Re: Smart tags

2022-06-15 Thread Rory O'Farrell
On Wed, 15 Jun 2022 15:49:58 +0200
Czesław Wolański  wrote:

> Hi Rory,
> 
> Thanks for the information. Just for the record - there is no dev builds
> for Windows available at the moment
> https://www.openoffice.org/download/devbuilds.html

I use version from https://nightlies.apache.org/openoffice/
for linux64 (deb)

> I checked the Hanya example on Windows 7 & 11 with 4.1.12 and with two
> builds by Matthias (4.1.13 and 4.2).
> Attempting to install in 4.2 fails (the progress bar stands still in the
> Extension Manager).
> As to 4.1.12 and 4.1.13 - the "Environment variable" item doesn't work i.e.
> nothing gets substituted.

I cannot say for Windows versions as I now only run on linux; if there is no 
Environment variable matching the smart tagged keyword, there is no 
substitution (in my linux, $(LANG) will be substituted with "en_GB:en"

The failure to install might be due to different or missing Python or its 
libraries.

> 
> Best regards
> Czesław
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ср, 15 июн. 2022 г. в 13:56, Rory O'Farrell :
> 
> > Just for the record, the Hanya example I pointed to works on OpenOffice
> > 4.5.0 of a few days ago - I have no reason to doubt it will work on most if
> > not all versions of OpenOffice.  If tags of form $(Environment_variable)
> > such as $(LANG), $(USER), $(PAPERSIZE) [running on linux -not tested on
> > Windows or Mac] into the sample file, these can be replaced by the
> > appropriate value by the Smart tag mechanisms.
> >
> > Rory
> >
> > On Wed, 15 Jun 2022 13:31:34 +0200
> > Czesław Wolański  wrote:
> >
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > The extension site, two extensions employing Smart Tags:
> > >
> > > (1) "Simple calculator"
> > > https://extensions.openoffice.org/en/project/simple-calculator
> > >
> > > (2) "Latitude and Longitude"
> > > https://extensions.openoffice.org/en/project/latitude-and-longitude
> > >
> > > Both extensions work with version 3.4
> > > see / download the recording available at the following link:
> > >
> > https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Zn6UTTeM_9dJm-oNI3oESCxfUNI7Xh4s/view?usp=sharing
> > >
> > >
> > > Best regards,
> > > Czesław
> > >
> > > ср, 15 июн. 2022 г. в 10:23, Rory O'Farrell :
> > >
> > > > On Tue, 17 May 2022 17:50:31 +0200
> > > > Matthias Seidel  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hi Dick,
> > > > >
> > > > > Am 17.05.22 um 17:21 schrieb Dick Groskamp:
> > > > > > Mtthias,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I've seen them in a very oold OOo.
> > > > > > As far as I know it died quietly and has never been seen anymore.
> > > > >
> > > > > The code is still there... Maybe it could be useful again?
> > > > >
> > > > > But has it ever been published officially?
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Maybe this can shed some light for you:
> > > > > > https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Writer/Smart_Tags
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks for the link!
> > > > >
> > > > > I *thought* I did look for it on our Wiki but couldn't find
> > something.
> > > > ;-)
> > > > >
> > > > > Regards,
> > > > >
> > > > >Matthias
> > > >
> > > > Sorry for the delayed reply.  In this posting on the en-Forum, Hanya
> > gives
> > > > a short example oxt file (written in python).
> > > >
> > > > https://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?p=387917#p387917
> > > >
> > > > I have looked at smart tags from time to time, but always been
> > distracted
> > > > by something else.  My immediate thoughts are that (for me) they might
> > be
> > > > useful if general routines were written to permit certain words be
> > > > recognised (as tags) and the action associated with them be the
> > popping up
> > > > of an associate database entry or reports.  I'm thinking in terms of
> > the
> > > > background information concerned with writing a complex text, be it a
> > > > fiction or a historical analysis.  This is a different method of
> > > > implementing what is often called a "Writer's Organis

Re: Smart tags

2022-06-15 Thread Rory O'Farrell
Just for the record, the Hanya example I pointed to works on OpenOffice 4.5.0 
of a few days ago - I have no reason to doubt it will work on most if not all 
versions of OpenOffice.  If tags of form $(Environment_variable) such as 
$(LANG), $(USER), $(PAPERSIZE) [running on linux -not tested on Windows or Mac] 
into the sample file, these can be replaced by the appropriate value by the 
Smart tag mechanisms.

Rory

On Wed, 15 Jun 2022 13:31:34 +0200
Czesław Wolański  wrote:

> Hi all,
> 
> The extension site, two extensions employing Smart Tags:
> 
> (1) "Simple calculator"
> https://extensions.openoffice.org/en/project/simple-calculator
> 
> (2) "Latitude and Longitude"
> https://extensions.openoffice.org/en/project/latitude-and-longitude
> 
> Both extensions work with version 3.4
> see / download the recording available at the following link:
> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Zn6UTTeM_9dJm-oNI3oESCxfUNI7Xh4s/view?usp=sharing
> 
> 
> Best regards,
> Czesław
> 
> ср, 15 июн. 2022 г. в 10:23, Rory O'Farrell :
> 
> > On Tue, 17 May 2022 17:50:31 +0200
> > Matthias Seidel  wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Dick,
> > >
> > > Am 17.05.22 um 17:21 schrieb Dick Groskamp:
> > > > Mtthias,
> > > >
> > > > I've seen them in a very oold OOo.
> > > > As far as I know it died quietly and has never been seen anymore.
> > >
> > > The code is still there... Maybe it could be useful again?
> > >
> > > But has it ever been published officially?
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Maybe this can shed some light for you:
> > > > https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Writer/Smart_Tags
> > >
> > > Thanks for the link!
> > >
> > > I *thought* I did look for it on our Wiki but couldn't find something.
> > ;-)
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > >Matthias
> >
> > Sorry for the delayed reply.  In this posting on the en-Forum, Hanya gives
> > a short example oxt file (written in python).
> >
> > https://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?p=387917#p387917
> >
> > I have looked at smart tags from time to time, but always been distracted
> > by something else.  My immediate thoughts are that (for me) they might be
> > useful if general routines were written to permit certain words be
> > recognised (as tags) and the action associated with them be the popping up
> > of an associate database entry or reports.  I'm thinking in terms of the
> > background information concerned with writing a complex text, be it a
> > fiction or a historical analysis.  This is a different method of
> > implementing what is often called a "Writer's Organiser".  I remark that I
> > find the default "smart tag" underlining is barely visible.
> >
> > Hanya's example requires one to enter a tag of form !(text_word) (no white
> > space) and when it is ctrl clicked upon it will be replaced by an
> > environmental variable. His Recogniser uses a python regular expression to
> > identify the tags.
> >
> > Rory
> >
> >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > On 2022/05/17 13:56:33 Matthias Seidel wrote:
> > > >> Hi all,
> > > >>
> > > >> While browsing through the code, I found references to "smart tags":
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > http://opengrok.openoffice.org/search?project=trunk=%22smart+tag%22===%2Fmain==plain=full
> > > >>
> > > >> I have never seen that in real life. Can anyone tell me, what a smart
> > > >> tag is?
> > > >> Are there any extensions using this?
> > > >>
> > > >> Regards,
> > > >>
> > > >>Matthias
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
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> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
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Re: Smart tags

2022-06-15 Thread Rory O'Farrell
On Tue, 17 May 2022 17:50:31 +0200
Matthias Seidel  wrote:

> Hi Dick,
> 
> Am 17.05.22 um 17:21 schrieb Dick Groskamp:
> > Mtthias,
> >
> > I've seen them in a very oold OOo.
> > As far as I know it died quietly and has never been seen anymore.
> 
> The code is still there... Maybe it could be useful again?
> 
> But has it ever been published officially?
> 
> >
> > Maybe this can shed some light for you:
> > https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Writer/Smart_Tags
> 
> Thanks for the link!
> 
> I *thought* I did look for it on our Wiki but couldn't find something. ;-)
> 
> Regards,
> 
>    Matthias

Sorry for the delayed reply.  In this posting on the en-Forum, Hanya gives a 
short example oxt file (written in python).

https://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?p=387917#p387917

I have looked at smart tags from time to time, but always been distracted by 
something else.  My immediate thoughts are that (for me) they might be useful 
if general routines were written to permit certain words be recognised (as 
tags) and the action associated with them be the popping up of an associate 
database entry or reports.  I'm thinking in terms of the background information 
concerned with writing a complex text, be it a fiction or a historical 
analysis.  This is a different method of implementing what is often called a 
"Writer's Organiser".  I remark that I find the default "smart tag" underlining 
is barely visible.

Hanya's example requires one to enter a tag of form !(text_word) (no white 
space) and when it is ctrl clicked upon it will be replaced by an environmental 
variable. His Recogniser uses a python regular expression to identify the tags. 
 

Rory
   

> 
> >
> > On 2022/05/17 13:56:33 Matthias Seidel wrote:
> >> Hi all,
> >>
> >> While browsing through the code, I found references to "smart tags":
> >>
> >> http://opengrok.openoffice.org/search?project=trunk=%22smart+tag%22===%2Fmain==plain=full
> >>
> >> I have never seen that in real life. Can anyone tell me, what a smart
> >> tag is?
> >> Are there any extensions using this?
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >>
> >>    Matthias
> >>
> >>
> >>
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Re: [IMPORTANT] Scheduling Maintenance for our Forum

2022-05-01 Thread Rory O'Farrell
On Sun, 1 May 2022 20:47:36 +0200
Peter Kovacs  wrote:

> Hi Charlie,
> 
> 
> You are right the communication is not really clear on Sysadmin and PMC 
> side. The only hint I found was [1]. :-/
> 
> We have not communicated over forum-admin at all. (and I just remembered 
> the mailing list after I was searching for the communications I have 
> read. :-( ) I think that we need to improve this.
> 
> I don't think the action points are on your side. Also the maintenance 
> schedule happened quite short notice despite I know that the web stuff 
> needs to be moved for quite some time.
> 
> I think about it and try to think of ways to improve overall 
> communications, and try to bring all volunteers better together.
> 
> 
> All the best
> 
> Peter

I have posted the down notice on the en-Forum

Rory

> 
> [1] https://lists.apache.org/thread/hyym0lmlfpk9n9n9rbo0zs92xpr2zzdf
> 
> Am 01.05.22 um 18:37 schrieb casa...@email.it:
> > Hello, the operation takes place without being communicated to me as an 
> > administrator of the Italian forum.
> > Do you know if there are any precautions to take? Thanks.
> >
> > charlie
> >
> > - Messaggio originale -
> > Da: "Rory O'Farrell" 
> > A: "dev" 
> > Inviato: Domenica, 1 maggio 2022 15:59:32
> > Oggetto: Re: [IMPORTANT] Scheduling Maintenance for our Forum
> >
> > On Sun, 1 May 2022 15:53:47 +0200
> > Peter Kovacs  wrote:
> >
> >> Hello all,
> >>
> >>
> >> please note, that we schedule a maintenance for the Forum in order to
> >> move database and content to a new machine. This maintenance tasks
> >> includes also a phpBB updates to a recent version, with all the Forum
> >> Modification ported.
> >>
> >> The downtime will take place from Monday, 2nd March 2022 1800 UTC until
> >> the end of the same day.
> >>
> >>
> >> All the best
> >>
> >> Peter
> >>
> > Possible typo?  March in place of May?
> >
> > Rory
> >
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Re: [IMPORTANT] Scheduling Maintenance for our Forum

2022-05-01 Thread Rory O'Farrell
On Sun, 1 May 2022 15:53:47 +0200
Peter Kovacs  wrote:

> Hello all,
> 
> 
> please note, that we schedule a maintenance for the Forum in order to 
> move database and content to a new machine. This maintenance tasks 
> includes also a phpBB updates to a recent version, with all the Forum 
> Modification ported.
> 
> The downtime will take place from Monday, 2nd March 2022 1800 UTC until 
> the end of the same day.
> 
> 
> All the best
> 
> Peter
> 

Possible typo?  March in place of May?

Rory

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Re: The AOO forums have not worked for several days.

2022-04-22 Thread Rory O'Farrell
On Fri, 22 Apr 2022 11:43:15 +0200 (CEST)
Bidouille  wrote:

> Miracle?
> Forums are back :-)


Well done, Dave Fisher.

Response still intermittent, but better than nothing - more fine tuning needed?

Rory

> 
> - Mail original -
> > De: "Dave Fisher" 
> > À: "dev" , "Gavin McDonald" 
> > , us...@openoffice.apache.org
> > Cc: sysad...@openoffice.apache.org
> > Envoyé: Vendredi 22 Avril 2022 01:25:14
> > Objet: Re: The AOO forums have not worked for several days.
> > 
> > Hi -
> > 
> > I’ve been working on the issue today without success. I’m taking some
> > time away from work to focus on completion of this migration.
> > 
> > It looks like some type of DOS issue. We’ve been slowly building a
> > new box for quite some time.
> > 
> > Please stay tuned for progress tomorrow. I will ask for volunteers to
> > test on a new url. Once functionality is confirmed we will complete
> > the data transfer.
> > 
> > Anyone who has time, phpBB/httpd/PHP coding experience, and linux
> > sysadmin knowledge is very welcome to volunteer to help going
> > forward. If you want to volunteer send an email to
> > sysad...@openoffice.apache.org
> > 
> > Regards,
> > Dave
> > 
> > > On Apr 21, 2022, at 3:49 AM, Gavin McDonald 
> > > wrote:
> > > 
> > > Hi All,
> > > 
> > > On Thu, Apr 21, 2022 at 12:37 PM Matthias Seidel
> > > 
> > > wrote:
> > > 
> > >> It could help to change the status to "Waiting for Infra" for that
> > >> ticket.
> > >> 
> > >> At the moment it is "Waiting for User" so Infra is waiting for
> > >> input...
> > >> 
> > > 
> > > Infra does not maintain the AOO forums, or wiki, or translate , or
> > > ...
> > > 
> > > someone from the OpenOffice project needs to be looking into this
> > > and
> > > resolving,
> > > or, if they find an issue with the VM itself, then escalate to
> > > Infra.
> > > 
> > > Gav...
> > > 
> > > 
> > >> 
> > >> Regards,
> > >> 
> > >>   Matthias
> > >> 
> > >> Am 21.04.22 um 08:34 schrieb Bidouille:
> > >>> This morning (since France), no access to
> > >>> ooo-forum3-vm.apache.org
> > >> [54.84.201.130]
> > >>> An issue report has been opened here:
> > >>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-23156
> > >>> No news so I suggest you to append your comment.
> > >>> 
> > >>> - Mail original -
> > >>>> De: casa...@email.it
> > >>>> À: "dev" 
> > >>>> Envoyé: Jeudi 21 Avril 2022 07:51:11
> > >>>> Objet: Re: The AOO forums have not worked for several days.
> > >>>> 
> > >>>> The situation continues not to improve, normal navigation is
> > >>>> impossible.
> > >>>> Anyone know who to call to make things right?
> > >>>> 
> > >>>> - Messaggio originale -
> > >>>> Da: "Larry Gusaas" 
> > >>>> A: "dev" 
> > >>>> Inviato: Mercoledì, 20 aprile 2022 20:18:29
> > >>>> Oggetto: Re: The AOO forums have not worked for several days.
> > >>>> 
> > >>>> On 2022-04-20 12:05 p.m., Larry Gusaas wrote:
> > >>>>> On 2022-04-20 10:50 a.m., Rory O'Farrell wrote:
> > >>>>>> On Wed, 20 Apr 2022 18:28:22 +0200 (CEST)
> > >>>>>> casa...@email.it  wrote:
> > >>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>> The AOO forums have not worked for several days.
> > >>>>>>> Is there anyone here who can do something?
> > >>>>>>> As administrator of the Italian forum I can't log in, the
> > >>>>>>> connection times out.
> > >>>>>>> I have no different access to the forum.
> > >>>>>>> 
> > >>>>>>> charlie
> > >>>>>> They are very intermittent, sometimes working, more frequently
> > >>>>>> timing out.  Out of
> > >>>>>> curiosity, please try a traceroute to forum.openoffice.org,
> > >>>>>> which
> > >>>>>> might show up if there was
> > >

Re: The AOO forums have not worked for several days.

2022-04-20 Thread Rory O'Farrell
On Wed, 20 Apr 2022 18:28:22 +0200 (CEST)
casa...@email.it wrote:

> The AOO forums have not worked for several days. 
> Is there anyone here who can do something? 
> As administrator of the Italian forum I can't log in, the connection times 
> out. 
> I have no different access to the forum.
> 
> charlie

They are very intermittent, sometimes working, more frequently timing out.  Out 
of curiosity, please try a traceroute to forum.openoffice.org, which might show 
up if there was a connection problem on the route(s) to that site.  

It was reported that the server had been restarted, so the problem may be 
elsewhere.

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Re: Forums OpenOffice are very slow

2022-04-19 Thread Rory O'Farrell
On Tue, 19 Apr 2022 10:00:14 +0200 (CEST)
Bidouille  wrote:

> Still continue today: too long to respond
> ooo-forum3-vm.apache.org [54.84.201.130]
> ping OK but KO with traceroute (timeout delay)


Still intermittent (19/04/22 1755 UTC+1) - sometimes active, sometimes timing 
out

Rory 

> - Mail original -
> > De: "Dick Groskamp" 
> > À: dev@openoffice.apache.org
> > Envoyé: Lundi 18 Avril 2022 15:02:31
> > Objet: Re: Forums OpenOffice are very slow
> > 
> > Seems to happen again, at least from where I live.
> > Created an issue for Infra (INFRA-23156)
> > 
> > On 2022/04/17 16:38:29 Dave Fisher wrote:
> > > Hi -
> > > 
> > > I’ve restarted Apache HTTPD. Seems fine from California …
> > > 
> > > Regards,
> > > Dave
> > > 
> > > > On Apr 17, 2022, at 8:34 AM, Rory O'Farrell 
> > > > wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > On Sun, 17 Apr 2022 15:20:39 -
> > > > Dick Groskamp  wrote:
> > > > 
> > > >> Sent an email to Infra since the forums are still not
> > > >> responding.
> > > >> Apache Status page does not mention any incident for today or
> > > >> yesterday
> > > >> 
> > > > 
> > > > Response has improved on Sunday (17 April 2022) though not yet
> > > > perfect.  My tests are showing
> > > > connection problems onwards from London - traceroute timing out.
> > > > 
> > > > RoryOF
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > >> 
> > > >> On 2022/04/17 05:44:55 casa...@email.it wrote:
> > > >>> The forums have not opened for almost 24 hours.
> > > >>> 
> > > >>> - Messaggio originale -
> > > >>> Da: "Bidouille" 
> > > >>> A: "dev" 
> > > >>> Inviato: Sabato, 16 aprile 2022 18:25:52
> > > >>> Oggetto: Forums OpenOffice are very slow
> > > >>> 
> > > >>> Hello,
> > > >>> Since this morning, forums are very slw.
> > > >>> I don't know if this comes from PhpBB or MySQL.
> > > >>> Maybe restart all services?
> > > >>> 
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Re: Forums OpenOffice are very slow

2022-04-17 Thread Rory O'Farrell
On Sun, 17 Apr 2022 15:20:39 -
Dick Groskamp  wrote:

> Sent an email to Infra since the forums are still not responding.
> Apache Status page does not mention any incident for today or yesterday
> 

Response has improved on Sunday (17 April 2022) though not yet perfect.  My 
tests are showing
connection problems onwards from London - traceroute timing out.

RoryOF


> 
> On 2022/04/17 05:44:55 casa...@email.it wrote:
> > The forums have not opened for almost 24 hours.
> > 
> > - Messaggio originale -
> > Da: "Bidouille" 
> > A: "dev" 
> > Inviato: Sabato, 16 aprile 2022 18:25:52
> > Oggetto: Forums OpenOffice are very slow
> > 
> > Hello,
> > Since this morning, forums are very slw.
> > I don't know if this comes from PhpBB or MySQL.
> > Maybe restart all services?
> > 
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Re: OpenOffice wordmark exploration (yet without the "Apache" mention)

2022-02-15 Thread Rory O'Farrell
On Tue, 15 Feb 2022 17:10:12 +0100
Corentin Verbrèghe  wrote:

> I really don't know what you expect from me.
> 
> Regards.
> Coren tin

I think all would like to see some images for changed icons.

