

Re: Build problems with hsqldb

2013-01-29 Thread Kay Schenk
[top posting] Regina -- Hi, yes, we've been discussing this the last few days...maybe take a look at the following thread -- http://markmail.org/message/ls4qtctpmow3e3xi It seems you *might* be able to dump a newer version of hsqldb jar into /ext_sources (your local repository) and see

Re: [RESULT] [VOTE]: Release Apache OpenOffice 3.4.1 respin to support 8 new languages

2013-01-29 Thread Kay Schenk
On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 1:49 PM, Marcus (OOo) marcus.m...@wtnet.de wrote: Am 01/29/2013 10:35 PM, schrieb Kay Schenk: On 01/29/2013 12:50 PM, Rob Weir wrote: On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 3:19 PM, Marcus (OOo) marcus.m...@wtnet.de wrote: Am 01/28/2013 11:52 PM, schrieb Marcus (OOo): Am 01

Re: CMS diff:

2013-01-30 Thread Kay Schenk
We should not apply this one since it removes table borders for the whole site which is not desirable in my opinion. If this is something that is preferred for the de site only, please make a new tables style that applies only to that area. Thanks. On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 12:01 AM, Piotr

Re: Apache OpenOffice in Fedora 19?

2013-01-30 Thread Kay Schenk
On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 7:12 AM, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.orgwrote: Right on the deadline to propose new features for Fedora 19 (it wasn't planned) I submitted Apache OpenOffice as a proposed new feature:

Re: Updated download count

2013-01-31 Thread Kay Schenk
On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 7:24 AM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: This may possibly be useful for those preparing presentation or other materials for Fosdem. We hit 35 million downloads of AOO 3.4 sometime on Tuesday. Current count is: 35,164,736. Regards, -Rob SUPER DUPER! :} --

Re: Coming to openoffice group

2013-02-01 Thread Kay Schenk
On 01/29/2013 10:04 PM, Alejandro I Barranco Gtz. wrote: Hello, I´m Alejandro Barranco, from México city, interested in strech the communication between users and openoffice suite. I could help to to spanish tutorials or something like that. Grettings Alex Hello Alex, and welcome to

Re: Coming to openoffice group

2013-02-01 Thread Kay Schenk
On 01/29/2013 10:04 PM, Alejandro I Barranco Gtz. wrote: Hello, I´m Alejandro Barranco, from México city, interested in strech the communication between users and openoffice suite. I could help to to spanish tutorials or something like that. Grettings Alex Hello again, Alex -- Also,

Re: [bikeshed] I like blue titles.

2013-02-01 Thread Kay Schenk
On 02/01/2013 03:04 PM, Pedro Giffuni wrote: Thank you Dave! It's still perfectly visible without being too scandalous. I like it. Now for a new bikeshed ... I would use Volunteers wanted, instead of Volunteers needed ;). Just kidding ... :). Pedro. Well I like the new blue better than

Re: wiki documentation areas for additional languages

2013-02-04 Thread Kay Schenk
On Mon, Feb 4, 2013 at 10:19 AM, janI j...@apache.org wrote: On 4 February 2013 19:05, Kay Schenk kay.sch...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Feb 2, 2013 at 10:30 AM, janI j...@apache.org wrote: Hi. It is relatively easy for a sysop to create a new language and catagory so it apears

Re: a nice link for our website developers

2013-02-04 Thread Kay Schenk
On Mon, Feb 4, 2013 at 9:55 AM, janI j...@apache.org wrote: Very nice test tool ! thx. jan I. On 4 February 2013 17:39, Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, a colleague gave me a nice link some time ago that I wanted to share it with you before but I forgot it. Go

Re: crashes due to corrupted user profile [was: Re: [IMPORTANT, DISCUSS]: no migration/use of former user profile with AOO 4.0]

