RE: [lazy consensus] FreeBSD as a new supported platform?

2017-01-27 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
> -Original Message- > From: Matthias Seidel [mailto:matthias.sei...@hamburg.de] > Sent: Friday, January 27, 2017 11:46 > To: dev@openoffice.apache.org > Subject: Re: [lazy consensus] FreeBSD as a new supported platform? > > Am 27.01.2017 um 20:39 schrieb Marcus: > > Am 27.01.2017 um

RE: [lazy consensus] FreeBSD as a new supported platform?

2017-01-27 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
> -Original Message- > From: Marcus [mailto:marcus.m...@wtnet.de] > Sent: Friday, January 27, 2017 09:55 > To: dev@openoffice.apache.org > Subject: Re: [lazy consensus] FreeBSD as a new supported platform? > > Am 27.01.2017 um 18:50 schrieb Dennis E. Hamilton: >

RE: Community building: give our User a chance to contribute!

2017-01-27 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
> -Original Message- > From: Jörg Schmidt [mailto:joe...@j-m-schmidt.de] > Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2017 00:08 > To: dev@openoffice.apache.org > Subject: Re: Community building: give our User a chance to contribute! > > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Simon Phipps

RE: [lazy consensus] FreeBSD as a new supported platform?

2017-01-27 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
> -Original Message- > From: Rory O'Farrell [mailto:ofarr...@iol.ie] > Sent: Friday, January 27, 2017 07:59 > To: dev@openoffice.apache.org > Subject: Re: [lazy consensus] FreeBSD as a new supported platform? > > On Fri, 27 Jan 2017 07:49:51 -0800 > &

RE: [lazy consensus] FreeBSD as a new supported platform?

2017-01-27 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
In thinking about this, I suggest that supported means (1) dist.apache.org authenticated binary distributions (as mirrored) are provided from source releases and (2) bugzilla provides for the platform as a named OS [type]. I note that OS/2 and FreeBSD (and Solaris) qualify under (2) but not

RE: Community building: give our User a chance to contribute!

2017-01-22 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
urday, January 21, 2017 13:17 > To: dev@openoffice.apache.org; orc...@apache.org > Subject: Re: Community building: give our User a chance to contribute! > > > -----Original Message- > > From: Dennis E. Hamilton [mailto:orc...@apache.org] > > > Apache Project

RE: If the list of PMC members up to date?

2017-01-22 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
If you want to communicate to the full PMC, send a message to private@ oo.a.o. Do not cross-post. But communicating here on dev@ oo.a.o is also fine. For discussions about broader ASF matters, subscribe to d...@community.apache.org For more details of the PMC membership, see

RE: Community building: give our User a chance to contribute!

2017-01-21 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
> -Original Message- > From: Jörg Schmidt [mailto:joe...@j-m-schmidt.de] > Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2017 03:48 > To: dev@openoffice.apache.org > Subject: Re: Community building: give our User a chance to contribute! > > > > From: Dave Fisher [mailto:dave2w...@comcast.net] > > > Go

RE: Community building: give our User a chance to contribute!

2017-01-20 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
Dave Fisher has posted a valuable comment while I was writing this. I completely support his views on this topic. In addition, it seems to me that you propose a change in how the ASF itself works. This is not the place to do that. I suggest you take such discussion to the

RE: Community building: give our User a chance to contribute!

2017-01-19 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
to lay out a business model takes 8 -16 > month. So IMHO we have time, does not need to be perfect. > > All the best > Peter > > Dennis E. Hamilton <orc...@apache.org <mailto:orc...@apache.org> > > schrieb am Mi., 18. Jan. 2017, 17:36: > > > >

RE: Community building: give our User a chance to contribute!

2017-01-18 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
> -Original Message- > From: Raphael Bircher [mailto:rbircherapa...@gmail.com] > Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2017 21:36 > To: dev@openoffice.apache.org > Subject: Re: Community building: give our User a chance to contribute! > > Am .01.2017, 05:31 Uhr, schrieb De

RE: Community building: give our User a chance to contribute!

2017-01-17 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
> -Original Message- > From: Peter Kovacs [mailto:legi...@gmail.com] > Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2017 19:39 > To: dev@openoffice.apache.org > Subject: Re: Community building: give our User a chance to contribute! > > If a member can not collect for the hole project, I think the ASF

RE: Error on enum statement. Can sombody take a little time and explain the enum and the error?