Rory

 
> Le lun. 14 févr. 2022 à 16:24, Corentin Verbrèghe <
> corentin.verbreg...@gmail.com> a écrit :
> 
> > Hello,
> > What are you expecting from me ?
> > Cordially.
> > Manjiro (Corentin)
> >
> > Le lun. 14 févr. 2022 à 16:09, Dave Fisher  a écrit :
> >
> >> FYI you already are discussing logos with the Apache OpenOffice Project
> >> Management Committee. We’d like to see what you are offering to contribute.
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >>
> >> > On Feb 13, 2022, at 11:00 PM, Corentin Verbrèghe <
> >> corentin.verbreg...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > I know the causes now, but I may still request Apache to modify the
> >> > icon-logos (especially those of Writer and other products).
> >> > Cordially.
> >> > Manjiro (Corentin)
> >> >
> >> > Le dim. 13 févr. 2022 à 23:05, Pedro Lino  >> .invalid>
> >> > a écrit :
> >> >
> >> >> Hi Manjiro
> >> >>
> >> >>> On 02/13/2022 8:36 PM Corentin Verbrèghe <
> >> corentin.verbreg...@gmail.com>
> >> >> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>> I think by making a request to Apache to change the icons of Writer
> >> and
> >> >>> other software, they may agree.
> >> >>
> >> >> Only the Blue Orb icon (or Logo) is part of the trademark. Icons for
> >> >> Writer or any other modules as well as icons for the toolbars are not
> >> >> included in the trademark and can be changed.
> >> >>
> >> >> This is not a restriction to our freedom but a way to guarantee that
> >> even
> >> >> though anyone can use the freely available source code, they can not
> >> >> commercialize or offer a product named OpenOffice or use the same Logo
> >> >> In any case it is not Apache that restricts our freedom ;)
> >> >>
> >> >> Thank you for volunteering to contribute! I hope these small legal
> >> quirks
> >> >> do not demotivate you!
> >> >>
> >> >> All the best,
> >> >> Pedro
> >> >>
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Re: OpenOffice wordmark exploration (yet without the "Apache" mention)

2022-02-13 Thread Rory O'Farrell
On Sun, 13 Feb 2022 18:59:00 +0100
Matthias Seidel  wrote:

> Am 13.02.22 um 18:53 schrieb Corentin Verbrèghe:
> > It's a shame... The logo is much too flat, not dynamic enough.
> > OpenOffice is therefore not entirely free.
> 
> I think you don't understand trademarks... ;-)
> 
> The source code is free. You can build it with whatever graphics you
> want to use.
> 
> But you would need to find a new name for it, since you wouldn't be
> allowed to call it OpenOffice.


You could change the toolbar icons, while leaving the icons identifying the 
suite and the applications untouched.

Rory

> >
> > Cordially.
> >
> > Manjiro (Corentin)
> >
> >
> > Le dim. 13 févr. 2022 à 18:33, Matthias Seidel 
> > a écrit :
> >
> >> Am 13.02.22 um 18:28 schrieb Corentin Verbrèghe:
> >>> Thank you for the icon pack proposals, they should be modified to make
> >> them
> >>> slightly more colorful.
> >>> Cordially.
> >>> Manjiro (Corentin)
> >>>
> >>> PS: I created the icon-logo of OpenOffice for the moment, I just added a
> >>> gradient but I find that the logo is too flat.
> >>> Available here : https://manjiro.wixsite.com/brandnewopenoffice
> >> The OpenOffice Orb is a trademark. It is unlikely that it will be
> >> changed in the near future.
> >>> Le dim. 13 févr. 2022 à 18:06, Matthias Seidel <
> >> matthias.sei...@hamburg.de>
> >>> a écrit :
> >>>
> >>>> Hi,
> >>>>
> >>>> Am 13.02.22 um 17:56 schrieb Bidouille:
> >>>>>>>> If what you consider doing is a remake of icons and appearance,
> >>>>>>>> I'm
> >>>>>>>> sure all would welcome this; it would be good that one could
> >>>>>>>> switch
> >>>>>>>> between one them and another, so that the older theme was also
> >>>>>>>> available.
> >>>>>> BTW: The "Industrial" icon set is still missing a lot of icons...
> >>>>> Idea: creating a new set of icons with this resource
> >>>>> https://iconoir.com/
> >>>> This does not refer to Industrial, I think?
> >>>>
> >>>> But we do have enough icon libraries to choose from, it just needs
> >>>> people to do the actual work. ;-)
> >>>>
> >>>> (https://remixicon.com/ is one of them and is distributed under Apache
> >>>> License)
> >>>>
> >>>> Regards,
> >>>>
> >>>>Matthias
> >>>>
> >>>>> :-)
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Re: OpenOffice wordmark exploration (yet without the "Apache" mention)

2022-02-13 Thread Rory O'Farrell
On Sun, 13 Feb 2022 13:42:12 +0100
Corentin Verbrèghe  wrote:

> It's the opposite in France in any case, OpenOffice is considered there as
> almost “dead”.
> Cordially.
> Manjiro (Corentin)


If what you consider doing is a remake of icons and appearance, I'm sure all 
would welcome this; it would be good that one could switch between one them and 
another, so that the older theme was also available. 

Rory


> 
> Le dim. 13 févr. 2022 à 12:33, Matthias Seidel 
> a écrit :
> 
> > A more significant portion of people does not think so.
> >
> > Am 13.02.22 um 11:14 schrieb Corentin Verbrèghe:
> > > Hi,
> > > A significant portion of people outside the project believe it is out of
> > > date.
> > >
> > > Cordially.
> > > Manjiro (Corentin)
> > >
> > > Le sam. 12 févr. 2022 à 20:19, Carl Marcum  a écrit
> > :
> > >
> > >> Hi Corentin,
> > >>
> > >> On 2/12/22 1:45 PM, Corentin Verbrèghe wrote:
> > >>> My project is to make OpenOffice better, more current, more cool. I
> > wish
> > >>> OpenOffice would come alive again.
> > >>> Cordially.
> > >>> Manjiro (Corentin)
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >> I'm not sure what you are proposing to work on.
> > >> Is it a website, logos, the office program itself, or something else?
> > >>
> > >> Maybe you could start by letting us know what you propose and why.
> > >>
> > >> And we're very much not dead :)
> > >>
> > >> Best regards,
> > >> Carl
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
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Re: Having problems with page numbering when I'm working with documents

2022-02-09 Thread Rory O'Farrell
On Tue, 8 Feb 2022 21:16:38 -0500 (EST)
PETER LOVE  wrote:

> Hello:
> 
> Having a problem with properly 'page numbering' my documents / files . . .  
> I'll place ( at the bottom center ) a page number in a document; going down, 
> scrolling down more and more .  .  . 
> 
> As an example, this recently happened:  Had been page formatting a document . 
>  .  . and, deciding to take a break for a bit, I stopped and numbered the 
> last page I was numbering, which was '50'  Well, I scrolled back up as to 
> take a final look at my work --- and they were all numbered 50 .  .  . !! And 
> I'd just painstakingly went down one by one, 1 .  .  . 2 .  .  .  3 .  .  .  
> 4 .  .  .  5 .  .  .  and so on, etc. I'm still playing with the program 
> again and again, every chance I get. I'm learning and understanding how to do 
> it correctly, in increments. It's annoying, even when I have to hit 'save' 
> over to the left after every new numbering. What am I supposed to do to fix 
> that or correct it? 
> 
> 
> Peter  Love 

In place of an actual number, /Insert /Field /Page Number.  

You may also find this Tutorial helpful:
Page Numbers:  https://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=71=1221

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Re: ASCll problem ???

2021-11-23 Thread Rory O'Farrell
On Tue, 23 Nov 2021 08:42:37 -0700
James Jenkins  wrote:

> My spreadsheet file will not open from either "shortcut or document 
> folder", been using this file for years.  keep getting ASCll Filter 
> Options (character set unicode, English, . . . )
> 
> Live in United State, Arizona

Your file is damaged beyond repair, possibly due to over hasty power off of 
your computer or closure of laptop lid, before the file housekeeping had been 
transmitted

As soon as possible try the methods in this tutorial
https://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=71=85038 for detailed 
instructions on how to

a) use Previous Versions (W7 and later) to recover previous versions of the 
file.

b) recover your file as it was when you last opened or saved it, or as it was 
when it was last saved with AutoRecovery;

c) find previous versions of the file in the folder it is located in, but which 
have since been deleted;

d) un-delete the temporary files AOO wrote while you were editing the file, and 
then deleted.  This may recover your file as it was when you last opened or you 
last saved it.

Waste no time with the existing file - it will have no usable content.

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Re: Apache OpenOffice available in the Microsoft Store on Windows 10

2021-11-19 Thread Rory O'Farrell
On Thu, 18 Nov 2021 16:27:56 -0800
farhad khosravi  wrote:

> Hi,
> I just downloaded the Apache and was trying to install it on my MacBook with 
> OS 11.6 but I got a message that [“Open Office” can not be opened because the 
> developer can not be verified]
> What can I do to get it installed.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Farhad
> 
> Sent from my iPhone

You need to read Q05/A05 in 
https://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=74=89283

Apple Gatekeeper is preventing your install. The above Q/A should solve your 
problem.

RoryOF


> 
> > On Nov 18, 2021, at 3:53 PM, Marcus  wrote:
> > 
> > Am 18.11.21 um 21:51 schrieb Matthias Seidel:
> >> Apache OpenOffice has already been available in the new Microsoft Store on 
> >> Windows 11 since October.
> >> With the latest App update, the new store is also coming to Windows 10.
> >> Users can now install the latest OpenOffice version with a single click!
> >> The Store Listings are localized in English, German, Italian, Polish and 
> >> Portuguese.
> >> Feel free to contact me if you want to add more languages or if you have 
> >> any questions.
> > 
> > great news. :-)
> > 
> > Then the new version was worth it to release at this point of time - to be 
> > ready for the Win 10 store.
> > 
> > Marcus
> > 
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Re: AOO.4.5 don't work in Debian 9

2021-10-16 Thread Rory O'Farrell
On Fri, 15 Oct 2021 18:53:10 -0400 (CDT)
Delio Orozco Gonzalez  wrote:

> Rory:
> 
> I installed AOO.4.5.0 english vertion and the error message is the follow:
> 
> The application cannot be started. 
> exception occurred raising singleton 
> "/singletons/com.sun.star.deployment.ExtensionManager": loading component 
> library failed: file:///opt/openoffice4/program/../program/deployment.uno.so
> 
> I use:
> 
> SO: Debian 9
> Kernel:  4.9.0-16
> Desktop: Ice Window Manager 2.8.0
> JRE: openjdk-8-jre
> 
> Regards, Delio.

I don't know why it won't install for you.  It does so for me, as I said.

Rory
> 
> - Mensaje original -
> De: "Rory O'Farrell" 
> Para: "dev" 
> Enviados: Viernes, 15 de Octubre 2021 14:25:47
> Asunto: Re: AOO.4.5 don't work in Debian 9
> 
> On Fri, 15 Oct 2021 13:57:08 -0400 (CDT)
> Delio Orozco Gonzalez  wrote:
> 
> > Hi: 
> > 
> > AOO_4.5 don't work in Debian 9. I downloaded from 
> > https://ci.apache.org/projects/openoffice/install/linux64/ the vertion in 
> > spanish and I recive this message fron the terminal: 
> > 
> > exception occurred raising singleton 
> > "/singletons/com.sun.star.deployment.ExtensionManager": loading component 
> > library failed: [ file:///opt/openoffice4/program/deployment.uno.so | 
> > file:///opt/openoffice4/program/../program/deployment.uno.so ] 
> > 
> > AOO_4.2_dev3 work fine. I use IceWM. 
> > 
> > Regards, 
> > 
> > Delio. 
> 
> 4.5.0 works OK for me on Xubuntu 20.04.3, using en-US version
> 
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Re: AOO.4.5 don't work in Debian 9

2021-10-15 Thread Rory O'Farrell
On Fri, 15 Oct 2021 13:57:08 -0400 (CDT)
Delio Orozco Gonzalez  wrote:

> Hi: 
> 
> AOO_4.5 don't work in Debian 9. I downloaded from 
> https://ci.apache.org/projects/openoffice/install/linux64/ the vertion in 
> spanish and I recive this message fron the terminal: 
> 
> exception occurred raising singleton 
> "/singletons/com.sun.star.deployment.ExtensionManager": loading component 
> library failed: [ file:///opt/openoffice4/program/deployment.uno.so | 
> file:///opt/openoffice4/program/../program/deployment.uno.so ] 
> 
> AOO_4.2_dev3 work fine. I use IceWM. 
> 
> Regards, 
> 
> Delio. 

4.5.0 works OK for me on Xubuntu 20.04.3, using en-US version

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Re: docx2odt converters

2021-09-15 Thread Rory O'Farrell
On Wed, 15 Sep 2021 10:58:49 +0200
Guy Waterval  wrote:

> Hello all,
> 
> I received a mail from a user having difficulties importing MS Word
> documents to AOO.  Here is the text of the message :
> "I am having a problem displaying a C/D (that is formatted in Word) , but I
> have Apache Open Office installed on my Win.10 system. I would like to
> avoid  having to go through Google & I would like a free program".
> As I never import MS documents in AOO, I have no experience with such a
> problem. I'd like to know if somebody has an experience with the docx2odt
> converters available on the web.
> 
> Many thanks for your help.
> -- 
> G. Waterval

I have no experience with docx conversions other than as handled by OpenOffice; 
I have used and recommend the free online service of 
www.zamzar.com
for assorted conversions to/from various file formats.
I think they also provide a pay service.

However, conversion to/from differing formats always carries an overhead of 
some possible reformatting; how much of this is acceptable from any given 
conversion process is a matter for the individual.
 
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Re: problem with spell checker even after I installed version 4.1.10

2021-08-02 Thread Rory O'Farrell
On Mon, 2 Aug 2021 16:46:58 +
Daniel Caputa  wrote:

> Hello. My name is Daniel Caputa and  I’m having trouble with the spell 
> checker and the language. I’m using windows 10. When I go to “auto spell 
> check”, it shows everything I type with red squiggle lines under the words. I 
> checked everything for the language and every other thing it told me to check 
> but it still doesn’t work properly. One example is when I type the word “is” 
> it comes up E1. If I try to use “auto spell check” a little red line comes up 
> under each word. If I go to “spelling and grammar”, it highlights each word 
> as the wrong spelling, even if they’re spelled correctly. I even went to 
> “repair problems” which didn’t work.  I know my spell checker is working good 
> on my other programs because as I have been typing this letter, it’s been 
> correcting my spelling. Could you please instruct me as to what I could do to 
> correct my problem??? I’ll be looking forward to hearing from you. Thanks 
> Dan!!

Start by renaming your OpenOffice user profile.

If you are using Windows close OpenOffice and the Quickstarter. Open File
Explorer. Copy and paste %appdata%\OpenOffice\4 in the File Explorer (sometimes 
called Windows Explorer)
Address Bar and press Enter. Rename the "user" folder - "user.old" is a
good choice. Start OpenOffice.

This cures most spellcheck problems.

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Re: Login

2021-07-04 Thread Rory O'Farrell
On Sun,  4 Jul 2021 08:12:55 +
Peter Kovacs  wrote:

> Hi Neil,
> 
> 
> I cced the right mailing list.
> 
> which webside? We have multiple logins you could reference to. :)
> 
> And which user? This email?
> 
> 
> All the best
> 
> Peter

I have checked with userlist on en-Forum and can find no registration of any 
kind - active or suspended - for that email.

RoryOF
> 
> On 04.07.21 00:06, Neil Murphy wrote:
> > I am told by the web site that my userid has been suspended. It does not 
> > say how to reach the administrator. So would you please re-instate me?
> > neilhmurphy at neilhmur...@outlook.com
> >
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Re: ODF 1.3

2021-06-17 Thread Rory O'Farrell
On Wed, 16 Jun 2021 19:34:11 -0400
Drew Jensen  wrote:

> Howdy,
> 
> Perhaps you missed this;
> There is an appendix found in each of the OASIS documents (from the
> first email URL) which lists the changes from 1.2 for the items
> covered in that part of the spec.
> 
> Or are you looking for something beyond that?
> 
> Drew


Thank you, Drew

I'll look at that later - early morning here, trying to get my brain started!

Rory

> 
> On Wed, Jun 16, 2021 at 2:18 PM Rory O'Farrell  wrote:
> >
> > On Wed, 16 Jun 2021 20:02:46 +0200
> > Matthias Seidel  wrote:
> >
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > FYI:
> > >
> > > https://www.oasis-open.org/2021/06/16/opendocument-v1-3-oasis-standard-published/
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > >Matthias
> >
> > It would be helpful if there was also a listing of the differences with ODF 
> > 1.2.  I haven't yet found one.
> >
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Re: ODF 1.3

2021-06-16 Thread Rory O'Farrell
On Wed, 16 Jun 2021 20:02:46 +0200
Matthias Seidel  wrote:

> Hi all,
> 
> FYI:
> 
> https://www.oasis-open.org/2021/06/16/opendocument-v1-3-oasis-standard-published/
> 
> Regards,
> 
>    Matthias

It would be helpful if there was also a listing of the differences with ODF 
1.2.  I haven't yet found one.

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Re: Error on link of download for A00.4.5.0

2021-06-11 Thread Rory O'Farrell
On Fri, 11 Jun 2021 14:25:21 -0400 (CDT)
Delio Orozco Gonzalez  wrote:

> Hi: 
> 
> I wish download the file AOO.4.5.0.x86-64.deb.es. and I recieve an error 
> message: 
> 
> No Such Resource 
> File not found. 
> 
> Regards to all, 
> 
> Delio. 

I have just tested

The url is
https://ci.apache.org/projects/openoffice/install/win/Apache_OpenOffice_4.5.0_Win_x86_install_es_07619cfbb1.exe

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Re: AOo 4.5.0 builds

2021-06-01 Thread Rory O'Farrell
On Tue, 1 Jun 2021 13:25:26 -0400 (CDT)
Delio Orozco Gonzalez  wrote:

> Hello Mathias and Rory:
> 
> I unpack the file with "tar vxf" and in the process recieve the next error 
> messages:
> 
> tar: Fin de fichero inesperado en el archivo
> tar: rmtlseek no paró en los límites de un registro
> tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now


If you get a file unpacking error, it is probably because of a bad download and 
it is unwise to install from that.  If tar cannot find the end of the archive, 
that strongly suggests the download is bad or incomplete.

I will try an unpack on the 4.5.0 es version to check if it unpacks correctly 
or not.

I have just unpacked my download, and it unpacked correctly.  Try a fresh 
download.

Rory

> 
> Then, when I trate install, this are the error messages:
> 
> 1.-dpkg: error al procesar el archivo 
> openoffice-es-res_4.5.0_1_linux-4.15-x86_64.deb (--install): no se pudieron 
> copiar los datos extraídos de './opt/openoffice4/program/resource/sdbtes.res' 
> a '/opt/openoffice4/program/resource/sdbtes.res.dpkg-new': fin de fichero o 
> de flujo inesperado 
> 
> 2.-dpkg: problemas de dependencias impiden la configuración de 
> openoffice-brand-es:  openoffice-brand-es depende de openoffice-es-res; sin 
> embargo: El paquete `openoffice-es-res' no está instalado.
> 
> 3.-dpkg: problemas de dependencias impiden la configuración de 
> openoffice-brand-es:  openoffice-brand-es depende de openoffice-es-res; sin 
> embargo: El paquete `openoffice-es-res' no está instalado.
> 
> 4.-dpkg: problemas de dependencias impiden la configuración de 
> openoffice-brand-es: openoffice-brand-es depende de openoffice-es-res; sin 
> embargo: El paquete `openoffice-es-res' no está instalado.
> 
> Remember, I donwloaded the spanish vertion of  Apache_OpenOffice.4.5.0
> 
> Regards for all, Delio.
> 
> - Mensaje original -
> De: "Rory O'Farrell" 
> Para: "dev" 
> Enviados: Martes, 1 de Junio 2021 6:57:05
> Asunto: Re: AOo 4.5.0 builds
> 
> On Mon, 31 May 2021 18:41:24 -0400 (CDT)
> Delio Orozco Gonzalez  wrote:
> 
> > Hello Matias: 
> > 
> > I donwloaded from  
> > https://ci.apache.org/projects/openoffice/install/linux64/, the vertion for 
> > spanish with the link: 
> > Apache_OpenOffice_4.5.0_Linux_x86-64_install-deb_es_2021-05-11_04:13:41_b82be50fa0f1a4e9f27bc8d6c5da1904c31a998f.tar.gz
> >   
> > 
> > And I can't install because when I unpack the file I get a error messages 
> > with the compacted archive. I work with Debian 9.
> > 
> > Regards, Delio.
> 
> The archives are sensitive to the precise parameters passed to the archive 
> manager.
> 
> I found
> [code]
> tar vzf filename.tar.gz
> [/code]
> 
> works for me.
> 
> Rory
> 
> > 
> > - Mensaje original -
> > De: "Matthias Seidel" 
> > Para: "dev" 
> > Enviados: Domingo, 30 de Mayo 2021 16:42:13
> > Asunto: Re: AOo 4.5.0 builds
> > 
> > Hi Rory,
> > 
> > Am 30.05.21 um 22:34 schrieb Rory O'Farrell:
> > > On Sun, 30 May 2021 22:14:13 +0200
> > > Matthias Seidel  wrote:
> > >
> > >> Hi Rory,
> > >>
> > >> This is for Linux only (450 and 42X), Windows builds are fine.
> > > Having moved away from Windows some 12/13 years ago, I now live a very 
> > > happy life!
> > 
> > I am on Linux for 8 years now, but 80% of our users are on Windows.
> > 
> > So Windows is my main concern.
> > 
> > >
> > > Thanks for the help.
> > 
> > You're welcome!
> > 
> > Matthias
> > 
> > >
> > >> I have informed Infra
> > >>
> > >> Regards,
> > >>
> > >>    Matthias
> > >>
> > >> Am 30.05.21 um 22:11 schrieb Rory O'Farrell:
> > >>> The automatic builds of 4.5.0, which used be updated every day or two, 
> > >>> seem to have ceased.  The builds at
> > >>>
> > >>> https://ci.apache.org/projects/openoffice/install/linux64/
> > >>>
> > >>> have not been updated since 11th May.
> > >
> > 
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Re: Where can I get help with a complicated menu problem (API)?