2013-02-04 Thread Kay Schenk
On Mon, Feb 4, 2013 at 3:20 AM, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann orwittm...@googlemail.com wrote: Hi, On 17.01.2013 22:06, Hagar Delest wrote: Le 17/01/2013 03:16, Rob Weir a écrit : So let's play detective here, and think like a bug. If something went wrong, what are likely causes? I just

Re: Tutorial Impress

2013-02-05 Thread Kay Schenk
On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 9:30 AM, jorge ivan poot diaz ivan.pootd...@gmail.com wrote: I'm in this tutorial but my question is: 1. What will I do with the codes? 2. How I can do it? Help me! Could you give us more information, the URL link, to the tutorial you're looking at. You may also

Re: Tutorial Impress

2013-02-05 Thread Kay Schenk
On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 11:19 AM, Regina Henschel rb.hensc...@t-online.dewrote: Hi, Kay Schenk schrieb: On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 9:30 AM, jorge ivan poot diaz ivan.pootd...@gmail.com wrote: I'm in this tutorial but my question is: 1. What will I do with the codes? 2. How I can do

Re: Updating Java libraries

2013-02-06 Thread Kay Schenk
On 02/06/2013 06:15 AM, Michael Lam wrote: On 02/06/2013 05:57 AM, Herbert Duerr wrote: I just saw that Ariel had already provided an excellent answer when I had trouble with my mail connection. Sorry about that. On 06.02.2013 11:49, Herbert Duerr wrote: Hi Michael, On 06.02.2013 04:06,

Re: $21 million per day

2013-02-06 Thread Kay Schenk
On 02/06/2013 05:49 AM, Dave Fisher wrote: Hi Rob, This is great information. It makes me very proud to be a part of Apache OpenOffice. yes, indeed! An incredible insight! This is something that should be part of our next board report. It is probably worth discussing if this is press

Re: Apache OpenOffice in Fedora 19?

2013-02-07 Thread Kay Schenk
On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 4:20 AM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 3:13 AM, Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@gmail.com wrote: On 2/7/13 8:59 AM, Andrea Pescetti wrote: Rob Weir wrote: But I would have trademark concerns if a statement like this installed anything but

Re: Apache OpenOffice in Fedora 19?

2013-02-07 Thread Kay Schenk
On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 2:01 PM, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org wrote: Pavel Janík wrote: Is it LO who is infringing on our trademark or is it Fedora who is misusing our trademark for other project? Shouldn't we notify Fedora people politely about this situation and let them (and help

Re: lost files

2013-02-07 Thread Kay Schenk
On Mon, Feb 4, 2013 at 2:43 PM, Shirley Fabel srfa...@cccomm.net wrote: I had corrupt files on my computer and have had to have it stripped 3 times and reloaded. They could not put Microsoft Word back on (it came with the computer) and installed Open Office instead. I still had my files

Re: [bikeshed] I like blue titles.

2013-02-08 Thread Kay Schenk
On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 4:54 PM, Kevin Grignon kevingrignon...@gmail.comwrote: If I understand correctly, the goal is to emphasize the message and links to drive action. Robs suggestion to create a compelling graphic makes sense. Beyond font colour, we can use more info design and visual

Re: java 7 patch

2013-02-09 Thread Kay Schenk
Fred -- Thanks. We'll see if we can get some testing/build with this this coming week. On 02/07/2013 11:32 AM, Fred Ollinger wrote: To whom it may concern, Below is a patch to fix some java7 compilation bugs. Also, this is attached. Index: hsqldb/jdbcDriver.java

Re: Updating Java libraries

2013-02-11 Thread Kay Schenk
On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 9:24 AM, Herbert Duerr h...@apache.org wrote: Hi Michael, On 11.02.2013 17:21, Michael Lam wrote: I have successfully test hsqldb-2.2.9 against the following 4 issues and it is functioning correctly:

Re: Updating Java libraries

2013-02-11 Thread Kay Schenk
On 02/11/2013 02:19 PM, Fred Ollinger wrote: OK, I won't build with java6 anymore then. Fred More than likely no need unless certain sites/people refuse to update to java 1.7. I really can't imagine who that would be at this point. On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 12:30 PM, Fernando Cassia