2017-01-01 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
> -Original Message- > From: Peter Kovacs [mailto:legi...@gmail.com] > Sent: Sunday, January 1, 2017 17:07 > To: dev > Subject: Error on enum statement. Can sombody take a little time and > explain the enum and the error? > > Hello all, > > > I tried to

RE: SSDLC Compliance - OpenOffice

2016-12-20 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
Comments in-line. > -Original Message- > From: Peter Kovacs [mailto:legi...@gmail.com] > Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2016 01:41 > To: dev ; gan.kokleong.adr...@stee.stengg.com > Subject: Re: SSDLC Compliance - OpenOffice > > As usual I forgot to add people

RE: Actual process to make changes on the website

2016-11-27 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
Alternatively, Log onto with your Apache ID and password. Then click the "Publish ooo-site site" link. There is no need for the Perl script and this should work in any current browser. (I just confirmed it with IE 11.) - Dennis > -Original

RE: Request to join back the PMC

2016-11-27 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
[BCC PMC] This is a personnel matter and Raphael's request should be made to and discussed at priv...@openoffice.apache.org. There are means for reinstating former PMC members and that is to be taken up there. - Dennis > -Original Message- > From: Jörg Schmidt

RE: Bugzilla and Twitter

2016-11-11 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
> -Original Message- > From: Marcus [mailto:marcus.m...@wtnet.de] > Sent: Friday, November 11, 2016 12:40 > To: dev@openoffice.apache.org > Cc: Dennis E. Hamilton (Apache) <orc...@apache.org> > Subject: Re: Bugzilla and Twitter > > Am 11/10/2016

Recap of Board/Reports Actions on OpenOffice

2016-11-05 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
[BCC PMC] I just encountered this accidentally [;<): . This makes it unnecessary to invest any further maintenance at . I will add a note, there, linking to the

RE: Download Stats

2016-10-17 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
I'm not certain what the point of the aggregate count is, apart from it being a larger number. While pride is taken in it, it is not clear how meaningful it is. The current rate of downloads averages out to around 3 million per month. That was true for 4.1.1 and for 4.1.2. It is likely that

RE: Need urgent Confluence help

2016-10-11 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
I don't have the karma either. I just deleted the content, declared it to be an orphan page and clobbered the Title. (Titles are mandatory). > -Original Message- > From: Patricia Shanahan [mailto:p...@acm.org] > Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2016 09:46 > To: dev@openoffice.apache.org >

RE: {Dicuss] [Vote] Summary

2016-10-06 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
+1 Great analysis and working things out: pats, arielch, marcus. > -Original Message- > From: Patricia Shanahan [mailto:p...@acm.org] > Sent: Thursday, October 6, 2016 06:00 > To: dev@openoffice.apache.org > Subject: Re: {Dicuss] [Vote] Summary > > This thread has morphed a bit, and I

RE: In regards to Open Office

2016-10-02 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
I think the observation was that ODF was not designed with interoperability with Microsoft in mind. In fact, that case was officially excluded, although the work on OpenFormula in ODF 1.2 was designed to accommodate Excel and had participation of Microsoft experts. The folklore about all of

RE: Which source files in release?

2016-10-02 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
I lost the thread somewhere, and I want to comment on a remark about who signs packages in the release candidates. I think there is a "requirement", or probably just an assumption, that the source package be signed by the Release Manager, so if you want to check the package and then

RE: In regards to Open Office

2016-10-02 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
+1 Rory's point is all that matters. The user wants to know how things will work *now* in choosing between different products. Hypotheticals and speculations about format standards are not useful. (I've worked on both OOXML and ODF specifications and I know from direct knowledge how

RE: Windows XP confirmation of AOO 4.1.3 r1761381

2016-09-30 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
to be looking. - Dennis > -Original Message- > From: Dennis E. Hamilton [mailto:dennis.hamil...@acm.org] > Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2016 09:53 > To: dev@openoffice.apache.org > Subject: Windows XP confirmation of AOO 4.1.3 r1761381 > > I successfully install

RE: Windows 10 Anniversary confirmation of AOO 4.1.3 r1761381

2016-09-30 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
uninstalling AOO4.1.3-dev and then again installing the 2016-09-29 install, I saw the VC++ redistributables checks go by quickly, but apparently not with any time installing. The AOO part of the installation proceeded successfully. - Dennis > -Original Message- > From: Dennis E. Ha

Windows XP confirmation of AOO 4.1.3 r1761381

2016-09-29 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
I successfully installed the 2016-09-23 AOO 4.1.3-dev (r1761381) Win_x86_en-US on Windows XP Professional Version 2002 Service Pack 3 (running in a VirtualBox VM). No VC++ 2008 redistributable installation occurred. I have not checked anything else at this point. -- Dennis E. Hamilton