2021-06-01 Thread Rory O'Farrell
On Tue, 1 Jun 2021 09:12:05 +0200
Jörg Schmidt  wrote:

> Hello,
> 
> Peter had asked me to write a small extension, which I did. For the 
> meaningful operation of the extension it would be necessary to be able to set 
> a check mark at a, self-defined, menu item.
> The question is formulated here more exactly (and the short answer there does 
> not help me unfortunately):
> https://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=20=105315#p511270
> 
> 
> Can someone help me?
> 
> My hope is that someone knows who used to work as a programmer at OOo/SUN 
> with a focus on menus and can still be contacted today. 
> 
> 
> greetings,
> Jörg

In this thread
[url]https://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=20=99632[/url]

Hubert Lambert in the second last post gives some BASIC code to modify the item 
name in the menu bar.  This would surely allow you replace the item name with 
"Item Name "

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Re: AOo 4.5.0 builds

2021-06-01 Thread Rory O'Farrell
On Mon, 31 May 2021 18:41:24 -0400 (CDT)
Delio Orozco Gonzalez  wrote:

> Hello Matias: 
> 
> I donwloaded from  
> https://ci.apache.org/projects/openoffice/install/linux64/, the vertion for 
> spanish with the link: 
> Apache_OpenOffice_4.5.0_Linux_x86-64_install-deb_es_2021-05-11_04:13:41_b82be50fa0f1a4e9f27bc8d6c5da1904c31a998f.tar.gz
>   
> 
> And I can't install because when I unpack the file I get a error messages 
> with the compacted archive. I work with Debian 9.
> 
> Regards, Delio.

The archives are sensitive to the precise parameters passed to the archive 
manager.

I found
[code]
tar vzf filename.tar.gz
[/code]

works for me.

Rory

> 
> - Mensaje original -
> De: "Matthias Seidel" 
> Para: "dev" 
> Enviados: Domingo, 30 de Mayo 2021 16:42:13
> Asunto: Re: AOo 4.5.0 builds
> 
> Hi Rory,
> 
> Am 30.05.21 um 22:34 schrieb Rory O'Farrell:
> > On Sun, 30 May 2021 22:14:13 +0200
> > Matthias Seidel  wrote:
> >
> >> Hi Rory,
> >>
> >> This is for Linux only (450 and 42X), Windows builds are fine.
> > Having moved away from Windows some 12/13 years ago, I now live a very 
> > happy life!
> 
> I am on Linux for 8 years now, but 80% of our users are on Windows.
> 
> So Windows is my main concern.
> 
> >
> > Thanks for the help.
> 
> You're welcome!
> 
> Matthias
> 
> >
> >> I have informed Infra
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >>
> >>    Matthias
> >>
> >> Am 30.05.21 um 22:11 schrieb Rory O'Farrell:
> >>> The automatic builds of 4.5.0, which used be updated every day or two, 
> >>> seem to have ceased.  The builds at
> >>>
> >>> https://ci.apache.org/projects/openoffice/install/linux64/
> >>>
> >>> have not been updated since 11th May.
> >
> 
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Correction:Re: Where can I get help with a complicated menu problem (API)?

2021-06-01 Thread Rory O'Farrell
On Tue, 1 Jun 2021 08:46:36 +0100
Rory O'Farrell  wrote:

> On Tue, 1 Jun 2021 09:12:05 +0200
> Jörg Schmidt  wrote:
> 
> > Hello,
> > 
> > Peter had asked me to write a small extension, which I did. For the 
> > meaningful operation of the extension it would be necessary to be able to 
> > set a check mark at a, self-defined, menu item.
> > The question is formulated here more exactly (and the short answer there 
> > does not help me unfortunately):
> > https://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=20=105315#p511270
> > 
> > 
> > Can someone help me?
> > 
> > My hope is that someone knows who used to work as a programmer at OOo/SUN 
> > with a focus on menus and can still be contacted today. 
> > 
> > 
> > greetings,
> > Jörg
> 
> This is not an immediate answer, but I note that the checkmark mechanism is 
> available in (inter alia) Writer, on the View menu, for selection of toolbars 
> and viewing of Text boundaries and Sidebar.  A quick search threw up this
> [url]https://www.openoffice.org/api/docs/common/ref/com/sun/star/mozilla/MenuMultipleChange.html[/url]
> 
> But I mention that I am an experienced programmer - my programming days were 
> 35 years ago in Z80 assembler, later in Pascal and Modula.


When I wrote "I am an experienced programmer" that was incorrect: it should 
have read "I am NOT an experienced programmer"! Apologies - I should read what 
I am typing!!

Rory

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Re: Where can I get help with a complicated menu problem (API)?

2021-06-01 Thread Rory O'Farrell
On Tue, 1 Jun 2021 09:12:05 +0200
Jörg Schmidt  wrote:

> Hello,
> 
> Peter had asked me to write a small extension, which I did. For the 
> meaningful operation of the extension it would be necessary to be able to set 
> a check mark at a, self-defined, menu item.
> The question is formulated here more exactly (and the short answer there does 
> not help me unfortunately):
> https://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=20=105315#p511270
> 
> 
> Can someone help me?
> 
> My hope is that someone knows who used to work as a programmer at OOo/SUN 
> with a focus on menus and can still be contacted today. 
> 
> 
> greetings,
> Jörg

This is not an immediate answer, but I note that the checkmark mechanism is 
available in (inter alia) Writer, on the View menu, for selection of toolbars 
and viewing of Text boundaries and Sidebar.  A quick search threw up this
[url]https://www.openoffice.org/api/docs/common/ref/com/sun/star/mozilla/MenuMultipleChange.html[/url]

But I mention that I am an experienced programmer - my programming days were 35 
years ago in Z80 assembler, later in Pascal and Modula.

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Re: AOo 4.5.0 builds

2021-06-01 Thread Rory O'Farrell
On Mon, 31 May 2021 18:41:24 -0400 (CDT)
Delio Orozco Gonzalez  wrote:

> Hello Matias: 
> 
> I donwloaded from  
> https://ci.apache.org/projects/openoffice/install/linux64/, the vertion for 
> spanish with the link: 
> Apache_OpenOffice_4.5.0_Linux_x86-64_install-deb_es_2021-05-11_04:13:41_b82be50fa0f1a4e9f27bc8d6c5da1904c31a998f.tar.gz
>   
> 
> And I can't install because when I unpack the file I get a error messages 
> with the compacted archive. I work with Debian 9.
> 
> Regards, Delio.

Have you tried a fresh download?

Rory


> 
> - Mensaje original -
> De: "Matthias Seidel" 
> Para: "dev" 
> Enviados: Domingo, 30 de Mayo 2021 16:42:13
> Asunto: Re: AOo 4.5.0 builds
> 
> Hi Rory,
> 
> Am 30.05.21 um 22:34 schrieb Rory O'Farrell:
> > On Sun, 30 May 2021 22:14:13 +0200
> > Matthias Seidel  wrote:
> >
> >> Hi Rory,
> >>
> >> This is for Linux only (450 and 42X), Windows builds are fine.
> > Having moved away from Windows some 12/13 years ago, I now live a very 
> > happy life!
> 
> I am on Linux for 8 years now, but 80% of our users are on Windows.
> 
> So Windows is my main concern.
> 
> >
> > Thanks for the help.
> 
> You're welcome!
> 
> Matthias
> 
> >
> >> I have informed Infra
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >>
> >>    Matthias
> >>
> >> Am 30.05.21 um 22:11 schrieb Rory O'Farrell:
> >>> The automatic builds of 4.5.0, which used be updated every day or two, 
> >>> seem to have ceased.  The builds at
> >>>
> >>> https://ci.apache.org/projects/openoffice/install/linux64/
> >>>
> >>> have not been updated since 11th May.
> >
> 
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Re: AOo 4.5.0 builds

2021-05-30 Thread Rory O'Farrell
On Sun, 30 May 2021 22:14:13 +0200
Matthias Seidel  wrote:

> Hi Rory,
> 
> This is for Linux only (450 and 42X), Windows builds are fine.

Having moved away from Windows some 12/13 years ago, I now live a very happy 
life!

Thanks for the help.

> 
> I have informed Infra
> 
> Regards,
> 
>    Matthias
> 
> Am 30.05.21 um 22:11 schrieb Rory O'Farrell:
> > The automatic builds of 4.5.0, which used be updated every day or two, seem 
> > to have ceased.  The builds at
> >
> > https://ci.apache.org/projects/openoffice/install/linux64/
> >
> > have not been updated since 11th May.
> 


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AOo 4.5.0 builds

2021-05-30 Thread Rory O'Farrell


The automatic builds of 4.5.0, which used be updated every day or two, seem to 
have ceased.  The builds at

https://ci.apache.org/projects/openoffice/install/linux64/

have not been updated since 11th May.
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Re: Log On info

2021-05-03 Thread Rory O'Farrell
On Mon, 3 May 2021 09:20:24 -0600
F Campos Costero  wrote:

> Thank you for downloading OpenOffice. OpenOffice runs locally on each
> computer and there is no account to log into. The first time you start the
> program, there is a registration process but that sets up a user profile
> for that machine. The user profile stores your document templates, menu
> customizations, macro scripts and other details that are specific to your
> preferred use of OpenOffice on that computer. You may store the files that
> you make on a remote drive so they can be easily accessed from many
> computers but each computer must have its own copy of OpenOffice.
> I hope that helps clarify the situation. If you need more help, it would be
> best to use the user forum (https://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/) or the
> user mailing list. This mailing list is for developers.
> Regards,
> Francis
> 
> On Mon, May 3, 2021 at 9:02 AM Frank Galler  wrote:
> 
> > Hi,
> > I have just downloaded the Open Office prog and it seems to be exactly what
> > I was looking for. Thank you.
> > I wish to have access to my account on another device.Will I need the
> > original details or did I need to enter passwords etc., .if I did, I
> > failed to keep details. What is the method of Log On using another device.
> > Thank you.
> >

It is important to know that OpenOffice keeps merely a list of the last ten 
files edited on that installation.  These are stored on the local computer, not 
remotely in the cloud; to be edited on one or other computer, the file(s) need 
to be physically transferred from one to the other.

It _is_ possible to use remote storage (the cloud); if you know about that and 
wish to do so, you probably know enough to sort it out yourself - I cannot help.

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Re: Introduction and online presence

2021-02-25 Thread Rory O'Farrell
On Thu, 25 Feb 2021 10:19:09 +0100
Jörg Schmidt  wrote:

>  
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Peter Kovacs [mailto:pe...@apache.org] 
> > Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2021 9:22 PM
> > To: dev@openoffice.apache.org; 2018001...@student.sit.ac.nz
> > Subject: Re: Introduction and online presence
> 
> > My main concern is that some people believe that AOO is not being developed 
> > or updated, clearly this is not the case. I would like to point some of the 
> > volunteers in marketing, user support/assistance and business management to 
> > engage in forums and online communities to show that AOO is still being 
> > developed. Specifically, I am referring to 
> > https://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/ and Reddit communities.
> Some people say that OpenOffice is dead for 10 years now. IMHO this 
> discussion is purely emotional. It is difficult to argue with them.
> 
> This dicussioin is NOT emotional, but Abbold of our insufficient public 
> relations.
> It is clear that you, as a PMC member, are trying to deny this, because the 
> PMC has for years been completely inadequate in its responsibility in this 
> regard and reacts attacked when it is criticized.
> 
> 
> >
> > It seems that the moderators of the forum point users with issues to use 
> > LO, recently to someone with a small issue such as installing the 
> > desktop-integration RPM component of AOO on Red Hat Linux.

I answer only this point: it is frequently the case that Forum moderators and 
Volunteers are faced with a problem from a user who is panicking about 
completing a project, and who, by deduction from their post, lacks computer 
skills. The quickest solution (and easiest for an inexperienced user) may be to 
direct them to another program, be it LO, or as is often the case, recommend 
that they revert to MS Office.  

Volunteers on Forum work, as do those developing, on a pro bono basis (for 
which all should be grateful); as time is precious to us all, Forum volunteers 
often take the quickest path to a solution.  It is not their role to educate in 
the workings of a computer or to lead an inexperienced user on a long step by 
step path to a possible solution.

Rory

> >
> > It also seems that MS might be dropping support for 32-bit programs, so 
> > perhaps a x64 edition of AOO?
> 
> > Microsoft 
> > stops the OEM 32 bit sale, but will provide support to existing 32bit 
> > installs. 
> 
> WHERE did you get this? Do you work for Microsoft? Or did you not understand 
> the statement of Dean at all?
> 
> 
> > And that does not include the 32bit support in 64 bit 
> > environment. So there is no risk to be feared. And if someone writes 
> > that it is not true. I recommend that he should wonder what happens to 
> > his steam collection, since most games are still 32 bit. ;)
> 
> Stop formulating personal attacks here, against the opinions of others!
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Jörg
> 
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Re: character set

2021-02-21 Thread Rory O'Farrell
On Sun, 21 Feb 2021 09:29:44 -0600
alane  wrote:

> A screen comes up asking for user name and then initials. The comes a screen 
> with character set and has western Europe highlighted, default fonts and 
> language. If I click ok on that screen the file opens with ##. 
> What character set would be the right one to open the file 
> 
> Sent from Mail for Windows 10

An OpenOffice file showing ### is utterly corrupt and there will be no usable 
information in it.  Use the information below to attempt to find a complete or 
partial copy, or revert to a backup copy.

The file may have been damaged possibly due to disconnection from the remote 
location because of connection failure before the file was fully transmitted, 
or over hasty power off of your computer or closure of laptop lid, before the 
file housekeeping had been transmitted

As soon as possible try the methods in this tutorial
https://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=71=85038for detailed 
instructions on how to

a) use Previous Versions (W7 and later) to recover previous versions of the 
file.

b) recover your file as it was when you last opened or saved it, or as it was 
when it was last saved with AutoRecovery;

c) find previous versions of the file in the folder it is located in, but which 
have since been deleted;

d) un-delete the temporary files AOO wrote while you were editing the file, and 
then deleted.  This may recover your file as it was when you last opened or you 
last saved it.
 

> 
> From: Jörg Schmidt
> Sent: Saturday, February 20, 2021 5:05 PM
> To: dev@openoffice.apache.org
> Subject: RE: character set
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Alane [mailto:alaneblachfordpe...@netzero.com] 
> > Sent: Saturday, February 20, 2021 3:09 PM
> > To: dev@openoffice.apache.org
> > Subject: character set
> > 
> > Every time this computer shuts down, I have to sign into open 
> > office again. When I did this morning, it comes to a screen 
> > with character set, language etc. Which character set do I 
> > choose for English letters in Illinois. It keeps coming up to 
> > Western European and that only opens up as , 
> > making the file useless. It will open the file from the 
> > recently used list, but if that disappears from the list, I 
> > am lost. Luckily I had a backup file and could recopy the 
> > file to its original form, a project I have spent most of the 
> > year working on. How can I solve this problem and not have to 
> > keep signing in. My other computer does not have this 
> > problem, but this one is easier to type on and I prefer using it.
> > Alane
> 
> I don't understand the question because it is not necessary to register with 
> OpenOffice, nor is there even the possibility to do so, because there is no 
> online registration or anything like that.
> 
> So please describe in more detail what it is specifically about.
> 
> 
> greetings,
> Jörg
> 
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Re: good daytime whenever you are

2021-02-05 Thread Rory O'Farrell
On Fri, 5 Feb 2021 16:52:32 +0600
Naturecheer Naturecheer  wrote:

> I mean if a saved open office file contains a literary work, can this file
> be protected with copyrights by an author of a file under his name?
> 

This is a legal question, and for best information should be posed to a lawyer 
experienced in copyright in the country of writing.

The simple answer is that copyright usually exists in all literary works, 
whether they are written on paper or using an editor, but the reservation of 
such rights may involve compliance with local laws concerned with copyright, 
such as lodgement of copy(s) with library(s) of record.

It is usual that a certain amount (approximately 10%, differing according to 
the circumstances and country) of any copyrighted work may be quoted in another 
article by way of "fair dealing", permitting scholarly analysis or refutation 
of assertions or other dealings.

But I am not a lawyer, so take my information above under advisement. 

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Re: Proposed change for download page

2021-01-04 Thread Rory O'Farrell
On Mon, 4 Jan 2021 12:35:07 +0100
Marcus  wrote:

> Am 03.01.21 um 21:28 schrieb Rory O'Farrell:
> > On Sun, 3 Jan 2021 21:24:06 +0100
> > Matthias Seidel  wrote:
> >> Am 03.01.21 um 20:07 schrieb Marcus:
> >>>
> >>> I've added a bit more magic:
> >>>
> >>> https://openoffice-org.staged.apache.org/download/index.html
> >>>
> >>> Now we can show a different text when Windows, Mac or Linux install
> >>> files are selected. It's a short title with more text as mouse-over.
> >>>
> >>> For Linux it's known. However, for Windows and Mac we need the info we
> >>> want to show the users.
> >>>
> >>> Suggestions?
> >>
> >> Thanks! That looks good!
> >>
> >> For Windows I would suggest as title:
> >>
> >> Additional notes for Windows!
> >>
> >> Text:
> >>
> >> At the moment we only offer a 32-bit (x86) version for Windows.
> >> However, this version installs and runs also on Windows 64-bit (x86-64).
> >> Please note that you may need JAVA in 32-bit for additional functionality.
> > 
> > Add: which must then be selected (one time only) in /Tools /Options 
> > /OpenOffice /Java
> > 
> >> Maybe the wording can be enhanced...
> 
> with some ideas and line breaks from me I've the following for the 
> moment (only locally, not yet on staging):
> 
> Title:
> "OpenOffice and Java - What to do?"
> 
> Text:
> "At the moment there is a 32-bit (x86) version for Windows. However, 
> this installs and runs also on Windows 64-bit (x86-64).
> Please note that you may need Java in 32-bit for additional 
> functionality which must then be selected once only (see menu 'Tools - 
> Options - OpenOffice - Java').
> 
> For more information about OpenOffice and Java please see the link on 
> the right 'Java and Apache OpenOffice' 
> (https://www.openoffice.org/download/common/java.html)."

Excellent! (if anyone reads it!  Nobody sees to look for or read instructions 
in the modern world.)


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Re: Proposed change for download page

2021-01-03 Thread Rory O'Farrell
On Sun, 3 Jan 2021 21:24:06 +0100
Matthias Seidel  wrote:

> Hi Marcus,
> 
> Am 03.01.21 um 20:07 schrieb Marcus:
> >
> > I've added a bit more magic:
> >
> > https://openoffice-org.staged.apache.org/download/index.html
> >
> > Now we can show a different text when Windows, Mac or Linux install
> > files are selected. It's a short title with more text as mouse-over.
> >
> > For Linux it's known. However, for Windows and Mac we need the info we
> > want to show the users.
> >
> > Suggestions?
> 
> Thanks! That looks good!
> 
> For Windows I would suggest as title:
> 
> Additional notes for Windows!
> 
> Text:
> 
> At the moment we only offer a 32-bit (x86) version for Windows.
> However, this version installs and runs also on Windows 64-bit (x86-64).
> Please note that you may need JAVA in 32-bit for additional functionality.

Add: which must then be selected (one time only) in /Tools /Options /OpenOffice 
/Java


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> 
> Maybe the wording can be enhanced...
> 
> Regards,
> 
>    Matthias
> 
> >
> > Thanks to all for helping.
> >
> > Marcus
> >
> 


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Re: Test of AOO-dev 4.19

2020-12-30 Thread Rory O'Farrell
On Wed, 30 Dec 2020 06:37:18 -0500
Jim Jagielski  wrote:

> Hmmm. Scanning both trunk and AOO419 for 'GailWindow', I'm not seeing any 
> code level diffs between the 2.
> 
> I wonder if it's related to this: 
> https://mail.gnome.org/archives/commits-list/2011-July/msg00596.html
> 
> > On Dec 30, 2020, at 5:43 AM, Rory O'Farrell  wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > Starting 4.19 in a terminal I get
> > 
> >> Gtk-Message: 10:33:16.929: Failed to load module "atk-bridge"
> > 
> >> ** (soffice:6909): WARNING **: 10:33:16.936: Unknown type: GailWindow
> > 
> > The Unknown type GailWindow has been around for quite some time.
> > 
> > I think the 'Failed to load module "atk-bridge"' is new; a similar error 
> > cropped up recently on en-Forum related to a Sigserv fault in connection 
> > with tables; that thread is
> > https://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7=103974#p503393
> > 
> > The references in that thread (rather acrimonious!) are summed up in this 
> > post
> > 
> > https://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7=103974=30#p503634
> > 
> > which is possibly all one will need to read
> > 
> > 
> > -- 
> > Rory O'Farrell 
> > 

Running the 4.5.0 dev version has also thrown up the GailWindow error. The 
analysis in the post I referenced above on Forum  (...p503634) indicates 
GailWindow to be in the Accessible GTK+ applications framework, as is the 
atk-bridge.

If the suggestion to which you refer (... msg00596) is relevant and eliminates 
need for ~500 lines of code then that would be a Good Thing!

(Off topic: A "Good Thing", in capital letters, is a normally reference to a 
comic history of England "1066 and All That", by WC Sellar and RJ Yeatman, 
[London 1930], which boiled all English history down into 103 Good Things, 5 
Bad Kings, and 2 Genuine Dates.  For people my age (now mid 70s), their 
division of history into Good Things and Bad Things greatly simplified the 
historical scene!)
 


