Re: future of OpenOffice

[Tsutomu Uchino]

See this mail: http://legal-discuss.markmail.org/thread/mleqsm636zf5fqia

2017-01-12 6:18 GMT+09:00 Dave :

> On 11.01.2017 09:44, Patricia Shanahan wrote:
> > On 1/10/2017 11:29 PM, Nagy �kos wrote:
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> it is impossible, because the LO license is LGPL+MPL, that can't be
> >> merged in OpenOffice.
> >
> > That choice of license was very unfortunate, and a regrettable barrier
> > to cooperation between the projects. When LO split off they could have
> > kept the Apache license and the potential for future cooperation.
>
> The first release of OOo v3 was under LGPLv3 per Louis Suarez-Potts:
> https://lwn.net/Articles/272202/
>
> In September 2010 LO forked from OOo and released LO 3.3 in January 2011
> under the same license.
>
> Around 6 months later in June 2011 Oracle donated the LGPLv3 code to the
> ASF and AOO 3.4 was released in May 2012 under ALv2.
>
> In spite of a seemingly contradictory statement on the license page of
> the LO website, the above dates clearly show that LO code was forked
> from the original OOo code, not from the AOO code.
>
> Please let's not try to rewrite history.
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Re: One Addons.xcu with toolbars for AOO and LO possible?

[Tsutomu Uchino]

Hi,

I have added l:LibreOffice-minimal-version to my extension's
deescription.xml file.
But I got error while installing the package to Apache OpenOffice 4.
On the current version, you can not put it into an extension that targets
AOO.

Regards

2015-09-16 1:51 GMT+09:00 Oliver Brinzing :

> Hi Mathias,
>
> I can't find any explanation for a difference for the 
>>> node in description.xml. It seems AOO and LO tests always against the
>>> same entries.
>>>
>>
> please see
> https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/Extension_Development for
> lo:
>
> http://openoffice.org/extensions/description/2006";
>  xmlns:l="http://libreoffice.org/extensions/description/2011";
>  xmlns:d="
> http://openoffice.org/extensions/description/2006";
>  xmlns:xlink="http://www.w3.org/1999/xlink";>
> 
>   
> 
> aoo is a bit different:
>
> http://openoffice.org/extensions/description/2006";
>  xmlns:l="http://openoffice.org/extensions/description/2006";
>  xmlns:d="
> http://openoffice.org/extensions/description/2006";
>  xmlns:xlink="http://www.w3.org/1999/xlink";>
> 
>   
> 
>
>
> Regards
> Oliver
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Re: reload of registered template directories (by extension)

[Tsutomu Uchino]

Hi,

Try the followings to update:
http://www.openoffice.org/api/docs/common/ref/com/sun/star/frame/DocumentTemplates.html
http://www.openoffice.org/api/docs/common/ref/com/sun/star/frame/XDocumentTemplates.html#update

Regards

2015-09-15 3:41 GMT+09:00 Mathias Röllig :

> I created an extension with templates in it. The template path is
>> registered via Paths.xcu.
>> In general it works. But the problem is, that the templates must be
>> reloaded before.
>> For me this is a bug. AOO should update the template structure itself if
>> an extension provides a template path.
>>
>
> Sorry, must correct myself. All is working. The problem was, that the
> quickstarter was active, but under Ubuntu (64) 14.04 there is no
> quickstarter visible. So AOO wasn't complete closed and the configuration
> was not updated.
>
>
>
> As a workaround: how can I update the templates via API?
>> In other words: what is the API equivalent for
>> File → Templates → Organise…: (Commands) Update
>> ?
>>
>
> But if anybody knows the answer of the question above, I'm interested in.
>
>
>
> Thanks
> Mathias
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Re: OptionsPage for my extension

[Tsutomu Uchino]

Hello,

Id of the Leave of your OptionDialog setting should be the same with your
extension identifier.

Regards


2013/9/6 Rajath Shashidhara 

> Hello,
>
> I'm not getting the "Options" Button for my extension on the extension
> manager.
> WHere am I going wrong?
>
>
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> M.Sc(Hons.) Physics, B.E.(Hons.) Computer Science
> Birla Institute of Technology and Science - Pilani,
> Pilani
>

Re: [announce] genLang extract is ready.

