Re: [RELEASE]: propose AOO 4.1.0 RC

[Pedro Lino]

Hi all

First of all I would like to say that I'm *really* happy that update
patches have arrived for the Windows OS. I was almost sure that I would
never see this in a StarOffice derivative. Kudos to the AOO developers!

I have installed scenario 2 (- Upgrade install 4.1.0 over an existing
4.0.1) with en_US and PT under Windows XP Pro x86 SP3 en_US.

Overall everything seems to be working perfectly but there is a small
quirk: the Startup Group for 4.0.1 is not removed so you end up with two
startup groups with different names pointing at the same folder.

In addition the OpenOffice logo shows on the 4.0.1 group but not on the
4.1.0.

I know these are small cosmetic problems but could be confusing for users.

I can create a bugzilla report if necessary.

Regards,
Pedro


On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 7:43 AM, Yuzhen Fan fanyuz...@gmail.com wrote:

 Thanks Steve for your verification on installation of new package on en_US.

 From testing perspective:
 1. The repackage changes nothing on functions, so previous and ongoing
 tests are still valid and there is no need for retesting.
 2. But we need to retest the installation for below two typical scenarios
 on all language packages
 - Clean install 4.1.0 with no existing versions(e.g. 4.0.1)
 - Upgrade install 4.1.0 over an existing 4.0.1



 On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 2:09 PM, Steve Yin steve.yin@gmail.com wrote:

  No problem found.
 
 
  On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 1:31 PM, Steve Yin steve.yin@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
   It's great to hear that. I am going to try the new package now.
  
  
   On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 12:31 PM, Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@gmail.com
  wrote:
  
   On 4/3/14 6:06 PM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
On 4/3/14 5:43 PM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
On 4/3/14 5:34 PM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
ATTENTION: we have to repackage the windows builds, the vote will
continue because we change nothing, just repackage the install
   packages
   
I have built with the release=t flag to be prepared for future
  patches
that will allow us for example to upgrade a 4.1 or 4.2 to an 4.3.
  The
whole mechanism is very complex and it seems that we have
 overseen a
small detail. No big thing we just have to rebuild for now and
 have
  to
test the patch mechanism a little bit more.
   
That means also that the msp have to be used even more careful.
 They
work to upgrade a 4.0.1 to a 4.1 but the next msp for a potential
  4.2
   or
4.1.1 can't be applied to a patched 4.0.1.
   
The current problem is that the new full install sets can't be
   installed
over an existing 4.0.1 this. Something that we don't want for now
 ;-)
   
I will delete the full install sets now to avoid further confusion.
  Stay
tuned probably tomorrow the new builds are available.
  
   Ok, Windows full install sets are replaced. I wish you all happy
 testing
   and voting and will be back on Monday.
  
   We have only repackaged that means the about dialog will contain the
   same values as before.
  
   Juergen
  
  
   
Juergen
   
   
Juergen
   
   
Juergen
   
   
On 4/2/14 3:16 PM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
Hi,
   
FOLLOW UP discussion please on the dev list!!!
   
Last week I proposed a final schedule for our upcoming AOO 4.1
   release.
We are a little bit behind because the fact that we had to fix
 some
further critical issues. Nevertheless I would like to propose a
   first RC
based on revision 1583666 from the AOO410 branch. We spend a lot
 of
   time
in preparing the RC in time and the upload is ongoing. The MacOS
  and
Windows versions are already available and the Linux upload is
  still
ongoing. But keep in mind the binaries are for convenience and
 the
release relevant bits are the source release.
   
The RC builds can be found as always under
   
  
 
 https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Development+Snapshot+Builds
   
An overview of the fixes issues, enhancements and tasks going
 into
   this
release can be found under
   
  
  http://people.apache.org/~jsc/milestones/4.1.0-rc/AOO4.1.0_RC_fixes.html
 .
I invite all volunteers to help with the verification of the
 fixed
issues. Especially the issues related to translation
 updates/fixes
should be verified by native speakers.
   
A related RAT scan can be found under
   
  
  http://people.apache.org/~jsc/milestones/4.1.0-rc/AOO4.1.0_RAT_Scan.html
   
I have also prepared patches (msp) for Windows and for the
  languages
   we
have released with AOO 4.0.1. The patches are intended for
 private
   use
only and of course for testing but not for the release. It's the
   first
time that we prepared a complete set of patches and we have to
 test
   the
functionality a little bit more. The related full install sets
 are
prepared for patches in the future and can release patches in the
   future
as well if they work as expected. By the way I have upgraded AOO
   4.0.1
  

Re: [RELEASE]: propose AOO 4.1.0 RC

[Pedro Lino]

Hi Yuzhen

Is there a patch to update 4.0.0 to 4.0.1?
Or do you mean with the full installer?


On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 8:49 AM, Yuzhen Fan fanyuz...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Pedro,

 Could you please report it in bugzilla and help to confirm if it has the
 same problem when install 4.0.1 over an existing 4.0.0? Thanks!


 On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 3:13 PM, Pedro Lino pedl...@gmail.com wrote:

  Hi all
 
  First of all I would like to say that I'm *really* happy that update
  patches have arrived for the Windows OS. I was almost sure that I would
  never see this in a StarOffice derivative. Kudos to the AOO developers!
 
  I have installed scenario 2 (- Upgrade install 4.1.0 over an existing
  4.0.1) with en_US and PT under Windows XP Pro x86 SP3 en_US.
 
  Overall everything seems to be working perfectly but there is a small
  quirk: the Startup Group for 4.0.1 is not removed so you end up with two
  startup groups with different names pointing at the same folder.
 
  In addition the OpenOffice logo shows on the 4.0.1 group but not on the
  4.1.0.
 
  I know these are small cosmetic problems but could be confusing for
 users.
 
  I can create a bugzilla report if necessary.
 
  Regards,
  Pedro
 
 
  On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 7:43 AM, Yuzhen Fan fanyuz...@gmail.com wrote:
 
   Thanks Steve for your verification on installation of new package on
  en_US.
  
   From testing perspective:
   1. The repackage changes nothing on functions, so previous and ongoing
   tests are still valid and there is no need for retesting.
   2. But we need to retest the installation for below two typical
 scenarios
   on all language packages
   - Clean install 4.1.0 with no existing versions(e.g. 4.0.1)
   - Upgrade install 4.1.0 over an existing 4.0.1
  
  
  
   On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 2:09 PM, Steve Yin steve.yin@gmail.com
  wrote:
  
No problem found.
   
   
On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 1:31 PM, Steve Yin steve.yin@gmail.com
   wrote:
   
 It's great to hear that. I am going to try the new package now.


 On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 12:31 PM, Jürgen Schmidt 
  jogischm...@gmail.com
wrote:

 On 4/3/14 6:06 PM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
  On 4/3/14 5:43 PM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
  On 4/3/14 5:34 PM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
  ATTENTION: we have to repackage the windows builds, the vote
  will
  continue because we change nothing, just repackage the install
 packages
 
  I have built with the release=t flag to be prepared for future
patches
  that will allow us for example to upgrade a 4.1 or 4.2 to an
  4.3.
The
  whole mechanism is very complex and it seems that we have
   overseen a
  small detail. No big thing we just have to rebuild for now and
   have
to
  test the patch mechanism a little bit more.
 
  That means also that the msp have to be used even more
 careful.
   They
  work to upgrade a 4.0.1 to a 4.1 but the next msp for a
  potential
4.2
 or
  4.1.1 can't be applied to a patched 4.0.1.
 
  The current problem is that the new full install sets can't be
 installed
  over an existing 4.0.1 this. Something that we don't want for
 now
   ;-)
 
  I will delete the full install sets now to avoid further
  confusion.
Stay
  tuned probably tomorrow the new builds are available.

 Ok, Windows full install sets are replaced. I wish you all happy
   testing
 and voting and will be back on Monday.

 We have only repackaged that means the about dialog will contain
 the
 same values as before.

 Juergen


 
  Juergen
 
 
  Juergen
 
 
  Juergen
 
 
  On 4/2/14 3:16 PM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
  Hi,
 
  FOLLOW UP discussion please on the dev list!!!
 
  Last week I proposed a final schedule for our upcoming AOO
 4.1
 release.
  We are a little bit behind because the fact that we had to
 fix
   some
  further critical issues. Nevertheless I would like to
 propose a
 first RC
  based on revision 1583666 from the AOO410 branch. We spend a
  lot
   of
 time
  in preparing the RC in time and the upload is ongoing. The
  MacOS
and
  Windows versions are already available and the Linux upload
 is
still
  ongoing. But keep in mind the binaries are for convenience
 and
   the
  release relevant bits are the source release.
 
  The RC builds can be found as always under
 

   
  
 
 https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Development+Snapshot+Builds
 
  An overview of the fixes issues, enhancements and tasks going
   into
 this
  release can be found under
 

   
  http://people.apache.org/~jsc/milestones/4.1.0-rc/AOO4.1.0_RC_fixes.html
   .
  I invite all volunteers to help with the verification of the
   fixed
  issues. Especially the issues related to translation
   updates/fixes
  should

Re: [RELEASE]: propose AOO 4.1.0 RC

[Pedro Lino]

Hi Yuzhen, all

Sorry for the delay but I was doing some more testing.

Here are my findings:

There is no problem updating from 4.0.0 to 4.0.1
The Startup Group, the desktop icon and the Add/Remove list are updated as
expected.

The problem only occurs when updating from 4.0.0 to 4.1.0 and from 4.0.1 to
4.1.0
There are 3 items that fail: there are 2 startup groups, there are 2
desktop icons and there are two entries in the Add/Remove Programs list.

Updating from 4.0.1 to 4.1.0 using the MS patch is a little better: there
is only one entry in the Add/Remove Programs list after updating (the 4.1.0
as expected). However there are still 2 desktop icons and 2 startup groups
(in this case the patch fails to set the OO icon as the group icon while
the full installer succeeds)

How do you want me to report all these in bugzilla? Or can you (or someone
in QA) add it to bugzilla and add me to CC so that I confirm it (and add
screenshots if needed)?

Regards,
Pedro


On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 8:49 AM, Yuzhen Fan fanyuz...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Pedro,

 Could you please report it in bugzilla and help to confirm if it has the
 same problem when install 4.0.1 over an existing 4.0.0? Thanks!


 On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 3:13 PM, Pedro Lino pedl...@gmail.com wrote:

  Hi all
 
  First of all I would like to say that I'm *really* happy that update
  patches have arrived for the Windows OS. I was almost sure that I would
  never see this in a StarOffice derivative. Kudos to the AOO developers!
 
  I have installed scenario 2 (- Upgrade install 4.1.0 over an existing
  4.0.1) with en_US and PT under Windows XP Pro x86 SP3 en_US.
 
  Overall everything seems to be working perfectly but there is a small
  quirk: the Startup Group for 4.0.1 is not removed so you end up with two
  startup groups with different names pointing at the same folder.
 
  In addition the OpenOffice logo shows on the 4.0.1 group but not on the
  4.1.0.
 
  I know these are small cosmetic problems but could be confusing for
 users.
 
  I can create a bugzilla report if necessary.
 
  Regards,
  Pedro
 
 
  On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 7:43 AM, Yuzhen Fan fanyuz...@gmail.com wrote:
 
   Thanks Steve for your verification on installation of new package on
  en_US.
  
   From testing perspective:
   1. The repackage changes nothing on functions, so previous and ongoing
   tests are still valid and there is no need for retesting.
   2. But we need to retest the installation for below two typical
 scenarios
   on all language packages
   - Clean install 4.1.0 with no existing versions(e.g. 4.0.1)
   - Upgrade install 4.1.0 over an existing 4.0.1
  
  
  
   On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 2:09 PM, Steve Yin steve.yin@gmail.com
  wrote:
  
No problem found.
   
   
On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 1:31 PM, Steve Yin steve.yin@gmail.com
   wrote:
   
 It's great to hear that. I am going to try the new package now.


 On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 12:31 PM, Jürgen Schmidt 
  jogischm...@gmail.com
wrote:

 On 4/3/14 6:06 PM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
  On 4/3/14 5:43 PM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
  On 4/3/14 5:34 PM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
  ATTENTION: we have to repackage the windows builds, the vote
  will
  continue because we change nothing, just repackage the install
 packages
 
  I have built with the release=t flag to be prepared for future
patches
  that will allow us for example to upgrade a 4.1 or 4.2 to an
  4.3.
The
  whole mechanism is very complex and it seems that we have
   overseen a
  small detail. No big thing we just have to rebuild for now and
   have
to
  test the patch mechanism a little bit more.
 