Re: Two ideas for supporting images as well as text links in announcement area of website

2013-02-14 Thread Kay Schenk
On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 12:24 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: I'd like to run this by as an idea. Today, the announcement at the top of our website is controlled by this file: https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/ooo/ooo-site/trunk/content/brand.mdtext The announce and

Re: Two ideas for supporting images as well as text links in announcement area of website

2013-02-15 Thread Kay Schenk
On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 9:06 AM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 5:23 PM, Kay Schenk kay.sch...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 12:24 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: I'd like to run this by as an idea. Today, the announcement at the top of our

Re: Proposal: How we should handle committer vetos and reverts in the future

2013-02-15 Thread Kay Schenk
On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 2:31 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: Obviously the changes to Calc's POWER() function did not go well. no they didn't IMHO, we need to better respect the rare but powerful veto option that committers have:

Re: Building with --without-system-serf

2013-02-16 Thread Kay Schenk
On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 9:32 AM, Ariel Constenla-Haile arie...@apache.orgwrote: On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 09:04:37AM -0800, Kay Schenk wrote: On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 1:11 PM, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org wrote: I've been busy with building lately, especially with building on Fedora

Re: Solving this 0⁰ issue correctly (was Re: Calc behavior: result of 0 ^ 0)

2013-02-18 Thread Kay Schenk
On Mon, Feb 18, 2013 at 12:26 AM, Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@gmail.comwrote: On 2/18/13 1:15 AM, Pedro Giffuni wrote: Hello; Well, as you might imagine I am really tired of the flame storm that went around the 0 ^ 0 issue. My intention here is not at all to re-start that discussion.

Re: Mwiki is moved into maintenance mode.

2013-02-19 Thread Kay Schenk
On Sat, Feb 16, 2013 at 1:42 PM, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.orgwrote: On 12/02/2013 janI wrote: Regarding moving cwiki to wiki. - There seemed to be general consensus to move the pages, however there seems to be a discussion whether to keep Cwiki as scratch paper. - It is also

Re: The Great Bugzilla Taxonomy Cleanup

2013-02-19 Thread Kay Schenk
On Mon, Feb 18, 2013 at 2:15 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 8:00 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: No, no. Don't worry. I haven't changed anything ;-) But I have put up a wiki page with our current top level taxonomy, as well as the descriptions and

maybe a useful little link to the Introduction to Contributing page...

2013-02-19 Thread Kay Schenk
Any issues with adding the following link -- A Guide to Participating in an Open Source Software Community: http://www.oss-watch.ac.uk/resources/toptipscommunities as say item #2.5 on: http://openoffice.apache.org/orientation/intro-contributing.html --

Re: configuration changes for external libraries

2013-02-19 Thread Kay Schenk
On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 2:18 PM, Michael Lam mnsyl4...@verizon.net wrote: I am trying to update the build to use the latest source of HSQLDB but the build is failing and I am not sure how to proceed. I already updated main/external_deps.list as well as the makefile.mk and version.mk within

Re: Did we get any good photographs at Fosdem?

2013-02-25 Thread Kay Schenk
On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 12:57 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: Did we get any good photographs at Fosdem? Or ApacheConEU? I think our website would benefit greatly from some visual elements. For example, our main get involved page: http://openoffice.apache.org/get-involved.html

Re: Introductions

2013-02-27 Thread Kay Schenk
On Sat, Feb 23, 2013 at 12:09 PM, Joshua Severn jasev...@gmail.com wrote: Who are you? Josh, long-time user of OpenOffice, newbie to the contributing community Where are you from? California, USA What are you interested in? User Documentation, Technical Communication and Writing,

Re: Strategic Planning: Website

2013-03-01 Thread Kay Schenk
On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 7:19 AM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: I apologize in advance for talking like a corporation. But I think there is some good things we can borrow from corporate thinking, and one is to discuss and adopt long-term strategic plans. The danger of not doing this is

Adabase...