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Re: Test of AOO-dev 4.19

2020-12-30 Thread Rory O'Farrell
On Wed, 30 Dec 2020 10:43:56 +
Rory O'Farrell  wrote:

> 
> Starting 4.19 in a terminal I get
> 
> >  Gtk-Message: 10:33:16.929: Failed to load module "atk-bridge"
> 
> >  ** (soffice:6909): WARNING **: 10:33:16.936: Unknown type: GailWindow
> 
> The Unknown type GailWindow has been around for quite some time.
> 
> I think the 'Failed to load module "atk-bridge"' is new; a similar error 
> cropped up recently on en-Forum related to a Sigserv fault in connection with 
> tables; that thread is
> https://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7=103974#p503393
> 
> The references in that thread (rather acrimonious!) are summed up in this post
> 
> https://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7=103974=30#p503634
> 
> which is possibly all one will need to read

I am sorry I omitted essential information - I am currently using Writer 
running on Xubuntu 64 bit 20.04.1, updated daily.

I am also receiving 'Unknown event notification 36' when I type "DT" then press 
F3 key to insert dummy text

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Test of AOO-dev 4.19

2020-12-30 Thread Rory O'Farrell


Starting 4.19 in a terminal I get

>  Gtk-Message: 10:33:16.929: Failed to load module "atk-bridge"

>  ** (soffice:6909): WARNING **: 10:33:16.936: Unknown type: GailWindow

The Unknown type GailWindow has been around for quite some time.

I think the 'Failed to load module "atk-bridge"' is new; a similar error 
cropped up recently on en-Forum related to a Sigserv fault in connection with 
tables; that thread is
https://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7=103974#p503393

The references in that thread (rather acrimonious!) are summed up in this post

https://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7=103974=30#p503634

which is possibly all one will need to read


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Re: Language subsets

2020-12-29 Thread Rory O'Farrell
On Tue, 29 Dec 2020 17:02:34 -0500
Jim Jagielski  wrote:

> I've uploaded macOS, Linux32 and Linux64 bit Dev test builds to:
> 
> http://home.apache.org/~jim/AOO-builds/
> 

I have downloaded and will install for routine work tomorrow the 64 bit en-US 
deb version - my work will be mostly Writer, some very simple Calc, and some 
revision and updating of Impress presentations, none of which are "mission 
critical"; if any failure I have a backup regime in place.


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Re: Proposed change for download page

2020-12-29 Thread Rory O'Farrell
On Tue, 29 Dec 2020 18:31:23 +0100
Peter Kovacs  wrote:

> 
> On 29.12.20 18:25, Dave Fisher wrote:
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> >> On Dec 29, 2020, at 8:39 AM, Jörg Schmidt  wrote:
> >>
> >> 
> >>
> >>> -Original Message-
> >>> From: Bidouille [mailto:ooofo...@free.fr]
> >>> Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2020 3:02 PM
> >>> To: dev@openoffice.apache.org
> >>> Subject: Re: Proposed change for download page
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> Personally, I don't see the need until we have a real x64 version.
> >>> +1
> >> Don't you care if users can't find their way around and therefore stop 
> >> using AOO?
> >>
> >> That was exactly the result of the thread that prompted me to suggest a 
> >> small correction on the download page.
> >>
> >> The thread is unfortunately in German, but here is the link:
> >> http://de.openoffice.info/viewtopic.php?p=293070#p293070
> > You should have started your discussion with this context.
> >
> > It is better to discuss the actual problem which is that Windows users of 
> > AOO don’t know that they require a 32 bit Java than it is to suggest a 
> > minor fix to the download page.
> Java 32 bit is part of the release notes.

Which, experience on en-Forum indicates, no average user ever reads!

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> > Thanks,
> > Dave
> >
> >>
> >> Jörg
> >>
> >>
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Re: [openoffice] branch AOO419 updated: Force SDK 10.11 at most Pass NULL, not -1 (!!)

2020-12-26 Thread Rory O'Farrell
On Sat, 26 Dec 2020 21:43:06 +0100
Matthias Seidel  wrote:

> Hi Jim,
> 
> Am 26.12.20 um 20:45 schrieb Jim Jagielski:
> > So there is for sure a bug in AOO41X, but why it only seems to affect macOS 
> > BigSur is
> > unknown. It is this:
> >
> >> diff --git a/main/bridges/source/cpp_uno/shared/vtablefactory.cxx 
> >> b/main/bridges/source/cpp_uno/shared/vtablefactory.cxx
> >> index f4d6c56..2ca9b8f 100644
> >> --- a/main/bridges/source/cpp_uno/shared/vtablefactory.cxx
> >> +++ b/main/bridges/source/cpp_uno/shared/vtablefactory.cxx
> >> @@ -195,7 +195,7 @@ VtableFactory::VtableFactory(): m_arena(
> >> rtl_arena_create(
> >> "bridges::cpp_uno::shared::VtableFactory",
> >> sizeof (void *), // to satisfy alignment requirements
> >> -0, reinterpret_cast< rtl_arena_type * >(-1), allocExec, freeExec, 
> >> 0))
> >> +0, reinterpret_cast< rtl_arena_type * >(0), allocExec, freeExec, 
> >> 0))
> >> {
> >> if (m_arena == 0) {
> >> throw std::bad_alloc();
> > I *think* this solves the issue, and a quick-and-dirty compilation seems to 
> > indicate that, but
> > I will double check.
> >
> > The question is: Does this warrant a full 4.1.9 release for ALL platforms? 
> > To my mind, it does.
> 
> I will start a test build on Windows right now...
> 
> We have a small Linux issue as well [1] and we can still put some minor
> cherry-picks into this build.
> 
> +1 for a 4.1.9
> 
> Regards,
> 
>    Matthias
> 
> [1] https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=128413

I think all platforms should maintain the same version numbering.  

There are occasional but frequent reports on Forum of problems with tables in 
Writer causing crashes when they are extended to cover multiple pages; my usual 
advice is to limit tables to one page, and repeat the structure if needed on 
subsequent pages.  This seems to work; I cannot comment from personal 
experience as my routine work does not involve Writer tables.  If this proposed 
fix involves tables it may have cross-talk into the Windows and other platforms.

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Re: Reporting broken download link

2020-12-16 Thread Rory O'Farrell
On Wed, 16 Dec 2020 20:21:41 +0100
Marcus  wrote:

> Am 16.12.20 um 20:12 schrieb Rory O'Farrell:
> > On Wed, 16 Dec 2020 19:58:42 +0100
> > Marcus  wrote:
> > 
> >> Am 13.12.20 um 19:51 schrieb Marcus:
> >>> Am 12.12.20 um 17:57 schrieb Volker Höhfeld:
> >>>
> >>> before sending an answer to the author:
> >>>
> >>>> der Computer sagt nach dem herungerladen,
> >>>>
> >>>> Aphe_OpenOffice_4 Image nicht anerkannt.
> >>>
> >>> In English:
> >>> "
> >>> After the download the computer says,
> >>> Aphe_OpenOffice_4 Image not found
> >>> "
> >>>
> >>> I've no clue about Mac but is this an indication for the Gatekeeper
> >>> problem that is mentioned in the release notes? Or is it actually a
> >>> different problem?
> >>
> >> please, can someone with Mac experience tell whats the probleme here?
> >>
> >> Thanks
> >>
> >> Marcus
> > 
> > I don't have a Mac, but my last information is that Gatekeeper tells that 
> > it is unable to identify the author supplier and hence cannot install the 
> > application, which seems a different message to that quoted.
> 
> so, it could be the Gatekeeper problem and the hint in the release notes 
> could help, right?
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Marcus
> 
It is worth trying.  The solution to Gatekeeper is Question 05/Answer 05 in 
this set of Mac problems:
https://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?t=89283#p420635

Rory
> 
> 
> >>>> *Problembeschreibung* *Ersetze diesen Text und beschreibe das Problem
> >>>>
> >>>> (Was funktioniert nicht? Was wird erwartet?)*
> >>>> *Browser Variablen* *Werte*
> >>>> navigator.appCodeName Mozilla
> >>>> navigator.appName Netscape
> >>>> navigator.appVersion 5.0 (Macintosh)
> >>>> navigator.platform MacIntel
> >>>> navigator.oscpu Intel Mac OS X 10.16
> >>>> navigator.cpuClass undefined
> >>>> navigator.product Gecko
> >>>> navigator.productSub 20100101
> >>>> navigator.vendor
> >>>> navigator.vendorSub
> >>>> navigator.language de
> >>>> navigator.browserLanguage undefined
> >>>> navigator.userLanguage undefined
> >>>> navigator.systemLanguage undefined
> >>>> navigator.userAgent Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.16;
> >>>> rv:83.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/83.0
> >>>> [...]
> 
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Re: Reporting broken download link

2020-12-16 Thread Rory O'Farrell
On Wed, 16 Dec 2020 19:58:42 +0100
Marcus  wrote:

> Am 13.12.20 um 19:51 schrieb Marcus:
> > Am 12.12.20 um 17:57 schrieb Volker Höhfeld:
> > 
> > before sending an answer to the author:
> > 
> >> der Computer sagt nach dem herungerladen,
> >>
> >> Aphe_OpenOffice_4 Image nicht anerkannt.
> > 
> > In English:
> > "
> > After the download the computer says,
> > Aphe_OpenOffice_4 Image not found
> > "
> > 
> > I've no clue about Mac but is this an indication for the Gatekeeper 
> > problem that is mentioned in the release notes? Or is it actually a 
> > different problem?
> 
> please, can someone with Mac experience tell whats the probleme here?
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Marcus

I don't have a Mac, but my last information is that Gatekeeper tells that it is 
unable to identify the author supplier and hence cannot install the 
application, which seems a different message to that quoted.

Rory 

> >> *Problembeschreibung* *Ersetze diesen Text und beschreibe das Problem
> >>
> >> (Was funktioniert nicht? Was wird erwartet?)*
> >> *Browser Variablen* *Werte*
> >> navigator.appCodeName Mozilla
> >> navigator.appName Netscape
> >> navigator.appVersion 5.0 (Macintosh)
> >> navigator.platform MacIntel
> >> navigator.oscpu Intel Mac OS X 10.16
> >> navigator.cpuClass undefined
> >> navigator.product Gecko
> >> navigator.productSub 20100101
> >> navigator.vendor
> >> navigator.vendorSub
> >> navigator.language de
> >> navigator.browserLanguage undefined
> >> navigator.userLanguage undefined
> >> navigator.systemLanguage undefined
> >> navigator.userAgent Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.16;
> >> rv:83.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/83.0
> >> [...]
> 
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Re: Broken_Link: "https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/DevGuide/Basic/Accessing_Libraries_from_Basic"-rm201208-

2020-12-11 Thread Rory O'Farrell
On Fri, 11 Dec 2020 12:30:37 -0800
Dave Fisher  wrote:

> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> > On Dec 11, 2020, at 11:46 AM, Dick Groskamp  wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >> On 2020/12/11 19:34:47, Matthias Seidel  
> >> wrote: 
> >> Hi Dick,
> >> 
> >>> Am 11.12.20 um 20:29 schrieb Dick Groskamp:
> >>> 
> >>> On 2020/12/11 17:23:20, Matthias Seidel  
> >>> wrote: 
> >>>> Hi Dick,
> >>>> 
> >>>> Am 11.12.20 um 17:14 schrieb Dick Groskamp:
> >>>> 
> >>>> The extension is not broken, it is outdated. It cannot be updated
> >>>> because that would need a newer version of Wiki.
> >>>> However, our AOO skin for the Wiki must be adapted to the newer Wiki
> >>>> version...
> >>>> 
> >>>> At least that is what I understood from Andrea's posts regarding the
> >>>> Wiki server in 2019 [1]
> >>>> 
> >>> Well, if it is outdated and it doesn't do its job, I think it is broken.
> >>> What I meant to say is that it doesn't work the way it was designed 
> >>> anymore.
> >>>> See above, the extension is not ours. It is from mediaWiki.org (?)
> >>>> 
> >>> Well, I think it is ours. It was especially created by former developers 
> >>> for this purpose and it is probably nowhere else available/usable and 
> >>> just works on our wiki.
> >> 
> >> Who would that developer be?! Do you know a name?
> > 
> > It was somewhere up in this thread:
> > // Extension credits that will show up on Special:Version
> > $wgExtensionCredits['parserhook'][] = array(
> > 'name' => 'IDL Tags',
> > 'version' => '1.0.2',
> > 'author' => array( 'Clayton Cornell', 'Terry Ellison' ),
> 
> This clearly an OOo extension.
> 
> Clayton didn’t really join AOO and Terry did the Forum move but seemed to get 
> frustrated and left.


Terry had health problems and, as far as I remember, changed residence to 
Greece about 2010; he has not logged onto en-Forum since Aug 2017.  I have no 
information as to his well-being.

Rory


> 
> I think that the approach could be separate from Carl’s new Wiki VM effort.
> 
> Someone will need to look at the current VM and try your idea about changing 
> the function.
> 
> If Andrea can’t then I’ll have a look early next week.
> 
> Regards,
> Dave
> 
> > 'description' => 'Manage the IDL links in the OOo Dev Guide ',
> > 'url' => 
> > 'http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Wiki_maintenance/IDLTagExtension',
> > );
> >> 
> >> Isn't it more likely that it is a mediawiki extension like:
> >> 
> >> https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:SyntaxHighlight
> >> 
> > That is probably where the confusion comes from. You can develop your own 
> > extensions if you want, just like our own .oxt's. The whole IDLTags 
> > extension is the PHP-page Carl copied from the configuration. That's all
> >>> 
> >>> I haven't read Andrea's post yet, I focused more on getting this 
> >>> defective extension IDLTags repaired.
> >> 
> >> Well, that would be a workaround for the moment, but we should "simply"
> >> fix the source of the problem...
> >> 
> > With "source of the problem" I assume you mean upgrading the wiki version 
> > and updating the skin
> > etc as mentioned in Andrea's post
> > 
> > As far as I know has Carl a new updated VM  available to go along with 
> > that, but he has a tiny
> > problem getting access. I think that will be the next step.
> > 
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Re: [discussion] future embedded DB in AOO

2020-12-08 Thread Rory O'Farrell
On Tue, 8 Dec 2020 14:26:45 +0100
Matthias Seidel  wrote:

> Hi Mechtilde,
> 
> Am 08.12.20 um 14:07 schrieb Mechtilde:
> > Hello Jörg,
> >
> > Am 08.12.20 um 11:29 schrieb Jörg Schmidt:
> >>  
> >>
> >>> -Original Message-
> >>> From: Mechtilde [mailto:o...@mechtilde.de] 
> >>> Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2020 10:34 AM
> >>> To: dev@openoffice.apache.org
> >>> Subject: Re: [discussion] future embedded DB in AOO
> >>>> As far as I know from Mathias Java is, in the long run, a 
> >>> problem because of the licensing policy of Oracle(*) and we 
> >>> have to find ways to free ourselves from this dependency.
> >>>
> >>> This isn't a problem anymore, because we can use Adopt 
> >>> OpenJDK, which is
> >>> used in the linux distributions since long time.
> >> I know that OpenJDK can be used as an alternative in Linux, but what is 
> >> the situation in Windows? I have no experience with OpenJDK in Windows. 
> >>
> > this is also available for Windows
> 
> Indeed, all my Windows test build are done with AdoptOpenJDK for quite
> some time now and we officially support AdoptOpenJDK (on every platform)
> since AOO 4.1.7 [1]
> 
> Regards,
> 
>    Matthias
> 
> [1]
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.1.7+Release+Notes#AOO4.1.7ReleaseNotes-Improvements/Enhancements
> 
> >
> >> Jörg
> >
> 

Have used AdoptOpenJDK on Xubuntu towards end of 18:04 and since launch of 
20:04 on several computers with no problem.

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Re: Loss of OpenOffice

2020-12-04 Thread Rory O'Farrell
On Fri, 4 Dec 2020 16:43:03 +
Tony  wrote:

> Hello, I wonder if you can help me. I have recently had my OpenOffice locked 
> and have been advised to contact yourselves.
> 
> Could you please point me in the right direction.
> 
> Regards
> 
> 
> A J Weil

How is it locked?  What error messages do you get. What happens?  What is your 
operating system

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Re: Boring issue: Opening ODF document from LibreOffice 7 displays error

2020-11-15 Thread Rory O'Farrell
On Sun, 15 Nov 2020 14:37:49 +0100
Andrea Pescetti  wrote:

> Matthias Seidel wrote:
> > Implementing it in AOO takes time, so we should concentrate on making
> > the "error" message more logical.
> 
> Now:
> This document was created by a newer version of OpenOffice. It may 
> contain features not supported by your current version.
> 
> Suggested:
> This document uses an unsupported version of the Open Document Format. 
> Some features may not be displayed correctly.
> 
> Samples are available at 
> https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=128412 for those who need 
> them. Of course, we will need two different issues, one for the error 
> message (relatively quick fix) and one for the ODF 1.3 support (much 
> larger work).
> 
> Regards,
>Andrea.

I have been looking, and cannot find a document summarising the changes between 
ODF v1.2 and v1.3; does such a document exist? I have the full v1.3 
specification, but would like a summary of the changes.

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Re: Boring issue: Opening ODF document from LibreOffice 7 displays error

2020-11-15 Thread Rory O'Farrell
On Sun, 15 Nov 2020 13:09:57 +0100 (CET)
Bidouille  wrote:

> Hello Matthias,
> 
> I don't know if this ODF 1.3 will be available soon.
> I don't find any release plan on OASIS.


For information: the listings for v1.3 are at
https://docs.oasis-open.org/office/OpenDocument/v1.3/


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> 
> - Mail original -
> > De: "Matthias Seidel" 
> > À: dev@openoffice.apache.org
> > Envoyé: Dimanche 15 Novembre 2020 12:49:27
> > Objet: Re: Boring issue: Opening ODF document from LibreOffice 7 displays 
> > error
> > 
> > Hi Bidouille,
> > 
> > Am 08.11.20 um 17:25 schrieb Bidouille:
> > > Hello dev team,
> > >
> > >
> > > https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=128412
> > >
> > > LibreOffice 7 use ODF 1.3 (experimental) for its documents.
> > > Unable to open it without an error.
> > > This is a painful for end-users.
> > 
> > Yes, that is something we must address somehow.
> > 
> > What is your proposal?
> > 
> > Regards,
> > 
> >    Matthias
> > 
> > >
> > >
> > > :-/
> > >
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Re: [ANNOUNCE] Apache OpenOffice 4.1.8 released

2020-11-11 Thread Rory O'Farrell


Previous release took about 24 hours to propagate to all the servers worldwide.

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Re: AOO418-RC2: General Error on opening files on Ubuntu

2020-10-21 Thread Rory O'Farrell
On Wed, 21 Oct 2020 10:39:57 -0400
Jim Jagielski  wrote:

> As I've said, the build system has not changed a whit between 4.1.7 and now, 
> so there is something with the various changes causing these issues. One way 
> of tracking this down is finding out when the last version of 4.1.8-dev 
> worked. The problem is that as long as the builds I provide crash, then we 
> cannot release the Linux 32/64 bit community builds, at least not without 
> changing the build system, which is something we should NOT do between patch 
> versions.
> 
> I may have to start playing around w/ git bisect or, at least, rebuild 4.1.7 
> and ensure that something didn't sneak into the build environ.

Might there be some crosstalk with another application?  Java is the obvious 
first suspect.

Rory


> 
> > On Oct 21, 2020, at 10:01 AM, Pedro Lino  
> > wrote:
> > 
> > Hi again
> > 
> >> On 10/21/2020 2:51 PM Jim Jagielski  >> <mailto:j...@jagunet.com>> wrote:
> >> 
> >> 
> >> Is it just ubuntu we are having these issues with? What was the last 
> >> 4.1.8-dev version that worked OK?
> > 
> > In case my message was not clear: the build I compiled today in Ubuntu 
> > 18.04.5 x64 works perfectly.
> > 
> > If your question is if the error messages that popup when using  your 
> > builds only show up on Ubuntu, then I can not answer. I don't use other 
> > distros.
> > 
> > Regards,
> > Pedro
> > 
> > 
> >>> On Oct 21, 2020, at 9:41 AM, Pedro Lino  wrote:
> >>> 
> >>> Hi Jim
> >>> 
> >>> I'm afraid not...
> >>> 
> >>> FYI I just finished compiling under Ubuntu 18.04.5 x64 using
> >>> 
> >>> ./configure --with-build-version="$(date +"%Y-%m-%d %H:%M") - `uname 
> >>> -sm`" 
> >>> --with-dmake-url=https://sourceforge.net/projects/oooextras.mirror/files/dmake-4.12.tar.bz2
> >>>  
> >>> --with-epm-url=https://sourceforge.net/projects/oooextras.mirror/files/epm-3.7.tar.gz
> >>>  --enable-opengl --disable-odk --enable-category-b 
> >>> --enable-bundled-dictionaries
> >>> 
> >>> and everything works as expected with no error messages.
> >>> 
> >>> Regards,
> >>> Pedro
> >>> 
> >>>> On 10/21/2020 1:28 PM Jim Jagielski  wrote:
> >>>> 
> >>>> 
> >>>> Here is hoping 4th time is the charm...
> >>>> 
> >>>>   http://home.apache.org/~jim/AOO-builds/
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Re: Writer and .docx

2020-10-17 Thread Rory O'Farrell
On Sat, 17 Oct 2020 10:05:45 +0200
Damjan Jovanovic  wrote:

> On Fri, Oct 16, 2020 at 11:50 AM Bidouille  wrote:
> 
> > > OpenOffice users can open documents in .docx format, but they cannot
> > > save in that format.
> > Well, remember that last version of Microsoft Office (since 2016) can open
> > ODT format.
> >
> >
> Unfortunately not all MS Office editions have ODT support, and many people
> I sent ODT to complained they can't open it.