  That means also that the msp have to be used even more
 careful.
   They
  work to upgrade a 4.0.1 to a 4.1 but the next msp for a
  potential
4.2
 or
  4.1.1 can't be applied to a patched 4.0.1.
 
  The current problem is that the new full install sets can't be
 installed
  over an existing 4.0.1 this. Something that we don't want for
 now
   ;-)
 
  I will delete the full install sets now to avoid further
  confusion.
Stay
  tuned probably tomorrow the new builds are available.

 Ok, Windows full install sets are replaced. I wish you all happy
   testing
 and voting and will be back on Monday.

 We have only repackaged that means the about dialog will contain
 the
 same values as before.

 Juergen


 
  Juergen
 
 
  Juergen
 
 
  Juergen
 
 
  On 4/2/14 3:16 PM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
  Hi,
 
  FOLLOW UP discussion please on the dev list!!!
 
  Last week I proposed a final schedule for our upcoming AOO
 4.1
 release.
  We are a little bit behind because the fact that we had to
 fix
   some
  further critical issues. Nevertheless I would like to
 propose a
 first RC
  based on revision 1583666 from the AOO410

Re: Installation guide are asked to review and update when fix bug 124599

[Pedro Lino]

Sounds perfect. Adding options (instead of assuming and deciding for the
user) is always positive ;)

Please make sure that the fix in situation 2) is also included in the MSP


On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 5:55 AM, Yuzhen Fan fanyuz...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi all,

 Bug 124599 [2] is verified fixed in AOO 4.1.0 RC2, from current behaviors
 and comments provided in this bug, the expected behaviors for upgrade on
 Windows could be:

 1. If the former version is 3.x, there will be a check box in Installation
 Wizard providing the option to keep or remove the former version
 - If select Remove all older product versions, then 3.x will be removed
 and 4.x will be installed with 1 startup group, 1 desktop icon and 1 entry
 in the Add/Remove Programs list. This artifact is for 4.x
 - If de-select Remove all older product versions, then 4.x will be
 installed with keeping 3.x, there will be 2 startup groups, 2 desktop icons
 and 2 entries in the Add/Remove Programs list. These artifacts are one
 suite for 3.x and the other suite for 4.x

 2. If the former version is also 4.x, but older than current installing
 one(e.g. install 4.1.0 over 4.0.0), then the older one will be removed and
 the newer one will be installed with 1 startup group, 1 desktop icon and 1
 entry in the Add/Remove Programs list. This artifact is for the newer one.

 I think above behaviors are acceptable, I propose to update the
 installation instructions [1] according those. Any comments, or any
 objections?

 [1]
 http://www.openoffice.org/download/common/instructions.html#winoverview
 [2] Issue 124599 - Windows 4.1.0 installer does not recognize former
 versions correctly


 On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 12:37 AM, Kay Schenk kay.sch...@gmail.com wrote:

  On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 2:39 AM, Yuzhen Fan fanyuz...@gmail.com wrote:
 
   Hi,
  
   The current installation instructions [1] (last updated on 2014-03-26)
  does
   not differentiate the clean installation and upgrade installation for
   Windows, thus it does not state the option to keep or delete the old
   version for an upgrade installation.
  
   I propose development update the installation instructions [1] when
  submit
   the fix to bug 124599 [2], to provide what is expected to see with
  details
   as below:
  
   1. Upgrade from old version to relative new version (e.g. from 3.3 to
   3.4.1, from 3.4.1 to 4.1.0, from 4.0.0 to 4.1.0, etc)
   2. Specify the different behavior/experience on all platforms (Windows,
   Linux and Mac) - I do not see problems in the current instructions on
  Linux
   and Mac, but need confirmation
  
   That is essential, because for testers we need this as criteria for
   testing, and for end users we need this as instructions for guiding.
  
 
  You are right. We need to have our installations instructions accurate!
  Commmitters can directly edit this page and commit. Others can submit
  patches which we can review.  We could use help from all folks using our
  installation binaries on this.
 
 
  
   [1]
  
 http://www.openoffice.org/download/common/instructions.html#winoverview
   [2] Issue 124599 - Windows 4.1.0 installer does not recognize former
   versions correctly
  
   --
   Regards,
   Yu Zhen
  
 
 
 
  --
 
 
 -
  MzK
 
  Cats do not have to be shown how to have a good time,
   for they are unfailing ingenious in that respect.
 -- James Mason
 



 --
 Regards,
 Yu Zhen

Re: [RELEASE]: AOO 4.1.1 milestone 3, based on rev. 1612804

[Pedro Lino]

Hi Juergen, all

Already installed and ran (and confirmed/tested previous bugs)
It is working perfectly (at least the en_US version)

I'm a little worried that the Windows Nightly based on the same build failed
http://ci.apache.org/builders/aoo-win7/builds/99

Is this bad news or it is not a problem?

Regards,
Pedro


On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 2:51 PM, Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@gmail.com
wrote:

  That means m3 will become a new revision. More info later ...

 ok the upload is nearly finished and the rebuild me is based on revision
 1612804.

 Available as always under

 https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Development+Snapshot+Builds
 when the upload is complete. try again later if you should have problems.

Re: [RELEASE]: propose AOO 4.1.1 RC1 based on revision 1614049

[Pedro Lino]

Hi Juergen

In case no one has noticed, Nightly builds for the Windows OS have been
failing since July 22nd...
http://ci.apache.org/projects/openoffice/#win
Based on your previous answer I assume this is a Tinderbox problem only but
it would be worth to check/fix it?

Best regards,
Pedro


On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 4:31 PM, Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@gmail.com
wrote:

 Hi,

 I propose a first RC based on branch AOO410 revision 1614049.

 I will prepare the builds and hope to have them in place until Friday.

 Juergen

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Re: Can we add the value "N/A" to the Target Milestone field

[Pedro Lino]

On Mon, Mar 21, 2016 at 10:32 PM, Marcus  wrote:

> Am 03/21/2016 10:36 PM, schrieb Kay Schenk:
>
>> [top posting]
>>
>> Thanks for all the help with this and for the new NONE for
>> target release. Hopefully, it will be used sparingly
>> assuming we us e RESOLVED-FIXED as only for issues in which
>> an actual commit is used. Issue 126828 has now been changed
>> to UNCONFIRMED. How to differentiate UNCONFIRMED from
>> RESOLVED--NOT AN ISSUE will be a challenge. Hopefully, this
>> can be clarified to our QA helpers
>>
>
> I repeat my suggestion for another resolution status as it maybe got lost
> in people's inboxes.
>
> My suggestion is to create a RESOLVED - RESOLVED status. Maybe still to
> close to RESOLVED - FIXED, but then let's see if there are better wordings.
>

There is already a final status after RESOLVED - FIXED. It's VERIFIED -
FIXED. It is set after a QA member verifies that the fix actually solved
the problem and that it does not occur in the RC.

Hope this helps.

Re: Updated dictionaries (Portuguese/English)

[Pedro Lino]

Hi Matthias



(it could only be more perfect if the build number was included in the
filename, for test builds only ;) )



It was just a simple rename via SFTP... ;-)


Yes, I realize that for this build you simply did a rename (the build 
date didn't change).
But my request was for the build number to be automatically appended to 
the the filename during the build process for all your future test 
builds (or automatically renamed if that is easier)

So my request was to make that a persistent feature in future builds.

Thanks,
Pedro

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Re: Updated dictionaries (Portuguese/English)

[Pedro Lino]

Hi Matthias, all


(it could only be more perfect if the build number was included in the
filename, for test builds only ;) )

Good idea! Done... ;-)


Excellent! I meant for future builds, but why not start right now? Thank 
you!



This project is from users for users...


Yes, I think that is what makes the difference with the current group of 
people maintaining AOO (when compared to the past and to other 
projects). If only more people realized this small detail, it would make 
a huge difference.



And we are a great community!


I agree. We only need more developers :)

Kind regards,
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Re: Updated dictionaries (Portuguese/English)

[Pedro Lino]

Hi Matthias

First of all thank you for setting up a proper download page (with 
Revision number and file time/date and size!).
All this information is extremely useful for people systematically 
downloading test builds!


(it could only be more perfect if the build number was included in the 
filename, for test builds only ;) )



I uploaded new test builds with updated dictionaries and other fixes...

https://home.apache.org/~mseidel/AOO-builds/AOO-414-Test/

Maybe you want to give it a try?


Done. All is working perfectly with build 1800873 under Windows 10 Home x64.

Installation of 4.1.4 pt, check. Java detection (32bit obviously), 
check. Latest Portuguese dictionary included, check.
Installing English language pack and switching to English UI, check. 
Opening/saving ODT/ODS/ODP, check.


It seems that we have a keeper ;)

Thank you and to all contributing to this project.

Best regards,
Pedro

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Re: Test builds for Windows

[Pedro Lino]

Hi Mathias

Thank you for the test builds.

The Portuguese  1793492 build does not include the latest dictionary 
(available since May 29th)

Can you fix this?


Note: The coming build will include shell extensions for Windows 64bit
(--enable-win-x64-shellext)


What is the advantage?

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Re: Test builds for Windows

[Pedro Lino]

Hi again Mathias



The Portuguese  1793492 build does not include the latest dictionary
(available since May 29th)
Can you fix this?

Confirmed!
It is in trunk, but not (yet) in the 414 branch.
This will be corrected!


Thanks!


I am quoting (from configure.ac):
--enable-win-x64-shellext
 Enable the build/usage of Windows 64bit shell extensions.
 These extensions are used for the system integration on
 Windows 64bit systems. For example supporting the search
 in ODF files with the standard Windows search feature.

I didn't even know this was supported until recently... ;-)


Thank you for the explanation.
I never use Windows search but that could be useful.

Regards,
Pedro

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Re: Updated dictionaries (Portuguese/English)

[Pedro Lino]

Hi Mattias, all


Meanwhile the Portuguese and the English dictionaries were updated. I
committed to trunk.

But for the 4.1.4 branch should we reopen
https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=127341 ?


Since there were no changes in the extension code I believe that the 
latest version of the dictionary should always be included. Otherwise 
most people doing a fresh install of AOO (English is by far the most 
downloaded version) will immediately have to update an extension. This 
is obviously not a problem but seems unnecessary (an extra download and 
an extra install)


Just my 2 cents.
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Re: i have tested

[Pedro Lino]

Hi all


The issue can be tested with any version of Windows irregardless of
bitness of the OS. The issue is with the version of msvcr100.dll. The
64bit version of the dll was inadvertently bundled with the 4.1.3
release thereby not allowing AOO version 4.1.3 to recognize a valid 32
bit JRE. To test if it has indeed been fixed you can install a test
version of 4.1.4 on any windows machine and see if it finds your JRE. If
it does not than the root cause of the issue is not fixed. If it does
then navigate to C:\Program Files (x86)\OpenOffice 4\program and check
the properties of msvcr100.dll and verify that it is version
9.00.30729.01 or higher. If it is not than the issue is not completely fixed



Tested with
AOO414m1(Build:9784)  -  Rev. 1793492
2017-06-26 15:00:18 (Mo, 26 Jun 2017)

under Windows 10 Home x64  build 10.0.15063

JRE 1.8.0_131 (32 bit) is identified
and msvcr100.dll is version 10.0.40219.325

so the bug seems to be fixed.

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Re: i have tested

[Pedro Lino]

Hi Matthias


I uploaded a new test version on Sunday:The build environment was
switched to Windows 10 (64bit) and I did a "full" build of all
languages including language packs.Maybe you want to try this version
additionally?


The Java problem is confirmed fixed in the new build tested under 
Windows 7 (=6.1.7601) Professional SP1 x64

I will install under Windows XP when I have a chance.

