Re: Windows 10 S

2017-05-11 Thread Issac Goldstand
On 5/11/2017 11:01 AM, Rory O'Farrell wrote:
> I cam across this thread on an Ubuntu forum
> https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2360989
>
> The gist of it is that Win 10 S (out of the box) will not run 32 bit 
> applications.
>
> I have not delved into the depths of Windows 10 and Microsoft policy, being a 
> contented linux user, but if the reports in that thread are true ought we not 
> seriously consider a 64 bit OpenOffice?
(trying a second time, as I don't think my first attempt made it to the
list)

I don't think that it's about 32-bit vs 64-bit, it's about not running
native old-style win32 apps, and only allowing new UWP apps.  The apps
can still be 32 or 64 bits, but must be UWP and live in the Windows Store


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Re: Windows 10 S

2017-05-11 Thread Issac Goldstand
On 5/11/2017 11:01 AM, Rory O'Farrell wrote:
> I cam across this thread on an Ubuntu forum
> https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2360989
>
> The gist of it is that Win 10 S (out of the box) will not run 32 bit 
> applications.
>
> I have not delved into the depths of Windows 10 and Microsoft policy, being a 
> contented linux user, but if the reports in that thread are true ought we not 
> seriously consider a 64 bit OpenOffice?
>
I don't think that it's about 32-bit vs 64-bit, it's about not running
native old-style win32 apps, and only allowing new UWP apps.  The apps
can still be 32 or 64 bits, but must be UWP and live in the Windows Store


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Re: [www] [SUGGEST] Change Native Language to Dropdown/select box

2014-05-14 Thread Issac Goldstand

On 13/05/2014 12:44, Tal Daniel wrote:
 I'd like to suggest to replace the Native Language link, on
 www.openoffice.org menu to a more visible dropbox.

 E.g. Product | Download | ... | Lanauge: [English ]

 I believe users are more accustomed to select their language from a select
 box, rather than clicking native language (I remember I had a hard time,
 as a beginner OpenOffice site visitor to understand what does this link
 mean).

 This would also allow faster move to a translated version of the site, for
 people who prefer to read it in their language.

 + Another suggestion is to move the suggested dropdown box above the menu
 bar, somewhere near the search box.

 Tal

+1 for both ideas

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Re: please I would like to contact a real person for Open Office Writer project

2014-01-27 Thread Issac Goldstand
Forwarded from the community list...

On 27/01/2014 00:26, Arnaldo Carbone arnycarb...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi there; it is so difficult to contact you! everytime I tryed to do it, I
 had an automatic failure message back! please contact me!
 Arnaldo
 


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Re: Precompiled headers

2014-01-21 Thread Issac Goldstand
On 21/01/2014 10:09, Andre Fischer wrote:
 On 21.01.2014 08:57, Andre Fischer wrote:
 Yesterday I was asked whether the use of precompiled headers had any
 benefit on the compilation speed.  I thought the answer would be yes
 but I was not sure.  So I did some tests.  And the difference is
 huge. I compiled sw/ with

 make -sr -j8

 on a i7 s2720 (2.2GHz), 8GB Ram laptop.

 One important addition: precompiled headers are only supported on
 Windows (my experiment took place on Windows7).  I guess the other
 systems are fast enough without precompiled headers.

Also, I'm not an expert, but I think that there's a difference for
release artifacts whether or not you compile with PCH.  I know that the
chromium project, for example, recommends PCH for debug builds, but for
final releases, removing PCH is a big part of the optimizations...

  Issac


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Re: Precompiled headers

2014-01-21 Thread Issac Goldstand
On 21/01/2014 13:56, Andre Fischer wrote:
 On 21.01.2014 09:25, Issac Goldstand wrote:
 On 21/01/2014 10:09, Andre Fischer wrote:
 On 21.01.2014 08:57, Andre Fischer wrote:
 Yesterday I was asked whether the use of precompiled headers had any
 benefit on the compilation speed.  I thought the answer would be yes
 but I was not sure.  So I did some tests.  And the difference is
 huge. I compiled sw/ with

  make -sr -j8

 on a i7 s2720 (2.2GHz), 8GB Ram laptop.
 One important addition: precompiled headers are only supported on
 Windows (my experiment took place on Windows7).  I guess the other
 systems are fast enough without precompiled headers.

 Also, I'm not an expert, but I think that there's a difference for
 release artifacts whether or not you compile with PCH.  I know that the
 chromium project, for example, recommends PCH for debug builds, but for
 final releases, removing PCH is a big part of the optimizations...