Many MS Office users expect their File Associations to be set to allow them 
double click on a file to open it.  Few of them know the longer way.

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Re: AOO418-RC2: General Error on opening files on Ubuntu

2020-10-14 Thread Rory O'Farrell
On Wed, 14 Oct 2020 20:13:08 +0200
Matthias Seidel  wrote:

> Hi Rory,
> 
> Am 14.10.20 um 19:24 schrieb Rory O'Farrell:
> > On Wed, 14 Oct 2020 19:06:47 +0200
> > Matthias Seidel  wrote:
> >
> >> Am 14.10.20 um 18:48 schrieb Jim Jagielski:
> >>> None of these are different from how we have built the other 4.1.x Linux 
> >>> builds, so I am curious why 4.1.8 breaks but 4.1.7 and older didn't.
> >> We did a *lot* of backporting... And the same problem occurred in trunk
> >> some time ago.
> > I installed 4.1.8 RC2 just now downloaded from Andrea's link, running it on 
> > Xubuntu 20.04.1, just now updated; it opened an .odt, an .ods and an .odp 
> > file without problems.  When /i/ open from a terminal I get the following 
> > message
> > "SLF4J: Failed to load class "org.slf4j.impl.StaticLoggerBinder".
> > SLF4J: Defaulting to no-operation (NOP) logger implementation
> > SLF4J: See http://www.slf4j.org/codes.html#StaticLoggerBinder for further 
> > details."
> Thanks for the link. This is hopefully useful to remove that message.
> >
> > which I also get using the daily build of AOO 4.5.0 from buildbot.  This 
> > error doesn't seem to affect anything.  My usage is simple 12 sheet Calc 
> > using only simple arithmetic, heavy use of Writer (plain book formatting on 
> > large text files, occasional booklets with coloured illustrations, and 
> > Impress files, mostly of illustrations.  For what its worth, I;m using 
> > OpenJDK-11
> 
> So, with the buildbot builds you can open ODT without "General Error"?
> 
> Sorry, I haven't tested recently...
> 
> Regards,
> 
>    Matthias


Yes no problems with the buildbot 4.5.0 versions, apart from the quoted message 
when OO is started in terminal, which doesn't seem to cause any problems. I use 
buildbot 4.5.0 version for daily work.

Rory


> 
> >
> > Rory  
> >
> >>>> On Oct 13, 2020, at 2:48 PM, Matthias Seidel 
> >>>>  wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Hi Jim,
> >>>>
> >>>> Do you see a chance that this can be corrected by build options?
> >>>>
> >>>> Or do we need RC3?
> >>>>
> >>>> Regards,
> >>>>
> >>>>Matthias
> >>>>
> >>>> Am 12.10.20 um 22:05 schrieb Jim Jagielski:
> >>>>> Diffs which seem important (mine are the '-'):
> >>>>>
> >>>>> -ENABLE_CRASHDUMP='TRUE'
> >>>>> +ENABLE_CRASHDUMP=''
> >>>>>
> >>>>> -ENABLE_DBUS='TRUE'
> >>>>> +ENABLE_DBUS=''
> >>>>>
> >>>>> -SYSTEM_SERVLETAPI='NO'
> >>>>> +SYSTEM_SERVLETAPI=''
> >>>>>
> >>>>> -SYSTEM_STDLIBS='YES'
> >>>>> +SYSTEM_STDLIBS='NO'
> >>>>>
> >>>>> -ENABLE_GSTREAMER='TRUE'
> >>>>> +ENABLE_GSTREAMER=''
> >>>>>
> >>>>> -ENABLE_MEDIAWIKI='YES'
> >>>>> +ENABLE_MEDIAWIKI='NO'
> >>>>>
> >>>>> -ENABLE_OPENGL='TRUE'
> >>>>> +ENABLE_OPENGL=''
> >>>>>
> >>>>> -JAVAFLAGS=''
> >>>>> +JAVAFLAGS='-source 1.5 -target 1.5'
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Community builds include: --with-system-stdlibs --enable-crashdump=yes 
> >>>>> --enable-wiki-publisher --enable-opengl --enable-dbus 
> >>>>> --enable-gstreamer --without-junit
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> On Oct 12, 2020, at 1:50 PM, Andrea Pescetti  
> >>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Jim Jagielski wrote:
> >>>>>>> Can you provide a copy of the config.log file?
> >>>>>> Sure, uploaded at
> >>>>>> http://people.apache.org/~pescetti/openoffice-4.1.8-rc2/
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Just a remark about those builds: those are not release builds, I just 
> >>>>>> build with flags that are good for me in general. All details in the 
> >>>>>> log file.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Regards,
> >>>>>> Andrea.
> >>>>>>
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Re: AOO418-RC2: General Error on opening files on Ubuntu

2020-10-14 Thread Rory O'Farrell
On Wed, 14 Oct 2020 19:06:47 +0200
Matthias Seidel  wrote:

> Am 14.10.20 um 18:48 schrieb Jim Jagielski:
> > None of these are different from how we have built the other 4.1.x Linux 
> > builds, so I am curious why 4.1.8 breaks but 4.1.7 and older didn't.
> 
> We did a *lot* of backporting... And the same problem occurred in trunk
> some time ago.

I installed 4.1.8 RC2 just now downloaded from Andrea's link, running it on 
Xubuntu 20.04.1, just now updated; it opened an .odt, an .ods and an .odp file 
without problems.  When /i/ open from a terminal I get the following message
"SLF4J: Failed to load class "org.slf4j.impl.StaticLoggerBinder".
SLF4J: Defaulting to no-operation (NOP) logger implementation
SLF4J: See http://www.slf4j.org/codes.html#StaticLoggerBinder for further 
details."

which I also get using the daily build of AOO 4.5.0 from buildbot.  This error 
doesn't seem to affect anything.  My usage is simple 12 sheet Calc using only 
simple arithmetic, heavy use of Writer (plain book formatting on large text 
files, occasional booklets with coloured illustrations, and Impress files, 
mostly of illustrations.  For what its worth, I;m using OpenJDK-11

Rory  

> 
> >
> >> On Oct 13, 2020, at 2:48 PM, Matthias Seidel  
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi Jim,
> >>
> >> Do you see a chance that this can be corrected by build options?
> >>
> >> Or do we need RC3?
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >>
> >>Matthias
> >>
> >> Am 12.10.20 um 22:05 schrieb Jim Jagielski:
> >>> Diffs which seem important (mine are the '-'):
> >>>
> >>> -ENABLE_CRASHDUMP='TRUE'
> >>> +ENABLE_CRASHDUMP=''
> >>>
> >>> -ENABLE_DBUS='TRUE'
> >>> +ENABLE_DBUS=''
> >>>
> >>> -SYSTEM_SERVLETAPI='NO'
> >>> +SYSTEM_SERVLETAPI=''
> >>>
> >>> -SYSTEM_STDLIBS='YES'
> >>> +SYSTEM_STDLIBS='NO'
> >>>
> >>> -ENABLE_GSTREAMER='TRUE'
> >>> +ENABLE_GSTREAMER=''
> >>>
> >>> -ENABLE_MEDIAWIKI='YES'
> >>> +ENABLE_MEDIAWIKI='NO'
> >>>
> >>> -ENABLE_OPENGL='TRUE'
> >>> +ENABLE_OPENGL=''
> >>>
> >>> -JAVAFLAGS=''
> >>> +JAVAFLAGS='-source 1.5 -target 1.5'
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Community builds include: --with-system-stdlibs --enable-crashdump=yes 
> >>> --enable-wiki-publisher --enable-opengl --enable-dbus --enable-gstreamer 
> >>> --without-junit
> >>>
> >>>> On Oct 12, 2020, at 1:50 PM, Andrea Pescetti  wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Jim Jagielski wrote:
> >>>>> Can you provide a copy of the config.log file?
> >>>> Sure, uploaded at
> >>>> http://people.apache.org/~pescetti/openoffice-4.1.8-rc2/
> >>>>
> >>>> Just a remark about those builds: those are not release builds, I just 
> >>>> build with flags that are good for me in general. All details in the log 
> >>>> file.
> >>>>
> >>>> Regards,
> >>>> Andrea.
> >>>>
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Re: New extension to publish

2020-09-26 Thread Rory O'Farrell
On Sat, 26 Sep 2020 16:09:08 +0200 (CEST)
Bidouille  wrote:

> Windows use FilePicker and Linux OfficeFilePicker service
> I investigate 
> 
> - Mail original -
> > De: "Matthias Seidel" 
> > À: dev@openoffice.apache.org
> > Envoyé: Samedi 26 Septembre 2020 16:05:36
> > Objet: Re: New extension to publish
> > 
> > Hi,
> > 
> > Am 26.09.20 um 15:46 schrieb Bidouille:
> > >
> > > I try to upload OXT again but it don't work.
> > > Therefore, I had to host the file on my own site.
> > 
> > Thanks!
> > 
> > I don't know what happened here. ;-)
> > Several extensions were updated recently without problem...
> > 
> > However, when I insert a picture as comment, I get a runtime error
> > pointing to:
> > 
> > sFic = convertToURL(oFic.SelectedFiles(0))
> > 
> > This is on Ubuntu 16.04.
> > 
> > It works on Windows if you use Windows dialogs, if you switch to
> > OpenOffice dialogs it throws the same runtime error.
> > 
> > Regards,
> > 
> >    Matthias

Using Xubuntu 20.04.1 I get a similar error on that line.  The code sequence is

If oFic.execute = com.sun.star.ui.dialogs.ExecutableDialogResults.OK 
Then
   sFic = convertToURL(oFic.SelectedFiles(0))
Else
exit sub
End if

Rory


> > 
> > >
> > > - Mail original -
> > >> De: "Matthias Seidel" 
> > >> À: dev@openoffice.apache.org
> > >> Envoyé: Vendredi 25 Septembre 2020 19:14:11
> > >> Objet: Re: New extension to publish
> > >>
> > >> The author doesn't seem to be interested in uploading his
> > >> extension?
> > >>
> > >> Regards,
> > >>
> > >>    Matthias
> > >>
> > >> Am 23.09.20 um 18:42 schrieb Matthias Seidel:
> > >>> Hi,
> > >>>
> > >>> Am 23.09.20 um 11:32 schrieb Rory O'Farrell:
> > >>>> On Tue, 22 Sep 2020 17:07:32 +0200
> > >>>> Matthias Seidel  wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> Hi,
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Am 22.09.20 um 16:57 schrieb Bidouille:
> > >>>>>> Hello team,
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> An admin could be publish my new extension?
> > >>>>>> https://extensions.openoffice.org/en/project/set-picture-comment
> > >>>>> Done!
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Regards,
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>    Matthias
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>> Thanks
> > >>>> Several users on en-Forum are getting this message on attempted
> > >>>> download
> > >>>>
> > >>>> 'The "/19001/0/piccom.oxt" file could not be found or is not
> > >>>> available.  Please select another file.'
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Does the file need extra permissions?
> > >>> No.
> > >>>
> > >>> I could download from that location yesterday. Today it points to
> > >>> /19002/...
> > >>> Both directories are non-existent now.
> > >>>
> > >>> I don't know what happened in between, my suggestion would be to
> > >>> upload
> > >>> the extension again.
> > >>>
> > >>> Regards,
> > >>>
> > >>>    Matthias
> > >>>
> > >>>> Rory
> > >>
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Re: Broken wiki pages

2020-09-24 Thread Rory O'Farrell
On Thu, 24 Sep 2020 13:33:34 -0400
Anonymous  wrote:

> This wiki page, for instance, is broken:
> https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/DevGuide/OfficeDev/Framework_API

Available at
[url]https://web.archive.org/web/20131010133600/https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/DevGuide/OfficeDev/Framework_API[/url]


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Re: New extension to publish

2020-09-23 Thread Rory O'Farrell
On Tue, 22 Sep 2020 17:07:32 +0200
Matthias Seidel  wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> Am 22.09.20 um 16:57 schrieb Bidouille:
> > Hello team,
> >
> > An admin could be publish my new extension?
> > https://extensions.openoffice.org/en/project/set-picture-comment
> 
> Done!
> 
> Regards,
> 
>    Matthias
> 
> >
> > Thanks

Several users on en-Forum are getting this message on attempted download 

'The "/19001/0/piccom.oxt" file could not be found or is not available.  Please 
select another file.'

Does the file need extra permissions?

Rory
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Re: Updated intro logo [was Re: Proposals]

2020-09-12 Thread Rory O'Farrell
On Sat, 12 Sep 2020 19:17:18 +0200
Czesław Wolański  wrote:

> Hi Brian, all
> 
> > Don't be embarrassed; here's a fun fact:
> > you are in good company.
> 
> Thank you for pointing out this mistake.
> I can only speak for myself - I am grateful and not embarrassed at all.
> My mother tongue (L1 - Polish) makes me wonder if I'll ever understand it,
> let alone foreign languages I happen to "speak".
> 
> Just out of curiosity (I am not the cat...):
> Wording "Since 20 years" is simply not English, unless it refers to a point
> in time code-named "20 years"
> True or False?  ;‑)

One could say "Since twenty years have elapsed, we might reasonably presume XYZ 
is dead" or "As twenty years have elapsed, we might reasonably presume XYZ is 
dead"

"I have not taken a photograph since I hung up my cameras thirty years ago."

Rory


> Regards,
> 
> Czesław
> 
> 
> сб, 12 сент. 2020 г. в 18:29, Brian Barker
> :
> 
> > At 13:33 12/09/2020 +0200, Czeslaw Wolanski  wrote:
> > >Due file is available at the following link:
> > >
> > https://drive.google.com/file/d/1C8WAM7z5MEoW9VnLtwXBfqYGoPSTtbPN/view?usp=sharing
> > >
> > >COMMENT
> > >... there should be a way to gently move the
> > >focus from the otherwise important "Apache /
> > >Open Office" to Jörg's sound suggestion: "Open. For all. Since 20 years"
> >
> > Sorry, but as has already been pointed out,
> > "since 20 years" is simply not English. "Since"
> > requires a point in time, not a period of time.
> > So you can say "since 2000" or "since twenty
> > years *ago*", but not "since 20 years". For a
> > period of time, idiomatic English definitely requires "for": "for 20
> > years".
> >
> > Don't be embarrassed; here's a fun fact: you are
> > in good company. The lyricist of the Swedish pop
> > group ABBA (Björn Ulvaeus?) is proud of the
> > accuracy of the English lyrics he wrote. But he
> > quotes against himself the one mistake he
> > recognises. Not happening to be a pop fan, I've
> > had to look this up, but in _Fernando_ appears
> > the (incorrect) line "Since many years I haven't
> > seen a rifle in your hand". Read "For many years...".
> >
> > Brian Barker
> >
> >
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Re: [vote] Logo for About dialog in 4.1.8 [was: Re: About 20th anniversary plans]

2020-09-09 Thread Rory O'Farrell
On Wed, 9 Sep 2020 13:56:56 +0200
Jörg Schmidt  wrote:

> Hello Czesław, *,
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Czesław Wolański [mailto:czeslaw.wolan...@gmail.com] 
> > Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2020 1:11 PM
> > To: dev@openoffice.apache.org
> > Subject: Re: [vote] Logo for About dialog in 4.1.8 [was: Re: 
> > About 20th anniversary plans]
> > 
> > Hi Jörg, all
> > 
> > > If there is still time for suggestions, here is mine:
> > >
> > > http://calc-info.de/files/AOO_20years.png
> > 
> > Just a little variation on the theme "Logo for About dialog in 4.1.8"
> > based upon your suggestion (and minor/cosmetic alteration on my part).
> > 
> > https://drive.google.com/file/d/1UPed2jyIhHEp9ST49q0uNgqFDWJsN
> > L1s/view?usp=sharing
> 
> In my opinion, the proposal with the text to the right of the existing logo 
> looks similarly unfavorable as the original proposal (i mean: 
> https://home.apache.org/~mseidel/about_20yrs.png)
> 
> > BTW:
> > What font is used for: "Open for all / since 20 years"?
> 
> Arial italic
> 
> 
> 
> I still don't feel my own proposal is optimal, although I had already varied 
> a lot.
> It is important to find an optimum between content and design of the text and 
> the use of elements of the actual logo.
> 
> e.g. I first tried to write "Open" and "20 years" in blue and "for all since" 
> in dark grey, but that seemed to distort the content.
> 
> Maybe the spelling would be too:
> 
> "Open. For all. Since 20 years"

In terms of better English grammar and punctuation, it should be

Open, for all, for 20 years.

or better yet

Open for all, for 20 years.


Rory



> (at the end, without dot)
> 
> feasible, because in the de-OOo-Community we (i think it was Eric H.) once 
> invented a very public slogan :
> 
> "Open. For Business"
> (at the end, without dot)
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Jörg
> 
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Re: OpenSSL versions

2020-08-20 Thread Rory O'Farrell
On Thu, 20 Aug 2020 10:38:23 -0700
Dave Fisher  wrote:

> 
> 
> > On Aug 20, 2020, at 10:27 AM, Matthias Seidel  
> > wrote:
> > 
> > Hi Don,
> > 
> > Am 20.08.20 um 18:35 schrieb Don Lewis:
> >> 
> >>> Need to look at the history of
> >>> 
> >>> (1) openssl
> >>> (2) curl
> >>> (3) and the code that uses those.
> >> The version of openssl used by 4.1.7 is seriously out of date and
> >> doesn't support recent versions of TLS.
> > 
> > Can we update openssl in 4.1.8 at least to the version we use in
> > trunk/AOO42X?
> 
> Yes, please.
> 
> > 
> > That version is "new" enough and has proven to be stable.
> 
> Here is the version history:
> 
> 3.4: openssl-0.9.8o
> 4.0: openssl-0.9.8o
> 4.1.0: openssl-0.9.8zg
> 4.1.6: openssl-0.9.8zh
> 
> 42X: openssl-1.0.2t
> 
> A general question as we triage the update services bug,
> 
> Have we ever used the system openssl in any of our released builds?
> 
> Regards,
> Dave

For information: I am using Xubuntu (64 bit) 20.04.1 updated to today; openssl 
is shown as 1.1.1f-1ubuntu2

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> 
> > 
> > Regards,
> > 
> >Matthias
> > 
> >> 
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Re: Reporting broken links

2020-07-28 Thread Rory O'Farrell
On Tue, 28 Jul 2020 09:44:20 +0200
Jörg Schmidt  wrote:

> Hello, 
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Charlie Smith [mailto:charliesmith...@gmail.com] 
> > Sent: Monday, July 27, 2020 7:51 PM
> > To: dev@openoffice.apache.org
> > Subject: Reporting broken links
> > 
> > After download and repairing openoffice for windows 10, I was 
> > unable to:
> > check for updates failed
> 
> in the AOO program-Folder in the file version.ini change the line:
> 
> UpdateURL=https://ooo-updates.apache.org/aoo416/check.Update
> 
> to:
> 
> UpdateURL=http://ooo-updates.apache.org/aoo416/check.Update
> 
> Then the check for updates work.
> 
> 
> greetings,
> Jörg

For information: that line is in /opt/openoffice4/program/versionrc on my 
Xubuntu 20.04.1 system.  

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Re: Fonts list

2020-07-25 Thread Rory O'Farrell
On Sat, 25 Jul 2020 12:47:27 +0200 (CEST)
Bidouille  wrote:

> Thanks but the goal is not to list installed fonts on a system.
> But which fonts are provided with OpenOffice.


A quick search of the AOO source suggests that

opens___.ttf
opencarlito
croscore
crosextra
dejavu
gentium

fonts are included in the compiled code if the correct switches are enabled at 
compile time.  This information is from source for AOO 3 - possibly the last 3 
version, which is in one of my archive disks.  One could download source for 
AOO 4 and do a similar search for ttf.