Pedro


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  Hi all

  > The issue can be tested with any version of Windows irregardless of
  > bitness of the OS. The issue is with the version of msvcr100.dll.
The
  > 64bit version of the dll was inadvertently bundled with the 4.1.3
  > release thereby not allowing AOO version 4.1.3 to recognize a valid
32
  > bit JRE. To test if it has indeed been fixed you can install a test
  > version of 4.1.4 on any windows machine and see if it finds your
JRE. If
  > it does not than the root cause of the issue is not fixed. If it
does
  > then navigate to C:Program Files (x86)OpenOffice 4program and check
  > the properties of msvcr100.dll and verify that it is version
  > 9.00.30729.01 or higher. If it is not than the issue is not
completely fixed
  >

  Tested with
  AOO414m1(Build:9784) - Rev. 1793492
  2017-06-26 15:00:18 (Mo, 26 Jun 2017)

  under Windows 10 Home x64 build 10.0.15063

  JRE 1.8.0_131 (32 bit) is identified
  and msvcr100.dll is version 10.0.40219325

  so the bug seems to be fixed.

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Re: I want to test AOO 4.1.4 again

[Pedro Lino]

Hi again


Is there any noticeable change from the user perspective? Should
testers replace the previous build with this one?

No, it is the same revision. But users shouldn't use it! ;-)


Ok. I am a user (meaning I'm not a developer) so my concern is the user 
perspective.



Testers are free to replace the version to see if the new components
have any impact on the installation/program.
(Cygwin and NSIS installer were updated)


Ok. Will do.
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Any 4.1.4 RC for Windows available for testing?

[Pedro Lino]

Hi all

Has it been agreed to do a feature freeze on branch 4.1.4?
If so are there any Release Candidate Windows binaries available?
The last one I tested (and worked pretty stable) was build 1781705 from 
February 6th...


https://ci.apache.org/projects/openoffice/install/win41x/

Can someone please share the download location for the latest builds?

Thanks!
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Re: Reported OLE issue w/ RC2

[Pedro Lino]

Hi Jim, all

On 19/09/2017 11:49, Jim Jagielski wrote:

There have been reports of some OLE issues w/ RC2. If you have
been affected my it, could you try out the below:

 http://home.apache.org/~jim/AOO-builds/pre-RC3/

I'd like to push a RC3 out asap.


Can you point to the issue / bug report so that RC3 can be checked?

Thanks!
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Re: Notice... building RC3

[Pedro Lino]

On 21/09/2017 21:58, Matthias Seidel wrote:

+1
RC3 has never "seen the light" and RC4 would confuse people...



+1
We were testing pre-RC3.
But please bump the Rev number for RC3

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Re: Notice... building RC3

[Pedro Lino]

Hi Kay


> On September 21, 2017 at 9:25 PM Kay Schenk wrote:
> 
> On 09/21/2017 12:01 PM, Jim Jagielski wrote:
> 
> > > I'll be away next week, attending and presenting at both SDxE
> > and the InnerSource Commons Summit, and will be away from the
> > build machines. As such, I am going ahead and building RC3s for
> > Linux (32 and 64bit) and macOS/OSX.
> > 
> > As they complete, I will be committing them to SVN.
> > 
> > > Assuming these will be here at some point:
> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/openoffice/4.1.4-RC3/
> 


In light of the previous decision (skipping RC3) they are already being 
uploaded to

https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/openoffice/4.1.4-RC4/


Regards,

Pedro

Re: Reported OLE issue w/ RC2

[Pedro Lino]

Under Windows 7 x64 the equation does display correctly but there is no way to 
save the document without crashing.

AOO crashes when inserting the equation in Writer but also when opening a 
Math/Formula file and simply by typing an equation in Math. See detailed 
instructions in

https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=126180

It is not a 4.1.4 specific bug. This is a regression in 4.1.x (at least since 
4.1.2).
It worked correctly in 4.0.1

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Re: 4.1.4 RC4: synchronize labels don't work on MacOS

[Pedro Lino]

> I have reproduced the problem in my Windows 8.1 debug environment, based
> on trunk but with some 4.1.4 changes added. I need to get some more
> sleep before serious debug (it is 2:08 a.m. here). Could someone check
> whether it happens in the unmodified trunk? That would narrow it down.
> 


I confirm that I can replicate the problem in 4.1.4 RC4 under Windows 7 but not 
when using 4.2.0 (build 1811013)

Re: 4.1.4 show stopper!

[Pedro Lino]

Hi Andrea, all

> Remember that the amount of code changes needed to produce something
> named 4.1.5 is quite significant and very much error-prone. Take a look
> at the relevant issues in case, but for a "quick fix" I would definitely
> stick to 4.1.4, produce 4.1.4-RC5 and vote on RC5, while undoing what we
> did for 4.1.4-RC4.
> 

+1

> I have
> still to understand the importance of this bug too - I assume this
> affects potentially many users, otherwise we can go the slippery way of
> "fix just another small bug" for ages.
> 


This is not a fix for a small bug. It is a regression introduced since 4.1.3

I believe all regressions from 4.1.3 should be fixed before release. After all 
4.1.4 is a bug fix release, so regressions are not expected (or acceptable IMO)


Pedro

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache OpenOffice 4.1.4-RC5 as GA

[Pedro Lino]

+1 (non-binding)

Installed AOO414m5(Build:9788)  -  Rev. 1811857 2017-10-11 20:12

Portuguese (pt-PT) full install + en_US language pack

Tested and approved under Windows 7 x64 and Windows 10 x64

Tests performed

Test  > Result
Verify md5 signature  >  Passed
Install AOO414-RC5 > Success
Tested fix for BZ #127141 Incorrectly translated text in Installer > 
Verified Fixed

Synchronize labels problem > Verified Fixed

Thanks to all!


On October 13, 2017 at 1:52 PM Jim Jagielski wrote:


Due to a last-minute regression noted in 4.1.4-RC4 (Thx! to
all testers, by the way. We are glad this was found before
we actually released), 4.1.4-RC4 was revoked as GA.

But fear not!

I am calling a VOTE on releasing Apache OpenOffice 4.1.4-RC5
as GA!!

You can find these gems at:

https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/openoffice/4.1.4-RC5/

The vote will last at least the normal 72 hours.

Cheers!
--
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Re: Reporting a problem with the OpenOffice 4 Wiki

[Pedro Lino]

Dear Bahram Maskanian


> First, I like to thank you for developing and offering such a great
> suite of programs to the public free of charge. I am using MAC OS
> Sierra, and as a Persian American I have been using it for my Farsi
> communication, however after version 4.0.1 every single update
> released has not been working properly in Persian language as before.
> Recently I downloaded the latest 4.1.3 to see if the problem still
> exist, and it does. I am still using the 4.0.1, but I thought you
> might want to know about the existing problem.
> 


Could you please describe in detail the problem and the steps to replicate the 
problem at

https://bz.apache.org/ooo/


Thank you for contributing to a better Apache OpenOffice for all.


Kind regards,

Pedro

Re: Reporting a problem with the OpenOffice 4 Wiki

[Pedro Lino]

Hi Peter, all


I guess he is not on the list.
Is it wise to send him to BZ where we might reject just because we can not 
reproduce the issue?


Actually i have been able to replicate and describe problems related to 
Farsi in LO's bugtracker and some were eventually fixed.
As a triager I have never closed an issue just because I can not 
reproduce it.



I think it is better to route people to forums.
We need to reach out to forums and user list for feedback. I think we can much 
better sort things up with our experienced users then with honourable people 
who could classify programming as magic. ( no offense)


Please do send the OP an email with links to forums and user lists.

As a long time bug reporter and checker for both projects I don't agree 
that it is a better option or that people are more experienced or humane 
in forums than in bug trackers. There are all kinds of people with all 
levels of experience and sensibility on both platforms.



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Re: Keep calm and don't over-react Was: Re: 4.1.4 show stopper!

[Pedro Lino]

Hi all

> On October 10, 2017 at 8:47 PM Jörg Schmidt  wrote:

> imho:
> Better to spend more time on a qualitatively good release than to release a 
> less good release overhasty.

+1

> Please don't forget: the quality of AOO is the main argument for many users 
> to choose AOO, especially compared to LO.

+1

> (Yes, bugfixing improves quality, but only if the technical and 
> organizational processes follow the agreed procedures.)

+1

Is the ASF process really so strict that it will force to release 4.1.4 with a 
known regression? That would be a shot in the foot for AOO. And remember, this 
is a public mailing list, so the news are already out.

4.1.4 RC4 was never released to the the public. It is Staged in Sourceforge. Is 
it not possible to go back one step and add the patch to RC5 and still release 
4.1.4?

Just my 2 cents.

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Re: Resolution re: 4.1.4 and 4.1.5

[Pedro Lino]

> On October 11, 2017 at 12:20 PM Jim Jagielski  wrote:
> 
> 
> After a night's sleep I decided that we should release
> the best possible version of AOO 4.1.x as possible. Releasing
> one w/ 2 known regressions just doesn't make sense.

+1

> So the plan is to "re-open" branches/AOO414; I will then apply
> to it the 2 patches that have been applied to branches/AOO415
> (after adjusting the version numbers). At that point, we can
> start on 4.1.4-RC5

Thank you for reconsidering and for staying as RM!
Looking forward to test 4.1.4 RC5 under Windows 7 and 10 as soon as it is 
available.

Pedro

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Re: [VOTE] Release Apache OpenOffice 4.1.4-RC4 as GA

[Pedro Lino]

+1 (non-binding)

Installed AOO414m4(Build 9787) - Rev. 1809226 - 2017-09-21 23:35

Portuguese (pt-PT) full install + en_US language pack

Tested and approved under Windows 7 x64 and Windows 10 x64

Thanks to all!

On 30/09/2017 20:54, Jim Jagielski wrote:

I am calling a VOTE on releasing Apache OpenOffice 4.1.4-RC4
as GA!!

You can find these gems at:

   https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/openoffice/4.1.4-RC4/

The vote will last at least the normal 72 hours.

Cheers!
--
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On behalf of the Apache OpenOffice Project

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Re: AAO writer RC-2

[pedro . lino]

I can't figure out why this issue wasn't simply added to Bugzilla and the file 
attached to the bug...
Or reported on the QA mailing list?

AOO RC2 under Windows 7 x64 does not crash with the sample document following 
the steps described by Greg.

Maybe this is a Ubuntu only problem?

Regards,
Pedro

> The provided Document shared via googledrive
> 
> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B0-to9zwOIz0WUNyNUNmUlRJVzQ/view?usp=sharing
> 
> 
> 
> All the best
> Peter
> 
> On 28.08.2017 03:28, Greg Madden wrote:
>> I am willing to supply a test doc. Dropbox is my only file sharing
>> possibility..it does not seem suited for this.
>>
>> I can email anyone a file (Matthias?) to use or post to devs.
>>
>>
>> Greg M
>>
>> On 08/27/2017 02:55 AM, Matthias Seidel wrote:
>>> Maybe Gregg could create a test document and send us a link?
>>> I would be interested to test it on Windows and Ubuntu.
>>>
>>> Also, as it happens in Writer it could be related to the other bug.
>>>
>>> Regards, Matthias
>>>
>>>
>>> Am 27.08.2017 um 12:35 schrieb Patricia Shanahan:
 Thanks for this report. I am working on another bug so I can't get to
 it immediately.

 It would be helpful to get as much characterization as possible. Does
 it happen on other operating systems? How many styles are necessary to
 reproduce the bug?

 On 8/26/2017 10:39 PM, Greg Madden wrote:
> Debian stable, the following.
>
> Apache_OpenOffice_4.1.4_Linux_x86-64_install-deb_en-US.tar.gz RC-2
>
> Long time user, have all my forms for my work created with Writer as
> templates using  "Tables" and the current stable AOO.
>
> RC-2 has introduced some unstable behavior. Create a 10x34 row/column
> table. I use  4 different styles on my table, modify the styles first.
>
> Select some cells, use "merge cells" apply style to new cell(s)
>
> Writer crashes..disappears with no error message. Restart the recovery
> process is working. Sometimes it crashes during the cell selection
> process, other times with the "merge cell" button. sometimes quickly
> some slowly, but a crash occurs.
>
> Hope this is helpful, the current version works perfectly..thank you,
> would like to help make the next release as reliable.
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Re: [VOTE][RESULT] Release Apache OpenOffice 4.1.4-RC5 as GA

[Pedro Lino]

Maybe we need to ask for review of 
http://www.apache.org/legal/release-policy.html#release-approval at 
the same time as looking at the voting process documentation. If taken 
literally, a PMC member who cannot do builds from source can't cast a 
+1 vote, because their vote is binding and a binding +1 requires a 
build from source.