 Good to know.  Do you have any pointers?
 -Andre

I don't :(.  I only remember having heard about the performance hit
once, but lack of Googled information on the subjects suggests that I
may be wrong/outdated.

About the chromium project, see this link
https://code.google.com/p/chromium/wiki/WindowsPrecompiledHeaders which
mentions the bit of gospel I mentioned above (by default for
non-official builds) without really explaining why the release build
doesn't use it by default.

Sorry I can't be more helpful,
  Issac

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Re: Fwd: Fwd: Re: Content Committee, ApacheCon 2014

2013-12-17 Thread Issac Goldstand

On 17/12/2013 00:34, Andrea Pescetti wrote:
 jan i wrote:

 Being in europe, I dont have the option to participate, but I like the
 challenge of filling a whole day with AOO, mixing developer and end user
 themes.

Don't let being in Europe hold you back...  If it's just ticket prices,
that's why the ASF has the TAC http://www.apache.org/travel/

If you feel you can help the community by being there, then TAC will
help you be there!  There's already a blurb on the TAC page about ACNA
2014, although the summary is that it's not quite time to apply yet.

  Issac

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Re: [RELEASE]: availability of uploads and synchronize SF mirrors

2013-07-21 Thread Issac Goldstand
I can confirm that I see it there
On Jul 21, 2013 1:30 PM, Juergen Schmidt jogischm...@gmail.com wrote:

 Am Sonntag, 21. Juli 2013 um 03:40 schrieb Dave Fisher:
 
  On Jul 20, 2013, at 5:10 PM, Marcus (OOo) wrote:
 
   Am 07/20/2013 12:45 PM, schrieb Marcus (OOo):
Here a little update what I can see:
   
1.
   
 https://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/files/4.0.0/binaries/
   
The builds seem to be completely received on SourceForge. So, for me
it's done.
   
2.
http://www.apache.org/dist/
   
No openoffice directory and therefore no binary and source builds.
Maybe Juergen and Infra are still working on this. I'll look again
 today
evening/tomorrow morning (European timezone).
   
  
  
   This is unchanged.
 
  There is a thread on the infrastructure ML that includes Juergen about
 this. Apparently it is there, but not there. This may have something to do
 with apache mirroring between US and Europe. I would suggest that you go on
 IRC #asfinfra and ask about this situation and not assume one way or
 another.
 INFRA-6568 is closed now, it should be there now. Please check ...
 Sorry I don't have more time 

 Juergen
 
  Thanks,
  Dave
 
 
  
   At the end it seems that we won't have source files available when we
 annouce the release. Is this any kind of stopper? The source is available
 as usual via SVN access. So, I don't know.
  
   If not then I would unstage the dirs/files on SourceForge and
 therefore make the AOO 4.0 release visible for the world. And update the
 download webpages.
  
   As the announcement is planned for Monday I will do this on Sunday
 evening (European time).
  
   Any objections?
  
   Marcus
  
  
  
Am 07/19/2013 05:16 PM, schrieb Jürgen Schmidt:
 The vote closed successful and I have once again uploaded the
 files in
 the dist are on the people server.

 /www/www.apache.org/dist/openoffice/4.0.0

 The relevant files for SF are under
 /www/www.apache.org/dist/extgernaldist/openoffice/4.0.0


 I hope the rsync url works now, if not please contact the infra
 people
 directly.

 rsync Url: rsync.apache.org::apache-dist-external


 A complete file list can you find here

 http://people.apache.org/~jsc/aoo4.0_files_dist-openoffice-4.0.0.txt

 http://people.apache.org/~jsc/aoo4.0_files_dist-externaldist-openoffice-4.0.0.txt


 As I mentioned earlier I will be not available until next week
 Thursday.
 But I hope I can follow the release a little bit to have some fun
 with
 you all together ;-)

 Juergen
  
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Re: Proposal: Improve security by limiting committer access in SVN

2013-04-03 Thread Issac Goldstand
On 03/04/2013 16:13, Rob Weir wrote:
 On Wed, Apr 3, 2013 at 9:06 AM, janI j...@apache.org wrote:

 On 3 April 2013 14:39, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote:

 We're starting to take a deeper look at what is required to integrate
 code
 signing into the OpenOffice build and release process. As you probably
 know
 operating systems, especially Windows and MacOS, are now checking for
 digital signatures and by default prevent users from installing programs
 that are not signed.  We see similar checks being integrated into
 anti-virus scanners and even web browsers now.