The paths should be similar to this
aoo/main/more_fonts/fonts/ttf_carlito

Rory

> 
> - Mail original -
> > De: "Czesław Wolański" 
> > À: dev@openoffice.apache.org
> > Envoyé: Vendredi 24 Juillet 2020 22:38:45
> > Objet: Re: Fonts list
> > 
> > Hi,
> > 
> > > So you found it thanks.
> > 
> > You're welcome.
> > If it weren't for your books on OpenOffice macros, my first steps in
> > this
> > subject
> > would be much more painful. :‑)
> > 
> > Regards,
> > 
> > Czesław Wolański
> > 
> > пт, 24 июл. 2020 г. в 22:18, Andrew Pitonyak :
> > 
> > > yes that sounds like a good place to look I would have checked
> > > there and
> > > then oome if I couldn't find it, and then I would have looked in my
> > > personal macros.
> > >
> > > So you found it thanks.
> > >
> > > ⁣Sent from BlueMail ​
> > >
> > > On Jul 24, 2020, 2:06 PM, at 2:06 PM, "Czesław Wolański" <
> > > czeslaw.wolan...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >Hi,
> > > >
> > > >>I wrote a macro that creates a list in a document with the fonts
> > > >available. No idea where it is, but I can probably find it if you
> > > >like.
> > > >
> > > >@andrew
> > > >
> > > >"Useful Macro Information For OpenOffice.org"
> > > >Chapter 5.4. List Fonts And Other Screen Information (macro
> > > >ListFonts)
> > > >
> > > >Could it perhaps be that the macro you refer to is mentioned in
> > > >"Useful
> > > >Macro Information For OpenOffice.org"?
> > > >Section 5.4.1. "Display supported fonts" provides the following
> > > >link:
> > > >
> > > >http://www.pitonyak.org/AndrewFontMacro.odt
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >Regards,
> > > >
> > > >Czesław Wolański
> > > >
> > > >пт, 24 июл. 2020 г. в 19:33, Andrew Pitonyak
> > > >:
> > > >
> > > >> I wrote a macro that creates a list in a document with the fonts
> > > >> available. No idea where it is, but I can probably find it if
> > > >> you
> > > >like.
> > > >>
> > > >> ⁣Sent from BlueMail ​
> > > >>
> > > >> On Jul 24, 2020, 10:25 AM, at 10:25 AM, Bidouille
> > > >> 
> > > >> wrote:
> > > >> >Hello devteam
> > > >> >
> > > >> >OpenOffice provide and install specific fonts
> > > >> >I'm looking for this list
> > > >> >
> > > >> >Help is welcome :-)
> > > >> >
> > > >>
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Re: Decisions and Behavior

2020-07-08 Thread Rory O'Farrell
Please take this discussion off a public list.

You all need to agree to differ and SHUT UP, at least on a public list!

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Re: Dev-m2 on macOS

2020-07-06 Thread Rory O'Farrell
On Mon, 6 Jul 2020 02:41:00 -0600
Larry Gusaas  wrote:

> On 2020-07-06 12:15 a.m., Rory O'Farrell wrote:
> > On Sun, 5 Jul 2020 17:33:54 -0600
> > Larry Gusaas  wrote:
> >
> >> Downloaded Apache_OpenOffice_Dev_4.2.0_MacOS_x86-64_install_en-US from
> >> https://home.apache.org/~jim/AOO-builds/AOO-dev-50c544e5/
> >>
> >> Spellcheck does not work. Nothing is marked incorrect. Checked using both 
> >> Canadian and US
> >> language setting. Changed my user profile to the one I'm using with 4.1.7. 
> >> Still didn't work.
> >>
> >>
> >> -- 
> >> _
> >>
> >> Larry I. Gusaas
> > The initial check: does the chosen language show in the middle of the 
> > status bar?
> >
> Yes. It is English (Canada).
> 
> In extension manager: "English spelling, hyphenation dictionaries and 
> thesaurus 2020.07.01" 
> installed.
> 
> In Preferences/Language Settings/Language: Language of/Locale setting: 
> Default - English (Canada)
> 
> 
> Aha: Here's the problem:
> 
> In Preferences/Language Settings/Writing Aids/Available language modules: No 
> spellcheck modules 
> listed.
> 
> In AOO 4.1.7 I have Hunspell SpellChecker & Mac OS X Spell Checker listed
> 
> If I copy my user profile from AOO 4.1.7 into AOO Dev-m2 I still have no 
> spell checkers. listed.

I'm not into the OpenOffice code, but am asking questions answers to which I 
have learned from Forum are helpful.  I presume hunspell is (or ought) be 
installed on your Mac.  in linux, 
"locate hunspell" in a terminal shows its locations. Can you confirm, with a 
Mac equivalent command, if hunspell is installed on your Mac, and its 
locations?  The problem is possibly the incorrect configuration of a file path 
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Re: Dev-m2 on macOS

2020-07-06 Thread Rory O'Farrell
On Sun, 5 Jul 2020 17:33:54 -0600
Larry Gusaas  wrote:

> Downloaded Apache_OpenOffice_Dev_4.2.0_MacOS_x86-64_install_en-US from 
> https://home.apache.org/~jim/AOO-builds/AOO-dev-50c544e5/
> 
> Spellcheck does not work. Nothing is marked incorrect. Checked using both 
> Canadian and US 
> language setting. Changed my user profile to the one I'm using with 4.1.7. 
> Still didn't work.
> 
> 
> -- 
> _
> 
> Larry I. Gusaas

The initial check: does the chosen language show in the middle of the status 
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Re: Forum issues

2020-06-16 Thread Rory O'Farrell
On Tue, 16 Jun 2020 12:39:27 +0200 (CEST)
Bidouille  wrote:

> If I'm looking for "forum openoffice" in G**gle France
> Among the results returned: https://forum-test.openoffice.org
> 
> Did you have same thing?
> 
> Other problem with Firefox 77.0.1 (x64)
> Go to https://forum.openoffice.org returns an error
> Warning: Potential Security Risk Ahead
> COMODO certificate seems to be a problem

I didn't find the "test" site in the first three pages using default Google 
(probably Irish server);  Also not found using duckduckgo.  I did not look 
beyond the first three pages on either search engine.

I think I got such an error using Firefox 76 or 77 - I told it to ignore, and 
never had the problem again with FireFoz; I usually use Opera,

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Re: Trying to re-generate the Documentation effort

2020-06-02 Thread Rory O'Farrell
 selfs on
> > >> the existing consent.
> > >>
> > >> Just some Ideas where I tried to describe what we have to do in the
> > >> development section:
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/RapidBoard.jspa?rapidView=301=OPENOFFICE=OPENOFFICE-76
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Development+Improvement
> > >>
> > >>
> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=67633711
> > >>
> > >> As you see it is unordered. And I am experimenting a lot. And I am
> > >> moving between Jira and Cwiki.
> > >>
> > >> But I am becoming better in being able to explain people what Issues do
> > >> we have where. And what could be an easier task to do and what is more
> > >> difficult.
> > >>
> > >> But I really believe that we should leave the choice what people do to
> > >> them.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> And If you look around what I do is not new. MWiki is full of pages
> > >> where people describe what we should do and how. (That is the most
> > >> depressing part on the project, because it is all gobe, and give people
> > >> a tomb feeling.
> > >>
> > >> But at the same time you learn so much from their Ideas. If we can
> > >> standardize somehow these Ideas, and remove names. I think it would
> > >> lower the barrier in getting involved.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> If you feel this is the right way, I invite you to figure a way. If you
> > >> want anything to be done on Jira, just give me a shout. I will create a
> > >> document component, and create a kanban board for you. No Problem.
> > >>
> > >> But you can also use whatever else we have, at our disposal.
> > >>
> > >>> If you are wondering who I am, I have been a moderator on the user
> > forum
> > >>> for about 10 years.
> > >> That is really nice. There is so little exchange between the dev mailing
> > >> list and the support team.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> All the best
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Peter
> > >>
> > >>
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Re: AOO Product page - ambiguous wording?

2020-05-28 Thread Rory O'Farrell
On Thu, 28 May 2020 13:08:47 +0200
Matthias Seidel  wrote:

> Hi Dave, all,
> 
> Am 27.05.20 um 16:26 schrieb Dave Fisher:
> >
> >> On May 27, 2020, at 7:18 AM, Keith N. McKenna  
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> Pedro;
> >> Comments in-line
> >>
> >> On 5/26/2020 5:18 PM, Pedro Lino wrote:
> >>>> Plus your your phrasing
> >>>> leaves it wide open for people to complain about PDF files same as they
> >>>> already do. 
> >>> PDF is not an editable format and it is not from any of the "major 
> >>> competitor" suites. In any case you can open PDF files in OpenOffice. 
> >>> Just install the PDF Import extension.
> >>>
> >> Yes PDF is an editable format, you just need to have a PDF editor. The
> >> fact is that user@ is full of people complaining that AOO will not open
> >> there PDF files.
> > Yes, PDF can be edited.

On Forum,when I mention the PDF editing extension, I try always to say that it 
is suitable for minor, "cosmetic", edits, not for major restructuring of a PDF 
document.  

Rory

> >
> >>>> As we no longer open Word Perfect files then Your
> >>>> phraseology is no longer correct either.
> >>> I'm almost sure WordPerfect is no longer a "major competitor"... 
> >>> Unfortunately I can't find any usage statistics for any office suite to 
> >>> check who are in fact the "major" and if they use any proprietary file 
> >>> types other than Microsoft's...
> >>>
> >> Whether they are a "major competitor" or not is irrelevant, there 2020
> >> office suite is a competitor and we do not open any of there file
> >> formats for word processing, spreadsheet, or presentation.
> > These “Why OpenOffice” sections were written in Sun and Oracle times and 
> > simply ported. Competitors is not the correct term for other myriad 
> > document formats. We don’t have a large company funding our efforts to 
> > “compete”.
> >
> > A more major effort to rewrite this part of the website makes sense to me. 
> > I don’t how much time I have for that effort, but …
> 
> Yes, this part of the webpage should really be rewritten.
> But looking at how long it took us to discuss only a fraction of a
> sentence that will take take a lng time.
> 
> That said, I step back from doing anything in this specific matter.
> If someone wants to change that little part of a sentence, please go ahead!
> 
> Regards,
> 
>    Matthias
> 
> >
> > Regards,
> > Dave
> >
> >
> >> Regards
> >> Keith
> >>
> >>> Regards,
> >>> Pedro
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
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Re: AOO Product page - ambiguous wording?

2020-05-27 Thread Rory O'Farrell
On Tue, 26 May 2020 17:26:55 -0600
Larry Gusaas  wrote:

> On 2020-05-23 2:34 p.m., Czesław Wolański wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > Apache OpenOffice Product Description, section "Why Apache OpenOffice?"
> >
> > https://www.openoffice.org/product/index.html#why-apache-openoffice
> >
> > Not being a native English speaker I have some doubts about one part (2nd
> > bulleted list, 2nd item):
> >
> > "It's easy to change to Apache OpenOffice - the software reads all major
> > competitors' files"
> >
> >  From a purely linguistic perspective: is wording "reads all major
> > competitors' files" to be understood as:
> >
> > - it reads all files of major competitors
> >OR
> > - it reads files of all major competitors
> 
> 
> Apache OpenOffice DOES NOT read Apple Pages, Keynote, or Numbers files.
>
 
I think Larry has proved my point on why we need the softer wording.  I have 
now said as much as is useful for me to say on this thread.

Rory

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Re: AOO Product page - ambiguous wording?

2020-05-26 Thread Rory O'Farrell
On Tue, 26 May 2020 19:30:04 +0100 (WEST)
Pedro Lino  wrote:

> Hi Rory
> 
> 
> > > I believe it would have more impact (and still be correct) if you 
> > > replaced it with
> > > 
> > > "the software reads all current file types of major competitors."
> > > 
> > > Regards,
> > > Pedro
> > 
> > My reasoning for the earlier wording which I suggested is that many users, 
> > becoming more and more inexperienced, expect every file to open with 
> > OpenOffice; they take it as a personal insult when a file does not open, 
> > for whatever reason. I prefer the slight ambiguity of "most".
> 
> That is why I suggest "file types". I understand that users expect OpenOffice 
> to open every file. But I also expect my "old" Office 2016 to open every 
> Microsoft OOXML file correctly and it does not...
> Should we give up on educating users because they feel insulted? Should we 
> not insist on Open Document because most users want to keep using Microsoft 
> file formats?
> 
> Regards,
> Pedro

I am coming to the stage where I despair of ever educating the average computer 
user, usually two generations later than my own - they see the computer as a 
"Magic Box", and expect it to read their minds.  Look even at postings on the 
Dev and the User lists - they rarely read any instructions, cannot (and do not 
search), and expect a short simple answer to t he most complex of questions, an 
answer that does not require them to think.  And if the Dev and User lists are 
bad, just look at the queries on the Forum!
 
Rory

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Re: AOO Product page - ambiguous wording?

2020-05-26 Thread Rory O'Farrell
On Tue, 26 May 2020 19:02:02 +0100 (WEST)
Pedro Lino  wrote:

> Hi Matthias, all
> 
> I believe it would have more impact (and still be correct) if you replaced it 
> with
> 
> "the software reads all current file types of major competitors."
> 
> Regards,
> Pedro

My reasoning for the earlier wording which I suggested is that many users, 
becoming more and more inexperienced, expect every file to open with 
OpenOffice; they take it as a personal insult when a file does not open, for 
whatever reason. I prefer the slight ambiguity of "most".

Rory 

> 
> > On May 26, 2020 5:42 PM Matthias Seidel  wrote:
> > 
> >  
> > Hi all,
> > 
> > If there are no further opinions I will change the text according to
> > Rory's suggestion tomorrow:
> > 
> > ...the software reads all major competitors' files -> ...the software
> > reads most file types of major competitors
> > 
> > This will be for the main page, the /xx template and I will adjust the
> > German translation.
> > 
> > @Czesław: Can you give me a Polish translation?
> > 
> > Regards,
> > 
> >    Matthias
> > 
> > Am 24.05.20 um 12:25 schrieb Matthias Seidel:
> > > +1 to Rory's suggestion.
> > >
> > > Since the discussion already went of topic, let's not forget to rephrase
> > > that sentence... ;-)
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > >    Matthias
> > >
> > > Am 24.05.20 um 09:20 schrieb Rory O'Farrell:
> > >> On Sat, 23 May 2020 22:34:03 +0200
> > >> Czesław Wolański  wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> Hi,
> > >>>
> > >>> Apache OpenOffice Product Description, section "Why Apache OpenOffice?"
> > >>>
> > >>> https://www.openoffice.org/product/index.html#why-apache-openoffice
> > >>>
> > >>> Not being a native English speaker I have some doubts about one part 
> > >>> (2nd
> > >>> bulleted list, 2nd item):
> > >>>
> > >>> "It's easy to change to Apache OpenOffice - the software reads all major
> > >>> competitors' files"
> > >>>
> > >>> From a purely linguistic perspective: is wording "reads all major
> > >>> competitors' files" to be understood as:
> > >>>
> > >>> - it reads all files of major competitors
> > >>>   OR
> > >>> - it reads files of all major competitors
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> Best regards,
> > >>>
> > >>> Czesław Wolański
> > >> Best to rephrase: reads most file types of major competitors.
> > >>
> > >> I say "most" to allow for occasional inabilities to read some .docx and 
> > >> perhaps others not yet developed.
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Re: AOO Product page - ambiguous wording?

2020-05-24 Thread Rory O'Farrell
On Sun, 24 May 2020 10:30:58 +0200
Jörg Schmidt  wrote:

> > -Original Message-
> > From: Rory O'Farrell [mailto:ofarr...@iol.ie] 
> > Sent: Sunday, May 24, 2020 9:20 AM
> > To: dev@openoffice.apache.org
> > Subject: Re: AOO Product page - ambiguous wording?
> > 
> > On Sat, 23 May 2020 22:34:03 +0200
> > Czesław Wolański  wrote:
> > 
> > > Hi,
> > > 
> > > Apache OpenOffice Product Description, section "Why Apache 
> > OpenOffice?"
> > > 
> > > https://www.openoffice.org/product/index.html#why-apache-openoffice
> > > 
> > > Not being a native English speaker I have some doubts about 
> > one part (2nd
> > > bulleted list, 2nd item):
> > > 
> > > "It's easy to change to Apache OpenOffice - the software 
> > reads all major
> > > competitors' files"
> > > 
> > > From a purely linguistic perspective: is wording "reads all major
> > > competitors' files" to be understood as:
> > > 
> > > - it reads all files of major competitors
> > >   OR
> > > - it reads files of all major competitors
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Best regards,
> > > 
> > > Czesław Wolański
> > 
> > Best to rephrase: reads most file types of major competitors.
> > 
> > I say "most" to allow for occasional inabilities to read some 
> > .docx and perhaps others not yet developed.
> 
> They are developed. The filters for these formats are ready for integration 
> into AOO, but they only have to be integrated.
> 
> The fact that this important work has not been done for years is simply a 
> disaster, because it forces more and more users to turn away from AOO.
> 
> 
> grretings,
> Jörg

There have been (on Forum) some small number of .nnnx files that AOO could not 
read.  Rather than make an absolute statement "All files", I prefer that one 
should say "most files", to cater for the odd "rogue" file that for some reason 
will not read.

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Re: AOO Product page - ambiguous wording?

2020-05-24 Thread Rory O'Farrell
On Sat, 23 May 2020 22:34:03 +0200
Czesław Wolański  wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> Apache OpenOffice Product Description, section "Why Apache OpenOffice?"
> 
> https://www.openoffice.org/product/index.html#why-apache-openoffice
> 
> Not being a native English speaker I have some doubts about one part (2nd
> bulleted list, 2nd item):
> 
> "It's easy to change to Apache OpenOffice - the software reads all major
> competitors' files"
> 
> From a purely linguistic perspective: is wording "reads all major
> competitors' files" to be understood as:
> 
> - it reads all files of major competitors
>   OR
> - it reads files of all major competitors
> 
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> Czesław Wolański

Best to rephrase: reads most file types of major competitors.

I say "most" to allow for occasional inabilities to read some .docx and perhaps 
others not yet developed.
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Re: Critical issue on forum.openoffice.org and Google Search

2020-05-20 Thread Rory O'Farrell
On Wed, 20 May 2020 21:19:11 +0200
Hagar Delest  wrote:

> Le 19/05/2020 à 16:10, Peter Kovacs a écrit :
> > Try:
> >
> > 'text lines are overwriting margins' site:forum.openoffice.org
> >
> >
> > For me this removes the did not find any results message.
> >
> 
> No luck.
> Either with " or '.
> 
> Hagar


No results for me either.  Searching for openoffice, which should be in every 
Forum posting, gives no result after 12 May for the Italian Forum, 13 May for 
French Forum, and 23 April for the English Forum.

Rory

> 
> >
> > Am 19.05.20 um 11:22 schrieb Hagar Delest:
> >> Le 19/05/2020 à 08:35, Peter Kovacs a écrit :
> >>> what is your search string? I do not get the line that Google has no 
> >>> hits.
> >> The string is the one in the thread in the forum:
> >> "text lines are overwriting margins" site:forum.openoffice.org
> >>
> >> The result page says (in French):
> >> No result found for...
> >> Then it says:
> >> Results for... (without quotes)
> >> And a list of topics from the forum but no match for the exact string 
> >> of course.
> >>
> >> I've posted a screenshot in the forum: 
> >> https://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=50=102021=492807#p492807
> >>
> >> Hagar
> >>
> >>>
> >>> Am 18.05.20 um 22:20 schrieb Hagar Delest:
> >>>> Hi Peter,
> >>>>
> >>>> I noticed that Google provides hits nevertheless. But the first 
> >>>> line does tell that there are no hits with the specified string.
> >>>>
> >>>> Hagar
> >>>>
> >>>> Le 18/05/2020 à 18:48, Peter Kovacs a écrit :
> >>>>> Im am already at it. It worked for me so far. I get search 
> >>>>> results.Maybe it has to do with the cache.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Not sure.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Am 18.05.20 um 18:22 schrieb Rory O'Farrell:
> >>>>>> On Mon, 18 May 2020 15:44:42 +0100
> >>>>>> Rory O'Farrell  wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On Tue, 12 May 2020 17:41:09 +0200
> >>>>>>> Peter Kovacs  wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Okay, I had a short debug session with Dave and Humbedooh.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> We are now sure that the crawlers are not blocked. The 301 
> >>>>>>>> Response
> >>>>>>>> comes from the fact that Yandex still defaults to http and not 
> >>>>>>>> https.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> This post on User Forum might be relevant
> >>>>>>> https://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=50=102021#p492756
> >>>>>>>  
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Rory
> >>>>>> More detailed examination today shows that
> >>>>>> Google search in French seems to drop out six days ago, in 
> >>>>>> Italian five days ago, and in English about 23rd April - try a 
> >>>>>> search for openoffice and the site specifier
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> See the above URL for details.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Rory
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> After I added https toi the URL all worked fine.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Wave did also do a curl request which also worked fine.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> We have agreed now that I play the ball back to google, with the
> >>>>>>>> feedback that this looks like a Google internal issue.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> The Robot.txt has not been changed for 11 years. Yandex can 
> >>>>>>>> crawl the
> >>>>>>>> URL and we can curl the Webpage. So we think it is an Google 
> >>>>>>>> Issue.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> I very much appreciated the quick session. Thanks.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> all the Best
&

Re: Critical issue on forum.openoffice.org and Google Search

2020-05-18 Thread Rory O'Farrell
On Mon, 18 May 2020 18:48:07 +0200
Peter Kovacs  wrote:

> Im am already at it. It worked for me so far. I get search results.Maybe 
> it has to do with the cache.
> 
> Not sure.


We were testing on recent results; the figures I gave were for finding 
"openoffice" which would be used daily in many postings.