2013-03-04 Thread Kay Schenk
It seems we have a fair amount of code devoted to dealing with AdaBase. And, it seems, this used to ship with OpenOffice (well Star Office actually). I can't find a lot of activity surrounding this lately. Can someone enlighten the rest of us about this? With Rob's recent start (wiki page(s))

Re: Adabase...

2013-03-04 Thread Kay Schenk
On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 3:52 PM, Fernando Cassia fcas...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 8:38 PM, Kay Schenk kay.sch...@gmail.com wrote: It seems we have a fair amount of code devoted to dealing with AdaBase. And, it seems, this used to ship with OpenOffice (well Star Office

Re: Please let me know the mail list address for Base

2013-03-06 Thread Kay Schenk
On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 7:42 AM, Tristan Hales tris...@thenatureplace.netwrote: Hello the right person! Please help me find the mail list for Base group. Thank you and sorry it this is in the wrong mail list. Tristan Hales, Asst. Office Manager The Nature Place 719.748.3475 Tristan, hi --

Re: Strategic Planning: Website

2013-03-06 Thread Kay Schenk
On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 11:59 AM, janI j...@apache.org wrote: On 2 March 2013 02:27, Dennis E. Hamilton dennis.hamil...@acm.org wrote: Right, thanks. I talk to Ward (Cunningham) practically every week, and I still confuse his name with Ward Christensen when typing it in text. Christensen

Re: [PRESS MENTION] New York Times

2013-03-06 Thread Kay Schenk
On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 1:48 PM, Donald Harbison dpharbi...@gmail.comwrote: Well, if you read the latest MS-Office review in today's NYT[1] you'll see the focus mostly on the new pricing. Then at the summary the author brings up the fact that you don't need to buy it, just grab OpenOffice.

Re: Review Board

2013-03-08 Thread Kay Schenk
On Fri, Mar 8, 2013 at 12:51 PM, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote: Only if we are going to become a Review Then Commit project. Otherwise I think it becomes yet another system to learn how to use. I agree with Dave on this. I don't see a particular need. But, interesting, none the

Re: cleanup of cwiki...

2013-03-09 Thread Kay Schenk
On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 9:44 AM, Kay Schenk kay.sch...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 4:41 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 6:53 PM, Kay Schenk kay.sch...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 3:50 PM, Alexandro Colorado j...@oooes.org wrote: I

suggestion for another cwiki change..new

2013-03-09 Thread Kay Schenk
Right now, for top level categories on cwiki, we have the following: - https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Release-Translate-Plan?moved=true# Project Planninghttps://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Project+Planning -

Re: Review Board

2013-03-10 Thread Kay Schenk
On Fri, Mar 8, 2013 at 1:47 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Fri, Mar 8, 2013 at 4:21 PM, janI j...@apache.org wrote: On 8 March 2013 22:16, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Fri, Mar 8, 2013 at 3:51 PM, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote: Only if we are going to

Re: Tutorial: dedicated website

2013-03-12 Thread Kay Schenk
On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 2:32 AM, FR web forum ooofo...@free.fr wrote: Hello list, As templates and extensions websites, is it possible to have the same thing for tutorials? It could be help end users to have a dedicated place. This website could be provide documents (ODT or PDF) but also

Re: Developer build repository

2013-03-13 Thread Kay Schenk
On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 2:09 PM, janI j...@apache.org wrote: On 13 March 2013 21:50, Juergen Schmidt jogischm...@gmail.com wrote: Am Mittwoch, 13. März 2013 um 20:09 schrieb Ariel Constenla-Haile: On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 12:59:11PM -0600, Alexandro Colorado wrote: Is there or will

Re: Proposal: OpenOffice screenshots for publicity

2013-03-13 Thread Kay Schenk
On Sun, Mar 10, 2013 at 8:06 AM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: The PMC receives requests, every couple of weeks, from book publishers for permission to use OpenOffice screenshots in a book. Most often they are asking to use a specific screenshot from the website that they have

Re: Proposal: OpenOffice screenshots for publicity

2013-03-14 Thread Kay Schenk
On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 1:31 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 7:39 PM, Kay Schenk kay.sch...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Mar 10, 2013 at 8:06 AM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: The PMC receives requests, every couple of weeks, from book publishers

weird simple BZ question -- no Difficulty keyword search?