Probably the ASF wants to guarantee that at least 3 PMC members are 
developers (or development inclined)?


What I would like is to change it to require at least three PMC 
members to declare they have done a build from source and tested the 
result. Other PMC members could vote based on binary testing and 
signature checking without building.


Actually for a multi-platform software such as AOO it should be required 
that building from source and testing the result was carried out by at 
least one voter (PMC member or not) for each of the platforms/bit depths.
If all three PMC members have success in building on e.g. Linux x64 it 
does not provide any guarantee for the other platforms (as proven by 
4.1.4 RC4)


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Re: [VOTE][RESULT] Release Apache OpenOffice 4.1.4-RC5 as GA

[Pedro Lino]

On 18/10/2017 19:02, Andrea Pescetti wrote:

This is OK as long as the Apache Policy doesn't get in the way too 
much... I mean, I highly appreciate when people provide a list of what 
they did to justify their +1. But this shouldn't be used "against" them.


+1 (as a user)

ASF does a hell of a job to discourage participation! I particularly 
like this gem "the basic rule is that only PMC members have binding 
votes, *and all others are either discouraged from voting (to keep the 
noise down)* or else have their votes considered of an indicative or 
advisory nature only.


I'm glad AOO PMC members take these recommendations with a pinch of salt.

Kind regards,
Pedro

Re: [VOTE][RESULT] Release Apache OpenOffice 4.1.4-RC5 as GA

[Pedro Lino]

Hi Dave, all


(1) PMC members have a higher bar for their vote. I did not vote at all because 
I did not build from source etc.


I agree that it is good that some users replicate the building procedure 
and confirm that it works.

Replicability is a good measure of transparency and quality.
In any case I couldn't find that particular requirement for a PMC member 
in the voting page (https://www.apache.org/foundation/voting.html). 
Maybe that is being too strict?



(2) Would you name projects where you have felt discouraged? Have you felt 
discouraged here in past years?


This is the only Apache project I collaborate with (I have been 
collaborating with several other FOSS projects for a long time). 
Actually just reading the ASF rules discouraged me to become a committer 
(I was invited in the past) and still does.


We know everyone helping is needed. It was great to have a long 
standing member of the user community like Larry vote to alert us to a 
problem with macOS!


Agreed. That is why the "*and all others are either discouraged from 
voting (to keep the noise down)*" is particularly unnecessary (if not 
offensive).


Regards,
Pedro

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Re: [VOTE][RESULT] Release Apache OpenOffice 4.1.4-RC5 as GA

[Pedro Lino]

So the practice is much saner than the theory and nobody discarded 
Larry's -1 saying it was not coming from a PMC member. Any correctly 
justified -1 will of course be treated in the same way, regardless of 
who casts it.


I'm aware of that. That is exactly why I applauded AOO's PMC members 
attitude





just reading the ASF rules discouraged me to become a committer
(I was invited in the past) and still does


I did a presentation at ApacheCon a few years ago, called "Bending the 
Rules: Community over Code over Policy", explaining that policy should 
never come first and presenting some examples where we had to, say, 
"interpret" a dumb policy to do the right thing that would not hamper 
the community. It's still buried at 
https://community.apache.org/speakers/slides.html and that is still my 
point of view. But also something that concretely happens in OpenOffice.


Actually I had already read your presentation. As I mentioned in a 
previous email I believe the community currently working on AOO is 
healthier and wiser than in the Oracle period. I'm just not sure about 
the "Apache way"... Seems like a very strict organization which is does 
not have the right mindset for a software that should IMO be for the 
benefit of the users (not for developers to have fun ;) )



Agreed. That is why the "*and all others are either discouraged from
voting (to keep the noise down)*" is particularly unnecessary (if not
offensive).


I trust Dave will get that unfortunate wording amended in 
https://www.apache.org/foundation/voting.html - but again, that is 
about technical voting (on a code commit) and not release voting. In 
this sense, the sentence is a bit easier to justify (i.e., if you are 
expressing an opinion on a controversial code commit you are supposed 
to have familiarity with the code).


That was just an example... Actually the wording in the Release voting 
is even worse. What is all the SHOUTING for?
I'm glad all these rules are there to protect all PMC members with an 
"insurance and a legal shield"!
And I'm glad you guys volunteered to be a PMC because this is the 
opposite of having fun ;)


Best regards,
Pedro

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Re: QA Improvements on 4.2.0

[Pedro Lino]

Hi Raphael, all

> I believe the 4.1.4 shows us, that we have to do a better job in QA. A  
> minor release should never go to a rc5. I believe we all (and I pointing  
> my finger to myself) underestimated the regression risk at the 4.1.4.

+1

> So, to do a better job in the 4.2.0 I propose the following changes.
> 
> - Define test areas, where tester should keep an extra eye on it. (based  
> on the changes)
> - Doing Developer Snapshots again in a 2 Week frequency (or so)
> - Switch the AOO Profile for the snapshots to AOO-Dev
> - mobilize the willing testers to keep a critical eye on this builds
> - maybe also run the automated tests for Apache OpenOffice.

As a user/tester/part-timeQA I agree to all points.

But, please include Language packs in Developer Snapshots. Running a build with 
an un-matching language pack causes very serious usability problems (this is 
IMO the only advantage of including all languages in a single installer).

Creating a blank AOO-Dev profile is a two edged sword: you get a clean start 
(and avoid trashing the user's work profile) but it isn't a realistic usage 
(and therefore testing will not find those day to day problems that resulted in 
the need to go to RC5)
Maybe a middle term would be to create a separate Dev profile that is a copy of 
the user's profile (including all extensions)?

> The idea is to make the bug cycle shorter. Improvements should be tested  
> right after the implementation and not short before the release. A fresh  
> bug is easier to fix as a old one.

That is the ideal situation. But requires more communication (the QA mailing 
list is unused for months) and especially more man power (on all platforms!). 
The only way to get more users is to add needed/missing features and get 
visibility...

Regards,
Pedro

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Re: AOO 4.1.5-dev builds

[Pedro Lino]

> Let's test! ;-)
> 


It's a bit difficult since neither the OP nor joesch describe the steps to test 
DDE in https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=127601

However if the idea is to load dde-test.odt and then Update the values so that 
the values in odt reflect a change in the ods, then I do not get a crash but 
the values are never updated under Windows 10 (see attached image).

In fact these values are not updated regardless of the AOO or LO version used 
under Windows 10...

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Re: AOO 4.1.5-dev builds

[Pedro Lino]

Hi Matthias, all


> We have buildbots building 4.1.4 every week...
> 


In my opinion that is a waste of electric power and computing resources


> Would it make sense to switch them to 4.1.5?
> 


That would make a little more sense...

It should be enough to change the Snap buildbots that are currently still 
building 4.1.2 snapshots on a daily basis (or so I assume since it is 
impossible for Apache to details of the files but the page is built every day)

https://ci.apache.org/projects/openoffice/install/winsnap/

and

https://ci.apache.org/projects/openoffice/install/linsnap/


Regards,

Pedro



> Am 22.11.2017 um 13:31 schrieb Damjan Jovanovic:
> 
> > > What's the alternative to going to 4.2.0?
> > 
> > I only test trunk. So it's 4.1.x that lacks testing from me.
> > 
> > We also really should start running the various tests and comparing 
> > results
> > from trunk against 4.1's.
> > 
> > On Wed, Nov 22, 2017 at 2:05 PM, Patricia Shanahan wrote:
> > 
> > > > > I see 4.1.5-dev as a device for testing whether a bug is 
> > due to a specific
> > > problem. That change is already checked in to the trunk.
> > > 
> > > We still have to decide whether to go straight to 4.2.0. The 
> > > upside is, as
> > > Damjam points out, that we need to get the general benefits 
> > > of 4.2 out in
> > > the field. The downside is that, because of more changes, 
> > > 4.2.0 has a
> > > higher risk of regression. Should 4.2.0 go through field 
> > > beta-testing?
> > > 
> > > Going to 4.2.0 would simplify my activities. Because of 
> > > better debug
> > > building and on general principles, I do my debug and fixing 
> > > in trunk. I
> > > then have to back port the fixes to the 4.1.x line.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > On 11/22/2017 2:37 AM, Damjan Jovanovic wrote:
> > > 
> > > > > > > Thank you, but when are these 4.1.x releases 
> > > going to stop?
> > > > 
> > > > We have so much lined up for 4.2.0.
> > > > 
> > > > Damjan
> > > > 
> > > > On Mon, Nov 20, 2017 at 5:49 PM, Jim Jagielski wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > I have both macOS and Linux-64bit builds of 4.1.5-dev 
> > > > (HEAD on the
> > > > 
> > > > > > > > > AOO415 branch) available for fun and 
> > > > games (and testing) at:
> > > > > 
> > > > > http://home.apache.org/~jim/AOO-builds/
> > > > > 
> > > > > I've built all langs but have just uploaded: de, 
> > > > > en-US, es, fr
> > > > > and ja (for now). Let me know if people want/need 
> > > > > others
> > > > > uploaded.
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Re: AOO 4.1.5-dev builds

[Pedro Lino]

> 
> > > 
> > > > > We have buildbots building 4.1.4 every week...
> > > 
> > > > > In my opinion that is a waste of electric power and computing 
> > > resources
> > 
> > > Well, it is important for the release process, but 4.1.4 is out 
> > now...
> 


Exactly my point.

If the idea is to test changes in the build environment with a known good 
source, it should be enough to run when/if the build environment is modified...

If this can not be controlled/detected then maybe create a env_test folder (and 
create the respective src, win, linux32 and linux64 folders inside it)


> We are building trunk daily/nightly and branch (4.1.4) on a weekly base.
> That could be easily switched to 4.1.5 although the naming of the bots
> wouldn't change. I could try to get more generic names for them in the
> future.
> 


Maybe rename the folders from Snapshot to Development? Both are 
daily/nightly/weekly builds except one is from Trunk and the other should be 
from the Development branch. E.g. win_trunk and win_dev ?

Re: Spell checking in French

[Pedro Lino]

Hi Andrea, all




P.S. I can volunteer to kick off a similar list of the available AOO
languages (and links to the extensions) if the devs agree that it makes
sense to link to such a page.


At least a collection of links to Dictionaries that are not marked as 
such would be useful, thanks!


Maybe my message was not so clear. My offer was to kick a user friendly 
landing page like the one from Mozilla.


Checking the tags is probably easier for someone with DB access. In fact 
there is a HUGE discrepancy in the results. If you look for the tag 
"dictionary" it reports 99 entries. However if you type dictionary in 
the Search box you will see the number 136 (which I assume are the 
matching entries) but clicking on the Search button will return 159 
results...


Regards,
Pedro

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Re: Spell checking in French

[Pedro Lino]

Hi Marcus, all

Actually the fastest way to add a dictionary should be clicking on 
Tools, Languages, More Dictionaries Online


More Dictionaries Online should point to a user friendly page like 
Mozilla's

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/language-tools/

The problem is that the menu item launches a weblink to 
https://extensions.openoffice.org/dictionaries?lang=en-US (where 
lang=value depends on the AOO interface language) which is then 
translated to 
https://extensions.openoffice.org/en/search?f%5B0%5D=field_project_tags%3A157 
(the same as clicking on the Dictionaries button on the Extensions website)


However searching for the words spelling or dictionaries returns many 
more results than the Dictionaries button (for instance none of the 
Portuguese tools show up when clicking Dictionaries)
This means that the search key is not working as expected (maybe not all 
extensions have the needed tag?)


Should I open a Bugzilla issue about this?

Regards,
Pedro

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languages (and links to the extensions) if the devs agree that it makes 
sense to link to such a page.


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Re: [ANNOUNCE] Availability of AOO-4.1.5 RC1

[Pedro Lino]

Hi all


Available for immediate testing are the source tarballs/zips and
community builds of Apache OpenOffice 4.1.5-RC1.

As noted, these are Release Candidates and are not official,
GA releases, although based on testing, the could become so.
So PLEASE test these out!