Windows 10 Anniversary confirmation of AOO 4.1.3 r1761381

2016-09-29 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
at this point. -- Dennis E. Hamilton orc...@apache.org dennis.hamil...@acm.org+1-206-779-9430 https://keybase.io/orcmid PGP F96E 89FF D456 628A X.509 certs used and requested for signed e-mail - To unsubscribe

RE: Testing 4.1.3

2016-09-27 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
has the developer builds that are being readied. Note that these are only for developers, QA, and consideration as RC1. They are not meant to be placed in general use as there is no 4.1.3 release at this time. - Dennis > -Original

RE: Editing the release notes wiki

2016-09-26 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
You usually make a request on doc@ or here on dev@, giving the user name you have on the CWiki, and one of the administrators will give you the karma. I know Keith was doing that for folks who wanted to work on documentation. According to the record we have for such things, Andrea and Dave

Downloading dev/openoffice/4.1.3 Windows Binaries

2016-09-26 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
filenames will not change. -- Dennis E. Hamilton orc...@apache.org dennis.hamil...@acm.org+1-206-779-9430 https://keybase.io/orcmid PGP F96E 89FF D456 628A X.509 certs used and requested for signed e-mail - To unsu

Question: Naming the dev/openoffice/4.1.3 folders

2016-09-26 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
I've been puzzling about the folder names. Let me test my understanding. If all of the dev/openoffice/4.1.3/ files being uploaded become RC1, will it be by renaming the folder (e.g., from 4.1.3 to 4.1.3-rc1) without changing anything in the folders? (The files have the name they will have if

RE: Request for Nofollow or Removal of Links to My Site at Openoffice

2016-09-24 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
[BCC us...@openoffice.apache.org] > -Original Message- > From: James Knott [mailto:james.kn...@rogers.com] > Sent: Saturday, September 24, 2016 05:35 > To: us...@openoffice.apache.org; supp...@formbirds.com > Subject: Re: Request for Nofollow or Removal of Links to My Site at > Openoffice

RE: Tools for building and checking a release candidate

2016-09-20 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
> -Original Message- > From: Andrea Pescetti [mailto:pesce...@apache.org] > Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2016 15:59 > To: dev@openoffice.apache.org > Subject: Re: Tools for building and checking a release candidate > > Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: > >>

RE: Tools for building and checking a release candidate

2016-09-20 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
> -Original Message- > From: Dennis E. Hamilton [mailto:dennis.hamil...@acm.org] > Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2016 15:18 > To: dev@openoffice.apache.org > Subject: RE: Tools for building and checking a release candidate > > > > > -Original Message-

RE: Tools for building and checking a release candidate

2016-09-20 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
> -Original Message- > From: Andrea Pescetti [mailto:pesce...@apache.org] > Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2016 14:37 > To: dev@openoffice.apache.org > Subject: Re: Tools for building and checking a release candidate > > On 18/09/2016 Marcus wrote: > > Am 09/17/2016 01:00 PM, schrieb

FW: Resolution to Change the Apache OpenOffice Chair

2016-09-19 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
Dennis > -Original Message- > From: Dennis E. Hamilton [mailto:orc...@apache.org] > Sent: Monday, September 19, 2016 09:47 > To: bo...@apache.org > Subject: Resolution to Change the Apache OpenOffice Chair > > Already added to the Special Orders: > > C. Change th

[RESULT][VOTE] Recommend Marcus Lange (marcus) as the New Vice President for Apache OpenOffice

2016-09-19 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
[BCC to PMC] The [VOTE] to recommend Marcus Lange (marcus) as the New Vice President for Apache OpenOffice has passed. Tally +1 Jan Høydahl +1 Dennis E. Hamilton +1 Gavin McDonald +1 Herbert Duerr +1 Patricia Shanahan +1 Louis Suárez-Potts +1 Mechtilde Stehmann +1

RE: [VOTE] Recommend Marcus Lange (marcus) as the New Vice President for Apache OpenOffice

2016-09-18 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
+1 > -Original Message- > From: Dennis E. Hamilton [mailto:orc...@apache.org] > Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2016 08:36 > To: dev@openoffice.apache.org > Subject: [VOTE] Recommend Marcus Lange (marcus) as the New Vice > President for Apache OpenOffic

RE: Become the IMAP client for documents [Re: Differentiate or Die]

2016-09-17 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
> -Original Message- > From: Xen [mailto:l...@xenhideout.nl] > Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2016 12:57 > To: dev@openoffice.apache.org > Subject: Re: Become the IMAP client for documents [Re: Differentiate or > Die] > > toki schreef op 17-09-2016 17:52: > > On 17/09/2016 10:46, Peter

RE: Access denied on bugzilla ...