2013-03-14 Thread Kay Schenk
I see that Difficulty is used in some of our BZ issues and highlighted on the orientation module Finding Easy Tasks: http://openoffice.apache.org/orientation/intro-development.html however, when I just look at the Advanced search mechanism for BZ, I don't see difficulty as a keyword. I must be

Re: weird simple BZ question -- no Difficulty keyword search?

2013-03-14 Thread Kay Schenk
On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 4:52 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 7:08 PM, Kay Schenk kay.sch...@gmail.com wrote: I see that Difficulty is used in some of our BZ issues and highlighted on the orientation module Finding Easy Tasks: http://openoffice.apache.org

Re: Completed How the Apache OpenOffice Project Works

2013-03-15 Thread Kay Schenk
Rebecca -- Thanks for letting us know of your progress. We hope to see more of you on this list soon! On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 8:32 PM, Rebecca Williams sxyrck...@gmail.comwrote: I have completed this module. --

Re: Completed How the Apache OpenOffice Project Works

2013-03-15 Thread Kay Schenk
Martha, Thanks for letting us know of your progress. We hope to see more of you on this list soon! On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 2:37 AM, martha baker trinity1...@icloud.comwrote: complete martha baker trinity1...@icloud.com --

Do we need a survey mechanism?

2013-03-17 Thread Kay Schenk
In light of our recent start on Strategic Planning, is it worthwhile to investigate some sort of survey mechanism? I know we've used Google Moderator, and I see there were mixed opinions on that. We really need to get a better feel of WHAT our end users are doing with AOO I think, before we can

my config experience/woes

2013-03-18 Thread Kay Schenk
A couple of weeks ago I tired to get going on a build to JUST test out hsqldb 2.2.9 and my now Oracle Java 1.7.0_17 version. (opensuse 12.2 Linux). Yes, this was the first time I actually tried to do an AOO build, but, decided it was time. :} I wanted to setup the config to eliminate as many the

Re: Tutorial: dedicated website

2013-03-18 Thread Kay Schenk
On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 4:41 PM, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.orgwrote: FR web forum wrote: I don't see a big advantage in terms of usability between the MWiki we already have and any other CMS. Well, why Extensions or Templates website don't use MWiki in this case? It is a different

Re: my config experience/woes

2013-03-19 Thread Kay Schenk
On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 6:06 AM, Michael Lam mnsyl4...@verizon.net wrote: On 03/18/2013 05:27 PM, Kay Schenk wrote: A couple of weeks ago I tired to get going on a build to JUST test out hsqldb 2.2.9 and my now Oracle Java 1.7.0_17 version. (opensuse 12.2 Linux). Yes, this was the first time

Re: Build configuration on Linux

2013-03-19 Thread Kay Schenk
On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 1:40 AM, janI j...@apache.org wrote: On 19 March 2013 07:34, Raphael Bircher r.birc...@gmx.ch wrote: Hi all At all frequently Linux builder, what you use for a build configuration under Linux? Ubuntu 12.04: ./configure \

Re: What is our current best recommendation for 3.4.1 random crashes?

2013-03-21 Thread Kay Schenk
On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 8:02 AM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: Users report that they install 3.4.1and it crashes quickly after starting. Reinstall doesn't help. Currently we point users to a forum post explaining how to rename or remove the profile. This beyond the skill level of

Re: Do we need a survey mechanism?