Installed and tested 4.1.5 pt + en_US language pack on Win10 Home x64 
from scratch - works as expected
Updated 4.1.4 pt + en_US language pack to 4.1.5 pt + en_US language pack 
on Win10 Home x64 from scratch - works as expected


On a side note: it would be great for this project if small changes like 
this one could be provided as an update (like Mozilla Firefox) instead 
of a full installer download. This would be the most meaningful new 
feature for those who have slow and/or expensive internet access 
(probably those who would benefit more from using AOO)

Any chance that a bounty can be offered to add such a feature?

Regards,
Pedro

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Re: floating frame crash the calc

[Pedro Lino]

Hi Michael

You wrote to the Developers mailing list.

In the future please write to the user support list
https://openoffice.apache.org/mailing-lists.html#users-mailing-list-public

or at the user forum
https://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/

Regarding your specific problem,


Hello, I have one problem with floating objests ih calc, office crash when
I try to insert them. have you some solutions for that?

Win10, 8GB ram


Which OpenOffice version are you using?
Please describe in detail the steps to reproduce the problem at
https://bz.apache.org/ooo/

Thank you for contributing to a better Apache OpenOffice for all.

Regards,
Pedro

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Re: shrunken display of file.

[Pedro Lino]

Answered to user directly.

On 03/11/2017 23:05, denysm...@frontier.com wrote:

I rubbed my hand over the touch pad and the text file I had been writing into 
shrunk to about one third the width of the screen. I have been unable to rub it 
back and when I open a new document it also is shrunken.
Help
Sincerely Denys MacKellar

Sent from Mail for Windows 10





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Re: [PROPOSAL] Public Beta for 4.2

[Pedro Lino]

Hi Jim, all


> I do have a question about the BUILD number...
> 
> Say we release 4.1.5 and that build number is 9799. We then
> release start doing betas and RCs for 4.2.0 and use 9800,
> 9801 and 9802. We then find out we need to release a 4.1.6.
> Is that BUILD number now 9803?
> 


Wouldn't it be possible for the Build number to make some sense?

It would be much easier if build number was related to the actual version? How 
about Build 41510 for 4.1.5 RC1, 41520 for RC2, etc? To make sure the build is 
greater than 9800 I added a 5th digit that could even be used for something 
else...

This applies also to other version numbers in files

https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=126603


Just my 2 (non-dev) cents

Re: [PROPOSAL] Managing branches for future releases

[Pedro Lino]

Hi Andrea, all

On 24/10/2017 21:25, Andrea Pescetti wrote:

This will ensure that we can shift the focus to trunk while still 
keeping a branch that remains ready for a quick release if needed. If 
we are never in this situation, the next release will be from the 
current trunk and AOO415 will never result in a release.



+1
One of the major criticisms to AOO is that it took too long to fix some 
security issue and left the "community" at risk. So it is a good plan to 
have a branch in ready-to-launch state.


Pedro

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Apache OpenOffice 4.1.4 released

[Pedro Lino]

> 
> > > I think we as a community need to be more concerned about our 
> public perception in the future.
> > 
> > Especially in Germany there are a lot of articles in which AOO is 
> > poorly presented, currently e. g:
> > http://www.pro-linux.de/news/1/25256/openoffice-414-freigegeben.html
> > 
> > > "Haters gonna hate..."
> 

+1

Yes, development is slow. Yes, it would be great if there were more developers. 
And yet AOO does not move forward when regressions are found. From my 
perspective that is important. But most importantly, I'm glad that there isn't 
only one office suite that supports ODF. Diversity is good ;)

Just my 2 cents.

Re: 4.2.0 minor errors

[Pedro Lino]

Bump!


Just installed AOO420m1(Build:9800) - Rev. 1830998
2018-05-05_20:25:59 - Rev. 1831002

on Ubuntu 14.04 and the installation problem still occurs.


Should I open an entry in the tracker?


> On February 11, 2018 at 11:01 PM Mechtilde <o...@mechtilde.de 
> mailto:o...@mechtilde.de > wrote:
> 
> 
> Hello,
> 
> this message commes also when you install via dpkg -i.
> 
> If you install openoffice-core01*.deb again, it works.
> 
> As dpkg as apt use the same internal database whera all installed files
> are saved.
> 
> Every time a file comes in anothere package now this message appears.
> 
> Regards
> 
> Mechtilde
> 
> Am 11.02.2018 um 23:05 schrieb Andrea Pescetti:
> 
> > > On 11/02/2018 Pedro Lino wrote:
> > 
> > > > > dpkg: error processing archive 
> > openoffice-core01_4.2.0-1_amd64.deb
> > > (--install):
> > > trying to overwrite 
> > > '/opt/openoffice4/program/gconfbe1.uno.so', which
> > > is also in package openoffice-gnome-integration 4.1.5-1
> > > Errors were encountered while processing:
> > > openoffice-core01_4.2.0-1_amd64.deb
> > > 
> > > > > What command line are you using? Are you installing all 
> > > packages
> > altogether? I mean, I would expect that all files in 
> > /opt/openoffice4/
> > are overwritten by files from the newer packages, and this is just
> > normal; but in your case it looks like there is a mismatch between 
> > the
> > old "owner" of that file (package openoffice-gnome-integration) and 
> > the
> > new candidate owner (openoffice-core01).
> > 
> > Assuming you are upgrading multiple deb packages with the same
> > command-line, what happens if you add openoffice-gnome-integration 
> > (from
> > the proper directory) to it?
> > 
> > Regards,
> >   Andrea.
> > 
> > 
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Re: [Call for testing] AOO 4.2.0 for Windows built with MozillaBuild 3.x

[Pedro Lino]

Hi Matthias, all


> Next Windows build now with MozillaBuild 3.2:
> https://home.apache.org/~mseidel/AOO-builds/AOO-420-Test/
> 


Installed full pt version plus en_US language pack under Windows 7 x64

Used it for real work all day. Approved ;)


Regards,

Pedro

Re: 4.2.0 minor errors

[Pedro Lino]

> On May 7, 2018 at 5:57 PM Matthias Seidel <matthias.sei...@hamburg.de 
> mailto:matthias.sei...@hamburg.de > wrote:
> 
> 
> Am 06.05.2018 um 20:04 schrieb Pedro Lino:
> 
> > > Should I open an entry in the tracker?
> > 
> > > Yes, please.
> 
> This happens when updating from 4.1.5 to 4.2.0?
> 


Done.

https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=127774

and Yes :)


Interestingly the Rev numbers in the last version I testes are different in the 
2 lines copied from the same About dialog :)

AOO420m1(Build:9800) - Rev. 1830998
2018-05-05_20:25:59 - Rev. 1831002


But this is from the Buildbot, so no worries :)

Re: Checking update failed

[Pedro Lino]

I had replied earlier but directly to the OP.

Something is very wrong on the Apache server


ping ooo-updates.apache.org
PING ooo-updates.apache.org (40.79.78.1) 56(84) bytes of data.
^C
--- ooo-updates.apache.org ping statistics ---
108 packets transmitted, 0 received, 100% packet loss, time 106999ms


There is no connection. The OS is irrelevant.


> On May 11, 2018 at 9:49 PM Matthias Seidel  mailto:matthias.sei...@hamburg.de > wrote:
> 
> 
> Am 11.05.2018 um 09:56 schrieb FR web forum:
> 
> > > Hello list,
> > 
> > > 
> > > I have an old 4.1.2 build.
> > I run Help > Check for update... menu
> > Status: failed
> > Error reading data from the internet
> > I am alone with this error?
> > 
> > > No, you are not alone... ;-)
> Normally it works for me (4.1.5 on Ubuntu) if I do a second check.
> 
> See: https://www.mail-archive.com/dev@openoffice.apache.org/msg33425.html
> 
> What OS are you on?
> 
> Regards,
>Matthias
> 
> >
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Re: Checking update failed

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> On June 11, 2018 at 11:13 PM Matthias Seidel  mailto:matthias.sei...@hamburg.de > wrote:
> 
> 
> Am 11.06.2018 um 23:40 schrieb Marcus:
> 
> > > Am 08.06.2018 um 19:01 schrieb Matthias Seidel:
> > 
> > > > > The first bug report from a user:
> > > https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=127789
> > > 
> > > AOO update fails due to the non-responding servers 
> > > (timeout?), Extension
> > > update fails since SourceForge moved to the new datacenter 
> > > (missing
> > > protocol?).
> > > 
> > > That said, I can reproduce the issue with AOO 4.1.5, while 
> > > everything
> > > works fine with AOO 4.2.0-dev (on Windows)
> > > 
> > > > > with a previous version (e.g., 4.1.3) I get a message that 
> > > 4.1.5 is
> > available.
> > 
> > So, it is actually a problem of SF.net that there is no hint that
> > 4.1.5 is the current version and no newer updates are available?
> > 
> > > 


Curiously enough, according to Sourceforge the latest activity was 1 year ago...


https://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/?source=directory


I know AOO is not exactly very active but Sourceforge isn't helping either...


Regards,

Pedro

Re: Starting the 4.2.0 localization

[Pedro Lino]

Hi Andrea, all

- The problem (not a problem actually; just the need to translate some 
hundreds strings again) I had empirically found for Italian indeed 
affects all languages. If you download a non-English build from 
https://ci.apache.org/projects/openoffice/install/linux64/ or 
https://ci.apache.org/projects/openoffice/install/win/ create a new 
Impress document and right-click on the slide you will see the context 
menu in English. Example for German: 
https://s13.postimg.org/4acjbnr3b/screen.png


Problem confirmed with Portuguese build (AOO420m1(Build:9800)  - Rev. 
1819451 from BuildBot but also with Matthias' latest build 
AOO420m1(Build:9800)  -  Rev. 1819072) under Windows



Next tests (for me or for anyone else who wants to try) would be:
1. Run the same process (2 and 3) on AOO415 and see if the match is 
perfect there (no warnings)
2. Build both AOO415 and trunk with the new SDF file and see if 
translations from Pootle are picked up properly.


Apparently AOO 420 is 100% translated to Portuguese on Pootle so it 
might be a good test Language.
If you can do the build process I would gladly volunteer to check any 
binaries for untranslated menus/interfaces  (after New Year obviously ;) ).


Regards,
Pedro

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Re: Windows developent plan

[Pedro Lino]

> Thats the points I am aware of. Are there more Windows specific points?

Does upgrade from MSVC2008 mean dropping support for Win XP? The recently 
released LO 6.0 32bit requires at least Windows 7...

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Re: 4.2.0 minor errors

[Pedro Lino]

I'm not sure if this is related but the last version that updates correctly 
from 4.1.5 is r1816311 from Jim's archive

All newer versions return

dpkg: error processing archive openoffice-core01_4.2.0-1_amd64.deb (--install):
trying to overwrite '/opt/openoffice4/program/gconfbe1.uno.so', which is also 
in package openoffice-gnome-integration 4.1.5-1

Errors were encountered while processing:
openoffice-core01_4.2.0-1_amd64.deb

Hope this helps.

> On February 11, 2018 at 4:28 PM Matthias Seidel wrote:
> 
> 
> Am 09.02.2018 um 13:48 schrieb Jim Jagielski:
> 
> > > Can you try the versions from:
> > 
> > o http://people.apache.org/~jim/AOO-builds/AOO-4.2.0-dev-r1823225/
> > 
> > > I have still the same problem with this build.
> 
> Matthias
> 
> >
> 
> > > Thx!
> > 
> > > > > On Feb 9, 2018, at 4:24 AM, Rory O'Farrell wrote:
> > > 
> > > When I use 4.2.0, running on Xubuntu 16.04.03, to open an 
> > > existing .odt file I get a small popup that informs me of "general 
> > > error". The file then opens correctly; starting 4.2.0 in a terminal gives 
> > > no diagnostic. Opening Writer from the start centre there is no such 
> > > error message; I can generate a test document, but when I save, again I 
> > > get an error "Error saving the document Tom: General Error". However the 
> > > file Tom.odt is actually saved (in spite of the error message), and will 
> > > reopen giving the above "general error" message,
> > > 
> > > Opening an existing simple spreadsheet - a short list of 
> > > description and amount - I get a Yellow exclamation mark and "Not all 
> > > attributes could be read"; on dismissing this, the sheet opens correctly.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --
> > > Rory O'Farrell
> > > 
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Re: 4.2.0 minor errors

[Pedro Lino]

> What command line are you using? Are you installing all packages 
> altogether? I mean, I would expect that all files in /opt/openoffice4/ 
> are overwritten by files from the newer packages, and this is just 
> normal; but in your case it looks like there is a mismatch between the 
> old "owner" of that file (package openoffice-gnome-integration) and the 
> new candidate owner (openoffice-core01).