2016-09-16 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
; it's not wrong that the issue was send to the security team. > > We should think about not rooting these kind of issues to the security > team. > > [1] https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_activity.cgi?id=127117 > > Marcus > > > > Am 09/16/2016 06:43 PM, schrieb

RE: Access denied on bugzilla ...

2016-09-16 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
Pedro, When you assign an issue to secur...@openoffice.apache.org, it becomes invisible to all but the security team. Since this is not about a vulnerability, I will change the issue to the default assignment. Please do not assign issues to others. If you want to assign it to yourself,

RE: Become the IMAP client for documents [Re: Differentiate or Die]

2016-09-16 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
Minor touch-up about OneDrive and Microsoft Office Web Apps. > -Original Message- > From: Xen [mailto:l...@xenhideout.nl] > Sent: Friday, September 16, 2016 04:40 > To: dev@openoffice.apache.org > Subject: Become the IMAP client for documents [Re: Differentiate or Die] > [ ... ] > -

[VOTE] Recommend Marcus Lange (marcus) as the New Vice President for Apache OpenOffice

2016-09-15 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
[BCC to PMC] RESOLUTION: That Marcus Lange (marcus) be recommended to the Apache Software Foundation Board to serve as Vice President for Apache OpenOffice. The Vice President for Apache OpenOffice serves in accordance with and subject to the direction of the Board of Directors

[CONCLUSION] [NOMINATION REQUEST] Next Chair of AOO Project Management Committee

2016-09-15 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
dates please speak up now. Then we can start > a discussion. > > Thanks for your attention. > > [1] http://www.apache.org/dev/pmc.html#chair > [2] http://www.apache.org/foundation/how-it-works.html#roles > > Marcus > > > > Am 08/30/2016 10:30 PM, schrieb De

RE: [discussion] Where to talk about Issues?

2016-09-13 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
help in confirmation, solicit more information as necessary, and then see if one can get farther than confirmation. - Dennis > > All the best > Peter > > Dennis E. Hamilton <dennis.hamil...@acm.org> schrieb am Mo., 12. Sep. > 2016, > 23:56: > > > If you are offe

RE: Buildbot Notifications

2016-09-12 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
+1 Thanks Gav > -Original Message- > From: Gavin McDonald [mailto:ga...@16degrees.com.au] > Sent: Monday, September 12, 2016 19:34 > To: dev@openoffice.apache.org > Subject: Buildbot Notifications > > Hi All, > > The commits list shows 142 commits so far this month - 98 of which are >

RE: [discussion] Where to talk about Issues?

2016-09-12 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
If you are offering to take action on a specific Issue, do so on the Issue. If you want discussion of a proposal to act, or you want a patch or solution reviewed, do that here on dev@, pointing to the Issue. If you are requesting that someone else do something, here at dev@ is as good a place

RE: Bug#837178: linux-image-3.16.0-4-amd64: All memory and swap is used up until system freezes

2016-09-11 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
s unfortunate and regrettable. It was also inappropriate that the dev@ openoffice.apache.org list was also so abused. I trust we can remove the cross-posting now and Debian developers can return to their important business without t

RE: Bug#837178: linux-image-3.16.0-4-amd64: All memory and swap is used up until system freezes

2016-09-10 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
I don't understand the point of posting this message to dev@oo.a.o, especially with all the details of an apparent Linux problem in conjunction with LibreOffice (but not necessarily caused by LibreOffice). I assume the recommendation of Apache OpenOffice is not as a substitute but to see if

RE: [DISCUSS] What Would OpenOffice Retirement Involve? (long)

2016-09-08 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
WARNING. The ApacheOpenOffice. Org site described in this exchange is a malicious site. DO NOT INVESTIGATE. - Dennis > -Original Message- > From: Mark Thomas [mailto:ma...@apache.org] > Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2016 02:08 > To: dev@openoffice.apache.org > Subject: Re: [DISCUSS]

RE: [PROPOSAL] Consolidating all the build guides

2016-09-07 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
+1 > -Original Message- > From: Marcus [mailto:marcus.m...@wtnet.de] > Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2016 14:49 > To: dev@ > Subject: [PROPOSAL] Consolidating all the build guides > > As I have now some experience on building OpenOffice, I've also seen > that