2013-03-21 Thread Kay Schenk
On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 6:25 PM, Kevin Grignon kevingrignon...@gmail.comwrote: KG02 - see comments inline On Mar 19, 2013, at 6:11 AM, Kay Schenk kay.sch...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Mar 17, 2013 at 6:09 PM, Kevin Grignon kevingrignon...@gmail.comwrote: KG01 - see comments inline

Re: What is our current best recommendation for 3.4.1 random crashes?

2013-03-21 Thread Kay Schenk
On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 9:47 AM, RGB ES rgb.m...@gmail.com wrote: 2013/3/21 Kay Schenk kay.sch...@gmail.com On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 8:02 AM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: Users report that they install 3.4.1and it crashes quickly after starting. Reinstall doesn't help

Re: [CODE][PROPOSAL]: AOO 4.0 getting rid of the 3 layer office, part 1

2013-03-22 Thread Kay Schenk
On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 9:15 AM, Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@gmail.comwrote: Hi, the so called 3layer office is not really useful anymore (it was never) and makes more problems than it helps. I thought that AOO 4.0 would be the best time to start at least with the necessary rework. The main

Re: A question about existing practices

2013-03-22 Thread Kay Schenk
On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 2:27 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 5:22 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 5:11 PM, Donald Whytock dwhyt...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 5:03 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: My take

Re: linux 32 buildbots offline, does anyone know anything about this

2013-03-22 Thread Kay Schenk
On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 9:58 AM, Andrew Rist andrew.r...@oracle.com wrote: On 3/22/2013 9:19 AM, Kay Schenk wrote: Hi, It seems the linux 32-bit buildbot processes have been offline for about a week. Actually, they've been down for a bit longer than that. We had kind of overwhelmed

Re: Mailing List

2013-03-22 Thread Kay Schenk
Charles -- Do you mean you wanted to subscribe to the mailing list and you couldn't get the verification link to work? Please let us know. Maybe we can do something manually if you can't. On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 6:20 PM, Charles Smoote csmoote...@gmail.comwrote: I can't activate my account.

Re: [CODE][PROPOSAL]: AOO 4.0 getting rid of the 3 layer office, part 1

2013-03-23 Thread Kay Schenk
On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 7:52 PM, Ian C i...@amham.net wrote: Hi Jürgen, On Sat, Mar 23, 2013 at 12:15 AM, Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, the so called 3layer office is not really useful anymore (it was never) and makes more problems than it helps. I thought that

Re: Download page: add Official Site to the title

2013-03-24 Thread Kay Schenk
On Sun, Mar 24, 2013 at 10:21 AM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Sun, Mar 24, 2013 at 1:00 PM, Marcus (OOo) marcus.m...@wtnet.de wrote: Am 03/24/2013 11:23 AM, schrieb Andrea Pescetti: I've just added Official Site to the HTML title element in http://www.openoffice.org/download/

questions about Base---do we need an embedded DB?

2013-03-25 Thread Kay Schenk
Well no doubt this may start a rather heated discussion. I started looking into the history of the Base component, who is using it now (looked into Forums, users discussion list), and finally came upon the following FAQ (edited a LOT just recently): http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/FAQ_%28Base%29

Re: questions about Base---do we need an embedded DB?

2013-03-26 Thread Kay Schenk
On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 4:39 PM, Ariel Constenla-Haile arie...@apache.orgwrote: Hi Kay, On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 03:58:06PM -0700, Kay Schenk wrote: Well no doubt this may start a rather heated discussion. One of my favorites quotes about Base is from Andreas Säger (villeroy on the forums

Re: questions about Base---do we need an embedded DB?

2013-03-27 Thread Kay Schenk
On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 11:57 PM, Guy Waterval waterval@gmail.comwrote: Hi Andrew, Hi all, 2013/3/27 Andrew Douglas Pitonyak and...@pitonyak.org I like an embedded DB for those times that I desire a small DB for small data that is relational. For larger data sets, the embedded DB

Re: questions about Base---do we need an embedded DB?