 One of the things that has come out in discussions is how large a target
 OpenOffice is, to hackers.  We're on track to have 50 million downloads
 in
 our first year.  If someone is able to get a virus or a trojan into our
 code, they have the ability to cause a huge amount of damage.  And if we
 are also signing our code, then this damage can propagate even faster,
 since the OS's let down their guard somewhat when dealing with signed
 code.  (Signed code == trust).

 Of course, none of this has ever happened with OpenOffice, but with the
 stature and reach we have, it is reasonable to believe that we could be a
 target of opportunity for someone wishing to cause trouble.  We should
 always keep this in mind and make sure that we are taking reasonable
 precautions to prevent this from happening.

 One vulnerability, in theory, is that we have over 100 committers (123 to
 be exact) who have permission to modify the source code in Subversion.
 Each account is protected by a self-selected passcode.  It is not clear
 to
 me that we even have requirements on password complexity or expiration
 policies.   In any case, the weakness of this approach is not necessarily
 what you might think -- brute force attack on the password.  If someone
 wants to initiate a spear phishing attack against a committer, it would
 be something like:

 1) Standard phishing: a spoofed note from Apache Infra, with some
 invented
 story that asks you to change your password but first enter your old one
 for confirmation.  It leads you to a fake, non-Apache website.

 2) If you use the same passcode on multiple web services and one of them
 is
 compromised, say by retrieving the passcode hashes, then it is easy to do
 offline dictionary attacks (rainbow tables, etc.) and figure out your
 Apache password.

 3) If you lose control of your laptop, at a conference, bar, hotel,
 whatever, even temporarily, someone can gain access to your Subversion
 account, via applications that cache credentials, like TortoiseSVN.

 4) Similar to #3, but by taking control of your laptop via remote means,
 i.e., via a virus loaded on to your machine via another vulnerability.

 None of these things have happened to us yet, but all of these things are
 possible.

 So how do we reduce this risk?  There are a few things we do or should be
 doing already.

 1) Be careful on the machines that you use Subversion from.  Treat it
 like
 a machine where you access your bank account from.  If you are visiting
 risky sites or downloading and installing software from dubious places,
 then you are putting your Apache account at risk.

 2) Use a high-complexity Apache passcode, one not used by you on any
 other
 service.

 3) Change your passcode periodically, say every 90 days.

 4) On laptops be sure to set a strong login password, but also where
 available also a separate harddrive password.  These should also be
 strong
 passwords, not reused, and should be periodically changed.

 For those who are building binaries for distribution, the above guidance
 is
 even more critical.

 Of course, we also protect the code through our CTR process.  All active
 coders should be subscribed to the commits list and should be reviewing
 the
 changes that are made there.  Trust the code, not the person.  Remember,
 if
 we ever are attacked then it will be through someone's compromised
 account.  So if you see an odd check-in, say, from Juergen, don't just
 accept it saying Juergen knows what he is doing.  If it is odd, then it
 should be challenged.

 All of the above should already be going on today.  But I'd like to
 propose
 one change to our current process that will, I think, greatly increase
 security.  This would be to restrict SVN authorization for the code to
 only
 the subset of committers who are actively coding.  We should give this
 authorization freely to committers who request it.  But today we have 123
 committers, some of whom have never used Subversion, and some (like me)
 who
 edit /site and /ooo-site but never touch the code.  So we probably have
 90
 or more accounts that don't need access to the source code tree.  Since
 such used accounts are unlikely to be following the best practices
 outlined
 above (changing passwords periodically, etc.) then they are even more
 risky.  We lose nothing by removing authorization for those users, in
 order
 to reduce the risk profile.  Of course, on request 

Re: Which version of MSVC Express?

2013-01-20 Thread Issac Goldstand

On 21/01/2013 01:32, Ariel Constenla-Haile wrote:
as stated in the building guide, the Visual Studio 2008. Apache 
Committers had a MSD subscription that, AFAIK - I don't have the 
subscription -, gives you access to the Pro Edition and other stuff 
(I'm not sure if it is valid for this year, the announce was made at 
the beginning of 2012). Regards 
It's probably still in effect, and our MS liaison will likely announce 
the renewal for 2013 in the next 6-8 weeks, given it being close to a 
year since the 2012 ones went out.  Any committer can apply for it 
AFAIK, though there are a limited number of licenses.


  Issac