[Tsutomu Uchino]

Hi,

I have the same problem on ja locale.
I downloaded PO files from the Pootle getLang project. These files contains
correct strings in UTF-8.
But their header contains the following line:
> "Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1\n"
Is it used to detect the file encoding? Another project for 4.x contains
the following:
> "Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8\n"

Regards
- Tsutomu

Re: BasicAddonBuilder - problem (addon.xcu?) in AOO 4.0

[Tsutomu Uchino]

Hi,
2013/8/9, Oliver Brinzing :
> Hi Jörg,
>
>> it is possible to use a 'double' addon.xcu? The following works for me,
>> *but is it allowed*?
>
> this change was intended, see
>
> Allow setting toolbar name in Addons.xcu
> https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=121577
>
> i don't think a double addon.xcu will work
I wrote a bit about that here[1]
[1] 
http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Talk:Extensions/Extensions_and_Apache_OpenOffice_4.0

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>
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>
> Oliver
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Re: Missing dictionaries on Extension website [Was Re: New version of Spanish dictionaries]

[Tsutomu Uchino]

Hi,

2013/7/18, Ricardo Berlasso :
> 2013/7/17 Regina Henschel 
>
>> Hi Ricardo,
>>
>> Ricardo Berlasso schrieb:
>>
>>> There is a rather serious problem: Almost all the Spanish dictionaries
>>> are
>>>
>>> missing from the extension repository. The links on this list
>>>
>>> http://forum.openoffice.org/**es/forum/viewtopic.php?p=5709#**p5709
>>>
>>> that used to be a reference for the localized dictionaries gives "page
>>> not
>>> found".
>>>
>>> On the extensions site there are only three custom dictionaries listed
>>> under "Spanish" and other two under "Español", all of them really old
>>> and
>>> unmaintained. What happened with the 21 localized dictionaries? It seems
>>> that all the extensions from "Recursos lingüísticos abiertos"
>>> disappeared!
>>>
>>
>> http://extensions.openoffice.**org/en/search
>> And then in the list "Filter by tags" the item "diccionario".
>>
>> Is it that, what you are looking for?
>>
>> Kind regards
>> Regina
>>
>
> No. I know that path, but all Spanish dictionaries that used to be on the
> extensions repository just disappeared. Just click on the links here:
>
> http://forum.openoffice.org/es/forum/viewtopic.php?p=5709#p5709
>
> Up to a couple of months ago when I last checked, all of them worked. All
> those 21 dictionaries are now missing, including the dictionary we are
> shipping by default on our releases
>
> http://extensions.openoffice.org/project/es_ES-dicts
>
> gives "Page not found".
It seems due to the update of the site. After the update, "Extension
name" for all extensions
are empty, and default value is title of the extension in lower case
with joined by "-".
I tried to specify Extension name to one of my extension, but it would not work
as short name for the extension page.

Regards
- Tsutomu

>
> Regards
> Ricardo
>
>
>
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Re: New Extensions website goes live!

[Tsutomu Uchino]

Hi,

Thank you for gread features.

When I added new release as "Host on this site", it got wrong version
number of the package [1].
The package contains  but 4.0 is shown.
It seems minimal-version was used for the package version.

[1] 
http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/en/projectrelease/mersenne-twister-random-number-generator-add-40

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- Tsutomu

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Re: Bug 122632 - Untranslated string on Calc menu not found on Pootle

[Tsutomu Uchino]

Hi,

2013/6/29, RGB ES :
> I just reported this issue against 4.0 that was found by a forum user
>
> https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=122632
>
> On 3.4.1 this problem is not present so it seems as a small regression. I
> wonder if other localizations see the same. Can someone else test on
> another language?
I can reproduce it on en-US and ja locale. For non DB range, it should be
globstr.src#RID_GLOBSTR.STR_DB_NONAME.string.text .

Wonder why ScDBCollection::GetDBAtArea returns valid instance for non
db range in tpsort.cxx.