2013-03-27 Thread Kay Schenk
On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 2:07 PM, Rony G. Flatscher rony.flatsc...@wu.ac.atwrote: On 27.03.2013 21:57, Kay Schenk wrote: On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 11:01 AM, Donald Whytock dwhyt...@gmail.com wrote: Just tossing this out...It seems Apache Derby is the one SQL-based DBMS in the Foundation

Re: questions about Base---do we need an embedded DB?

2013-03-28 Thread Kay Schenk
On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 7:56 PM, Andrew Douglas Pitonyak and...@pitonyak.org wrote: On 03/27/2013 04:57 PM, Kay Schenk wrote: Well Derby does seem to be embed-able . See: http://db.apache.org/derby/**papers/DerbyTut/embedded_**intro.htmlhttp://db.apache.org/derby/papers/DerbyTut

Re: Conversation: Pick A Logo

2013-03-28 Thread Kay Schenk
On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 5:38 AM, Samer Mansour samer...@gmail.com wrote: Robin brought up a good point that we should pick a logo before we start work on the application artifacts or the website as it will influence those. I initially was excited that we could have a new logo, an opportunity

Re: questions about Base---do we need an embedded DB?

2013-03-29 Thread Kay Schenk
On Fri, Mar 29, 2013 at 10:08 AM, Reizinger Zoltán zreizin...@hdsnet.huwrote: 2013.03.29. 17:25 keltezéssel, Michael Lam írta: On 03/28/2013 01:24 PM, Kay Schenk wrote: On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 7:56 PM, Andrew Douglas Pitonyak and...@pitonyak.org wrote: On 03/27/2013 04:57 PM, Kay

Re: questions about Base---do we need an embedded DB?

2013-03-30 Thread Kay Schenk
On Fri, Mar 29, 2013 at 11:36 AM, Mechtilde o...@mechtilde.de wrote: Hello Am 29.03.2013 19:07, schrieb Kay Schenk: On Fri, Mar 29, 2013 at 10:08 AM, Reizinger Zoltán zreizin...@hdsnet.hu wrote: 2013.03.29. 17:25 keltezéssel, Michael Lam írta: On 03/28/2013 01:24 PM, Kay Schenk

Re: questions about Base---do we need an embedded DB?

2013-03-31 Thread Kay Schenk
On Sat, Mar 30, 2013 at 2:26 PM, Michael Lam mnsyl4...@verizon.net wrote: On 03/30/2013 04:30 PM, Andrea Pescetti wrote: On 29/03/2013 Reizinger Zoltán wrote: 2013.03.29. 17:25 keltezéssel, Michael Lam írta: I have been working on updating the HSQL to the latest version. I have most of

Re: questions about Base---do we need an embedded DB?

2013-04-01 Thread Kay Schenk
[ top posting ] We have gone off topic a bit from the initial subject of this thread. But please feel free to add comments on the original subject if you feel inclined. And, for those who have volunteered to continue helping with HSQL, thank you. On Sun, Mar 31, 2013 at 10:28 AM, Kay Schenk

Re: Draft blog post: X-ApacheOpenOffice: A Portable Applications Version of Apache OpenOffice from winPenPack

2013-04-02 Thread Kay Schenk
On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 11:19 AM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: https://blogs.apache.org/preview/OOo/?previewEntry=x_apacheopenoffice_a_portable_applications -Rob very nice! -- MzK Achieving

Re: OS for main AOO buildbots

2013-04-02 Thread Kay Schenk
On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 2:30 PM, Andrew Rist andrew.r...@oracle.com wrote: In discussions with infra, (mine and Andrea's) an idea has been hatched to create a CentOS buildbot. This would replace the defunct linux32 bot (previously ubuntu 10.4). In addition to changing the OS, we will also