RE: [DISCUSS] What Would OpenOffice Retirement Involve? (long)

2016-09-07 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
[orcmid] I agree, Dave. Will get around to it. - Dennis > > Regards, > Dave > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Sep 7, 2016, at 7:55 AM, Dennis E. Hamilton > <dennis.hamil...@acm.org> wrote: > > [ ... ] --

RE: [DISCUSS] What Would OpenOffice Retirement Involve? (long)

2016-09-07 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
software alternatives would arise on users@oo.a.o and particularly on the Community Forums. That would happen naturally without requiring the project to take any positions or provide any kind of exclusivity of one provider over others. - Dennis > -Original Message- > From: De

RE: [DISCUSS] What Would OpenOffice Retirement Involve? (long)

2016-09-06 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
+1 > -Original Message- > From: Patricia Shanahan [mailto:p...@acm.org] > Sent: Tuesday, September 6, 2016 08:23 > To: dev@openoffice.apache.org > Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] What Would OpenOffice Retirement Involve? (long) > > +1 > > I'm here for the present and the future, not the past. >

RE: [DISCUSS] What Would OpenOffice Retirement Involve? (long)

2016-09-06 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
point as missing from the list/plan posted by Dennis > E. Hamilton: an easy upgrade path for current OpenOffice users, to make > sure that people aren't inconvenienced and that the efforts OpenOffice > contributors' made for the growth FLOSS aren't wasted. > > Perhaps some of the insta

FW: [DISCUSS] What Would OpenOffice Retirement Involve? (long)

2016-09-06 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
the team really should consider to give some official statements on > the retirement idea, plus show that it is worth joining. Mid and long > term goals are now super important. So more volunteers have reason to > join. > Currently you have managed to get a lot media attention.  use it.

RE: [DISCUSS] What Would OpenOffice Retirement Involve? (long)

2016-09-06 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
blic interest as required in its Charter. Being suppressed by worries of outside scrutiny and adversarial articles and responses is not something that should dissuade us. Problems have to be faced bravely and openly. - Dennis > -Original Message- > From: Dennis E. Hamilton [mailto:d

RE: Kay's activities

2016-09-04 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
Good, thanks for getting this. The web site effort was extensive. Kay was also the one who, along with Marcus, identify issues as blockers or to have their fixes ear-marked for 4.2.0. She did the same for 4.1.2. So she has done more than watch the bugzilla. - Dennis > -Original

ooo-site "Participation/Help-Wanted" structure (was RE: What would OpenOffice NON-retirement involve?)

2016-09-04 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
> -Original Message- > From: Marcus [mailto:marcus.m...@wtnet.de] > Sent: Sunday, September 4, 2016 10:34 > To: dev@openoffice.apache.org > Subject: Re: What would OpenOffice NON-retirement involve? > > Am 09/04/2016 06:43 PM, schrieb Dennis E. Hamilton: [ ... ] [o

RE: What would OpenOffice NON-retirement involve?

2016-09-04 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
> -Original Message- > From: Marcus [mailto:marcus.m...@wtnet.de] > Sent: Sunday, September 4, 2016 02:09 > To: dev@openoffice.apache.org > Subject: Re: What would OpenOffice NON-retirement involve? > > Am 09/04/2016 01:40 AM, schrieb Dennis E. Hamilton: >

RE: What would OpenOffice NON-retirement involve?

2016-09-03 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
> -Original Message- > From: Dennis E. Hamilton [mailto:dennis.hamil...@acm.org] > Sent: Friday, September 2, 2016 10:18 > To: dev@openoffice.apache.org > Subject: RE: What would OpenOffice NON-retirement involve? > > > > > -Original Message---

RE: Presence at ApacheCon Europe, November

2016-09-03 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
I am in the same position as Patricia and will not be traveling to European conferences. > -Original Message- > From: Patricia Shanahan [mailto:p...@acm.org] > Sent: Saturday, September 3, 2016 04:21 > To: dev@openoffice.apache.org > Subject: Re: Presence at ApacheCon Europe, November >

RE: What would OpenOffice NON-retirement involve?