Regards
- Tsutomu
>
> Thanks
>
> Regards
> Ricardo
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Re: [4.0]Wrong cursor positioning when a comment is present on the document

[Tsutomu Uchino]

Hi,

2013/6/22, RGB ES :
> 2013/6/21 RGB ES 
>
>> I did not reported this yet.
>>
>> Download this document
>>
>> http://people.apache.org/~rgb-es/Test-Bug.odt
>>
>> On pages 3 and 7 you'll see some text highlighted. There is also a
>> comment
>> inserted on page 3. If you click on the yellow text on page 3, the cursor
>> jumps to the heading instead of remaining where you clicked. If you click
>> on the yellow text on page 7 the situation is even worse: the cursor
>> jumps
>> to the footer of previous page.
>>
>> Now, go to page 3 and delete the note: clicking on any yellow text the
>> cursor behave as intended.
>>
>> Also, if with the note in place you delete text under the first heading
>> so
>> the "chapter" gets reduced to two pages, the jump on page 7 does not
>> occur.
>>
>> The document is new, all styles defined today and created on
>>
>> AOO400m2(Build:9701)  -  Rev. 1493305
>> 2013-06-15 03:58:54 (Sat, 15 Jun 2013) - Linux x86_64
>>
>> Can someone confirm this this *really* strange issue?
>>
>
> OK, this is getting even more strange: if I hide the sidebar, the problem
> does not happen...
I can confirm the strange behaviour on side by side mode (middle icon) when
the width of the document window is not wide enough.
When the horizontal scrollbar of the document does not have scrollable
remaining,
the problem not happen on:
AOO341m1(Build:9593) - Rev. 1372282
2012-08-13 09:43:38(Mon, 13 Aug 2012) - Linux i686

Regards
- Tsutomu
>
>
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Regards
>> Ricardo
>>
>

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Re: Graphical glitches on Draw 4.0

[Tsutomu Uchino]

2013/6/14, RGB ES :
> Just draw a thick line and see if you can reproduce this
>
> http://people.apache.org/~rgb-es/Draw-341vs400.png
>
> On the left, 3.4.1, on the right, 4.0. As you can see, handlers are
> misplaced on 4.0. There is also a lot of "noise" when you move an object
> around con 4.0
>
> http://people.apache.org/~rgb-es/Draw-400noise.png
>
> This problem is absent on 3.4.1.
>
> I'm testing the 64 bits Linux build. From the Help → About
>
> AOO400m2(Build:9701)  -  Rev. 1491860
> 2013-06-11 15:16:25 (Tue, 11 Jun 2013) - Linux x86_64
>
> Refreshing the screen with Ctrl-Shift-R fix the second problem, but not the
> first one. I cannot find any related issue in bugzilla.
>
Here you are:
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=122456

Regards
- Tsutomu
> One user on ES forums reported that boxes like font name/size are not
> repainting for him, but I cannot reproduce that.
>
> Regards
> Ricardo
>

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Re: [RELEASE]: translation reminder

[Tsutomu Uchino]

Hi,

2013/6/10, Jürgen Schmidt :
> Hi,
>
> I just want to remind you about the upcoming release and the translation
> update that should be done until June 18th (latest).
>
> We have several languages that are close to be finished at least for the
> UI translation.
>

> Japanese -> 5122 words needs review/translation
I attached translated po files to issue 122474[1].
Could someone reflect them to the pootle? Thanks.

[1] https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=122474

Regards
- Tsutomu
>
>
> some more work necessary for
> Thai -> 22965 words needs review/translation
> and even more for
> Persian -> 55680
>
> But the review of the moved stuff can be done quite quickly if there was
> already a translation in place.
>
> I would be happy to release as many languages as possible.
>
> If you know other people who might be interested to help or if you have
> connections to schools, universities where native languages are key or
> where native language support is important, feel free to invite them to
> participate. The more people help and review the translations the better
> the result will be.
>
> Juergen
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Re: Does Help Agent still exist?