I use
sudo dpkg -i *.deb
cd desktop-integration
sudo dpkg -i *.deb
 
> Assuming you are upgrading multiple deb packages with the same 
> command-line, what happens if you add openoffice-gnome-integration (from 
> the proper directory) to it?

It works without errors but then I can't execute any of the AOO links in the 
Gnome Applications/Office menu

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Re: Windows developent plan

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> > We had a discussion about special small update versions for Windows, 
> > some time ago.
> 
> We had experimented with patches some years ago, but never released them 
> officially.

That would be a great evolution for AOO (LO has finally added that feature in 
version 6). In fact saving people from downloading a full installer would be 
useful on all OSes...

Another relevant change under Windows would be to get rid of the unpacking step 
that leaves an installation folder on the desktop (or manage to get the 
installer to delete the installation folder as the last step)

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Re: Windows developent plan

[Pedro Lino]

Hi Matthias


> 
> > > That would be a great evolution for AOO (LO has finally added 
> that feature in version 6).
> > 
> > > AFAIK that feature didn't make it into 6.0:
> https://fosdem.org/2018/schedule/event/ode_automatic_updater/
> 
> 


I read this version would include it but didn't confirm (I have switched to 
OpenOffice mostly) But it will eventually be added in 6.x


I believe partial updates are a major benefit for all users, especially those 
who have limited/expensive access to the Internet. Providing fixes/updates at a 
low cost is a critical contribution for breaking down the digital divide.

In addition automatic partial updates are better for inexperienced users since 
they only require a one time full install (usually performed by a friend/family 
who is more computer savvy)


Best,
Pedro

Re: download of AOO

[Pedro Lino]

Maybe that is a UCBrowser problem or a temporary slow access to Sourceforge 
(the link in your report works perfectly at my end)

In any case you can always download directly from Apache's server

http://archive.apache.org/dist/openoffice/4.1.5/binaries/ru/Apache_OpenOffice_4.1.5_Win_x86_install_ru.exe

Hope this helps.

Pedro


> On February 18, 2018 at 5:31 PM Wladimir Gormakov wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi, I have a little problem now
> *Problem description*
> 
> 
> 
> *The download process does not startand I see an HTML page in a distorted
> scale & style :-( My OS - Windows XP SP3, UCBrouser
> v7.0.185.1002 W hat should I do to receive an update o f AOO? *
> *Browser variables**Values*
> navigator.appCodeName Mozilla
> navigator.appName Netscape
> navigator.appVersion 5.0 (Windows NT 5.1) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like
> Gecko) Chrome/55.0.2883.87 UBrowser/7.0.185.1002 Safari/537.36
> navigator.platform Win32
> navigator.oscpu undefined
> navigator.cpuClass undefined
> navigator.product Gecko
> navigator.productSub 20030107
> navigator.vendor Google Inc.
> navigator.vendorSub
> navigator.language ru
> navigator.browserLanguage undefined
> navigator.userLanguage undefined
> navigator.systemLanguage undefined
> navigator.userAgent Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1) AppleWebKit/537.36 
> (KHTML,
> like Gecko) Chrome/55.0.2883.87 UBrowser/7.0.185.1002 Safari/537.36
> Debian / Ubuntu / IceWeasel ? No / No / No
> *Stable Release*
> *JavaScript functions/variables**Values*
> Language ISO code ru
> Language ISO code (from select box) ru
> Release matrix platform position (full) 11
> Release matrix platform position (lp) 12
> Release matrix platform array data y,130
> Release matrix language array data ru,Russian,Русский,y,ru/
> UI platform name Windows (EXE)
> UI platform name (not supported)
> Platform (short) win32
> URL platform name (full) Win_x86_install
> URL platform name (lp) Win_x86_langpack
> URL platform name (from select box) win32
> Version (from select box) 4.1.5
> File name (full) Apache_OpenOffice_4.1.5_Win_x86_install_ru.exe
> File name (lp) Apache_OpenOffice_4.1.5_Win_x86_langpack_ru.exe
> File extension .exe
> File size (full) (MByte) 130
> File size (lp) (MByte) 13
> Release info Milestone AOO415m1 | Build ID 9789 | SVN r1817496 | Released
> 2017-12-30
> Download file link (full)
> 
> https://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/files/4.1.5/binaries/ru/Apache_OpenOffice_4.1.5_Win_x86_install_ru.exe/download
> Download file link (lp)
> 
> https://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/files/4.1.5/binaries/ru/Apache_OpenOffice_4.1.5_Win_x86_langpack_ru.exe/download
> Checksum file link (full) (here for MD5)
> 
> https://archive.apache.org/dist/openoffice/4.1.5/binaries/ru/Apache_OpenOffice_4.1.5_Win_x86_install_ru.exe.md5
> Checksum file link (lp) (here for MD5)
> 
> https://archive.apache.org/dist/openoffice/4.1.5/binaries/ru/Apache_OpenOffice_4.1.5_Win_x86_langpack_ru.exe.md5
> Base URL to Sourceforge.net
> 
> https://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/files/4.1.5/binaries/
> Base URL to Apache Archive 
> https://archive.apache.org/dist/openoffice/4.1.5
> getLinkSelection() (download URL) undefined
> isLanguageSupported() (true/false) ? true
> Show the sub-box (true/false) ? true
> General error (true/false) ? false
> 
> Thanks !
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> *Владимир Гормаков*
> 

Correct sentence about OpenOffice

[Pedro Lino]

Hi all

The startcenter.desktop file says "The office productivity suite compatible to 
the open and standardized ODF document format. Supported by Apache OpenOffice."

Shouldn't this be "The office productivity suite compatible *with* the open and 
standardized ODF document format. Supported by the *Apache Software 
Foundation*." or "Supported by the *OpenOffice community*" (as mentioned in the 
About dialog)?

I can do the changes, just need an agreement on who supoorts OpenOffice: the 
ASF or the OpenOffice community? Or both?

Thanks!

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Re: Correct sentence about OpenOffice

[Pedro Lino]

Hi Matthias


> Yes, that wording always irritated me...
> 
> On Windows the tooltips says:
> The office productivity suite compatible to the open and standardized
> ODF document format. Supported by The Apache Software Foundation.
> 


I will then switch "compatible to" to "compatible with"

and "Supported by the Apache OpenOffice" to "Supported by the Apache Software 
Foundation."

(with a lowercase "the" since it is the ASF, not the TASF :) )

if there is no opposing feedback


Regards,

Pedro

Re: Correct sentence about OpenOffice

[Pedro Lino]

Hi Matthias

> Remember, the change would have to be localized for all available
> languages... ;-)
> 

Yes, in theory. But there are still references to Sun and Oracle so that rule 
has not been followed strictly ;)

In any case the important part is to do our best with the resources available 
(or stop and wait...)


> P.S.: Please allow at least 72 hours time for others to give their feedback.
> 

Of course. Actually I will only have time to do that next week, so there is 
plenty of time for others to speak up ;)


Regards,

Pedro

Re: Correct sentence about OpenOffice

[Pedro Lino]

Hi Matthias

> I know of some references to Oracle/SUN. But if there is one in a
> released language, it must be corrected!
> You do have a Pootle account? ;-)
> 


Isn't it the Pootle files that are not synced with the release?

Isn't it better to edit the .desktop file and just upload the changes to SVN?

> >
> 
> > > In any case the important part is to do our best with the 
> resources available (or stop and wait...)
> > 
> > > That is why we discuss here. But if we agree on a different 
> > wording it
> has impact on 41 languages.
> Of course that should be done by a native speaker and will take some time.
> 
> Such a change should also be announced on l10n@.
> 

There is no change in the text. It was a syntax error in the English version 
(not a change of meaning of the sentence).

There is no need to ask people from 41 languages to replace "Apache OpenOffice" 
by "Apache Software Foundation"

There is no translation involved


Regards,

Pedro

Re: Draft of a "Powered By" logo

[Pedro Lino]

Hi Keith, all


> Here is a link to a proposed "Powered By" Logo. All comments or offers
> to improve it are welcome.
> http://www.evernote.com/l/AY4y_8tHWYNGMpPJF1P2Glikiyhp58NZZ8o/
> 


Attached are a slightly improved version of pb_OpenOffice and a version 2 using 
the "black with stars" ring used in all the examples at

https://www.apache.org/foundation/press/kit/poweredBy/

(I don't understand why all logos are in the PSD proprietary format...)

both in svg and png


Also attached is a Blank template in SVG format so that someone in Apache can 
upload it to the poweredBy folder ;)


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Re: Draft of a "Powered By" logo

[Pedro Lino]

Hi Keith


Looks good ;)

Attached is the same in true vector hacked with the original Apache Powered by 
from

https://www.apache.org/foundation/press/kit/poweredBy/

joined with Matthias Seidel fixed AOO logo


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Re: Draft of a "Powered By" logo

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Hi Dave, all


> The Apache Powered By Ring is a standard. Please do not alter the style.
> 

???


> One thought that I had is our Powered by Apache OpenOffice could just put 
> the Gulls circle logo in the middle of the Ring
> 


Something like the attached image?


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Re: Draft of a "Powered By" logo

[Pedro Lino]

Hi David, all


> 
> > > 
> > 
> > > > > The Apache Powered By Ring is a standard. Please do not 
> > alter the style.
> > > 
> > > > > 
> > ???
> > 
> > > I meant that we should be using the Star version from the 
> > Foundation Powered By so that everything Apache aligns.
> 


Are you sure the Star version is the most recent? I just made it for fun... 
According to this page

https://www.apache.org/foundation/press/kit/

the grey-with-dots is the most recent (that is why I offered the Blank Template 
in SVG)


> 
> 
> > > 
> > 
> > > > >  
> > > One thought that I had is our Powered by Apache OpenOffice 
> > > could just put the Gulls circle logo in the middle of the Ring
> > > 
> > > > > 
> > 
> > 
> > Something like the attached image?
> > 
> > > Yes!
> 


Should it mention OpenOffice (assuming some people don't know the seagulls) or 
is it too much?


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Re: Draft of a "Powered By" logo

[Pedro Lino]

Hi Marcus

> the graphic looks great. When it contains also the new Apache feather, 
> then it's perfect.

The Apache feather is not part of the AOO logo so there is no requirement to 
include it
https://www.apache.org/foundation/press/kit/poweredBy/Template.PNG

as you can see from the jpg logos of many of the Apache projects
https://www.apache.org/foundation/press/kit/poweredBy

In any case if someone wants to add it in or has a suggestion where to add it I 
can do it.

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Re: Draft of a "Powered By" logo

[Pedro Lino]

Hi Matthias


> But if you export it to bitmap the inner area is transparent. I think the 
> logo should have white background.
> 

It was deliberate. but I agree that in most cases it will work better with a 
white background.

Done ;)

My hack (I am not an artist) is based on existing Apache art and is obviously 
released under the Apache License


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Re: Please test the new MWiki: https://wikitest.openoffice.org

[Pedro Lino]

Hi Andrea

> Our MWiki needs to be moved to a new server since Infra is replacing old 
> hardware. It took some work and some help from Infra, but a test 
> instance is now available on a new server at
> 
> https://wikitest.openoffice.org
> 
> Please test it as follows:
> - if you don't have an account, just browse the pages and check that 
> everything looks good
> - if you have an account, please login with the same username/password 
> you use for MWiki and check that you can edit pages normally.

I have a login for site https://cwiki.apache.org but the pages there seem 
really empty
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Wiki+Home

On the other hand the cwiki login data won't work on the wikitest.
Am I missing something?

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Re: Please test the new MWiki: https://wikitest.openoffice.org

[Pedro Lino]

> On July 16, 2018 at 6:50 PM "Keith N. McKenna"  mailto:keith.mcke...@comcast.net > wrote:
> 
> 
> Account has been created and a temporary password has been mailed under
> separate cover. It should be changed to one of your choice at first
> login by going to preferences and clicking the change password link.
> 


Actually on first login the session opens directly on the change password page.

I have done that and started editing. Thanks!