Rory

> 
> Am 18.05.20 um 18:22 schrieb Rory O'Farrell:
> > On Mon, 18 May 2020 15:44:42 +0100
> > Rory O'Farrell  wrote:
> >
> >> On Tue, 12 May 2020 17:41:09 +0200
> >> Peter Kovacs  wrote:
> >>
> >>> Okay, I had a short debug session with Dave and Humbedooh.
> >>>
> >>> We are now sure that the crawlers are not blocked. The 301 Response
> >>> comes from the fact that Yandex still defaults to http and not https.
> >>
> >> This post on User Forum might be relevant
> >> https://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=50=102021#p492756
> >>
> >> Rory
> > More detailed examination today shows that
> > Google search in French seems to drop out six days ago, in Italian five 
> > days ago, and in English about 23rd April - try a search for openoffice and 
> > the site specifier
> >
> > See the above URL for details.
> >
> > Rory
> >
> >
> >>> After I added https toi the URL all worked fine.
> >>>
> >>> Wave did also do a curl request which also worked fine.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> We have agreed now that I play the ball back to google, with the
> >>> feedback that this looks like a Google internal issue.
> >>>
> >>> The Robot.txt has not been changed for 11 years. Yandex can crawl the
> >>> URL and we can curl the Webpage. So we think it is an Google Issue.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> I very much appreciated the quick session. Thanks.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> all the Best
> >>>
> >>> Peter
> >>>
> >>> Am 12.05.20 um 17:24 schrieb Dave Fisher:
> >>>> It’s not an IP Ban. Infra tells me that would not be a 301.
> >>>>
> >>>> Ah-ha - here is the 301:
> >>>>
> >>>> % curl -D headers http://forum.openoffice.org/
> >>>> 
> >>>> 
> >>>> 301 Moved Permanently
> >>>> 
> >>>> Moved Permanently
> >>>> The document has moved  >>>> href="https://forum.openoffice.org/;>here.
> >>>> 
> >>>>
> >>>> Surprising that they cannot shift from HTTP to HTTPS via a 301!
> >>>>
> >>>> Regards,
> >>>> Dave
> >>>>
> >>>>> On May 12, 2020, at 8:04 AM, Dave Fisher  wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Information about Infra IP Bans is here: 
> >>>>> https://infra.apache.org/infra-ban.html
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Please direct the Google engineer to that resource.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Regards,
> >>>>> Dave
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> On May 12, 2020, at 7:55 AM, Dave Fisher  wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Are you sure you weren’t using forums.openoffice.org instead of 
> >>>>>> forum.openoffice.org?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> curl -D headers https://forum.openoffice.org/ does return the correct 
> >>>>>> page.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> The robots.txt is this:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> curl -D headers https://forum.openoffice.org/robots.txt
> >>>>>> User-agent: *
> >>>>>> Crawl-delay: 1
> >>>>>> Disallow: /en/forum/common.php
> >>>>>> Disallow: /en/forum/config.php
> >>>>>> Disallow: /en/forum/con.php
> >>>>>> Disallow: /en/forum/faq.php
> >>>>>> Disallow: /en/forum/mcp.php
> >>>>>> Disallow: /en/forum/memberlist.php
> >>>>>> Disallow: /en/forum/posting.php
> >>>>>> Disallow: /en/forum/report.php
> >>>>>> Disallow: /en/forum/search.php
> >>>>>> Disallow: /en/forum/style.php
> >>>>>> Disallow: /en/forum/ucp.php
> >>>>>> Disallow: /en/forum/viewonline.php
> >>>>>> Disallow: /en/forum/adm
> >>>>>> Disallow: /en/forum/cache
> >>>>

Re: Critical issue on forum.openoffice.org and Google Search

2020-05-18 Thread Rory O'Farrell
On Mon, 18 May 2020 15:44:42 +0100
Rory O'Farrell  wrote:

> On Tue, 12 May 2020 17:41:09 +0200
> Peter Kovacs  wrote:
> 
> > Okay, I had a short debug session with Dave and Humbedooh.
> > 
> > We are now sure that the crawlers are not blocked. The 301 Response 
> > comes from the fact that Yandex still defaults to http and not https.
> 
> 
> This post on User Forum might be relevant
> https://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=50=102021#p492756
> 
> Rory

More detailed examination today shows that
Google search in French seems to drop out six days ago, in Italian five days 
ago, and in English about 23rd April - try a search for openoffice and the site 
specifier

See the above URL for details.

Rory


> > 
> > After I added https toi the URL all worked fine.
> > 
> > Wave did also do a curl request which also worked fine.
> > 
> > 
> > We have agreed now that I play the ball back to google, with the 
> > feedback that this looks like a Google internal issue.
> > 
> > The Robot.txt has not been changed for 11 years. Yandex can crawl the 
> > URL and we can curl the Webpage. So we think it is an Google Issue.
> > 
> > 
> > I very much appreciated the quick session. Thanks.
> > 
> > 
> > all the Best
> > 
> > Peter
> > 
> > Am 12.05.20 um 17:24 schrieb Dave Fisher:
> > > It’s not an IP Ban. Infra tells me that would not be a 301.
> > >
> > > Ah-ha - here is the 301:
> > >
> > > % curl -D headers http://forum.openoffice.org/
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 301 Moved Permanently
> > > 
> > > Moved Permanently
> > > The document has moved  > > href="https://forum.openoffice.org/;>here.
> > > 
> > >
> > > Surprising that they cannot shift from HTTP to HTTPS via a 301!
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Dave
> > >
> > >> On May 12, 2020, at 8:04 AM, Dave Fisher  wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Information about Infra IP Bans is here: 
> > >> https://infra.apache.org/infra-ban.html
> > >>
> > >> Please direct the Google engineer to that resource.
> > >>
> > >> Regards,
> > >> Dave
> > >>
> > >>> On May 12, 2020, at 7:55 AM, Dave Fisher  wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> Are you sure you weren’t using forums.openoffice.org instead of 
> > >>> forum.openoffice.org?
> > >>>
> > >>> curl -D headers https://forum.openoffice.org/ does return the correct 
> > >>> page.
> > >>>
> > >>> The robots.txt is this:
> > >>>
> > >>> curl -D headers https://forum.openoffice.org/robots.txt
> > >>> User-agent: *
> > >>> Crawl-delay: 1
> > >>> Disallow: /en/forum/common.php
> > >>> Disallow: /en/forum/config.php
> > >>> Disallow: /en/forum/con.php
> > >>> Disallow: /en/forum/faq.php
> > >>> Disallow: /en/forum/mcp.php
> > >>> Disallow: /en/forum/memberlist.php
> > >>> Disallow: /en/forum/posting.php
> > >>> Disallow: /en/forum/report.php
> > >>> Disallow: /en/forum/search.php
> > >>> Disallow: /en/forum/style.php
> > >>> Disallow: /en/forum/ucp.php
> > >>> Disallow: /en/forum/viewonline.php
> > >>> Disallow: /en/forum/adm
> > >>> Disallow: /en/forum/cache
> > >>> Disallow: /en/forum/docs
> > >>> Disallow: /en/forum/files
> > >>> Disallow: /en/forum/images
> > >>> Disallow: /en/forum/includes
> > >>> Disallow: /en/forum/language
> > >>> Disallow: /en/forum/store
> > >>> Disallow: /en/forum/styles
> > >>> Disallow: /es/forum/common.php
> > >>> Disallow: /es/forum/config.php
> > >>> Disallow: /es/forum/con.php
> > >>> Disallow: /es/forum/faq.php
> > >>> Disallow: /es/forum/mcp.php
> > >>> Disallow: /es/forum/memberlist.php
> > >>> Disallow: /es/forum/posting.php
> > >>> Disallow: /es/forum/report.php
> > >>> Disallow: /es/forum/search.php
> > >>> Disallow: /es/forum/style.php
> > >>> Disallow: /es/forum/ucp.php
> > >>> Disallow: /es/forum/viewonline.php
> > >>> Disallow: /es/forum/adm
> > >>> Disallow: /es/forum/cache
> > >>> Disallow: /es/forum/docs
> > >>> 

Re: Critical issue on forum.openoffice.org and Google Search

2020-05-18 Thread Rory O'Farrell
gt;>>>>
> >>>>>>>Matthias
> >>>>>> OK. In the top level of the website source, there is a file called
> >>>>>> "skeleton.html" which references the following bit of code --
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I didn't dig far enough to find how "skeleton.html" is used ( I
> >>>>>> forgot) but this this is example for the google-analytics code snippet
> >>>>>> that is used. Basically, this needs to be included in the site you
> >>>>>> want analytics to be used on by putting it in the (header) files that
> >>>>>> generate the site. And, you might  take a look at recent instructions
> >>>>>> from Google. Things change.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> https://support.google.com/analytics/answer/1008080
> >>>>> Yes, but this is for Google Analytics. I wouldn't want to "analyze" the
> >>>>> forum...
> >>>>> The procedure for the Google Search Console is the same, it needs access
> >>>>> to the root directory.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Maybe Andrea can help if he is available again?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Regards,
> >>>>>
> >>>>>   Matthias
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Regards,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Kay
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> One of the Google Search admins for forum.openoffice.org could check
> >>>>>>>> the current Google search apis that are in use on that site. Changes
> >>>>>>>> are occasionally made to the calls, and maybe that is the issue, or a
> >>>>>>>> robots.txt for that site is causing this. I don't think it requires a
> >>>>>>>> response, but maybe some investigation.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Just some ideas...
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Regards,
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Kay
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On 5/11/20 6:02 AM, Peter Kovacs wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> Hi all,
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> I have received following mail. Probably because I am listed in the
> >>>>>>>>> google-Analytics page.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Does this has some action items? What can we answer Mr John Mueller?
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> All the Best
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Peter
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>  Weitergeleitete Nachricht 
> >>>>>>>>> Betreff: Critical issue on forum.openoffice.org and Google 
> >>>>>>>>> Search
> >>>>>>>>> Datum: Mon, 11 May 2020 13:37:27 +0200
> >>>>>>>>> Von: John Mueller 
> >>>>>>>>> An: morsei...@gmail.com, kay.sch...@gmail.com, legi...@gmail.com
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Dear webmaster of forum.openoffice.org <http://forum.openoffice.org>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> I'm an analyst at Google in Switzerland. We wanted to bring your
> >>>>>>>>> attention to a critical issue with your website, and how it's
> >>>>>>>>> available for Google's web search.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> In particular, Googlebot has been unable to crawl URLs from
> >>>>>>>>> https://forum.openoffice.org/ . This will cause those pages to drop
> >>>>>>>>> out of Google's search results, and will prevent new pages from 
> >>>>>>>>> being
> >>>>>>>>> picked up for Search. If you're not aware of this issue, you may be
> >>>>>>>>> accidentally blocking these pages from Google Search due to a server
> >>>>>>>>> issue. If you need to block Googlebot from crawling pages on your
> >>>>>>>>> website, we'd recommend using the robots.txt file instead.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Should you need to recognize IP addresses of Googlebot requests, you
> >>>>>>>>> can use a reverse IP lookup to do so:
> >>>>>>>>> https://support.google.com/webmasters/answer/80553
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Should you have any questions, feel free to contact me directly. For
> >>>>>>>>> verification purposes, we are sending a copy of this message to your
> >>>>>>>>> site's Search Console account.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Thank you,
> >>>>>>>>> John Mueller (joh...@google.com <mailto:joh...@google.com>)
> >>>>>>>>> Webmaster Trends Analyst
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
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Re: Copyrights for works created using Open Office

2020-04-24 Thread Rory O'Farrell
On Fri, 24 Apr 2020 08:45:51 -0400
Jasmine Kanter  wrote:

> To Whom It May Concern:
> 
> I've been looking for an alternative to the (costly) Microsoft Office Suite
> of products and I'm very impressed by the Apache Software Foundation's
> vision and range of products. I'm trying also to be a conscientious user by
> carefully reading your software licenses and FAQs before I download.
> Perhaps this is an obvious question (certainly I can infer the answer from
> your organization's manifestos), but I haven't found it stated explicitly
> anywhere on your websites: does Open Office make any claims to the
> copyrights of a work created with it? That is to say, if I wrote a
> screenplay using Writer, do I retain full copyrights?

Yes.

> 
> I've already read the Apache License 2.0 document, the license statement
> for Open Office, as well as the FAQs on both pages and I understand the
> rights pertaining to use of the software, but I don't see any mention of
> copyrights for works created with it. Usually (as with Google Docs, for
> example) there is a page listing Terms and Conditions that answers these
> questions. Can you please direct me to that page? And may I suggest adding
> it to the Open Office FAQs or License statement?
> 
> Thanks for your time,
> 
> *Jasmine Kanter*
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Re: Reporting broken download link

2020-04-16 Thread Rory O'Farrell
On Thu, 16 Apr 2020 19:02:36 +0100
Pam Birley  wrote:

> Tried to download Apache Office but when completed Mac said only downloads
> from Apple Store are accepted and can run!!!
> 
> This seems an infringement  of my rights!!
> 
> Can I overcome this please?
 
> 
> Pam

This is due to the Gatekeeper application that Apple is supplying with your 
computer.
For a solution read Q05/A05 in 
https://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=74=89283=420635
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Re: Spam-Attack on Bugzilla

2020-04-12 Thread Rory O'Farrell
On Sun, 12 Apr 2020 12:05:17 +0200
Peter Kovacs  wrote:

> since we use it as developer tool only, I agree.
> 
> Am 12.04.20 um 12:02 schrieb Matthias Seidel:
> > Hi Marcus,
> >
> > Am 10.04.20 um 22:38 schrieb Marcus:
> >> Am 10.04.20 um 19:27 schrieb Matthias Seidel:
> >>> https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=17086
> >>>
> >>> Is there anything we can do about this?
> >>>
> >>> At least we should block these users...
> >> I've disabled all these user accounts.
> >>
> >> But IMHO there is nothing else we can do. Even with a capture it's not
> >> impossible to create an user account for spaming.
> >>
> >> Or is there something new I don't know yet?
> > Nothing that I know of...
> >
> > But we should think about creating Bugzilla account only on request
> > (like for Pootle).
> > Given the amount of SPAM and many end user questions flooding our bug
> > tracking system this would help a lot.
> >
> > Matthias
> >
> >> Marcus

On en-Forum all first postings have to be approved by a moderator; this gives 
prompt assessment and removal of obvious spam.  Some spammers will make a 
number of trivial replies or replies with meaningful information, often 
unattributed text from other sources, so their information looks OK, then 
subsequently edit their messages to insert spam; we usually catch these fairly 
promptly.

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Re: defekter link

2020-03-05 Thread Rory O'Farrell
On Thu, 5 Mar 2020 15:38:24 +0100
Claus Stüber  wrote:

> Hallo und guten Tag,
> 
> ein Download von Apache OpenOffice ist nicht möglich, Fehlermeldung:
> 
> 
>   Diese Seite funktioniert nicht
> 
> *downloads.sourceforge.net*hat keine Daten gesendet.
> 
> ERR_EMPTY_RESPONSE
> 
> 
> 
> https://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/files/4.1.7/binaries/de/Apache_OpenOffice_4.1.7_Win_x86_install_de.exe/download
> 
> 
> -- 
> Claus Stüber
> Friederike-Nadig-Str.32
> 64807 Dieburg
> 

Worked correctly for me, just now tested.


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Re: Unsuccessful test of AOO 4.5 from buildbot output

2020-02-27 Thread Rory O'Farrell
On Thu, 27 Feb 2020 12:13:26 + (WET)
Pedro Lino  wrote:

> Hi Rory
> 
> Thank you for the quick answer and details (I just saw a similar issue 
> answered by you on the forum).
> 
> I don't use sound on this desktop so it could be missing and I wouldn't 
> notice it :)

I use sound sometimes from VLC media player for testing of a copy video DVD, 
and sometimes to play a clip from TV (bbc.co.uk) to catch up on a news item; 
these are handled by Xubuntu.  I don't play media from Impress presentations - 
waitiong until we get the gstreamer 1.0 properly integrated into Impress - any 
media (rarely used) in one of my Impress presentations (a video clip) I set up 
to be handled by the system media player or VLC - clunky, but it works.

The gailwindow problem seems to only concern OpenOffice and to have no obvious 
effect bad effect.

I have a test machine running Xubuntu 20.04, on which I'll try any test 4.2.0 
or 4.5.0

Rory

> 
> As for graphics I don't notice any glitches (on AOO or any other program) so 
> whatever gailwindow is, it is not (apparently) affecting the usability.
> 
> Thanks!
> Pedro
> 
> > On February 27, 2020 11:07 AM Rory O'Farrell  wrote:
> >  
> > On Thu, 27 Feb 2020 09:33:40 + (WET)
> > Pedro Lino  wrote:
> > >
> > > That is what I figured.
> > > Starting version 4.5 (buildbot) from command I get
> > > 
> > > Gtk-Message: 09:25:35.089: Failed to load module "canberra-gtk-module"
> > > 
> > > ** (soffice:6631): WARNING **: 09:25:35.096: Unknown type: GailWindow
> > > 
> > > But this is exactly the same error message that I get if I do the same 
> > > with version 4.1.7 so it is not a regression...
> > > 
> > > I have no idea if it is relevant but something is missing.
> > 
> > It is my understanding that the canberra modules are to do with sound; the 
> > gailwindow is something to do with GNOME Accessibility Implementation 
> > Library; from its name I think it should be graphic related rather than 
> > sound related.
> > 
> > I note that on Xubuntu 18.04.X, starting AOO 4.1.6 and 4.1.7 in a terminal 
> > I get a gailwindow error, although OO then runs correctly for my purposes 
> > (Writer, Impress, very simple Calc).
> > 
> > On Xubuntu 20.04 (updated to daily updates), AOO 4.5.0 did not give 
> > gailwindow error when started in a terminal.  The version of AOO 4.5.0 I 
> > used was 
> > AOO 450m(Build 990)
> > Rev 824d147bf9
> > 2020-02-16_04:12:23
> > 
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Re: Unsuccessful test of AOO 4.5 from buildbot output

2020-02-27 Thread Rory O'Farrell
On Thu, 27 Feb 2020 09:33:40 + (WET)
Pedro Lino  wrote:

> Hi Kay
> 
> > On February 26, 2020 11:49 PM Kay Schenk  wrote:
> > 
> > I see these messages as soon as I start up the new OpenOffice from 
> > command line and it will not continue -- bring up the application.  I 
> > have it installed in a separate directory from my "production" version. 
> > Carl and I are both on CentOS7 with an older gcc it seems and he got 
> > this as well. I remember ahvign this same issue quite some time ago with 
> > the buildbot version. Production versions, because they are built on 
> > older platforms, don't seem to have this issue.
> 
> That is what I figured.
> Starting version 4.5 (buildbot) from command I get
> 
> Gtk-Message: 09:25:35.089: Failed to load module "canberra-gtk-module"
> 
> ** (soffice:6631): WARNING **: 09:25:35.096: Unknown type: GailWindow
> 
> But this is exactly the same error message that I get if I do the same with 
> version 4.1.7 so it is not a regression...
> 
> I have no idea if it is relevant but something is missing.
> 
> Regards,
> Pedro

It is my understanding that the canberra modules are to do with sound; the 
gailwindow is something to do with GNOME Accessibility Implementation Library; 
from its name I think it should be graphic related rather than sound related.

I note that on Xubuntu 18.04.X, starting AOO 4.1.6 and 4.1.7 in a terminal I 
get a gailwindow error, although OO then runs correctly for my purposes 
(Writer, Impress, very simple Calc).

On Xubuntu 20.04 (updated to daily updates), AOO 4.5.0 did not give gailwindow 
error when started in a terminal.  The version of AOO 4.5.0 I used was 
AOO 450m(Build 990)
Rev 824d147bf9
2020-02-16_04:12:23

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Re: Optical glitches in Ubuntu 20.04

2020-02-25 Thread Rory O'Farrell
On Tue, 25 Feb 2020 18:18:14 +0100
Matthias Seidel  wrote:

> Hi Rory,
> 
> Am 25.02.20 um 18:11 schrieb Rory O'Farrell:
> > On Tue, 25 Feb 2020 14:31:43 +0100
> > Matthias Seidel  wrote:
> >
> >> It seems that nobody cares about how ugly AOO will look on Ubuntu 20.04?
> >>
> >> Am 08.02.20 um 12:55 schrieb Matthias Seidel:
> >>> Hi all,
> >>>
> >>> Ubuntu 20.04 is coming in April and AOO has some issues with the "new"
> >>> GNOME theme:
> >>>
> >>> https://home.apache.org/~mseidel/AOO420-Ubuntu2004.png
> >>>
> >>> Until Ubuntu 18.04 it looked all right.
> >>>
> >>> Any ideas?
> >>>
> >>> Regards,
> >>>
> >>>    Matthias
> > On Xubuntu 20.04 (out of the box install) with today's updates (2020-02-25) 
> > A00 4.5.0 of 2020-02-16_04:12:23 that sidebar looks good - positioning of 
> > the various panels is correct.
> >
> > On Xubuntu 18.04.4 (with today's updates), AOO 420m2(Build:9821) 
> > 2020-02-16_12:52:4 that sidebar looks good also.
> 
> Yes, but I am talking about Ubuntu here, not Xubuntu... The problems are
> with GNOME, not with XFCE.
> 
> AOO on Ubuntu 18.04 still looks "normal". Ubuntu 20.04 is the next LTS
> version coming in April, so people upgrading from 18.04 to 20.04 will be
> disappointed.
> 
> Regards,
> 
>    Matthias

It is good to check that a problem is isolated to a particular operating 
system, which is why I reported on the two Xubuntu versions.