[Tsutomu Uchino]

Hi Regina,
2013/6/6, Regina Henschel :
> Hi Tsutomu,
>
> I have tested your patch from
> https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=122441 (not all the
> situations), but I have applied it and the help agent comes up now.
>
Thank you for taking care of the patch.

Regards
- Tsutomu
> Kind regards
> Regina
>
> Tsutomu Uchino schrieb:
>> Hi,
>>
>> it is still there but
>> /org.openoffice.Office.SFX/Help/HelpAgentStarterList [1] should be
>> updated.
>> It seems they are the list of slot ids. But recent
>> SfxHelp::OpenHelpAgent method takes
>> command in string that is not numerical id anymore.
>> Once I replace the list in the configuration with
>> EDITENG_HID_AUTOCORR_HELP_SENT,
>> the agent popping up at auto correction on Writer document.
>>
>> [1]
>> http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/openoffice/trunk/main/officecfg/registry/data/org/openoffice/Office/SFX.xcu?view=markup
>>
>> Regards
>> - Tsutomu
>>
>> 2013/6/3, Regina Henschel :
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> I have activated the Help Agent in Tools > Options, but I cannot trigger
>>> it. In ancient versions a auto correct replacement in Writer or using
>>> standard filter in Calc triggered the Help Agent.
>>>
>>> Should the Help Agent still work? Or was it removed, but some parts were
>>> forgotten to remove?
>>>
>>> Kind regards
>>> Regina
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Re: Does Help Agent still exist?

[Tsutomu Uchino]

Hi,

it is still there but
/org.openoffice.Office.SFX/Help/HelpAgentStarterList [1] should be
updated.
It seems they are the list of slot ids. But recent
SfxHelp::OpenHelpAgent method takes
command in string that is not numerical id anymore.
Once I replace the list in the configuration with
EDITENG_HID_AUTOCORR_HELP_SENT,
the agent popping up at auto correction on Writer document.

[1] 
http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/openoffice/trunk/main/officecfg/registry/data/org/openoffice/Office/SFX.xcu?view=markup

Regards
- Tsutomu

2013/6/3, Regina Henschel :
> Hi all,
>
> I have activated the Help Agent in Tools > Options, but I cannot trigger
> it. In ancient versions a auto correct replacement in Writer or using
> standard filter in Calc triggered the Help Agent.
>
> Should the Help Agent still work? Or was it removed, but some parts were
> forgotten to remove?
>
> Kind regards
> Regina
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Re: mac build bot (and also for the rest of us).

[Tsutomu Uchino]

Hi,

2013/5/22, Andre Fischer :
> On 22.05.2013 14:01, janI wrote:
>> Hi.
>>
>> I have been strugling to get VMs up and running on my local server, so I
>> can test my changes throughout our supported platforms.
>>
>> I found this article:
>> http://lifehacker.com/5583650/run-mac-os-x-in-virtualbox-on-windows
>>
>> And have talked to a couple of virtualbox people, it actually worksso
>> this is a recipe to get macOS without having a mac.
>
> This may be technically possible, but is it legal?  I thought that the
> MacOSX license only allows to run MacOSX on a virtual machine that runs
> itself on MacOSX.  Does anybody know more?
License agreements for Apple softwares can be found in:
http://www.apple.com/legal/sla/
For MacOSX 10.8.2: http://images.apple.com/legal/sla/docs/OSX1082.pdf
The section 2 (starting at the end of first page) describes about the
valid use of
the copy of the OS. It always says on "Apple-branded computer".
So we need it, it seems.
>
> -Andre
>
>>
>> Now I need to find a macOS image, but that is different story.
>>
>> rgds
>> jan I.
>>
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Re: Project idea: Calc for Statistics

[Tsutomu Uchino]

Hi,

I found the following paper several weeks ago in [1] (written in Japanese) that
descrives about the paper that Pedro mentioned.

"On the accuracy of statistical procedures in Microsoft Excel 2010",
Submitted but rejected, January 2012
http://homepages.ulb.ac.be/~gmelard/Recherche.htm

And I have seen some people want to use tool such as data analysys
tools provided on Excel.