On a separate note: the link in the "Account creation for Apache OpenOffice 
Wiki" email points to

<">https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Main_Page> 
https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Main_Page

where the ending "greater than" character is included in the link which could 
be confusing to some users since it lands on a "Bad title" page

Hope that is easy to fix!


Regards,

Pedro

Re: [Discussion] Increase font size in AOO help?

[Pedro Lino]

> On July 22, 2018 at 10:49 PM Kay Schenk  wrote:
> As someone who is annoyed almost daily with font issues, the difference
> between 10pt and 11pt is quite a bit. :)

+1

Please do make that change!

Anyone else having problems with Calc's Sheet name text size under Linux on a 
high DPI screen?

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Re: Please test the new MWiki: https://wikitest.openoffice.org

[Pedro Lino]

> On July 15, 2018 at 10:09 PM Andrea Pescetti  wrote:

> MWiki accounts are created on request (to this list) and they are not 
> the same as CWiki accounts. The current migration only concerns MWiki; 
> CWiki is already on the new servers.

Can you please create an MWiki account associated to this email address 
(pedro.l...@mailbox.org)?

Thanks!

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Re: Please test the new MWiki: https://wikitest.openoffice.org

[Pedro Lino]

Hi Keith


> On July 16, 2018 at 3:43 PM "Keith N. McKenna"  mailto:keith.mcke...@comcast.net > wrote:
> 
> Due you have a preference for your user name or is pedlino (your cwiki
> username) OK
> 


pedlino is fine. Thanks!


Regards,

Pedro

Proposal for adoption of corrected Apache OpenOffice logo file

[Pedro Lino]

Hi all

I don't know what is the appropriate procedure but would like to request a vote 
for the adoption of a corrected Apache OpenOffice logo vector file.

Most of you are aware that the current logo was created by Chris Rottensteiner .

Unfortunately all of the logos in vector format archived in the Apache 
OpenOffice (or at least all that I could find) left by ChrisR 
(http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openoffice/branding/AOO4/ ) have the same 
problem: the TM part is a text object.

This means that editing or viewing the SVG only looks as the author expected 
(http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openoffice/branding/AOO4/Apache_OpenOffice_Logo_ChrisR_selected_2013-06_with_4.pdf)
 it if the user's computer has font Source Sans Pro Light installed.

An easy way to see this is to click on the AOO logo at

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Apache_OpenOffice_logo_and_wordmark_(2014).svg

After clicking on the expected logo as PNG you will open the actual SVG which 
will be showing a wrong TM

Because of this small defect, there is no perfect SVG that can be used as 
Apache OpenOffice's official logo, and that is the reason why the current 
official logo available to Apache is a PDF

https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/comdev/project-logos/originals/

Luckily user Matthias Seidel has fixed this by converting the TM part to paths 
(as ChrisR did for the rest of the text)

This does NOT change the artwork in any way. It just guarantees that the vector 
logo looks the same under any OS regardless of the fonts installed.


TL:DR

Therefore I would like to propose a vote to approve file 
http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openoffice/branding/AOO4/Apache_OpenOffice_Logo_unofficial_mseidel_fixed_TM.svg

as the Apache OpenOffice official vector logo file


Best regards,

Pedro

Wrong distro detected?

[Pedro Lino]

Hi all


I'm running Debian GNU/Linux 9 (stretch) 32-bit but when I click on 
http://www.openoffice.org/download/index.html

I am offered the Linux 32bit RPM.

Can someone verify/fix this?


Regards,

Pedro

Re: Wrong distro detected?

[Pedro Lino]

> You are using Chrome?
> 
> 


No. I'm using the included browser Firefox ESR 52.9.0 (32 bit)

Re: Wrong distro detected?

[Pedro Lino]

> Can you post your User Agent?
> https://www.whoishostingthis.com/tools/user-agent/
> 
> Firefox on my system (Ubuntu 16.94) has:
> Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Ubuntu; Linux x86_64; rv:61.0) Gecko/20100101 
> Firefox/61.0
> 
> It identifies with "Ubuntu", so our website can guess the packaging 
> format.
> 


Interesting... There is no distro ID

Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.0

So this seems like a Mozilla bug then?

Re: Wrong distro detected?

[Pedro Lino]

> On September 1, 2018 at 10:15 PM Rory O'Farrell  wrote:

> I am now using Opera 55 on Xubuntu 18.04.01 54 bit.  Out of interest I 
> accessed the download site and it wanted to download Linux 64-bit (x86-64) 
> (RPM), whereas it should have been Linux 64-bit (x84-64) (DEB)
> 
> My User Agent details are
> Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) 
> Chrome/68.0.3440.106 Safari/537.36 OPR/55.0.2994.44
> 
> On a similar Xubuntu 18.04.01 64 bit machine, using Firefox I am offered OO 
> Linux 64-bit (x86-64) (DEB)
> 
> On that machine User Agent details are
> Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Ubuntu; Linux x86_64; rv:61.0) Gecko /20100101; Firefox/61.0

Thank you for the feedback Rory!
That confirms that it's not a Firefox limitation and when Distro is not 
specified it will default to RPM.
Does that make sense? 
In any case it's probably safe to say that the majority of desktop Linux users 
are running Ubuntu or a flavor/derivative (and those that aren't know which 
package to get!)

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Re: Wrong distro detected?

[Pedro Lino]

Hi Marcus

> On September 2, 2018 at 9:06 AM Marcus  wrote:

> when you have problems with the download please have a look here:
> https://www.openoffice.org/download/analyze.html

That is an useful tool (maybe the link to it should be "Report download 
problems" instead of "Report broken link")

Apparently the problem is even bigger: I'm now running Ubuntu 16.04.5 x64 and 
I'm still offered the RPMs (see table below)

Maybe something changed in Debian/Ubuntu?

Problem description Exchange this text to describe the problem

(What does not work? What do you expect?)
Browser variables   Values
navigator.appCodeName   Mozilla
navigator.appName   Netscape
navigator.appVersion5.0 (X11)
navigator.platform  Linux x86_64
navigator.oscpu Linux x86_64
navigator.cpuClass  undefined
navigator.product   Gecko
navigator.productSub20100101
navigator.vendor
navigator.vendorSub 
navigator.language  en-US
navigator.browserLanguage   undefined
navigator.userLanguage  undefined
navigator.systemLanguageundefined
navigator.userAgent Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 
Firefox/52.0
Debian / Ubuntu / IceWeasel ?   No / No / No
Stable Release   
JavaScript functions/variables  Values
Language ISO code   en-US
Language ISO code (from select box) en-US
Release matrix platform position (full) 3
Release matrix platform position (lp)   4
Release matrix platform array data  y,154
Release matrix language array data  en-US,English (US),English 
(US),y,download/index.html
UI platform nameLinux 64-bit (x86-64) (RPM)
UI platform name (not supported)
Platform (short)lnx64r
URL platform name (full)Linux_x86-64_install-rpm
URL platform name (lp)  Linux_x86-64_langpack-rpm
URL platform name (from select box) lnx64r
Version (from select box)   4.1.5
File name (full)
Apache_OpenOffice_4.1.5_Linux_x86-64_install-rpm_en-US.tar.gz
File name (lp)  Apache_OpenOffice_4.1.5_Linux_x86-64_langpack-rpm_en-US.tar.gz
File extension  .tar.gz
File size (full) (MByte)154
File size (lp) (MByte)  18
Release infoMilestone AOO415m1 | Build ID 9789 | SVN r1817496 | Released 
2017-12-30
Download file link (full)   
https://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/files/4.1.5/binaries/en-US/Apache_OpenOffice_4.1.5_Linux_x86-64_install-rpm_en-US.tar.gz/download
Download file link (lp) 
https://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/files/4.1.5/binaries/en-US/Apache_OpenOffice_4.1.5_Linux_x86-64_langpack-rpm_en-US.tar.gz/download
Checksum file link (full) (here for MD5)
https://archive.apache.org/dist/openoffice/4.1.5/binaries/en-US/Apache_OpenOffice_4.1.5_Linux_x86-64_install-rpm_en-US.tar.gz.md5
Checksum file link (lp) (here for MD5)  
https://archive.apache.org/dist/openoffice/4.1.5/binaries/en-US/Apache_OpenOffice_4.1.5_Linux_x86-64_langpack-rpm_en-US.tar.gz.md5
Base URL to Sourceforge.net 
https://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/files/4.1.5/binaries/
Base URL to Apache Archive  https://archive.apache.org/dist/openoffice/4.1.5
getLinkSelection() (download URL)   undefined
isLanguageSupported() (true/false) ?true
Show the sub-box (true/false) ? true
General error (true/false) ?false

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Re: Lazy consensus on adoption of corrected Apache OpenOffice logo file

[Pedro Lino]

Hi Matthias, all


> On September 2, 2018 at 9:36 AM Matthias Seidel  mailto:matthias.sei...@hamburg.de > wrote:
> 
> >> My suggestion would rather be to "fix" the existing graphic by only
> >> converting the TM to paths.
> >
> 
> > > +1 for fixing the original one, instead of creating just a new 
> graphic.
> > 
> > > I just uploaded a "fixed" version. The only change is that the 
> > TM, which
> was in fact a text object (Source Sans Pro Light) is now converted to
> paths. This version should now display correct for everyone.
> 
> 
> http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openoffice/branding/AOO4/Apache_OpenOffice_Logo_ChrisR_selected_2013-06_plain_fixed_TM.svg
> 
> I had Source Sans Pro installed for some time, so I didn't see a
> difference... ;-)
> 


Aha! Now I see what you meant by whitespace :) I think it is not that useful 
but I agree that this follows the original author's proposal more closely.

So let's start again the 72h Lazy Consensus period based on this fixed image.

If there are no objections to this file, it will be used as the official vector 
file


>From my end (for what it's worth) +1 on this file


Regards,

Pedro

Re: Wrong distro detected?

[Pedro Lino]

> On September 2, 2018 at 9:49 AM Matthias Seidel  mailto:matthias.sei...@hamburg.de > wrote:
> 
> 
> > > Maybe something changed in Debian/Ubuntu?
> > 
> > > No, but is your version from the repos? It seems to be an ESR 
> > (plain
> Mozilla, no Ubuntu in the User Agent).
> 


There is no ESR version on the Ubuntu repos. That explains it (only Ubuntu 
files, report the Distro...)

So this means that the correct Distro information needs to be extracted from 
somewhere else.

Any ideas?

Would it be absurd to have a drop list for the user to select the distro? (with 
Ubuntu offered if automatically detected?)

Re: New Horizontal Line Icon Bottom Left of Screen

[Pedro Lino]

Hi Jon


> I've bought the professional version of Andropen Office Professional 
> under account jonathan.simpso...@gmail.com, great app.
> In the latest update have you updated the bottom bar to include access to 
> various Andropen Office options? I can't recall it being there previously. If 
> it is a recent addition is there an option to remove it?
> 
> I've tried your forums but without success.
> 


This is the mailing list for the Apache OpenOffice developers.

Andropen Office is based on Apache OpenOffice but "AndrOpen Office is not 
affiliated with the Apache OpenOffice and LibreOffice project." as mentioned by 
the author Akikazu Yoshikawa


You need to check the correct contact on the Google Play page or on the Android 
application.

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.andropenoffice=en_US 
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.andropenoffice=en_US

Hope this helps

Pedro

Lazy consensus on adoption of corrected Apache OpenOffice logo file

[Pedro Lino]

Hi Dave, all

> On August 30, 2018 at 11:17 PM Dave Fisher  wrote:
> You can ask for Lazy Consensus on this and give 72 hours for anyone to object.

Thanks!

As suggested, I'm asking for Lazy Consensus on the adoption of file 
http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openoffice/branding/AOO4/Apache_OpenOffice_Logo_unofficial_mseidel_fixed_TM.svg
as the official vector file for the Apache OpenOffice logo (see explanation 
below).
If after 72 hours there are no objections, the file will be renamed 
appropriately and used as the official vector file.
 
> I’m +1 for pure shapes and no text. Maybe comment inline each glyph.

I would prefer not to modify the file at this point. In any case this email and 
explanation are public.