2016-09-02 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
> -Original Message- > From: Patricia Shanahan [mailto:p...@acm.org] > Sent: Friday, September 2, 2016 09:26 > To: dev@openoffice.apache.org > Subject: Re: What would OpenOffice NON-retirement involve? > > On 9/2/2016 7:59 AM, Phillip Rhodes wrote: > > OK, counter-point to the other

RE: [DISCUSS] What Would OpenOffice Retirement Involve? (long)

2016-09-02 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
> -Original Message- > From: Dennis E. Hamilton [mailto:dennis.hamil...@acm.org] > Sent: Thursday, September 1, 2016 22:08 > To: dev@openoffice.apache.org > Subject: RE: [DISCUSS] What Would OpenOffice Retirement Involve? (long) > > > > > -Original

RE: What would OpenOffice NON-retirement involve?

2016-09-02 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
We all have these questions, Phil. What we are awaiting is someone to provide an actionable answer. There is nothing to do about the FUD (as is already remarked elsewhere on the What would ... thread). That's a waste of energy. What we need is energy put into having an AOO that serves its

RE: Release Manager for 4.2.0?

2016-09-02 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
I don't have a good place to put this, and 4.2.0 may not be the way to consider it, if we are also counting on an early (this year) 4.2.0 to also provide important maintenance fixes and any security catch-ups too. One major change that the TDF made to LibreOffice is very important. Instead of

RE: [DISCUSS] What Would OpenOffice Retirement Involve? (long)

2016-09-02 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
Also, . The article itself is very straightforward. The comments wander around all over the place with the usual pontifications about corporate influence, etc. An important point is made, by the way, over how it is that LibreOffice deployment is far easier

RE: [DISCUSS] What Would OpenOffice Retirement Involve? (long)

2016-09-01 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
> -Original Message- > From: Phillip Rhodes [mailto:motley.crue@gmail.com] > Sent: Thursday, September 1, 2016 21:49 > To: dev@openoffice.apache.org; Dennis Hamilton > Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] What Would OpenOffice Retirement Involve? (long) > > > > > > >

RE: [DISCUSS] What Would OpenOffice Retirement Involve? (long)

2016-09-01 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
> -Original Message- > From: Phillip Rhodes [mailto:motley.crue@gmail.com] > Sent: Thursday, September 1, 2016 21:23 > To: dev@openoffice.apache.org > Cc: priv...@openoffice.apache.org > Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] What Would OpenOffice Retirement Involve? (long) > > > (3) I think that

RE: [DISCUSS] What Would OpenOffice Retirement Involve? (long)

2016-09-01 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
eyes and thoughts of our community, as reflected here on dev@. What alternative do you see? > > > Phil > > > This message optimized for indexing by NSA PRISM > > On Thu, Sep 1, 2016 at 7:37 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton <orc...@apache.org> > wrote: > > > He

RE: [DISCUSS] What Would OpenOffice Retirement Involve? (long)

2016-09-01 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
would be great to have that outcome. > > Regards, > Dave > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Sep 1, 2016, at 4:37 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton <orc...@apache.org> > wrote: > > > > Here is what a careful retirement of Apache OpenOffice could look > like. > >

RE: Independent Entity to Develop and Further AOO

2016-09-01 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
on Phipps: > > On Wed, Aug 31, 2016 at 11:44 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton < > > dennis.hamil...@acm.org> wrote: > > > >> > >> > >>> -Original Message- > >>> From: toki [mailto:toki.kant...@gmail.com] > >>> Sent: Wednesd

RE: Independent Entity to Develop and Further AOO

2016-08-31 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
> -Original Message- > From: toki [mailto:toki.kant...@gmail.com] > Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2016 11:30 > To: dev@openoffice.apache.org > Subject: Re: Independent Entity to Develop and Further AOO > > On 31/08/2016 16:26, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: > &

RE: Independent Entity to Develop and Further AOO

2016-08-31 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
l is sound, that leaves us with the question about sustainability of the Apache OpenOffice project itself, and what the consequences of unsustainability are. - Dennis > -Original Message- > From: Dennis E. Hamilton [mailto:dennis.hamil...@acm.org] > Sent: Monday, July 11, 2

RE: Merge with LibreOffice?