Re: OS for main AOO buildbots

2013-04-02 Thread Kay Schenk
On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 3:37 PM, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org wrote: Andrew Rist wrote: What version of CentOS do we want on this machine? We want the snapshot builds to be fully usable. I'll write here the reasoning behind this, so that it can be corrected if needed. Ariel's

Re: draft blog post: press@ - It's easy to get first hand information

2013-04-03 Thread Kay Schenk
On Wed, Apr 3, 2013 at 9:36 AM, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org wrote: Rob Weir wrote: On Wed, Apr 3, 2013 at 8:10 AM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote: I am a little bit annoyed about the often bad researched articles about OpenOffice or at least articles spreading wrong information about

Re: Shell access to LAMP machines

2013-04-03 Thread Kay Schenk
On Wed, Apr 3, 2013 at 8:22 AM, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org wrote: On 01/04/2013 janI wrote: A volunteer does not need to be an expert, that can be learned, possibility to react swiftly to alers in your TZ is the key. General knowledge about mysql/php is a clear advantage. In

Re: Proposal: Improve security by limiting committer access in SVN

2013-04-05 Thread Kay Schenk
On Wed, Apr 3, 2013 at 5:39 AM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: We're starting to take a deeper look at what is required to integrate code signing into the OpenOffice build and release process. As you probably know operating systems, especially Windows and MacOS, are now checking for

Re: questions about Base---do we need an embedded DB?

2013-04-05 Thread Kay Schenk
, it would be just to furnish a default built-in DBMS. - Dennis Small. Fast. Reliable. Choose any three. I love the brass! http://sqlite.org/ -Original Message- From: Kay Schenk [mailto:kay.sch...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2013 14:05 To: dev

Re: Shell access to LAMP machines

2013-04-05 Thread Kay Schenk
On Fri, Apr 5, 2013 at 11:01 AM, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.orgwrote: Andrew Rist wrote: I'll raise my hand for US TZ - though that doesn't there isn't plenty of room for others here to step up. Who else is willing to help? (don't be shy!) Thank you! So the team is shaping this

Re: OS for main AOO buildbots

2013-04-08 Thread Kay Schenk
On Sun, Apr 7, 2013 at 5:12 PM, Ariel Constenla-Haile arie...@apache.orgwrote: Hi Kay, On Tue, Apr 02, 2013 at 04:33:05PM -0700, Kay Schenk wrote: Well, Ok. I think we need to maintain a secure environment with anything used for our builds -- libraries, etc. That would be my only concern

Re: Conversation: Pick A Logo

2013-04-08 Thread Kay Schenk
On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 9:26 AM, Robin Fowler robin.fow...@outlook.comwrote: Hi Samer, I agree with you that the logos should be evaluated with technical limitations in mind, but I think you might be putting too much emphasis on aspects that are not very relevant and should not be high on the

OpenOffice vs Microsoft Office comparison chart...

2013-04-09 Thread Kay Schenk
I came across this chart comparing LibreOffice vs Microsoft Office... https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Feature_Comparison:_LibreOffice_-_Microsoft_Office Do we have anything similar/more recent than the information I found in: http://www.openoffice.org/dev_docs/features/3.0/ or ??? We seem

Re: OpenOffice vs Microsoft Office comparison chart...

2013-04-09 Thread Kay Schenk
On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 9:40 AM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 12:25 PM, Kay Schenk kay.sch...@gmail.com wrote: I came across this chart comparing LibreOffice vs Microsoft Office... https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Feature_Comparison:_LibreOffice_

Re: Draft blog post: Welcome GSoC Students!

2013-04-09 Thread Kay Schenk
On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 3:28 PM, Alexandro Colorado j...@oooes.org wrote: On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 5:01 PM, Marcus (OOo) marcus.m...@wtnet.de wrote: Am 04/09/2013 11:46 PM, schrieb Rob Weir: https://blogs.apache.org/**preview/OOo/?previewEntry=** welcome_to_gsoc_students

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