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Re: Optical glitches in Ubuntu 20.04

2020-02-25 Thread Rory O'Farrell
On Tue, 25 Feb 2020 14:31:43 +0100
Matthias Seidel  wrote:

> It seems that nobody cares about how ugly AOO will look on Ubuntu 20.04?
> 
> Am 08.02.20 um 12:55 schrieb Matthias Seidel:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > Ubuntu 20.04 is coming in April and AOO has some issues with the "new"
> > GNOME theme:
> >
> > https://home.apache.org/~mseidel/AOO420-Ubuntu2004.png
> >
> > Until Ubuntu 18.04 it looked all right.
> >
> > Any ideas?
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> >    Matthias

On Xubuntu 20.04 (out of the box install) with today's updates (2020-02-25) A00 
4.5.0 of 2020-02-16_04:12:23 that sidebar looks good - positioning of the 
various panels is correct.

On Xubuntu 18.04.4 (with today's updates), AOO 420m2(Build:9821) 
2020-02-16_12:52:4 that sidebar looks good also.

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Re: New Challange ODF 1.3 is out

2020-02-09 Thread Rory O'Farrell
On Sun, 9 Feb 2020 19:54:56 +0100
Regina Henschel  wrote:

> Hi Rory,
> 
> Rory O'Farrell schrieb am 09-Feb-20 um 17:29:
> > Is there a document from Oasis giving a synopsis of the changes from 1.2 to 
> > 1.3?  This would give an  idea of how much work was involved in the 
> > transition from 1.2.
> 
> No, such synopsis does not exist. The committee candidate has an 
> appendix which lists the issues, which were incorporated, and the relax 
> schema has comments at the element/attributes by which issue they are 
> effected.
> 
> Besides a lot of errata and clearing precedency of attributes and 
> clearing corner cases, I see these new things in ODF 1.3 for example:
> several changes and additions in number formats
> several additions to charts, e.g new kind of interpolation and of 
> regression curve
> additional print option in Calc
> PGP encryption
> 
> Example of things implemented in AOO and now in ODF 1.3:
> attribute table:tab-color (Calc)
> element chart:coordinate-region
> 
> You can compare the namespaces actually written by AOO with the 
> namespaces listed in the ODF 1.3 specification candidate. Then you look 
> in the core to which elements and attributes such own namespace is 
> written. Then you take that element or attribute and look in the 
> appendix of the ODF 1.3 specification, whether it is affected.
> 
> Kind regards
> Regina

Thank you, Regina - a helpful summary.

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Re: New Challange ODF 1.3 is out

2020-02-09 Thread Rory O'Farrell
On Sun, 9 Feb 2020 17:22:12 +0100
Peter Kovacs  wrote:

> My personal opinion in this matter is that it does not matter what
> others do. All that counts is that ODF 1.3 is out.
> 
> If others want to join the party everyone is welcome. If they do not
> want to that is fine, too.
> 
> I am personal very happy that the TDF has managed to organize this. And
> I am excited to work on this.
> 
> 
> So I would like to focus on the Todos what we need to do in order to get
> this done.
> 
> My fist Ideas would be:
> 
> # compare 1.3with 1.2 or see if we get any other compares of changes.
> 
> # Then we need to check what is covered by the 1.2 extended implementation.
> 
> # 3 We need to make a plan what is to implement for 1.3 and make a
> tracking list of features and tests to implement.
> 
> 
> Any more Ideas?
> 
> 
> All the Best
> 
> Peter

Is there a document from Oasis giving a synopsis of the changes from 1.2 to 
1.3?  This would give an  idea of how much work was involved in the transition 
from 1.2.

Rory 


> 
> On 09.02.20 12:28, Jörg Schmidt wrote:
> > Hello, 
> >
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: Pedro Lino [mailto:pedro.l...@mailbox.org] 
> >> Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2020 11:51 AM
> >> To: dev@openoffice.apache.org
> >> Subject: Re: New Challange ODF 1.3 is out
> >>
> >> Hi Peter, all
> >>
> >>> Just a heads up. On FOSDEM I learned that TDF managed to 
> >> raise money and
> >>> do the work for ODF v 1.3.
> >> I believe this is a quite relevant announcement!
> >>
> >> If ODF 1.3 is only used by a single Office suite then it will 
> >> no longer be "software independent" which IMHO defeats the 
> >> purpose of an Open Document format...
> >> On the other hand given that ODF 1.3 is currently not an ISO 
> >> standard, Microsoft will not care about it until it is (in 
> >> fact they are making sure that ODF is not used at all)
> >>
> >> This will also isolate AOO since Open Documents will only 
> >> travel in one direction without feature loss (much like what 
> >> happens now with Microsoft's XML formats)
> > You described it very well.
> >
> > I myself have been following the development of ODF from the very beginning 
> > and I have to underline what you write, or rather I have to take a critical 
> > look at the approach of the TDF, because:
> >
> > In terms of a free, uniform format for office documents and the declared 
> > intention to formulate this standard as an ISO standard, it is regularly 
> > counterproductive for LO to deviate from this and implement OASIS standard.
> >
> > We all know what to think about MS in general ... but ... the approach of 
> > MS to ODF to implement the ISO standard is an understandable and reasonable 
> > decision.
> >
> > I make this assessment for the following reason:
> > if it wasn't important that ODF was defined as an ISO standard, you could 
> > have stuck with the OASIS standard from the beginning.
> >
> >
> >> Maybe it is in OASIS' interest (and even TDF's?) that other 
> >> software adopts ODF 1.3 and that they could/should provide 
> >> some support/developer time?
> > Probably this is a pragmatically correct question and we have no real 
> > possibility to behave better.
> >
> > However, we should keep in mind that the behaviour of the TDF is not 
> > optimal as far as the interests of the sum of all users are concerned.
> > It is likely that MS is playing a similar game with OOXML, but the FOSS 
> > community should not see this as an example or excuse for their own actions.
> >
> >
> >
> > greetings,
> > Jörg
> >
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Re: Time for some test tarballs/developer releases for 4.1.8-dev and 4.2.0-devm2

2020-01-06 Thread Rory O'Farrell
On Mon, 6 Jan 2020 16:43:56 +
Rory O'Farrell  wrote:

> On Mon, 6 Jan 2020 16:07:53 +
> Rory O'Farrell  wrote:
> 
> > On Mon, 6 Jan 2020 16:54:21 +0100
> > Matthias Seidel  wrote:
> > 
> > > Hi Jim,
> > > 
> > > Am 06.01.20 um 16:18 schrieb Jim Jagielski:
> > > > Hmmm... Is this using one of our test builds, something from our 
> > > > buildbots, or your own build?
> > > 
> > > In my case (Ubuntu 19.10) it was a build from our bots.
> > > I am just setting up a new VM and will do further tests.
> > > 
> > > On Ubuntu 18.04 there are no problems, but 20.04 will be released in 
> > > April.
> > > 
> > > Regards,
> > > 
> > >    Matthias
> > 
> > There is one problem in Xubuntu 18.04.X - start openoffice4 in a terminal, 
> > and there are several messages during program execution as follows:
> > 
> > ** (soffice:16311): WARNING **: 16:05:20.749: Unknown type: GailWindow
> > 
> > This does not seem to cause problems, but there ought not be spurious 
> > messages - remember Aesop and the boy who cried "Wolf"!
> 
> 
> There are two files in AOO source which use GailWindow.  These are
> /main/vlc/unx/gtk/a11y/atkbridge.cxx, and in the same folder atkwindow.cxx.
> 
> Not understanding c++ I can't be of more help.
> 
> Rory


I have tested using Xubuntu 20.04 and AOO 4.2.0.  Running openoffice4 in a 
terminal, I do not get the GailWindow error.

Rory

> 
> > 
> > Rory
> > 
> > 
> > > 
> > > >
> > > >> On Jan 5, 2020, at 2:31 PM, Matthias Seidel 
> > > >>  wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> Hi Jim,
> > > >>
> > > >> Just a short note:
> > > >>
> > > >> It seems that AOO crashes immediately at startup on newer Linux distros
> > > >> like CentOS 8, Fedora 31 or Ubuntu 19.10.
> > > >>
> > > >> We should investigate that before we think of new DevBuild.
> > > >>
> > > >> Regards,
> > > >>
> > > >>Matthias
> > > >>
> > > >> Am 03.01.20 um 18:22 schrieb Jim Jagielski:
> > > >>> Sub sez it all. Yeah, I know we have some bugz to squash, but maybe 
> > > >>> getingt some feedback on the current state is helpful too.
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Re: Time for some test tarballs/developer releases for 4.1.8-dev and 4.2.0-devm2

2020-01-06 Thread Rory O'Farrell
On Mon, 6 Jan 2020 16:07:53 +
Rory O'Farrell  wrote:

> On Mon, 6 Jan 2020 16:54:21 +0100
> Matthias Seidel  wrote:
> 
> > Hi Jim,
> > 
> > Am 06.01.20 um 16:18 schrieb Jim Jagielski:
> > > Hmmm... Is this using one of our test builds, something from our 
> > > buildbots, or your own build?
> > 
> > In my case (Ubuntu 19.10) it was a build from our bots.
> > I am just setting up a new VM and will do further tests.
> > 
> > On Ubuntu 18.04 there are no problems, but 20.04 will be released in April.
> > 
> > Regards,
> > 
> >    Matthias
> 
> There is one problem in Xubuntu 18.04.X - start openoffice4 in a terminal, 
> and there are several messages during program execution as follows:
> 
> ** (soffice:16311): WARNING **: 16:05:20.749: Unknown type: GailWindow
> 
> This does not seem to cause problems, but there ought not be spurious 
> messages - remember Aesop and the boy who cried "Wolf"!


There are two files in AOO source which use GailWindow.  These are
/main/vlc/unx/gtk/a11y/atkbridge.cxx, and in the same folder atkwindow.cxx.

Not understanding c++ I can't be of more help.

Rory

> 
> Rory
> 
> 
> > 
> > >
> > >> On Jan 5, 2020, at 2:31 PM, Matthias Seidel  
> > >> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Hi Jim,
> > >>
> > >> Just a short note:
> > >>
> > >> It seems that AOO crashes immediately at startup on newer Linux distros
> > >> like CentOS 8, Fedora 31 or Ubuntu 19.10.
> > >>
> > >> We should investigate that before we think of new DevBuild.
> > >>
> > >> Regards,
> > >>
> > >>Matthias
> > >>
> > >> Am 03.01.20 um 18:22 schrieb Jim Jagielski:
> > >>> Sub sez it all. Yeah, I know we have some bugz to squash, but maybe 
> > >>> getingt some feedback on the current state is helpful too.
> > >>> -
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Re: Time for some test tarballs/developer releases for 4.1.8-dev and 4.2.0-devm2

2020-01-06 Thread Rory O'Farrell
On Mon, 6 Jan 2020 16:54:21 +0100
Matthias Seidel  wrote:

> Hi Jim,
> 
> Am 06.01.20 um 16:18 schrieb Jim Jagielski:
> > Hmmm... Is this using one of our test builds, something from our buildbots, 
> > or your own build?
> 
> In my case (Ubuntu 19.10) it was a build from our bots.
> I am just setting up a new VM and will do further tests.
> 
> On Ubuntu 18.04 there are no problems, but 20.04 will be released in April.
> 
> Regards,
> 
>    Matthias

There is one problem in Xubuntu 18.04.X - start openoffice4 in a terminal, and 
there are several messages during program execution as follows:

** (soffice:16311): WARNING **: 16:05:20.749: Unknown type: GailWindow

This does not seem to cause problems, but there ought not be spurious messages 
- remember Aesop and the boy who cried "Wolf"!

Rory


> 
> >
> >> On Jan 5, 2020, at 2:31 PM, Matthias Seidel  
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi Jim,
> >>
> >> Just a short note:
> >>
> >> It seems that AOO crashes immediately at startup on newer Linux distros
> >> like CentOS 8, Fedora 31 or Ubuntu 19.10.
> >>
> >> We should investigate that before we think of new DevBuild.
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >>
> >>Matthias
> >>
> >> Am 03.01.20 um 18:22 schrieb Jim Jagielski:
> >>> Sub sez it all. Yeah, I know we have some bugz to squash, but maybe 
> >>> getingt some feedback on the current state is helpful too.
> >>> -
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Re: Time for some test tarballs/developer releases for 4.1.8-dev and 4.2.0-devm2

2020-01-06 Thread Rory O'Farrell
On Mon, 6 Jan 2020 11:19:33 +
Rory O'Farrell  wrote:

> On Sun, 5 Jan 2020 20:31:26 +0100
> Matthias Seidel  wrote:
> 
> > Hi Jim,
> > 
> > Just a short note:
> > 
> > It seems that AOO crashes immediately at startup on newer Linux distros
> > like CentOS 8, Fedora 31 or Ubuntu 19.10.
> > 
> > We should investigate that before we think of new DevBuild.
> > 
> > Regards,
> > 
> >    Matthias
> 
> I installed Xubuntu 20.04 (downloaded 2020-01-05) on a spare (old) computer 
> (out of the box install).
> 
> I then purged LibreOffice and installed AOO 4.2.0 downloaded from 
> https://ci.apache.org/projects/openoffice/install/41x/, version dated 
> 2019-12-29 12:43:21 64 bit deb, en-US version.
> 
> I remark that the SDK deb version was not available for download from that 
> URL (merely a comment).  SDK was not installed on my test setup.

[Later] The SDK of the above date and site is now downloading.

Rory


> 
> It opened the Start Center, and I was able to Open Writer, Calc, Impress and 
> Draw (nothing else tried). After closing these, some minutes later the system 
> announced that
> "soffice.bin crashed with SIGSEGV in rtl_uString_acquire()"
> 
> I will be happy to keep Xubuntu 20.04 (as updated) running on that computer 
> and test any revisions of AOO 4.1.8 or 4.2.0 or 4.5.0 as these become 
> available.
> 
> Rory
> 
>  
> 
> > 
> > Am 03.01.20 um 18:22 schrieb Jim Jagielski:
> > > Sub sez it all. Yeah, I know we have some bugz to squash, but maybe 
> > > getingt some feedback on the current state is helpful too.
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Re: Time for some test tarballs/developer releases for 4.1.8-dev and 4.2.0-devm2

2020-01-06 Thread Rory O'Farrell
On Sun, 5 Jan 2020 20:31:26 +0100
Matthias Seidel  wrote:

> Hi Jim,
> 
> Just a short note:
> 
> It seems that AOO crashes immediately at startup on newer Linux distros
> like CentOS 8, Fedora 31 or Ubuntu 19.10.
> 
> We should investigate that before we think of new DevBuild.
> 
> Regards,
> 
>    Matthias

I installed Xubuntu 20.04 (downloaded 2020-01-05) on a spare (old) computer 
(out of the box install).

I then purged LibreOffice and installed AOO 4.2.0 downloaded from 
https://ci.apache.org/projects/openoffice/install/41x/, version dated 
2019-12-29 12:43:21 64 bit deb, en-US version.

I remark that the SDK deb version was not available for download from that URL 
(merely a comment).  SDK was not installed on my test setup.

It opened the Start Center, and I was able to Open Writer, Calc, Impress and 
Draw (nothing else tried). After closing these, some minutes later the system 
announced that
"soffice.bin crashed with SIGSEGV in rtl_uString_acquire()"

I will be happy to keep Xubuntu 20.04 (as updated) running on that computer and 
test any revisions of AOO 4.1.8 or 4.2.0 or 4.5.0 as these become available.

Rory

 

> 
> Am 03.01.20 um 18:22 schrieb Jim Jagielski:
> > Sub sez it all. Yeah, I know we have some bugz to squash, but maybe getingt 
> > some feedback on the current state is helpful too.
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Re: Reporting broken download link

2019-12-22 Thread Rory O'Farrell
On Sun, 22 Dec 2019 13:43:30 +
Harry Hamm  wrote:

> trying to download windows (exe),english (british),4.1.7 of open office but
> only get message to say sourceforge.net can't provide a secure connection.

Be sure you download from http://www.openoffice.org/download Try a different 
browser.  Works OK for me with Firefox or Opera.

If you have any doubts about the integrity of the download, use the methods in 
the "how to verify the download" link below the version selector panel to 
verify.

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Re: Technical Support Expiration Date for Open Office 4.1.6

2019-11-07 Thread Rory O'Farrell
On Thu, 7 Nov 2019 14:20:04 +
"Comeche Nolla, Sergi"  wrote:

> Hello,
> 
> I work for a long-term project which requires strong and stable technical 
> support for every software used.
> 
> I want to know how long you are providing technical support for the following 
> SW product:
> 
> Open Office 4.1.6
> 
> Please I appreciate so much that you can give me expiration dates for this 
> software product!
> 
> Thank you!

Free support is provided by volunteers on a pro bono basis in their own time  
at the different language Forums at
https://forum.openoffice.org

 
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Re: English dictionary

2019-11-02 Thread Rory O'Farrell
On Sat, 2 Nov 2019 23:03:12 +0100
Matthias Seidel  wrote:

> Hi all,
> 
> Marco did update the English dictionary, but I think the page got
> unpublished again:
> 
> https://extensions.openoffice.org/en/project/english-dictionaries-apache-openoffice
> 
> @Andrea: Can you fix it? ;-)
> 
> Regards,
> 
>    Matthias
> 
> 

Yes, I get an Access denied message "You do not have permission to access this 
page"

Rory


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Re: New computer

2019-10-26 Thread Rory O'Farrell
On Fri, 25 Oct 2019 21:24:01 -0700
Patricia Shanahan  wrote:

> Any opinions on which I should do?

I think concentration should be on 4.2.0, working towards a Windows 64 version; 

Feedback from posters on the en-Forum indicates an increasing ignorance of 
computer skills on the part of many new users and their inability to cope with 
the difference between 32 and 64 bit versions.  It would give AOO a better 
public profile if a new release of A00 provided a 64 bit Windows version.  

The Ubuntu linux distro seriously considered abandoning 32 bit support 
entirely; they changed their mind recently, but the writing is on the wall for 
32 bit computers.  AOO should move with the times and fill their Windows 64 bit 
gap.

I use a 64 bit version on Xubuntu 18.04.3 so this does not impact on me. 

Rory


> 
> 
> On 10/25/2019 1:27 PM, Matthias Seidel wrote:
> > Hi Patricia,
> > 
> > If you want to build 4.1.x have a look at:
> > https://home.apache.org/~mseidel/AOO-builds/AOO-418-Test/ReadMe.txt
> > 
> > For 4.2.x (and trunk) see:
> > https://home.apache.org/~mseidel/AOO-builds/AOO-420-Test/ReadMe.txt
> > 
> > This is how I do my test builds.
> > 
> > Regards,
> > 
> >     Matthias
> > 
> > Am 24.10.19 um 22:09 schrieb Patricia Shanahan:
> >> Are the Windows 10 instructions up-to-date?
> >>
> >> I have just got a shiny new Windows 10 Pro computer, and am planning a
> >> clean start on AOO building. It will take a day or so for me to
> >> install and set up basic stuff, and then I'll need to install whatever
> >> I need for AOO building.
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Re: 4.2.0-dev next?

2019-10-24 Thread Rory O'Farrell
On Thu, 24 Oct 2019 19:40:49 +0100 (WEST)
Pedro Lino  wrote:

> Hi Rory
>  
> > I can't answer that, but the 4.2.0 version I used until changing to 4.1.7, 
> > for better compatibility with Forum users, was the May 22 version. I used 
> > the DEB 64, running on Xubuntu 18.04.02 and later .03.
> > 
> 
> I tested that build as well under Ubuntu 18.04.3 x64 but I get too many 
> errors (compared to 4.1.7) so I'm hoping this was a bad one and that a more 
> recent build will be better :)
> 
> Thanks!
> Pedro

Writer worked correctly for me, generating new files and editing exiting files.

My Calc use is merely a simple 12 sheet file, with 31 lines on each sheet, and 
simple arithmetic, so that is not a valid test.

I was able to make and edit a 100 slide Impress file, complete with Notes, and 
later minimise it.  Insertion of video clips did not work, but I didn't need 
them.
  
I had some little instability with Impress, but tracked it down to 
LanguageTool, which I would turn off for Impress editing.

As soon as Jim has new builds I'll try out the DEB 64.

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Re: 4.2.0-dev next?

2019-10-24 Thread Rory O'Farrell
On Thu, 24 Oct 2019 18:19:48 +0100 (WEST)
Pedro Lino  wrote:

> 
> > Now that we have AOO-4.1.7 out, what do people think about trying for 
> > another 4.2.0 "preview" release? Maybe a developers release or even a 
> > beta...?
> 
> I believe it is about time for a Beta 1 build
> 
> One question: are there any 4.2.0 Linux binaries available more recent than 
> those from the Buildbot (22nd May)?
> 
> Thanks,
> Pedro

I can't answer that, but the 4.2.0 version I used until changing to 4.1.7, for 
better compatibility with Forum users, was the May 22 version. I used the DEB 
64, running on Xubuntu 18.04.02 and later .03.


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Re: 4.2.0-dev next?

2019-10-24 Thread Rory O'Farrell
On Thu, 24 Oct 2019 07:44:11 -0400
Jim Jagielski  wrote:

> Now that we have AOO-4.1.7 out, what do people think about trying for another 
> 4.2.0 "preview" release? Maybe a developers release or even a beta...?

I used an earlier A00-4.2.0 for daily use and it worked OK for my 
writing/editing.

I would encourage release of an A00-4.2.0 if only for psychological reasons - 
the numbering of LibreOffice versions is outpacing that of AOO, and progression 
to 4.2.0 would indicate continuing activity on the part of AOO. 

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