2016-08-31 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
> -Original Message- > From: Απόστολος Συρόπουλος [mailto:asyropoulos...@hotmail.com] > Sent: Saturday, August 6, 2016 12:36 > To: dev@openoffice.apache.org > Subject: ΑΠ: Merge with LibreOffice? > > > >> Greetings, dear AOO community. > >> > >> Please note first that this message is

RE: [E-devel] Apache OpenOffice 4.1.2 locks in Enlightenment 0.21.99.21605

2016-08-31 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
[BCC to AOO dev list] Please remove dev@openoffice.apache.org from these messages. The discussion seems to have little to do with Apache OpenOffice and there appears to be nothing that the project can contribute with respect to this issue. If that is not the case, please open a bugzilla

RE: [REPORT] CVE-2016-1513 Security Advisory

2016-08-30 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
hrough it or not. With regard to your document corruption experience, that is not the behavior associated with the CVE-2016-1513 vulnerability. They were probably damaged in the Save process. That is not unknown. - Dennis > > > On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 9:46 AM, Dennis E. Hamilton &

RE: Updated Security Advisory: CVE-2016-1513 Memory Corruption Vulnerability (Impress Presentations)

2016-08-30 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
Thanks for the feedback, Don. Please provide more details (and copy the public dev@ user list) so we can narrow in on the problem. Which version of Windows 10 are you running? Windows 10 Home or Windows 10 Pro? Are you following the steps in the README file for the Windows 4.1.2-patch1

[NOMINATION REQUEST] Next Chair of AOO Project Management Committee

2016-08-30 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
or offer themselves, indicate their availability to serve for at least one single-year term, and also have their own questions answered. - Dennis > -Original Message- > From: Dennis E. Hamilton [mailto:orc...@apache.org] > Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2016 20:44 > To: dev@openoffic

RE: [PROBLEM] General Availability of ApacheOpenOffice 4.1.2-patch1 Hotfixes

2016-08-30 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
> -Original Message- > From: Marcus [mailto:marcus.m...@wtnet.de] > Sent: Monday, August 29, 2016 13:27 > To: dev@openoffice.apache.org > Subject: Re: [PROBLEM] General Availability of ApacheOpenOffice 4.1.2- > patch1 Hotfixes > > Am 08/29/2016 04:39 PM, sc

RE: [REPORT] CVE-2016-1513 Security Advisory

2016-08-30 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
1.2-patch1/hotfix.html>. Please review the README instructions before deciding to download and apply the Hotfix. - Dennis > -Original Message- > From: Dennis E. Hamilton [mailto:orc...@apache.org] > Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2016 09:43 > To: dev@openoffice.apache.org >

[PROBLEM] General Availability of ApacheOpenOffice 4.1.2-patch1 Hotfixes

2016-08-29 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
once they are present. Then I will complete this long and winding road with the updated advisory. - Dennis > -Original Message- > From: Dennis E. Hamilton [mailto:orc...@apache.org] > Sent: Friday, August 26, 2016 10:28 > To: dev@openoffice.apache.org > Cc: l...@openoffic

RE: Java 32 Redux

2016-08-28 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
There's also a proposal to rework the error messages. I started over a year ago, and was flummoxes on not wanting there to be multiple warnings in the same message (having to do with how exception messages are combined). It would be worth getting back to for 4.2. - Dennis > -Original

RE: [PROPOSAL] General Availability of ApacheOpenOffice 4.1.2-patch1 Hotfixes

2016-08-26 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
. - Dennis > -Original Message- > From: Dennis E. Hamilton [mailto:orc...@apache.org] > Sent: Friday, August 19, 2016 15:02 > To: dev@openoffice.apache.org > Subject: [PROPOSAL] General Availability of ApacheOpenOffice 4.1.2- > patch1 Hotfixes > > [BCC PMC, F

RE: svn commit: r14987 - /dev/openoffice/4.1.2-patch1/hotfix.html

2016-08-25 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
Oh, OK. Seems wordy for me. But +0. I very much don't like the wide gray bar when a simple double-line is good enough. When I update the language entries for Linux, I will remove the gray bar. It is awful. - Dennis > -Original Message- > From: mar...@apache.org

RE: [PROPOSAL] General Availability of ApacheOpenOffice 4.1.2-patch1 Hotfixes

2016-08-25 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
PM, schrieb Jörg Schmidt: > >> From: Dennis E. Hamilton [mailto:dennis.hamil...@acm.org] > > > >> Yes, now I understand. > >> > >> Is it better now? > > > > _imho_ yes. > > I've merged both tables into a single one. Now we have really o

RE: [PROPOSAL] General Availability of ApacheOpenOffice 4.1.2-patch1 Hotfixes

2016-08-25 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
> -Original Message- > From: Jörg Schmidt [mailto:joe...@j-m-schmidt.de] > Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2016 01:47 > To: dev@openoffice.apache.org; dennis.hamil...@acm.org > Cc: q...@openoffice.apache.org; l...@openoffice.apache.org > Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL] General Availability of

RE: [DISCUSS] Release 4.2: General Topics

2016-08-24 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
The problem of incomplete shutdown is very serious. It can result in damaged and completely lost in-progress work, even though apparently saved, and other damage. The whole problem of shutdown, Quickstarter, and failed auto-recovery is a big ball of snakes that is worthy of a maintenance

RE: FW: Internationalization of 4.1.2-patch1 (was RE: a question about "APPLY-4.1.2-patch1.bat")

2016-08-22 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
[Please cross-post all replies] Two localizations for the 4.1.2-patch1 hotfix are near completion. They are for German (de) and Nederlands (nl) (often "Dutch" in English). It would be very useful to have localizations in French, Italian, and Spanish, preferably by native speakers.