Regards
Pedro

> > On Aug 30, 2018, at 2:41 PM, Pedro Lino  wrote:
> > 
> > Hi all
> > 
> > I don't know what is the appropriate procedure but would like to request a 
> > vote for the adoption of a corrected Apache OpenOffice logo vector file.
> > 
> > Most of you are aware that the current logo was created by Chris 
> > Rottensteiner .
> > 
> > Unfortunately all of the logos in vector format archived in the Apache 
> > OpenOffice (or at least all that I could find) left by ChrisR 
> > (http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openoffice/branding/AOO4/ ) have the same 
> > problem: the TM part is a text object.
> > 
> > This means that editing or viewing the SVG only looks as the author 
> > expected 
> > (http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openoffice/branding/AOO4/Apache_OpenOffice_Logo_ChrisR_selected_2013-06_with_4.pdf)
> >  it if the user's computer has font Source Sans Pro Light installed.
> > 
> > An easy way to see this is to click on the AOO logo at
> > 
> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Apache_OpenOffice_logo_and_wordmark_(2014).svg
> > 
> > After clicking on the expected logo as PNG you will open the actual SVG 
> > which will be showing a wrong TM
> > 
> > Because of this small defect, there is no perfect SVG that can be used as 
> > Apache OpenOffice's official logo, and that is the reason why the current 
> > official logo available to Apache is a PDF
> > 
> > https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/comdev/project-logos/originals/
> > 
> > Luckily user Matthias Seidel has fixed this by converting the TM part to 
> > paths (as ChrisR did for the rest of the text)
> > 
> > This does NOT change the artwork in any way. It just guarantees that the 
> > vector logo looks the same under any OS regardless of the fonts installed.
> > 
> > 
> > TL:DR
> > 
> > Therefore I would like to propose a vote to approve file 
> > http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openoffice/branding/AOO4/Apache_OpenOffice_Logo_unofficial_mseidel_fixed_TM.svg
> > 
> > as the Apache OpenOffice official vector logo file
> > 
> > 
> > Best regards,
> > 
> > Pedro
> 
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Re: App icons for Windows

[Pedro Lino]

Hi Matthias, all


> I would like to update the 6 icons for Writer, Calc, Impress, Draw, Base
> and Math.
> 
> Opinions?
> 


According to the OpenOffice.org page on Wikipedia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenOffice.org#OpenOffice.org_3

"On 13 October 2008, version 3.0 was released". That was almost 10 years ago...

So I would say that it makes sense to update the Windows builds to the 3.x 
icons (since there are no 4.x icons) so that the icons are the same on all 
platforms (Linux and Mac already use these icons possibly since version 3.0)


Just my 2 cents ;)

Pedro

Re: Wrong distro detected?

[Pedro Lino]

Hi Rory, all

> On September 2, 2018 at 12:25 PM Rory O'Farrell  wrote:

> >  On a similar Xubuntu 18.04.01 64 bit machine, using Firefox I am 
> >  offered OO Linux 64-bit (x86-64) (DEB)
> > 
> >  On that machine User Agent details are
> >  Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Ubuntu; Linux x86_64; rv:61.0) Gecko /20100101; 
> >  Firefox/61.0
 
> I used the Firefox from the Ubuntu distro, and assumed that was a "standard" 
> Firefox.

The Firefox version that is included in Ubuntu is the current branch of Firefox 
(61.0) slightly modified by Ubuntu (that is why it has the additional Ubuntu 
info). 
The version I'm using (and is included in Debian) is the ESR a more 
conservative branch that is available from Mozilla 
(https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/organizations/)
If you install the standard Firefox from Mozilla 
(https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/download/thanks/) I assume it will no 
longer report Ubuntu...

Curiously, the previous link offers me the right DEBS so we (AOO) we need to 
find out how Mozilla does it... Anyone with an RPM based distro to test this?

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Re: Wrong distro detected?

[Pedro Lino]

Actually that was not correct.
Mozilla provides the tar.bz2 when it detects Linux...
Ah, well...

> On September 2, 2018 at 12:41 PM Pedro Lino  wrote:

> Curiously, the previous link offers me the right DEBS so we (AOO) we need to 
> find out how Mozilla does it... Anyone with an RPM based distro to test this?

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Re: SVN trunk: Windows build crashes on startup

[Pedro Lino]

Hi Damjan


I'm running AOO420m1(Build:9800) - Rev. 1828644 from the Buildbot under Windows 
7 x64 without any problems.

Hope this helps...


Regards,

Pedro

> On April 11, 2018 at 12:29 PM Damjan Jovanovic wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi
> 
> First I thought it was a patch I was developing, but even with a clean
> rebuild, the Windows binaries reproducibly crash during startup.
> 
> It's not a debug build so I can't debug further.
> 
> Can anyone provide the SVN revision of a Windows build that works for 
> them,
> so I have a starting point for a regression test?
> 
> Damjan
> 

Re: Time to push on for 4.2.0

[Pedro Lino]

> Localization is, so to say, under my "ownership" (meaning: it's an area 
> where I've volunteered to lead the effort); but I can't commit to 
> getting it done by a certain deadline right now. Volunteers welcome, of 
> course; even beginners.

I have previously volunteered to get the Portuguese version ready for release.
I am volunteering again.
Is there any work to be done on Pootle?

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Pedro

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Re: Bad news regarding future Java use?

[Pedro Lino]

> It sounds quite confusing. I think it refers to the point that java 8 will 
> drop out of support 2020.
> 
> Damjan is already get our code Java 9 ready. So 4.2.0 will have Java 9 
> support. 

According to this page
http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/eol-135779.html

Java 9 is already dead for Public use (in fact earlier than Java 8!) and even 
Java 10 will be only last until September when Java 11 LTS is launched...

So actually keeping Java 8 seems like a good option :)

> Am 20. April 2018 17:55:24 MESZ schrieb Phillip Rhodes 
> <motley.crue@gmail.com>:
> >I read that as only referring to the Java 8 SE binaries specifically.
> >If I'm reading this right, users using a Java 9 or Java 10 SDK will
> >still be fine.  That just means we have an onus on us to make sure
> >things work with the latest versions of the SDK.
> >
> >
> >Phil
> >
> >This message optimized for indexing by NSA PRISM
> >
> >
> >On Fri, Apr 20, 2018 at 10:19 AM, Pedro Lino <pedro.l...@mailbox.org>
> >wrote:
> >> Hi all
> >>
> >> I just updated Java 8 and got a notification saying
> >>
> >> "You have successfully installed Java.
> >> Important Information about Oracle Java SE Roadmap:
> >> Changes are coming which will impact your access to future releases
> >of
> >> Java SE from Oracle. Corporate users will be impacted as soon as
> >> January 2019. For additional guidance please follow the link below
> >> More information on roadmap"
> >>
> >> https://www.java.com/en/download/release_notice.jsp
> >>
> >> If I understand the notice correctly this will not be a problem for
> >personal use at home but all OpenOffice features requiring Java can not
> >be used within a company unless the company buys a Java license...
> >>
> >> I hope I misunderstood the message :(
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >> Pedro
> >>
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Re: Bad news regarding future Java use?

[Pedro Lino]

> People reading something, jumping to conclusions, and freaking out. Move
> along, nothing to see here...
> 


I don't think so. Maybe there is a good reason why another office suite moved 
all the scripting to Python.


> Facts: there are OpenJDK builds for Windows, Linux, Mac and even Linux ARM
> https://adoptopenjdk.net/releases.html
> 


Fact: Windows users (the vast majority of AOO users) already have or are more 
familiar with Oracle Java

Fact: under the Windows OS the OpenJDK is 64bit only but AOO  is 32bit only

Bad news regarding future Java use?

[Pedro Lino]

Hi all

I just updated Java 8 and got a notification saying

"You have successfully installed Java.
Important Information about Oracle Java SE Roadmap:
Changes are coming which will impact your access to future releases of
Java SE from Oracle. Corporate users will be impacted as soon as
January 2019. For additional guidance please follow the link below
More information on roadmap"

https://www.java.com/en/download/release_notice.jsp

If I understand the notice correctly this will not be a problem for personal 
use at home but all OpenOffice features requiring Java can not be used within a 
company unless the company buys a Java license...

I hope I misunderstood the message :(

Regards,
Pedro

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Re: Test r1828081 build (Mac, OS2)

[Pedro Lino]

Hi Damjan, all


> In r1828081 I ported multiple libraries and external dependencies with
> unusual naming to gbuild. Windows definitely builds, but other systems,
> particularly Mac and OS2, might not. Please test.
> 


Build 1828108 Linux x86-64 installed on Ubuntu 14.04.5 LTS without any warnings 
but won't run.

I just get an entry on the taskbar (I'm running Gnome) with  "Starting 
OpenOffice" that disappears after a few seconds. It won't even get to the 
splash screen.

Hope this helps.

Pedro

Re: Does AOO 4.2.x need new system requirements?

[Pedro Lino]

> On March 25, 2018 at 12:32 PM Marcus  wrote:

> I tend to agree but the wording is important. With "official support" 
> this would look like as we have built and tested on this platform. As we 
> haven't done this we should avoid this misunderstanding.
> 
> Instead we can say in a different form that OpenOffice can run on 
> reactOS, like:
> 
> "possible alternative to Windows: ReactOS"
> "can be installed and run on ReactOS

Can it be installed on ReactOS? Has anyone verified this? I was never able to 
boot a Live ReactOS build of any version even on PCs that were running Windows 
XP. It will not boot either on any newer (Win7 or Win10) certified machines...

If somebody has had any different results with ReactOS and managed to install 
OpenOffice, I'm curious to know.

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Re: extension problem

[Pedro Lino]

> On March 16, 2018 at 8:12 PM Andrea Pescetti  wrote:
> 
> 
> Dave Brondsema wrote:
> > On 3/15/18 6:57 PM, Andrea Pescetti wrote:
> >> For example, https://t.co/sZTK7wwASJ and https://t.co/HV0HdhJLGR (listed 
> >> there)
> >> are still broken. And others from that list are broken too. But I guess 
> >> it's
> >> just a matter of moving them to the right place now.
> > 
> > The other extensions are fixed now too.
> 
> Thanks, it works for me now: I can download recent releases of other 
> extensions too.

But Comments on extensions are still broken and return

"Your comment is waiting for moderator approval.

Error message

Unable to send e-mail. Contact the site administrator if the problem persists."

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Re: extension problem

[Pedro Lino]

> On March 19, 2018 at 8:32 PM Dave Brondsema <d...@brondsema.net> wrote:
> 
> 
> On 3/16/18 4:37 PM, Pedro Lino wrote:
> > But Comments on extensions are still broken and return
> > 
> > "Your comment is waiting for moderator approval.
> > 
> > Error message
> > 
> > Unable to send e-mail. Contact the site administrator if the problem 
> > persists."
> > 
> 
> Ok, emailing has been fixed now too.

Thanks! Now I got "Your comment is waiting for moderator approval."
Hopefully some moderator will approve it :)

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Re: Status on 4.2.0?

[Pedro Lino]

> Technically seen:
> To unpack the installation files and to start the installation with MSI.
> 
> Historically seen:
> I don't know! ;-)
> 


The nsis installer extracts and runs the MSVC runtime libraries installer 
before running the AOO installer. Since AOO is compiled with MSVC it requires 
these libraries are installed first. I don't know how TDF got rid of that step  
but possibly they are including the MSVC libraries needed in the program folder?


Maybe AOO can do the same and skip the nsis installer?

Re: Reporting broken download link

[Pedro Lino]

Hi Leandro


Sourceforge is currently having some problems.

You can download directly from the Apache server

http://archive.apache.org/dist/openoffice/4.1.5/binaries/he/


Hope this helps,

Pedro

Re: [Call for testing] AOO 4.2.0 for Windows built with MozillaBuild 3.1.1

[Pedro Lino]

Hi Matthias


> Do you have Windows 32-bit available?
> 


Only Windows XP 32-bit


> Things to test:
> Can you search for updates (AOO or Extension manager) without getting en
> error?
> 

Both work perfectly (I downgraded one extension to check)

> Also the dialog under "Tools - Options... - Security - Macro Security"
> should work.
> 

Working as expected.

Best,

Pedro

Re: Help building AOO416 on Ubuntu 16.04

[Pedro Lino]

> JDK 8 is OK as long as you use --disable-odk in configure.
> Hopefully we can get a patch into 4.1.6 that will allow us to build ODK
> with Java 8
> 


Excellent! Thank you for confirming.

-disable-odk is included in the Step-by-step guide so that is what I will be 
using


Regards,

Pedro