There is Apache Commons Math library provides statistical tools
written in Java.
It is good stuff to make analysis tool as an extension also, if someone wanted.
I have started to make such thing but it's discontinued.

[1] http://oku.edu.mie-u.ac.jp/~okumura/blog/node/2585

Tsutomu

2012/12/7, Pedro Giffuni :
> Hi guys;
>
> FWIW, while I was playing with the new random number generator I went
> around looking for some references and I found this paper from the Journal
> of Statistical Software (2010) titled "On the Numerical Accuracy of
> Spreadsheets":
>
> http://www.jstatsoft.org/v34/i04/paper
>
>
> It basically shows that Calc, among other Spreadsheet programs, is not
> really well suited for statistical analysis.
>
> Something rather amazing is that the major statistic suites have been moving
> towards a more "spreadsheet-like" environment. I am personally a fan of
> Minitab as it brings many functions that I needed for Quality control in a
> previous job. The price of the software package sky-rocketed in few years
> though :(.
>
> One approach could be improving our local functions to match more
> demanding specifications: some of that will necessarily have to be done.
> Another approach could be facilitating interactions with software like R,
>
> and I am aware that approach has many followers. A third approach, which
> I would like to suggest as a future project, would be developing a scaddin
> focused on statistics and making full use of the functions from boost that
> we already have available as a module but we are not using to their full
> extent.
>
> I know we are all busy with other stuff to improve for 4.0 Release, just
> thought I'd leave the idea for the future.
>
> cheers,
>
> Pedro.

Re: [QA] Python version late for MacOS

[Tsutomu Uchino]

Hi,

2012/12/2, Pedro Giffuni :
> FWIW;
>
> After updating Python to 2.7.3 I started working on updating
> pyuno so that it works with Python3 and Python2. I didn't
> finish and I don't really have much time for that lately but
> I will be glad to point someone else in the right direction.
>
I modified pyuno to support Python 3.3 with new functions added on 3.3.
But it does not support Python from 3.0 to 3.2.
If someone interested in it:
https://github.com/hanya/pyuno3
I will make a patch and attach to issue if required.

-Tsutomu

> Adding support for Python3 in pyuno is important and people
> that make their own packages will need it but in general I would
> advice against doing the update to 3.x by default now. Let others
> deal with the migration issues first ;).
>
> Pedro.
>
>
> - Original Message -
>>
>> On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 8:33 AM, Rob Weir wrote:
>>
>>>  On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 7:11 AM, Andre Fischer
>> wrote:
>>>  > On 30.11.2012 12:02, FR web forum wrote:
>>>  >>>
>>>  >>> In trunk we currently have version 2.7.3.  Would that be OK?
>>>  >>
>>>  >> Python 2.7.3 is in end of life.
>>>  >>
>>>  >> It will be better to directly include Python 3.3.
>>>  >> Compatibility for extensions will be more easy with future LibO 4
>> that
>>>  use
>>>  >> already this version.
>>>  >
>>>  >
>>>  > I thought that 2.x is incompatible from 3.x. Would existing extensions
>>>  still
>>>  > work with 3.3?
>>>  >
>>>
>>>  Moving to 3.x would be an incompatible change.   But 2.7.x is on
>>>  "extended maintenance" but no new features are being done there.
>>>
>>>  So the future is certainly with 3.x.  But we would need to communicate
>>>  very carefully with extension authors if we want to make this move.
>>>  We want to avoid this:
>>>
>>>  1) AOO 4.0 comes out with broken extensions and unhappy users
>>>
>>>  2) Extension authors have insufficient time to test with Python 3.x
>>>  support, leading to 1
>>>
>>>  3) Extension authors are not aware that we are switching to Python
>>>  3.x, leading to 1
>>>
>>>  So if we want to do this we would need to notify extension authors
>>>  ASAP and give them a way to test their extensions with Python 3.x.  So
>>>  maybe integrate the new Python early and have a developer preview
>>>  version that they can test with?
>>>
>>>
>>>  -Rob
>>>
>>>  > -Andre
>>>  >
>>>
>