RE: Support contact for Extensions

2016-08-22 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
OK, +1 > -Original Message- > From: Andrea Pescetti [mailto:pesce...@apache.org] > Sent: Monday, August 22, 2016 04:28 > To: dev@openoffice.apache.org > Subject: Re: Support contact for Extensions > > On 21/08/2016 Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: > >> From: An

Internationalization of 4.1.2-patch1 (was RE: a question about "APPLY-4.1.2-patch1.bat")

2016-08-20 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
All of the information on the release of 4.1.2-patch1, including readmes and messages from the patch install and uninstall scripts, is in English. See and the Readme files. Also, the Windows package contains install

RE: a question about "APPLY-4.1.2-patch1.bat"

2016-08-20 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
> -Original Message- > From: Dennis E. Hamilton [mailto:dennis.hamil...@acm.org] > Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2016 09:09 > To: dev@openoffice.apache.org > Subject: RE: a question about "APPLY-4.1.2-patch1.bat" > > Apache OpenOffice 4.1.2 *does* *n

RE: a question about "APPLY-4.1.2-patch1.bat"

2016-08-20 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
Apache OpenOffice 4.1.2 *does* *not* install hwp.dll. It should not be there. That is one of the ways that we can determine that the patch is likely being applied to 4.1.2 and not an incorrect version. hwp.dll was removed as part of the resolution of CVE-2015-1774,

[PROPOSAL] General Availability of ApacheOpenOffice 4.1.2-patch1 Hotfixes

2016-08-19 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
[BCC PMC, FYI QA] At this time, the preparation and dev@/qa@ confirmation of the AOO 4.1.2-patch1 Hotfixes has quieted. I propose that the current binaries be placed into general availability. I am initiating lazy consensus to end not before Tuesday, 2016-08-23T22:00Z. MATERIALS TO BE

RE: svn commit: r1756954 [1/2] - in /openoffice/trunk/main: ./ openssl/

2016-08-19 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
Great commit messages! > -Original Message- > From: truck...@apache.org [mailto:truck...@apache.org] > Sent: Friday, August 19, 2016 11:28 > To: comm...@openoffice.apache.org > Subject: svn commit: r1756954 [1/2] - in /openoffice/trunk/main: ./ > openssl/ > > Author: truckman > Date: Fri

RE: Ready to setup release build machines?

2016-08-19 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
> -Original Message- > From: Kay Schenk [mailto:kay.sch...@gmail.com] > Sent: Friday, August 19, 2016 09:09 > To: dev@openoffice.apache.org > Subject: Re: Ready to setup release build machines? > > > > On 08/12/2016 12:22 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: &

RE: [PATCH DOWNLOAD] Draft for the hotfix webpage

2016-08-18 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
> -Original Message- > From: Marcus [mailto:marcus.m...@wtnet.de] > Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2016 14:40 > To: dev@openoffice.apache.org > Subject: Re: [PATCH DOWNLOAD] Draft for the hotfix webpage > > Am 08/15/2016 11:40 PM, schrieb Dennis E. Hamilton: > >

RE: [TESTING] Applying openoffice-4.1.2-patch1 for Windows

2016-08-18 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
> -Original Message- > From: Keith N. McKenna [mailto:keith.mcke...@comcast.net] > Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2016 14:46 > To: q...@openoffice.apache.org; dev@openoffice.apache.org > Subject: Re: [TESTING] Applying openoffice-4.1.2-patch1 for Windows > [ ... ] > [knmc] > As we move

RE: [TESTING] Applying openoffice-4.1.2-patch1 for Windows

2016-08-15 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
> -Original Message- > From: Keith N. McKenna [mailto:keith.mcke...@comcast.net] > Sent: Monday, August 15, 2016 21:05 > To: q...@openoffice.apache.org; dev@openoffice.apache.org > Subject: Re: [TESTING] Applying openoffice-4.1.2-patch1 for Windows > > > &g

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